#Cecily Neville

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THE WHITE QUEEN (2013) — In Love With The King| dir. James Kent 🎬 A gifset per episode. [1/10]

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Book illustration - Anne & Cecily Neville.

There's not much difference between a woman and a caged bear cub. We are prisoners in our own marriage, Cecily.

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THE WHITE QUEEN 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY WEEK | Day 7 (August 20): Free Day → Favorite Costumes

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something I find especially entertaining about Edward IV's reign is how Scandalous™ it was lol

he married a woman “whose origins broke all established conventions for English queenship” in a secret ceremony without consulting any of his lords and then made it everyone else's problem. he committed regicide, he committed fratricide; he was accused of bastardry, he was accused of bigamy and a 19-year-long sham marriage, he was accused of using necromancy against his subjects, he was accused of being enchanted by witchcraft by both his wife and his mother-in-law (multiple times). his own mother was said to "rule the king as she pleased" in the early years of his reign. he knew he was hot and actively milked it for money. he was vain as fuck: “he was wont to show himself to those who wished to watch him, and he seized any opportunity that the occasion offered of revealing his fine stature to onlookers”. he knew everything about everyone. "he was more favourable than other princes to foreigners". he was “fond of boon companionship, vanities, debauchery, extravagance and sensual enjoyments”; he was "thought to have indulged in his passions and desires too intemperately”; "it was ever feared he was not chaste”. his subjects publicly gossiped about his sex life, his doctors thought he was insane. NOBODY understood how he was still competent despite all this.

honestly, who was doing it like him?

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Here’s a more grounded historical hypothetical before we get into the truly ridiculous ones:

As always there will be rounds to this poll so I will try to cover more historical figures from around this era. I just tend to start around the War of the Roses/The Tudors because they’re my favourite time periods.

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UPDATES ONCE A WEEK: Being written alongside Nikolina Rewrite of The Grisha Trilogy.

Relationships: Gwyane Hightower X Original Female Character, Jacaerys Velaryon X Original Female Character, Perkin Warbeck X Catherine Gordon.

Characters: Cecily-Anne (OC), Jacaerys Velaryon, Rhaenyra Targaryen, Daemon Targaryen, Alicent Hightower, Gwayne Hightower, Richard III, Anne Neville, Henry Tudor, Richard of Shrewsbury.

Taglist: @lordbettany, @rmelster, @fauxraven, @dreadbirate @hysterionic

Summary:

Reeling from the battle of Redmore Plain (later known as Bosworth Field), fifteen year old Cecily-Anne is a princess without her throne, family, or hope. Forced to play her cards with both hands tied, a seemingly mystical intercession forces her into a world that is shockingly similar to the England she knows. Yet it is also drastically different. It is there as a mere lady in waiting, that she is forced to pick a side in a war that has been played over in her England for decades. It remains to see as to whom will come out from this “Dance of Dragons,” unscathed and whole.

Notes:

General Tws: Brutal violence, implied sexual violence, sexism of the medieval period, religious mention, brutality. This is the first time the author has written for Gwayne Hightower, so please be kind! The author also only has a surface level knowledge of House of the Dragon/Game of Thrones, so please be courteous when making comments or suggestions. The Author is a history student with a special interest in the Wars of the Roses and Ricardian sources, so knowledge of that period will be largely correct.

Specific tags on Ao3:

Time Travel, Time Travel Fix-it, Alternate Universe - Fantasy, Alternate Universe - Soulmates, Alternate Universe -Historical.

Published Chapter List on Tumblr:

If not to heaven, then hand in hand to hell

2. Humbly beg the death upon my knee

3. Strangeness and Charm

Wip chapters

4. The Lady of the North - 0k words.

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spouses of claimants to the english throne

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(Almost) Every Costume Per Episode + Duchess Cecily's black gown with red and black print in 1x02,4

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Here smth I think my rotrk moots will like

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The craziest thing in The White Princess is that Duchess Cecily suddenly cares about her grandchildren by Elizabeth Woodville as though she were not gleeful at the thought of them becoming illegitimate in The White Queen.

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Hello dear ladies and gentlemen, I am new on Tumblr and I have quite a prolonged desire to create historical content, where I can share information, personal theories and attitudes toward specific historical characters and events or analysis of period daramas about them, how accurately they are portrayed,how close is costume design to fashion of their respective timeline, etc. I have particularl interest towards female figures in history therefore one of my preferred thematics are:

1. The wars of roses

2. English reformation

3. French wars of religion

4. Sultanate of women

I was kind of History nerd since childhood and gathered some information about this time periods and all those fascinating participants ( especially women),explore controversial events and form my own perspective of it,but I really ever had opportunity to share it with someone, so I have decided to write posts on Tumblr. Here is where I need your help, I am kind of weak in names. I really want my content to become readable and popular, where people would be able to express their own opinions, ask questions and simply enjoy reading it and first step to gather such audience is creating name,which is again my weak spot. So can you help my find some interesting and eye catching name for my blogs?

