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Saint Peter Damian Doctor of the Church 1007-1072 Feast Day: February 21 (New), February 23 (Trad)
Saint Peter Damian was born into a noble but poor family, orphaned young and left in the hands of a brother who treated him as a slave. Peter’s other brother, a priest, provided Peter an extensive education in theology and canon law. Peter joined a strict order of Benedictines and lead an austere monastic life of prayer, writing treatises, hymns, and letters. He had a great devotion to the Virgin Mary. Eventually, he was made abbot of the order, then a Bishop, and lastly a papal legate. He was a chief forerunner of the Hildebrandine reforms, a peacemaker and troubleshooter, condemning simony and rampant clerical sexual unchastity during the most scandal-plagued 11th-12th c. of the Western Church. St. Peter died of a fever, surrounded by monks in prayer. {website}
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protestants the entire month of october:
#life's like this#protestant#martin luther#reformation#lowkey looking forward to my church's reformation celebration this year#can i get a heck yeah for corporate singing being able to take communion and bibles in the common tongue#@my catholic moots sorry but you'll have to endure this for the next few weeks
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as a 16th century clergyman what does machete think of the printing press
I think by the time he was born the printing press had been around for almost a century and a half, so I'd reckon the society as a whole was largely past it's initial novelty and controversy. Machete himself is bookish and nerdy, he's very invested in gathering knowledge about various topics and trying to piece together a good picture of how the world works. Getting access to reading material would be a lot harder if every book was still copied individually by hand. His standards are pretty high though, there's a lot of poorly translated, shoddily printed and flimsily bound books around and he's prone to scrunching his nose at them.
#his relationship with faith is kind of fraught and unhealthy#but as a top ranking cleric he's nonetheless fiercely protective of the church's interests that's his job#the reformation and the invention of the printing press enabled people to start spreading bootleg vernacular translations of the bible#suddenly folks had a chance to read the holy book in a language they could understand (if you were lucky enough to be literate at least)#this was a big deal remember it used to be only in latin and essentially gatekept by priests#not to mention you could now buy a copy of your own the cost of books had crashed they weren't necessarily rare luxury items anymore#you don't just go and cut out the middleman that's not how this is supposed to work#distressing times in the catholic church#answered#anonymous
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
I think it's a dang shame that we'll put celebration of the day the church split over the day the church was formed.
It's not that I think what the Catholic Church was doing at the time that instigated the Reformation was good or in no need of correction, but rather that God's church was split and created factions upon factions where we now squabble with each other. We went from a united church to one with many denominations that fight with each other about which ones are the "true" ones, or which denominations are "wrong."
Don't get me wrong, I like being Nazarene. I like what the Nazarene church offers, and I agree with Nazarene theology. And it wouldn't be possible without the Reformation. I don't agree with Catholic theology. I think there are many things where they are off base. But there are still those in the Catholic church who are Christian, and I'm not going to write them off because of the Protestant/Catholic chasm.
The Reformation was necessary. I'm not sure it was necessary to celebrate. The Church split. It split. The Church, where Jesus said that the world would know us by the love we have for each other, split.
To put it another way: God's family split. How is that not heartbreaking? I am under no delusion that everyone was working in harmony previously, but still . . . .
When Martin Luther nailed the 95 theses up, his goal was not to split the church. It was to correct the church. But he had lobbed a hand grenade at a festering rot, gone too far deep to accept correction and instead desired to keep its corruption.
There's a lesson in the Reformation. There was good in the Reformation. I do believe God worked in the Reformation. But I feel like the lesson and warning of the Reformation is lost when we celebrate "no longer being Catholic!"
The Reformation should be sobering.
And if we are going to celebrate a formation of the church, why are we putting so much stock on the Reformation, and ignoring the Pentecost, where God came down again?
What is the purpose in celebrating the Reformation, and what is the excuse in forgetting Pentecost?
#catholic means universal#when we split we stopped being the universal church#and it's not that I'm rating enthusiasm for a holiday based on how many posts someone makes about it#but I do think it's telling that this year boasted only a handful of posts regarding Pentecost#in comparison to the flood I'm getting regarding the Reformation#I don't think I'm fool enough to believe no one's posting about Pentecost because they're out having a grand old time celebrating offline#I think we're missing the plot#christianity
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No desire to convert to catholicism but the desire to kind of pretend that no schisms ever happened.
