#Clone Conspiracy

[babyscilence]

If Kal Skirata knew about the inhibitor chips, he and Vau would have single handedly burned down Kamino and the Empire and adopt every clone after

[alphacomicsvol2]

Clone Conspiracy #2 Cover Art by Gabriele Dell'Otto

[samasmith23]

One element that I always loved about Dan Slott's run on Superior Spider-Man was just how accepting and open-minded Otto Octavius was towards his love-interest Anna Maria Marconi!

And this element of Otto & Anna Maria’s relationship even carried over to the pages of The Clone Conspiracy event limited series!

[big1ron]

The art isn’t arting so you get low effort doodles.

As much as we all love the long hair you gotta admit for a period there it was *dire*

[laughhardrunfastbekindsblog]

Cade: "I sent a message to Rampart, gave him the chance to tell the Senate the truth before I did it myself."

Me, instant reaction: WHHHYYYYYYYYYYY WOULD YOU DO THAT???!?!?!? You don't give the powerful bad guy a head start! (adding a note to my list of vital life lessons to teach to my future children)

[goalexstark]

Ok so one aspect of Ben’s heel turns that is interesting and I hope gets explored in the upcoming miniseries (Steven foxe actually likes Ben and is the one writing it) is that they both occur in reaction to his autonomy being severely violated.

Yes I will elaborate

His turn as the jackal comes from Warren physically torturing him to death multiple times and forcibly bringing him back against his will and his current status as Chasm comes from beyond violating his mind to the point where his own face in the mirror is something he can’t see. (don’t even get me started on how “he willingly trusted them” is a dubious claim at best. They would have had to calibrate that helmet specifically for his brainwaves and they’re a corporation. They would not do this if they didn’t think they could get away with it.)

This all leads into what I think keeps driving Ben into these heel turns is : an inability to admit when he isn’t in control. In order for him to actually heal (and not just have the symptoms fade), he���d have to actually process and face what’s been done to him for what it was. Which also means he would need to rely on someone else. that’s a tough ask to make of someone whose formative years were spent on the run alone without a consistent support system. who has had his trust taken advantage of on a pretty consistent basis. I’m mostly drawing from some of the lost years and the clone conspiracy tie ins (there’s literally a bit where ock calls him out on how the “cellular degeneration is to keep you in line” thing is bullshit to make him seem in control of things in issue #20. Also reading issue #24 and #22 with lost years issue 0 in mind makes it a great way to close out Ben and warrens relationship.)

His need to seem in control also drives his worst actions during both events too. At the end of clone conspiracy instead of admitting what actually happened, (ock’s vindictive bullshit causing Ben and everyone else to start decaying to dust) his need to seem in control causes him to double down and spread it in the vain belief that he can just revive them later.

Dark web has this too, though it’s harder to see since wells is a shitty writer who needs Madelyn to be the “hero” of the event (don’t get me started on how suspiciously similar Ben’s hallucination and the nightmare that caused her to make that deal are. Seriously don’t) after Ben’s tree rots, just when he’s been abandoned and (at least to him) soon to be discarded and locked up, Janine arrives with Madelyn’s scythe. Right there js the key to keeping them from being separated, from being locked away and forgotten. Peter might have his memories but they’ll have the city and a whole dimension. If they surrender, they’ll be arrested and separated at best so why not go all the way?

All of this leads to the upcoming two issues. ASM #47 and #48, followed by the miniseries (which will hopefully get a full series). Based on the covers and previews, Ben and Janine have reunited and have someone supposedly there to help Ben with his memories who Janine doesn’t trust. Based on the recap text, they likely have to use Peter for part of the restoration. Issue 48 only has the cover but unlike issue 47, Janine is nowhere to be seen. Based on the previews and the fact that the cover shows spidey and Ben fighting, I’m assuming the process fails and something happens to Janine, peter tries to talk but fucks it up (seriously though he sucks at talking to Ben and Janine) and Ben fights/lashes out at him but loses, leading into Chasm curse of Kaine.

Chasm curse of kaine will likely involve his efforts to continue after this devastating defeat. He’s likely to double down and play up the “monster with no remorse or conscience” angle (think faith in 5 by 5) but Kaine knows him better than anyone, even Peter. If anyone can see through Ben’s bullshit, it’s him. Cue them doing an enemy mine (bc they’re bound to have at least one instance of it.)/Kaine helping him get Janine back.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that there is a route to take his character that can make it work. Maybe not perfectly, but there is a way to tie things together and make a path forward to something new.

[lizartgurl]

"What do you know about their needs, Admiral? Have you asked them? Or do they not get a say in their future?"

