#Claiming inheritance

[dc-probate-attorney]

Do I Have Standing to Contest a Will?

In this article, we’re talking about contesting a will. This is a type of estate litigation, and we’ve written an entire series on this subject. If you missed any of our posts in this series, please see our Index to the series to catch up on what you’ve missed, or to skip ahead to the topic that interests you. The Gormley Law Office is pleased to present this information. We are a full service…

[magicaledford]

Failed the shost assignment, accidentally Too High(ha) Quality

[clarissaweasley-10]

Grayson: What does 'idk' mean?

Lyra: I don't know

Grayson: me neither..

[lyrakanefanatic]

OKAY SO I WAS REREADING THE HAWTHORNE LEGACY THE OTHER DAY AND REALIZED HOW MUCH OF A QUEEN MAX IS, SO I ROUNDED IP EVERY ICONIC COMMENT SHES EVER MADE/ EVERY ICONIC THING SHES EVER DONE AND HERE THEY ARE 😜😜

THESE TWO ABOVE ⬆️ WERE SO FUNNY LIKE MAX IS MY QUEEN 💀💀

AND THE FACT THAT THATS NOT EVEN ALL 💀💀 I HAVE MORE AND IM GOING TO BE MAKING A PART TWO PROBABLY RIGHT AFTER POSTING THIS BECAUSE I JUST LOVE HER TOO MUCH 💗💗

if maxine liu has 1000 lovers im one of them. if maxine liu has 100 lovers i am, yet again, one of them. if maxine liu has 1 lover that’s me. if maxine liu has 0 lovers, im dead.

[lunamond]

Rhaenyra‘s sons‘ illegitamcy is actually such a fascinating topic to discuss. Because on one side, yes, she should be allowed to have children with the partner of her chosing. But on the other side, the way she handles the situation, she manages to upset almost every cultural norm surrounding this issue, further alienating potential allies.

According to the social and cultural norms of their world, Rhaenyra and her sons are being valued as lesser for the circumstances of their birth. This a result of westerosi male primogeniture, which has to police woman sexuality in order to ensure that wealth and power get passed through the male family line.

Bastards born from the affairs of male lords are tolerated because they do not endanger the system of power, while male bastards especially are still marginalised (as seen with Jon) the father isn‘t subjected to any form of social scorn.

On the flip side, a noblewoman fathering a bastard is a direct threat to the system of male primogeniture. A woman will always know her biological children by the simple fact that she gave birth to them.

Men, however, don’t have this certainty. To ensure that their heirs are their own biological offspring they need complete insurence that their wives are soley sexually active with them, hence the policing of female sexuality and the obsession with female virginity.

This tactic is obviously not foolproof. A clever wife might still manage to have a secret affair and pass off another man‘s child as her husband's. This anxiety and continued incertainty is reflected in the social censure woman receive for acting as sexual beings and the severe social and legal punishment a wife who has been judged as unfaithful can face.

What makes Rhaenyra‘s position unique, however, is the fact that she is Viserys‘ heir.

So if the crown is to pass down from Viserys to Rheanyra and through her to her own heirs, why does Jace‘s legitamacy even factor into all this? Some people in the fandom make that argument: If Rheanyra inherits in her own right, why does it matter who fathers her children?

The problem with this is that even the Lords can‘t declare their bastard heir without expressed permission from the king. So, firstly Rhaenyra would need to publicly aknowledge her sons as ilegitamte for Viserys to legitamise them.

Secondly, even if inheritance in the male linegage is important, marriages in Westeros are still utilised to forge political and economical ties. Any Lord, who wants to make their bastard heir instead of the children born by his legal wife, will at best destroy any goodwill given by her family or at worst start a generations long feud.

Rhaenyra‘s position isn't as simple as a mere reversal of the genders. She can't just take the role of the Lord, she is still a woman and society will continue to treat her as such. Laenor is still bringing his own inheritance of Driftmark to ther union, separate from any claims Rhaenyra holds.

While she is lucky enough not to lose the Velaryons as her allies, it does lead to tensions surrounding the succession of Driftmark.

Another argument then is, if Laenor and Corlys aknowledge Jace, Luce and Joffery as Velaryon their blood shouldn‘t matter.

However, that is also not how westerosi society works. Because to them, blood does matter. Laenor and Corlys can claim them as Velaryon as much as they want. But as Varys puts it: „Power resides where men believe it to reside“, and as long as the westerosi people believe that blood lines are vital to the right to rule, the boys‘ right to Driftmark will continue to be questioned. Family names and blood lines are super important (and not just socially, considering how many magic blood lines exist in this world).

And to me it seems pretty clear that Corlys is aware of this fact as well, because he never publicly anounces that their blood doesn‘t matter, in fact he claims them to be Velaryon as Laenor‘s sons.

