#Crowleys fall

[oprahsfriendgayle]

[hyperfixating-rn-brb]

assorted things from go1 and 2 and internet that I think should become relevant again in go3 and random musings:

the further prophecies than anathema and newt burned (bro what did agnes know)

1941 p3 (i'm a firm believer that they almost kissed and azi panicked.)

also 1941 p3 but it's the nazi zombies

uriel being hesitant to destroy maggie and nina (I saw a meta abt their loyalties shifting after gabriel left, couldn't find it again but interesting)

michael trying to grab as much power as she can

michael having some sort of back channel into hell (who was it she called?)

where adam and the them went (are they just hanging out? he's gotta be relevant but he's not the antichrist anymore? but theres a chance of *some* power still- bush burning in 1.06)

4 horsemen.

where tf is god

"some of the lesser demons have been put on half rations" excuse me sir what the fuck is being rationed? (miracles? who killed god istg)

why is hell so understaffed they apparently had 10 million for armageddon't

"what... Heaven and hell... against... humanity?" (oop let's go)

give me fucking nightingales pls and ty

South downs cottage pls (starts and ends in a garden. ending garden st james from s1 or south downs garden in s3? is south downs even a thing or were we just supremely gaslit?)

a nightingale sang in Berkeley Square- they used the 1st verse in s1, 2nd in s2, and the third (most romantic imo) should (pls) be used in s3?

crowleys inconsistent fall narrative

who crowley remembers from heaven

does azi remember heaven before the fall?

what if anathema got pregnant when she did it with newt in s1

does crowley ever catch on to azi painting everything *that* shade of yellow?

the letter azi wrote in the lockdown video

will jesus recognize crowley from when crow showed him the wonders of the world?

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[crowley396]

sChapters: 12/? Fandom: Good Omens (TV), Good Omens - Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett Rating: General Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

He was the most beautiful angel in Heaven. The closest to God. The one with whom God was confronted daily. He could have been called his right-hand man. Yet, Raziel now found him strangely disturbing.

Guess who are we talking about? 😏 Chapter 12 is here for you!

Love this pic by @corkskew​

[ineffablehusbandscentral]

Crowley sauntering vaguely downwards

[baneonono]

aziracrowifying from eden by hozier: the master post

I know that everyone azirocrows from eden because duh but stay with me okay. because I think there's a cool interpretation that isn't so much about crowley longing for aza(there's still plenty of longing) it's more about crowley seeing himself and his situation in aza/aza's situation and reflecting on his fall/situation and how that is reflected in aza's. basically cool parrallels and crowley hating the system and loving aziraphale. let's go lyric by lyric shall we

Babe There's something tragic about you Something so magic about you Don't you agree?

pretty basic stuff here. I think crowley see aziraphale as uniquely moral, just the epitome of everything right and good. now crowley has magic for all intents and purposes, but aziraphale he is true magic, the strength of aza's morals is something he can barely comprehend to the extent that it becomes magical. especially in the context of heaven, a heaven that doesn't share aziraphale's moral fiber. and even in the context of that aziraphale manages to be so good. he thinks it's so magical. and he equally thinks it's tragic because aziraphale should be the standard for good, aziraphale is the only real good thing and he has to exist in heaven. and the don't you agree, in the plot of the song, I like to imagine this being the early stages of crowley appealing to aziraphale to be friends. he asks aza if they can be agreed on his assessment of aziraphale's relationship with heaven.