Senator Riyo Chuchi, The Bad Batch Season Two Episode Seven; "Clone Conspiracy"

[earth90214]

im tired of marvel writers adding new clones and then discarding the interesting, developed, and popular clones that already exist

[doesithavetobeaspider]

Jean Grey: I’ve been killed and resurrected like 5 times! Do you have any idea what that’s like?

*Ben Reilly gives Jim-from-The-Office look to the reader*

Ben Reilly(voiceover): Amateur.

[babyscilence]

I'm on the clone conspiracy arc and I'm not ready 🥲

[lit-works]

The lost journal of Peter Parker

January 4th, 2016

Gwen explained

Finally, the truth about Gwen Stacy and the second Spider-Man came out into the open. Professor Miles Warren was The Jakal, and he had genetically engineered Spider-Man and Gwen Stacy clones. I stopped him, but a bomb exploded, killing both my clone and Prof. Warren.

Gwen left, leaving behind the city and it's people that believed her dead, to start anew somewhere else.

As for my clone, I don't know why I just tossed the body down that chimney. I was in a state of shock. I couldn't think of anything else to do with it and I couldn't just let the police find it.

[ominouspuff]

when ur inconsiderate genetic duplicates fake a few deaths and kill a Sith w/out you

(you are a million other genetic duplicates)

Sketch Week! More concept art for Repurposing GAR armor towards the end of pulverizing wrinkly Sith — A guide by CC-1010, ecstatically-ex-marshal commander of Coruscant (AU)

[samasmith23]

To this day I will NEVER understand what possibly possessed Marvel following Ben Reilly's resurrection to turn him evil not just once... but TWICE?!

I was honestly rather forgiving of The Clone Conspiracy stuff, but as soon as I heard about the conclusion of Spider- Man: Beyond and Dark Web I was like, "No... just no!"

updated an old meme! as far as predictions go, i am awesome at this.

[erinwantstowrite]

I’m excited for the chapter when we see how Gotham views Peter + Spider-man. Cause they must have obviously noticed a new kid hanging around the Wayne’s and at first they’re like ��Bruce did it again” but they look closer and they’re like “wait that kid looks like dick?? Why is dick being fatherly with this random???? Is dick someone’s baby daddy????”.

They’ll try to do the math: “this kid looks to be 12 and dick is 29 so HE WAS 17 WHEN HE HAD HIM?????!??!”

well the waynes are publicly involved with gotham programs and all that, so it's not too out of the way to see a couple waynes around gotham shopping with a kid or helping out, etc. and then while at the manor, peter hasn't left other than to hang out with dick, adn they've been pretty incognito for the most part. the only people that know where peter went are the kids that Maps hangs out with, Benny, and those people from the diner. all of which didn't take pictures

what i'm saying is is that at some point we're definitely gonna have a plotline where Vicki Vale tries to have everyone believe that Dick is Peter's dad and every single one of our beloved characters gaslight the fuck out of her, as per usual. to the point that they probably create fake photos to make it look like peter is a cousin or something, and their shared relatives just have very strong genes on that side of the family. cause they love to lie

though sometimes i do think dick would claim that peter is his son, regardless of the rumors that come out of it

[goalexstark]

Ok so I understand why people hated clone conspiracy and tbh I would probably hate it too if I was reading it as it came out, but I think having access to all the tie ins (especially ASM (2015) #22 and #24) made me like Ben as the jackal more than I would if I was just reading the main event series itself.

The series still definitely has its flaws, (for example, Gwen and her dad having to die again) like how Peter is so quick to be buddy buddy with Otto despite him only turning on Ben for a woman who wants nothing to do with him and him being the first to set off the signal on purpose while being of relatively sound mind compared to when Ben spread the signal further. And Peter, despite him knowing that Ben was experimented on and killed multiple painful ways and that Ben was a hero for years prior to his death, rejects both his offer and his status as real, even calling him “just another bad guy to punch” when he asks Peter for help.

Here’s some of my favorite jackal!ben moments (part one)

[i-dont-know-how-this-site-works]

I've truly hit rock bottom.

The major complaint with all our delusional takes regarding Tech's survival is that we are taking them out of our asses, but in this case, it is quite literally outta someone's ass.

Look, I don't wanna dunk on my main man, but Tech's got no booty. He is as flat as an airport landing strip in the Netherlands. I don't know what voodoo dark magic Nala Se did to strip Tech of the standard issue clone tushy, because our next possible candidate for Clone CX-2 is Cody, and dude is packin'.

Exhibit 1:

Certified 0° booty.

Exhibit 2:

That's a category 10 booty right here ^.

Now, fortunately for us the creatives put Clone CX-2 in a leotard from the waist down, so we got an unobstructed view of the clone's behind and I gotta say, it's some pretty convincing evidence right here that CX-2 is Tech.

Also, I made this account three years ago and have never changed the profile picture before, but today I did cause delusion is swallowing me whole.