#[sigh] and we'll pray that our unity will one day be restored and they'll know we are christians by our love#txt#It's the bi-monthly angst about denominations don't mind me#whichever church I'm attending I know it's better than my very bleak new age era so it's not worth getting too upset over I suppose#what do you do when the UCC is too reformed and not litergical enough but catholics don't like gays or ordain women and episcopalians#make me angry because they like to ignore the atrocities they orchestrated in the southern united states and honestly every single#denomination has blood on their hands from various atrocities and ugh#too transgender for orthodoxy also#the eastern orthodox church in my city says that women can't wear pants that aren't obviously pants meant for women#so I can't check it out#I will keep going to my UCC church
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#happy “reformation day”#martin luther#for legal reasons this is a joke#catholic#file under caroline
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'you could just leave the jedi'
ah yes, because leaving all you've ever know with no external support network is so easy (heavy sarcasm on that one)
'the jedi weren't government agents, they were just peacekeepers uwu'
now (@padmestrilogy may want to help me out with this one) but the jedi is absolutely nothing like the UN (like. tf). carrying out the will of a government like being generals in that government's army? you're an agent of government.
anyway staunch pro jedi fans learn how to read stories within their broader societal context and between the lines and not take everything on screen or, god forbid, said by george lucas as absolute gospel, okay?
#the jedi are compeltely different to the UN#and the medieval catholic church is a terrible example if you're trying to make the jedi order seem pure#do you know how fucked up it was? ever heard of idk the crusades or the reformation? smh#pro jedi fans dni#jedi critical#star wars
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I think christians who say things like "love is love" and allowing degeneracy are simply coping with the fact that they enjoy and dont want to give up theyre sinful lives
#eastern orthodoxy#protestant reformation#christianity#jesus christ#progressive christianity#roman catholic
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Writers with a more historic Protestant perspective have generally translated the Greek word charis as "grace" and understood it to refer to the idea that there is a lack of human effort in salvation because God is the controlling factor. Proponents of the New Perspective argue that "favor" is a better translation, as the word refers normally to "doing a favor". In ancient societies there was the expectation that such favors be repaid, and this semi-formal system of favors acted like loans. Gift giving corresponded with the expectation of reciprocity. Therefore, it is argued that when Paul speaks of how God did us a "favor" by sending Jesus, he is saying that God took the initiative, but is not implying a lack of human effort in salvation, and is in fact implying that Christians have an obligation to repay the favor God has done for them. [...] "charis" as "favor" [does] not teach that Christians earn their way to heaven outside of the death of Christ. Forgiveness of sins through the blood of Christ is still necessary to salvation. But, that forgiveness demands effort on the part of the individual (cf. Paul in Phil. 3:12–16).
#christianity#bible#jesus#something to meditate on#faith in jesus#bible scripture#keep the faith#faith#jesus christ#christian#catholicism#protestantism#catholic#catholic church#reformed#presbyterian#lutheran#messiah#martin luther
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Reformation Day meme dump for all your Reformation Day meme needs!
#reformation#reformation day#martin luther#christianity#christian#catholicism#catholic#meme#reformed theology
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As you all know, I was raised in one of those wack ass "non-denominational" pentecostal churches. I was always taught anyone not pentecostal/baptist/methodist or within that realm weren't actually christians. Essentially, if your group had a Name™️ like Mormons, JWs, Catholics, etc. then u were that group, not "[That Group] Christians"
#sorry it's biased towards pentecostals it's unfortunately my frame of reference#So I put pentecostal and baptist together#not those (anyone that ids as a christian of any kind [including those in this group if they feel that way])#and then ppl not christian in anyway (other faiths and the groups specified if you don't see ur group as christian)#specify in the tags if you want#also specify in the tags if you picked some but not all#cause I've heard some say catholics are but JWs and Mormons aren't#some that say JWs are but catholics and mormons arent#i've never seen anyone say mormons are but the others aren't tho for some reason#I think because of the polygamy but idk honestly#usually if mormons are considered JWs are too#and catholics always are if the other two groups are#if I start Reformation 2: Electric Boogaloo then so be it#ex christian#ex catholic#exmormon#exjw#exvangelical#religious trauma#wanna give everyone a chance to vote in this lol
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Happy Feast Day
40 Martyrs of England and Wales are a group of Catholic, lay and religious, men and women, executed between 1535 &1679 for treason & related offenses under various laws enacted by Parliament during the English Reformation.
Prints, plaques & holy cards available for purchase here: (website)
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Vachete Suomi AU. Vesuri ja Vaski asuvat suuressa kylässä jossain sisämaassa kaukana suurista kaupungeista kuten Turusta. Kirkonkylän pappi, Vesuri, yrittää parhaansa mukaan vakuuttaa kyläläisiä kasvattamaan perunaa, koska se on satoisa ja ravitseva kasvi mutta kyläläiset eivät tahdo luopua nauriista. Vaski on kartanonvoudin poika ja yrittää pitää suhteita yllä kyläläisiin, että he olisivat suostuvaisia maksamaan veroja kuninkaalle eivätkä hyökkäisi hänen isänsä kimppuun.