Babe There's something lonesome about you Something so wholesome about you Get closer to me

as time goes marching forward and aziraphale finds that he does agree with crowley, crowley gets to discover so much more about aza. he discovers how lonely aziraphale is in heaven and he discovers how obscenely adorable aza is(just crowley falling in love with aziraphale and his magic and his books and his food and and and). Crowley finds himself urging aziraphale closer. for a few moments even he can't tell what his intentions are. does he just want aza to be less lonely? does he want to tempt aza toward evil? does he want to purify himself? does he just want to be less lonely? does he just want to be closer to aziraphale? perhaps it's a little bit of all of them. regardless his surprise when aziraphale does get closer to him and he gets to discover even more about him is pleasant but still strong

No tired sighs, no rolling eyes, no irony No 'who cares', no vacant stares, no time for me

crowley has seen so many tired sighs, rolling eyes, and examples of irony from heaven. but the closer he gets to aza, the more he discovers that aziraphale distinctly lacks them. those gabriel qualities that are holy in heaven, aza entirely rejects. but that doesn't mean he has qualities of the other side. the 'who care' nature of demons, the vacant stares he gets constantly down below, the time that beelzebub will make for crowley's nonsense. all of these things, aziraphale doesn't have. he cares so much, he only ever looks at things intently, and crowley has to be on his best behaviour around aziraphale or he gets really disappointed. crowley is falling so far in love with this angel. because aziraphale isn't a side, aziraphale defies sides and is so good. crowley can't stay away.

Honey, you're familiar like my mirror years ago Idealism sits in prison, chivalry fell on its sword Innocence died screaming, honey, ask me I should know I slithered here from Eden just to sit outside your door

what crowley finds truly remarkable about this angel that the more he knows, the more his life becomes better. because the angel is so familiar, a version of himself that he had once wanted to be, a view in the mirror thousands of years prior. crowley isn't that person anymore. his idealism is now imprisoned in this demon body where it can't be expressed. the chivalry he wants to act upon for aziraphale, it's fallen, fallen on it's own sword. his innocence died screaming all the way down to the basement. but this angel that can express the idealism, that can be chivalrous, that maintains innocence in the face of everything, he feels familiar to crowley because at some point thats where crowley thought he would be, that's the reflection he had hoped to see in the mirror. so now he slithers all the way from Eden, just to sit outside aza's door and pretend that the window he peeks through is a mirror.

Babe There's something wretched about this Something so precious about this Where to begin?

this relationship their forging, that they each fight for everyday in tiny ways, they see it in different ways. aziraphale views it as something so precious, something that he would rearrange the cosmos for. and while crowley also loves and values the relationship, he would firstly describe it as wretched. he's a demon after all, he's down with the wretched. aziraphale doesn't see it that way and trying to explain it to him is always a struggle. when crowley attempts he doesn't even know where to even begin (((author brainrot interjection: IT BEGINS AS IT WILL END IN A GARDEN anyways back to out regularly scheduled programming)))

Babe There's something broken about this But I might be hoping about this Oh, what a sin

he begins before his fall, back when he still had idealism and chivalry and innocence. he knew even then that something was broken with this system, he had questions about it, he had suggestions. and more importantly, he had hope. he had hope that people would answer his questions, they would listen to his suggestions, they would understand where he was coming from, they would want the same thing that he did for the system, to make it better. but to suggest or ask a question that said the system is broken, that was a sin.

To the strand a picnic plan for you and me A rope in hand for your other man to hang from a tree

for the angels who didn't have questions, god would have picnics and all good things. but for god's other men like crowley who had questions, god handed them the rope to hang themselves and make their way downstairs.

Honey, you're familiar like my mirror years ago Idealism sits in prison, chivalry fell on its sword Innocence died screaming, honey, ask me I should know I slithered here from Eden just to sit outside your door

so yes, aziraphale is familiar, aziraphale feels like that angel that crowley almost was. and as he sees this idealism imprisoned in heaven, as he watches the other angels pushing aziraphale onto his own sword like a vampire on a stake, and bears witness to this pure good being ostracized by the people who are supposed to be the good ones, he kills the last bits of innocence in his soul, he loses any hope he had for the system, he burns it all to the ground, he leaves eden, he just slithers to aziraphale's door and sits there