P.S I will just leave list of my favourite historical figures here😅:

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Book illustration - Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland with her daughters.

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[wonder-worker]

what did cicely neville do in edward iv's reign?

Hi! Cecily’s entire role during Edward IV’s reign is too long and complex to fully get into right now, so this is just going to be a very brief overview. It’s also not going to touch on her relationship with her daughter-in-law Elizabeth, even though that's somewhat relevant here in some aspects, because that’s also too complex and speculatory.

Ironically, despite the Duke of York’s claims to kingship, it was only after his death and during her widowhood that Cecily Neville truly emerged as a “quasi-queen”. After her son Edward IV had been acclaimed as King in London, and before he left for Towton with the other lords, he summoned the mayor and “all the notables of London” to gather and “recommended them to the duchess his mother”. During his absence, Cecily would preside over his household in Baynard Castle and was probably meant to act as his representative of sorts in the city. After his kingship was more firmly established, Cecily primarily resided at Westminster with him from 1461-64 and regularly accompanied him on several ceremonial and political occasions, such as their visit to Canterbury where she was magnificently welcomed. She also appears to have had a great deal of personal and political influence with her son: Nicholas O’Flanagan, the contemporary Bishop of Elpin, observed in the first few years of Edward IV's reign, his mother could “rule the king as she pleases.” This may have relied on popular topos of mothers and their young sons, it may have reflected reality, or it may have been exaggerated - we don't really know - but it does indicate Cecily's prominent position.

Cecily’s role demonstrably changed after Edward’s marriage to Elizabeth Woodville in 1464. She remained the second-highest ranked woman in the country, but she took a significant step back from high politics (a la Joan of Kent after her son’s marriage to Anne of Bohemia). That does not mean that either of them suddenly became apolitical or uninvolved: quite the opposite*. Cecily remained the head of a large household, her administration supported her son’s, she continued to support a few religious institutions, she engaged in trade, she launched court cases, and she clearly inspired loyalty among her affinity. All of this was fairly standard for a medieval noblewoman, but was naturally enhanced by Cecily’s own prominent royal status. Cecily was godmother to at least three of the royal children: Elizabeth of York, her namesake Cecily, and the youngest child, Bridget. She also played a role in reconciling her son George to the Yorkist cause in 1471, though she did not have the spearheading role which has often been erroneously credited to her by historians (ie: “engineering peace between her warring sons”); instead, it was her daughters Anne and Margaret who took the leading role in achieving the reconciliation, while Cecily probably aided them. She was also clearly perceived to be influential with Edward IV, best evidenced by how the mayors of Norwich petitioned her to aid them against the Duke of Suffolk in 1480, though we don’t actually know the result of Cecily’s intervention to judge whether it succeeded or how effective it was**. Regardless, though, she evidently had a much lower national profile during these years.

(On a more personal level, we also have a very sweet anecdote from Elizabeth Stonor who spoke of a meeting between Cecily and Edward in October 1476 at Greenwich: 'and ther I  sawe the metyng betwyne the Kynge and my ladye his Modyr. And trewly me thowght it was a very good syght’.)

Cecily’s numerous titles are also interesting. Immediately after Edward IV’s ascension, she called herself “the Kyngs Moder, Duchess of York”. Variations of the title included references to her late husband, but she primarily defined herself in relation to her son, through whom her current position and power derived. As Laynesmith says: "narrative accounts, particularly chronicles, had naturally used the phrase ‘the king’s mother’ to describe women in the past, especially Joan of Kent. However, it was Cecily who turned this into a specific title in her letters and on her seals." A few months after Edward's marriage was announced, Cecily adopted a new title, now styling herself as: “By the ryghtful enheritors Wyffe late of the Regne off Englande & of Fraunce & off ye lordschyppe off yrlonde, the kynges mowder ye Duchesse of Yorke.” This referenced the Yorkist perception of her husband, Richard Duke of York, who was called the "true and indubitable heir" of England. In 1477, a herald for the wedding of her grandson Richard of Shrewsbury styled Cecily as “the right high and excellent Princesse and Queene of right, Cicelie, Mother to the Kinge”. This was once again linked to her husband’s status: Cecily described him in her letters as “in right King of England and of France and lord of Ireland”. All in all, Cecily’s various designations appear to have been designed to signify her own importance within the regime, to uphold the claim of her late husband, and to strengthen Edward IV’s position by promoting him as the son of the (supposedly) rightful heir. It’s also very possible, as Laynesmith has suggested, that “it was as her queenly power diminished [after the early 1460s] that her claims to queenship were more elaborately emphasized in wax and on parchment”.

