#Claudia X undertaker

[chasiufan]

Some old undertaker pieces I did that I never posted (:

[dqrkncss666]

Welcome to another Theory Show with Dora on crack.

Today we will talk about this:

So.

WHERE IS FRANCIS?!

As we can see we have Claudia P. and Cedric K. Ros- something, they have done the deed and created Vincent.... Where is FRANCIS?!

As we see on the family tree, again, Vincent continues to marry Rachel and have the Phantomhive twins. WHERE IS FRANCIS?!

Shouldn't she have been on Vincent's left?

Now, if we go with the theory that Cedric is, in fact, the Undertaker then this could be an error Yana made or, over here, the German shinigamis are following ONLY O/Ciel's bloodline going up to his father and then going up to his grandmother. Which is a logical explanation as to why Francis is not there. This is the best scenario and the one I like to believe.

But what if Undertaker is not actually Cedric and Francis not being on there is on purpose? What if Claudia wasn't faithful to her legal husband Cedric and had an affair with the Undertaker creating an illegitimate daughter?

Without having done any research, I personally believe that this would explain why Francis married out of the Phantomhive family so quickly. She had no title and her position and the family's reputation were on the verge of scandal. Her marrying Alexis Midford and becoming a Marquisses would not allow any time for anyone to question her legitimacy and of course, keeping the family name clean.

Could her wedding with Alexis have been merely to cover up her mother's doing? Maybe Claudia betrothed her to Alexis when Francis was a baby so she could be sure her daughter would never face any problems with her title and fortune being on the verge.

But then we come over to Vincent, does he know his sister is his half-sister?

Over to the Undertaker now, if this theory is true why is he protecting the Phantomhives only and not the Midfords as well? Did he protect them "off-camera" as we say, in the Campania? Will we see it in a flashback?

Does the British Shinigami dispatch have knowledge of this family tree? Why have we never seen anyone speaking of it? They clearly don't know anything.

DOES FRANCIS KNOW?! Is that why every time she sees the Undertaker her face changes? Does she hate him? Perhaps she thinks he is the one who ruined the Phantomhive family and her future.

If this theory is true, are we gonna have a chapter (when Yana finally comes back from her hiatus because she clearly wrote herself into a wall) of Francis arguing with the Undertaker about him ruining her family and making her an illegitimate daughter with no title and no fortune? Him trying to comfort his daughter and calm her anger down and finally seeing those two be kind to one another?

But this is merely a theory after I got crack. We will see. :>

[alexisyoko]

Undertaker x Claudia

[darkspellmaster]

Hiii i love ur phantomhive at NRC so much its my occasiinal dopamine n ur one of the best authors i know cuz like u rly made the characters n ocs feel human ❤️❤️ i just wanna know, as a claudiataker believer wats ur opinion on claudia x undertaker? I have seen the parts of the fic where it hints to their relationship esp w undertaker talking abt her like a simp lmao (affectionate),, and im crossing my fingers n hoping to have more mentions abt her cuz i know ur writing will do her character n relstionships justice aaaaaaa

Thank you so very much! 💝

It's an honor to be considered as such, thank you again for your kind comment. I really do appreciate it, and I'm trying very hard to keep them human and sounding like the characters in the story.

Claudia x Undertaker is one of my jams, and honestly, it seems where it's going given the hints that we have. Yana has said before that the girl's resemble their father's and the boys their mothers. Ciel and Lizzie respectively show this, since OCiel may have Vincent's hair and beauty, he also has, as Aunt Ann said, Rachel's eyes. And it's true for Lizzie as she resembles her father, in looks and somewhat personality (He trusts RCiel it seems, while Francis seems to be hesitating). With this in mind, if you look at Aunt Francis, she looks very much like Undertaker, down to the damn hair and eye color. Where as Vincent most likely looked like his mother, we know they shared the same hair as well.

I'm hoping to bring it up again later in the story with Undertaker talking to certain characters. Though how much is going to depend on where and when it will fit in. I want to, at some point, write a fanfic about the two of them as a couple, but I'm not sure of the plot.

I love the two of them as a couple and honestly I'm hoping to get more details at some point of them in the manga.

Hope that answers the question.

[abybweisse]

People who don't believe in or even Hate the undertaker=cedric theory always have tow reasons, 1,they simp over ut so bad that they can't tolerate him having kids with another person 2, it will make him absurd, because love makes things cheap and not interesting, which I highly disagree with,because if there was anything ever between them I highly doubt it was lovey dovey and healthy, I mean we have ut who is a literal death God and I don't see him as a caring and gentle person like many do at all, and then we have claudia p ( I meant c'mon she is the grandmother of ciel and the mother of vincent, just imagine how deranged and manipulative she herself was) so I really think the relationship between tham was fascinating although I don't think we will ever get a flashback of them because it's not relevant to the current story... just wanted to know ur opinion on this.

Some UT x Claudia/Cloudia thoughts

Well, anon, it's an interesting take, and I agree with certain elements of it, but I have to disagree with the rest.

Some fans might simp over him so much they can't stand the thought of him canonically with anyone, and some might find the "I did it for love" motive to be too cliché and boring. But there are other reasons I've seen for why detractors or critics of the theory don't like it.