Honey, you're familiar like my mirror years ago Idealism sits in prison, chivalry fell on its sword Innocence died screaming, honey, ask me I should know I slithered here from Eden just to hide outside your door

bonus aziraphale pov: as stupid as it sounds, aziraphale also sees himself in crowley. crowley is idealistic and chivalrous and though crowley never sees it, aziraphale loves the innocent parts of crowley. the way crowley takes care of his plants, the way his car is so important to him, the way his appearance takes up a significant part of his brain. aziraphale has lost care for the system as time went on. the innocent urge to make sure people are seeing what they wish to see, he left that behind a while ago. now all he has is the selfish want to do good. because aziraphale doesn't do good for other people, he does it singularly for himself because he makes him feel good. when he sees crowley, who cares so deeply about right and wrong as ideals, he sees a part of him in the past. the part of him that had tried so hard to be the angel god wanted him to be. so aziraphale sees crowley's idealism imprisoned in this demonic form because the system didn't let him express it. he sees a system that pushed crowley onto his own sword. he looks at crowley and he still sees that childlike innocence in his faith in objective good that's separate from god. that innocence that aza once had died screaming a long time ago. when aziraphale goes to see crowley, he feels a little bit like he's slithering, that he's really the snake coming from eden to tempt crowley so he hides outside crowley's door.

[trintrintastic]

Girlbossed too close to the sun 😔

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[apologydanceenthusiast]

Idk if i am having a brain moment or if this was common sense, but considering the way God hasn't really spoken to anyone in quite a while and probably wasn't all that talkative even before the Fall and the beginning ofthe earth and humanity, made me realise that when Crowley implied that he never actually got to ask God his questions in the Job minisode, it may very well be that he actually neved got to God and was likely stopped by the Metatron before he could reach her

Or, similarly to Aziraphale in s1 when he tried contacting God w the summoning circle inside the bookshop, the metatron showed up instead bc God wasnt really talking to anyone

That being said, it makes me wonder if God was even the one making the call of letting so many of the angels fall (although, admittedly, that might be a wide reach)

[olivesdontbite]

I've been doing a lot of analysis on Good Omens recently so here's some things I've gathered from the scene in S1E5 where Crowley is talking to himself drunk in a bar after he believes Aziraphale had been killed. (This might not be new for everyone, this is also just my opinion and thoughts, I'm just having fun so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt lol) Before going into the quote and what each part means, I would like to specify that Neil Gaiman stated that Crowley isn't the most reliable narrator of his own fall. From this I am assuming that although most of what Crowley is saying aren't direct lies, but that he likely sugarcoated and holds back some information. Neil also stated that Crowley (before the fall) wasn't as innocent / good as he paints himself to be, and isn't nearly as evil as Heaven would like to imagine.

“I never asked to be a demon. I was just minding my own business one day and then, oh look here, it's Lucifer and the guys. Food hadn’t been that good lately, didn’t have anything on for the rest of the afternoon. Next thing I’m doing a million lightyear freestyle dive into a pool of boiling sulfur.”  

There are a few things that we can take out from this quote. 

“I never asked to be a demon.” This is the second time Crowley specified his intent with falling. He never wanted this, he never meant for this to happen. Although he doesn’t directly say that he feels it's undeserved, it is clear that he in some ways regrets his actions and that the intent of falling wasn’t there. 

“I was just minding my own business one day.” Here's what I believe is very clear sugarcoating on his behalf. He paints himself as innocent and unknowing of what would happen. Although it may be true to some extent that he didn’t realise it would lead to him and others falling. It would be wrong to assume that it wasn't also his own doing which caused him to join Lucifer and to join the rebellion and further, participate in the great war. 

“Look here, it’s Lucifer and the guys.” These are the people he blames for falling, the “wrong people” he hung around with so to say. (There was a theory at some point that Crowley was Lucifer and he was talking about himself in the third person but this has been debunked by Neil Gaiman who said that Lucifer turned into Satan.) In this way he is also somewhat sugarcoating (imo) because he makes it seem as if others dragged him into the rebellion and the war, while yes there may have been peer pressure and outside influences, Crowley is someone who makes his own decisions and doesn't just go along with something he doesn't agree with.