And this is ultimately the issue at heart of all the vitrol thrown at Rhaenyra. The reason she faces so much push back isn’t just because she had bastards but specifcally because she tries to pass them off as legitemate. With this she triggers the deeply ingrained social anxiety about women duping their husband and disrupting the blood line with their own kuckucks child.

It doesn‘t truely matter that her position is slightly different, because for one Westeros is deeply misogynistic. Even as a female heir she is still subject to the misogynistic standards put on women, because no matter her personal circumstances, their society is still built to cater to male power.

But even more damming is the fact that she ends up proving all these fears true, because she does take Driftmark away from a true Velaryon heir and gives it to Luce.

I think it is really fascinating (in a very concerning way), how some fans are so ready to take these societal rules as hard facts. Instead of thinking how they might reflect on inherently flawed systems of power.

As viewers we should be capable to recognize that these cultural norms are wrong. Jace, Luce and Joffery might be bastards but this doesn't devalue them as human beings. Nor does it impact their capabilites as future rulers. Nor does Rhaenyra‘s gender impact her‘s. There is nothing that make a trueborn man more worthy of ruling than a bastard or a woman.

But important to remember is also that Rhaenyra isn‘t going to make a better ruler soley on the virtue of being the firstborn or chosen by Viserys. Nor are her sons going to make better heirs because they are her children.

[the-inheritance-games]

I've been thinking about the grandest games a lot lately, here is a scene I hope we get

Eve: *being annoying trying to get Grayson to side with her/pity her/ help her whatever*

Phone girl: *annoyed and kinda mad and dead serious staring at Eve and pointing at Gray w/ her thumb* he's mine

Grayson: *looks at phone girl then at Eve nodding* I'm hers

I also imagine her in a black dress with a deep neckline and slit high up her thigh in almost a fighting stance while doing this, or sitting on a large chair like it's a throne and leaning forward as she says it

[sunnysideaeggs]

If Rhaenyra married Daemon while Laenor was still alive and gave birth to Aegon and viserys, wouldn’t they be bastards too?

And if they are then Daenerys’ line shouldn’t technically inherit the throne. The next legitimate heir would have been Rhaena’s or Baela’s children but nobody knew

exactly anon, the show wanted to avoid the ‘bury your gays’ trope, but accidentally made bastards of all of rhaenyra’s children. or they could be legitimate: my personal pet theory is that the little rowboat that laenor escaped in was unfortunately ambushed by a mercenary ship, courtesy of daemon.

daenerys shouldn’t inherit the throne because the kingdom was rightfully conquered by robert, so she doesn’t have a claim to the IT by succession anymore. the targaryen line was replaced by the baratheon line. if we go by ‘lawful’ inheritance the rightful king is stannis and his heir is shireen, but again, the throne was (kinda) conquered by the lannisters, so now the baratheon line was replaced by the lannister line.

daenerys can win the 7K by conquest, and the ‘rightful heir’ thingy will only be a way to make her reign be accepted more easily. one big thing in asoiaf is that no one has an inherent right to the throne, and often the kingdom is gained by bigger army diplomacy. robert admitted it: he came and won the war, now he’s king. maesters brought up his grandmother rhaelle as a way to give him more legitimacy, but what could they do really? try and get him out of the throne and start another war?

if daenerys wins her conquest war the lords will make many excuses about her being ‘the rightful queen’ because she’s the last targaryen, but the truth is that no one can keep her from taking the throne even if she wasn’t. until another dude pops up and takes the throne from her and arguments about this new person being the rightful heir if we go by this tradition or blah blah come up again.

[midiosaamor]

give me face claims of avery pls chat

[queenvhagar]

I love that Aemond claimed Vhagar. Not only did he have every right to do so, as well as the courage, nerve, and determination to approach Vhagar how and when he did... I also love that nobody expected Aemond to be so daring as to find and approach Vhagar at the first opportunity.

In hindsight, they should have known. He'd snuck into the dragonpit several times before this and had almost been killed attempting to find his own dragon.

It's no wonder that when he heard Vhagar calling out as the sun set on Driftmark he went out to find her.

All of this is especially more likely when considering his motivations: all of his siblings and nephews, all but Aegon younger than him, had already become dragonriders, something Aegon and the Strong boys loved to make fun of him for.

The bullying by his brother and nephews was one motivation. Another was that as Alicent's second son, his father paid him little attention. But maybe if he could finally claim a dragon - the biggest and oldest dragon, at that, the same dragon his father's father claimed - he could prove his worth to everyone in his family.

Instead, upon claiming Vhagar, he was immediately ambushed by his nephews and cousins. As he defended himself against four attackers, his nephew pulled a blade and sliced through his eye.

That boy's mother demanded Aemond be tortured for saying something during the fight that everyone knew to be true, and Aemond's father turned on him in favor of her.