Many of them can't handle the idea that a reaper could or would mate with a human. I believe it's entirely possible within the Kuroverse; it's just forbidden. Well, when you are a reaper who has deserted your post, why would you care anymore about the rules? In fact, I think he could have his own motives for mating with humans... like giving his human offspring traits that are supposed to be reserved for reapers. Or even with the intention of decreasing the number of new reapers (if they are reborn to reaper couples, as I theorize). A relatively small chunk of the fandom doesn't want Undertaker to be Vincent's father... because they ship those two guys together. Though, finding out they are father and son might not entirely stop them. 😑

It's possible that a relationship between Undertaker and Claudia/Cloudia wouldn't be the healthiest thing for either of them... but I can totally see it being lovey dovey 🥰. Don't forget that well-written characters aren't so one-sided, and they are allowed to be -- for example -- manipulative and cruel and loving and generous, depending on the circumstances. Undertaker can be gentle and caring; he might have been even more so before she died. Grandma P might have been strong willed and possessing of an evil streak a mile wide, but she also might have fallen head over heels for the most attractive male character in the series, according to Yana-san herself. Don't forget that despite him being cruel and manipulative as queen's watchdog, Vincent does truly love his family -- something else Yana-san has previously said. Why wouldn't people like Undertaker and Claudia/Cloudia produce children like Vincent and Francis/Frances? They seem exactly like the sort of offspring I'd imagine from a pairing like that. They might have had children together for more than one reason, but I believe love is one of them. An act of rebellion might be another. 😏

I sure expect at least one flashback of them together, since it's totally relevant to what's going on. Remember when Sebastian asks our earl just how far back they have to follow the series of events to figure out which culprits to target for revenge? Well, I think our earl's problems largely started with that pairing. Or, more specifically, started with people who didn't appreciate that pairing. I think it's why she died when (and however) she did. I think it adds to the various reasons why the Phantomhives were attacked in 1885. Forget the fans who don't like the pairing; there must be someone in the story that doesn't like it, either. Like the queen... or John Brown....

When Sebastian asks Undertaker what his relationship to the Phantomhive family is, he says he'll leave it up to imagination. But, eventually, I expect him to explain it anyway. And that's when we'd likely get at least a panel or two of them together. We could even get several chapters of them together in a long flashback.

[blackbutlerfandomnerddomain]

So, you know how Undertaker ask for laughter and he'll spill knowledge?

What if this all started cause of Claudia?

Like, he has to ask for her help for whatever reason and in the middle of it he wound up acting like a dumb-ass. He looks up to see Claudia full on laughing and snorting away.

Soon it began the process of transaction between the two and Undertaker too started using that in his work but the best thing is Claudia was the main one to make him laugh hard whenever she's working on something Underworld related

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undertaker and claudia

[imintobones]

Happy Claudiataker day, because as you guys know, every day is Claudiataker day

[hisbutleronhiatus]

It has been 11 days since the Kuroshitsuji hiatus was announced.

Undertaker visited the cemetery to place a bouquet of white lilies at Claudia’s grave.

[blxxdingstars]

Is Claudia near Undertaker?

During reading the manga again I’ve noticed a skull on a pillow on Undertaker’s desk. I wonder whose it could be?

Undertaker was seen cuddling a skeleton also on other official arts like these below:

What do you think @abybweisse​ ?

[chasiufan]

Claudia 👏 mention 👏 in 👏 episode 👏 11 👏 EVERYONE CHEERED

[hoomandoescosplay]

Long Lost Sister | Sebastian Michaelis x OC

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[alexisyoko]

Undertaker x Claudia

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[warmmilk-n-honey]

Cloudia Phantomhive probably

[abybweisse]

Wat r ur undertaker x claudia headcanons? Feel free to rant abt it lmao I love ur kuroshitsuji posts btw!! Ive binged ur posts and esp love ur undie is cedric, undertakerxclaudia n mother 3 posts! Thanks for being indepth with the analysis :D

UTxClaudia headcanons

Permission to rant appreciated!

However, idk if I have any new headcanons for them. 🤔 I guess I can restate some of them and go into a bit more detail here and there.

She was a willful, take charge kind of person and knew that getting involved with Undertaker could prove to be problematic.

He is actually a very serious person, but her humor got to him, and now that's why he craves laughter. It temporarily alleviates his sense of loss.

He was more worried about possible consequences than she was, and he kept giving her warnings... much like we've seen him warn our earl about protecting his soul. Like Vincent, she probably just did whatever she was going to do... and tried to plan/prepare for her own demise. Our earl has also largely been ignoring Undertaker's advice, but it's hard to take advice to protect your soul... when you already have a contract with a demon, and when you are already living on borrowed time.

She probably named the children, just like Rachel does. I suspect she chose those names as a subtle "giving the finger" to the crown. Rachel doesn't want "tedious" English names, but she could be making a political statement. Could be a similar situation for Claudia.

She and Undertaker could have had children as an "eff you" to the crown. Some way of fighting the system from within.

I doubt she and Undertaker/Cedric were ever married, so that would make their kids bastards, children born out of wedlock. Then to give them French names about being victorious and free? Oof 😅

Maybe they hoped to remove the Phantomhive family from service to the monarchy. But she fails when Vincent steps up to fill the vacancy. We still don't know how all that went down.

[blackbutlerfandomnerddomain]

Do you think Undertaker is Cedric or do you think Cloudia cheated on her husband?

I believe and like both theories!

Both him being Cedric but worked as the funeral parlor Undertaker after his reaper retirement is already a fun theory but also the theory of Undertaker and Claudia having an affair that led to both Vincent and Francis being born~