“Food hadn’t been that good lately, didn’t have anything on for the rest of the afternoon.” Another instance of Crowley sugarcoating what had happened, I personally find it hard to believe that just one random afternoon a large group of angels just on a whim decided to rebel and start a war, as well as that I find it hard to believe Crowley joined the rebellion and war because “the food hadn’t been that good lately”. There was definitely a more serious and substantial reason for the rebellion and why Crowley joined. His language here also plays it off as no big deal, while clearly, it is a big deal, he just has a hard time confronting that reality.

“Next thing I’m doing a million light year freestyle dive into a pool of boiling sulfur.” This line is very different from the others, as his tone also shifts slightly, you can clearly feel the hurt and pain of this memory. From this we also learn that when an Angel turns into a Demon, they fall into boiling sulfur. But clearly to Crowley, this is a very painful and traumatic memory, I just wanna give him a hug.

[flash-bastardd]

Aziraphale fell first

Crowley fell harder

[theseus8349]

Crowley would definitely struggle against the fall the fees few millenia and just give up at some point (I think it was said their fall was around a million light years long)

How is the only thing I actually put effort into Crowleys hand🧍‍♂️

[unpaintedcrownails]

SO WHAT IF CROWLEY SAID IN S1 THAT OR ACTUALLY THE BOOK HE SAID THAT HE DIDNT LIKE TURNING INTO A SNAKE BC HE WAS AFRAID HE'D FORGET HOW TO TURN BACK WHAT IF WHEN HE FELL HE WAS TURNED ONTO A SNAKE AND FREAKING OUT HE DIDNT KNOW HOW TO TURN INTO A HUMAN LOOKING CORPORATION

[matxhstixkers]

MATH DOODLE BE OPON YE

crowleys fall :)

[hyperfixating-rn-brb]

I think if it go3 we don't see either crowley or aziraphale fall... mmm.

Im not sure which would hurt more and I'm not sure if I actually want that pain.

but ohh it'd hurt so good

[dovessoiscanon]

Are you there God? It’s me, Crowley…

the moment Crowley falls and his eyes change :)

[killrisma]

The Fall wasn’t gradual, it didn’t start out as a light tickle and turn into a burn; It was immediate, it was complete and total from the very moment that it happened. That didn’t mean that it was over in an instant, however.

No, Falling wasn’t quick. It wasn’t slow either. There were no words to describe the way that time distorted as one Fell, just as there were no words to describe the agony one feels as their very being is torn to shreds and pasted back together with Hellfire as the glue.

Falling was, well,

Ineffable.

[baneonono]

hi I’m thinking about good omens and from Eden. (yes I know Hozier and good omens cross over. soooo original. shut up let me have this) specifically, I'm thinking about these lines:

There's something broken about this

But I might be hoping about this

Oh, what a sin

To the strand a picnic plan for you and me

A rope in hand for your other man to hang from a tree

I know that usual ineffable analysis of these lines makes it about their relationship. Crowley and Aza have a broken relationship but Crowley is hopeful about it. and I have come to you today to say No. fun fact it’s actually about the system. (I'm kidding I don't care how you good omensify a hozier song, but hear me out)

so we all know that crowley isn't exactly thrilled with god's system. in fact he may have even had a few questions for god about the system. perhaps he even thought it was a little broken. but he never lost hope for the system. he had hope that it could be made better, he had hope that those in charge of it would make it better. but that was deemed a sin because the system can't be broken. for the angels who had faith, god planned a picnic and god's other men were given a rope to hang.

anyway so stay tuned for a full song version of this because I've been thinking about this nonstop for like two days(you wish I was kidding)