That boy was never once reprimanded for what he did to Aemond - nor were his accomplices - and the only ones who seemed to care at all about his suffering and permanent disfigurement were his mother and siblings.

Is it any surprise after this that he embraced his dragon's warrior legacy and trained to become the ultimate fighter? He saw how vulnerable he and his family truly were, how their well-being mattered so little to the rest of the family, and he did all in his power to become the kind of man who could protect them and who would never be overtaken in combat again.

[chaotic-tired-bastard]

yall want OC lore? No? Too Bad

[fromtheseventhhell]

Saying that non-conforming female characters don't face as much misogyny as their "feminine" counterparts is so funny cause literally the misogyny in their treatment is more overt because they aren't staying "in their place" like men think they should. The disdain for women + misogynistic societal ideals are so much more blatant in male characters interacting with these women. Countless times they are, in essence, told they need to sit down, shut up, and know their place but somehow that translates into them having "masculine privilege". I can only assume that people with this take haven't actually read the books and only get their information from second-hand sources.

[cthoniian]

can we stop calling rhaenyra’s sons illegitimate? SHE is the one they inherit through. SHE is the royal line, the sperm is irrelevant???? esp since laenor & corlys & viserys!!!!!! all claimed them.

let me say it again.

RHAENYRA’S SONS ARE LEGITIMATE TARGARYENS BECAUSE SHE IS THEIR MOTHER - THE SPERM DONOR IS IRRELEVANT.

you’d think they’d be a bit fucking less dense in 2024 than in some made up fantasy world. like damn yall rly out here acting like laenors dick woulda made them the heir to the throne vs the fact rhaenyra literally birthed them.

[wonder-worker]

The division between the two families [the Woodvilles and the Nevilles] and their allies can be seen in the royal charters that they witnessed. Warwick, Rivers and Archbishop Neville of York, while serving as chancellor and afterwards, were fairly constant witnesses to royal charters and consequently often appeared together. This was not, however, the case for other family members and friends. From 1466 to 1469, if Scales or Woodville associates like Sir John Fogge, John Lord Audley or Humphrey Lord Stafford of Southwick witnessed royal charters, then members of the Neville group, such as John Neville, earl of Northumberland, or John Lord Wenlock would not, and vice versa. Discounting the ubiquitous Warwick, Rivers and Archbishop Neville, of the twenty-four charters issued between February 1466 and June 1469, twelve were witnessed by men associated with the Woodvilles, eight by men associated with the Nevilles and two were witnessed by no member of either group beyond the two earls at their heads and the archbishop; only two charters, both from 1466, featured associates of both families.

Such striking segregation of witnesses suggests that something more than simple convenience or availability was at play. [...] The evidence of these witness lists does show the extent of the split between the two groups from early in Edward's [first] reign and of the need for political society to work with that cleavage in the heart of the Yorkist regime."

-Theron Westervelt, "Royal charter witness lists and the politics of the reign of Edward IV"

*This is specifically applicable for Edward IV's first reign; in contrast, the charters in his second reign displayed a great deal of aristocratic and domestic unity and cohesion.

[charsoamerican]

This is how I picture tig characters ~

Avery: this is exactly how I picture her so I don’t really have anything to say

Jameson: Louis Partridge. Yes.

Grayson: this isn’t perfect but it’s the closest picture I could find. Nobody in this world is perfect enough to be Grayson tbh

Nash: again, this is perfect but also why so hot like is Nash rlly that hot idk

Xander: I couldn’t find a good photo for him at allll

Also if you couldn’t tell I’m in love with all of the Hawthorne brothers so yeah 🫶🫶

[edennill]

I really like to think that celebrimbor approaches elwing on balar once (sirion and balar kind of work as a union of sorts in my mind but even without this she must have visited sometimes), and at first she's frightened and evasive, but then he says he understands if she never wants anything to do with him again, but he just has to tell her that as far as he has any say in it, the silmaril is 100% hers.

[mawofmeraxes]

honestly I feel like anyone who thinks that Rhaena had a birthright to Vhagar and that aemond “stole”her doesn’t really understand exactly how dragons work in this universe. The second Laena died (RIP queen) Vhagar was a completely free dragon. Anyone could claim her. But honestly that doesn’t even mean just anyone could. Targaryens don’t just claim their dragons, because they are NEVER in complete control of them. The dragons choose who will ride them because there is a special bond. Vhagar CHOSE aemond to be her rider. If she didn’t want him he would have been gobbled up by granny. Like we have no idea if Vhagar would have accepted Rhaena as her rider but just because Vhagar was her mothers does not mean that she immediately became Rhaena’s. Like meemaw’s a war dragon, I feel like in her mind she knew her next rider would be committing various war-crimes (babygirl aemond)