Cecily’s role and prominence, and how it changed overtime, is best demonstrated by the number of times English subjects offered prayers for her soul in return for grants. Between June 1461 and September 1464, there are twelve instances of grants made to people who offered prayers for her. (To compare, during the first three years of Elizabeth Woodville's queenship, there were sixteen grants of the same type. So, Cecily didn't quite reach the level of the queen, but she came close; it was quintessential "quasi-queenship"). However, mentions of Cecily dramatically deceased following Edward IV's marriage: over the next 19 years till 1483, she is only mentioned five times, and in all cases Elizabeth Woodville was also listed before she was. Three of these mentions are in 1465, likely reflecting contemporary unease with her son's controversial marriage and the perceived unsuitable origins of the new queen. After that, however, Cecily is mentioned only twice: once in 1476 and once in 1481, with the latter being a grant to her own son-in-law Thomas St. Leger***. This fits well with what I mentioned above about her quasi-queenship in the early 1460s, followed by a much more reduced role and lower national profile in the future years.

Hope this helps!

*Oddly, Cecily is not mentioned at all in contemporary reports for her daughter Margaret’s wedding. Laynesmith believes that she was unwell, and that may as well be true, but Margaret's celebrations went on for a great period of time and it does seem conspicuous that Cecily was entirely absent from them all. It's also worth noting that a letter from the Milanese ambassador Giovanni Pietro Panicharolla on the marriage wrote that "the king, the queen, her father, and the king's brothers are all disposed to it" (sidenote: it's VERY interesting that the queen's father is mentioned before the king's own brothers and male heirs) but made no mention of Cecily. Nor, iirc, was she mentioned in the tournament held to celebrate Anglo-Burgundian relations. It does clearly seem as though Cecily did not play a notable role in the marriage, and relevant diplomacy, at all. (Laynesmith's claim that its Cecily had "helped lay the ground for" the marriage because she *checks notes* dispatched both her sons to Burgundy in middle of a civil war 7 years earlier, with many fluctuations in Anglo-Burgundian relations in between, is, I'm sorry to say, nonsense). ** Laynesmith believes that "Cecily’s intervention to control Suffolk perhaps marked a turning point in the duke’s violent career because when he resorted to force again the following summer his victim successfully reclaimed the manor from which he had personally ejected her." I think that Laynesmith is being far too assumptive and that we don’t even know the result of Cecily’s intervention in 1480 to somehow credit her with entirely different case one year later that literally did not even involve her, lol. ***Even more oddly, Cecily’s own son Richard didn’t include her among the list for who to offer prayers for in his college in Middleham in 1478. This was despite the fact that he had included Edward IV, Elizabeth Woodville, his wife Anne Neville, his sisters, his dead brothers and his dead father. It’s incredibly striking, and I wonder what could have happened to cause her exclusion, especially since she was included in religious foundations by both Edward and her son-in-law Thomas St. Leger? Laynesmith claims that "this rather suggests that Richard's own piety was not consciously influenced by hers", and sure, that seems obvious, but it certainly can't have been the only reason. Was she merely overlooked, or did they have a quarrel at the time, or was it for another now-unknown reason? Whatever the case, it's a small but intriguing detail to me.

Sources:

"Cecily, Duchess of York" by J.L. Laynesmith

"A Paper Crown: The Titles and Seals of Cecily, Duchess of York" by J.L. Laynesmith (The Ricardian)

"Cecily Neville: Mother of Kings" by Amy License

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What was Cecily nevile 's opinion or view on his eldest and youngest son ? Edward iv and Richard iii

I think she grew to resent Edward IV because of his actions:

She wasn't happy about his marriage with Elizabeth Woodville, which weakened the Yorkist cause

She probably resented Edward IV for his falling out with the Nevilles (the Kingmaker and Montagu are her nephews)

She obviously disapproved her own son's execution not matter what treason Clarence commited.

I however think she put the bulk of the blame on the Woodvilles. On Richard III, we have less proof but my take is that:

She loved and appreciated his decade-long service to the family and the fact that he became the de facto Neville heir

She approved his usurpation. She approved his destruction of Woodville's power. She preferred, by large, Richard III to Edward V that she didn't know much and was too close to the Woodvilles.

However, there were moments of disapproval: from his assault on some Neville's rights (like Bedford) to him quietly letting Clarence get killed.

So to sum up my personal opinion: she had mixed feelings about Edward IV, and probably loved Richard III more.

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Annie Garthwaite's 'Cecily' Optioned for TV

‘Cecily‘, a novel by author Annie Garthwaite about the life of Richard III and Edward IV‘s mother has been optioned for TV by Just John Films, a newly launched company headed by actors Kate Phillips, Amber Anderson and Rosie Day, who have appeared in such shows as Peaky Blinders, Good Omens, Black Mirror and Outlander. It is their first production. This is great news–finally a TV show set during…