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Finnish Vaschete AU.
Vesuri (a type of pruning knife/billhook) and Vaski (brass/copper/bronze) live in a big village somewhere inland, far away from the country's populous cities like Turku (Finland's oldest city and former capital located in the southwestern coast). The village priest, Vesuri, is trying his best to persuade the villagers to start farming potato, a high-yielding and nourishing crop, but people are reluctant to give up their turnips (one of Finland's most important staple foods up until 1800's when potato finally took over). Vaski is the son of a local lord of the manor (or maybe you'd call it bailiff? Or even jarl?) and is doing his best to get along with the villagers so that they would continue paying their taxes to the king and wouldn't turn against his dad.
#I'm not sure how you'd translate kartanonvouti#an official who governs a piece of land and is responsible for collecting taxes for the king you know the deal#I would've called Machete kassara which is a synonym for vesuri#but then you could call him “käsikassara” which is a derogatory term for a person who does someone else's dirty work#and that's what he does and why he's called Machete#I don't know if you're aware anon but Vasco was named that because his colors reminded me of vaski#anonymous#answered#Vaschete scenarios#Finland was converted from catholicism to protestantism in early 1600's and potatoes were first introduced here around 100 years later#so in this case he's either catholic and a true potato trailblazer ahead of his time#or this takes place after the reformation and he's lutheran but potatoes are slowly being adopted it's the villagers who are anti-potato#I don't know what I'm talking about
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Something in 40k which I find interesting, very funny, and also both realistic but a really weird worlbuilding choice for a setting that is meant to be at least somewhat satirical is that the Imperial Cult of the Imperium of Man is in many ways more tolerant of heterodoxy than the real world Catholic Church
#40k#warhammer 40k#imperial cult#imperial creed#ecclesiarchy#this is mainly only on paper#but you also see it in practice#the only non-negotiable requirements to be in line with the imperial creed are following three basic rules#monotheistic emperor worship#human supremacism#and obedience to the state#other than that what you can and cannot get away with largely depends on what mood your local religious leader is in#missionaries generally find it easier to just syncretise the god emperor and is saints with local gods#and dissuade traditons like cannibalism by replacing them with things like ritual consumption of totemic animals#meanwhile irl the catholic church loses their shit over folk saints#of course 40k priests can and will declare something heresy if they think its convenient#also another funny thing is that sebastian thor in many ways did something that martin luthor failed to#reform the church without triggering a schism
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"Given the marathon that Jane’s uterus had just been through, it’s likely that her uterus would have a reduced capacity to contract and effectively expel the after-birth contents of her uterus; lengthy labours tend to shred the membranes, especially if, like Jane, her membranes had ruptured early in her labour. I believe that here is where the best intentions again contributed to disastrous consequences. Wanting to ensure the best possible outcome, Henry bucked confinement tradition by inviting male physicians into Jane’s lying-in chamber. While we might see a physician’s help as a good thing, please keep in mind that Tudor era physicians weren’t trained in obstetrics. Had Jane’s immediate postpartum been similar to the above description, a physician would likely not have been well-versed in how to manage it. Had the midwives noticed retained tissue, they probably would have known to remove the offending product, manually if necessary, causing Jane further discomfort. To a Tudor physician, this would have been appalling, and protocol dictated that the physicians had seniority. Had they forbade an intervention, it would not have occurred."
— Dayna Goodchild, Jane Seymour and the Birth of Edward VI: A Midwife's Opinion
#jane seymour#mm ... there's literature about the english reformation's impact on midwifery/matrons#that and jane's status as queen - which goodchild notes as a factor that impacted the treatment she received#it's like clarissa atkinson's point that male authorities ''began to compete with women in traditional female work''#i read one article (icr which now!) which talked about the changing theological discourses around the liturgy for baptism#you definitely see evidence of distrust of midwives/cunning women (previously integrated into the event of childbirth) in communities#and iirc there was increasing distrust of midwives performing baptisms#but at the point of jane's pregnancy i think mary fissell has the right of it:#that england's progression from catholicism to quasi-protestantism ''was accomplished through the reform of women's bodies''#and while i don't think it's the most reliable i liked amy licence's point:#''the story of childbirth during the mid tudor reformation is as much the story of the dissolution of the shrines -#- and the banning of catholic practices and folklore that had formed centuries of female wisdom''
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Most woke guy in 16th century Europe: Guys, people can be any type of Christian they want.
#16th century#europe#chrsitianity#catholiscism#catholic#history#history memes#history humour#Martin Luther#protestant reformation#protestant#ap euro#I hate this fucking class
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