#Catelyn Tully
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#asoiaf#asoiaf art#a song of ice and fire#catelyn stark#catelyn tully#sansa stark#rickon stark#bran stark#arya stark#robb stark#stark family
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I never thought I’d say this, but the robb stark / iphigenia / jesus parallels go CRAZY
Like, im not smart enough (and english being a second language doesnt help) to explain in a way 100% satisfactory, but cmon, the basic stuff is here: Crown that simbolizes the inhuman weight/responsability they carry and their doom, a close friend/follower that betrays them, their mother seeing their victories and figure as an outsider BUT, still they know their kids are doomed since the beginning, their life and actions turning into a myth/supernatural stuff pre and post thei death, a lover/romantic relationship """that shouldnt exist""", ROBB EVEN HAS A CRUXIFICATION (robbwind) where he is mocked by his enemies.
the main difference in asoiaf, is that the one who is ressurected is the mother
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You can’t win as a woman in fiction. Be too positive, you become a Mary Sue, have flaws and those flaws are why almost nobody likes you. Be moderate, you have wet-cabbage personality, be exuberant, you are an unrealistic example. Have strong morals, and you’re badly developed, be morally corrupt and you’re hated with such vigour fans will send hate mail to the actress who plays the character. Be kind and soft and in love, you’re a representation of sexism, be cruel, harsh and cold and you’re just a bitch. Be a complex, realistic, ambiguous character, and either your flaws or your positive traits will be ignored or blown out of proportion and into oblivion. There is no winning for female characters.
#women in fiction#alicent hightower#rhaenyra targaryen#daenerys targaryen#sansa stark#arya stark#catelyn tully#padme amidala#assaj ventress#ahsoka tano#leia organa#leia skywalker#princess leia#polly gray#ada shelby#katniss everdeen#elizabeth bennet#elena gilbert#women#female characters#women in film
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talked about this briefly before, but i don't think catelyn could openly hate or dislike ned in his decisions regarding jon and therefore she resented jon openly instead. the most important part to understand in this situation is that catelyn is always going to be a woman in a society who does not treat women kindly. ultimately, women belonged to their husbands so they didn't have complete independence regarding their life. however, the text reveals that catelyn did try to get jon away and it didn’t work. i think after that she realised that nothing will change his mind about jon so she gave up, if that makes sense.
“for nothing Catelyn said would persuade him to send the boy away. It was the one thing she could never forgive him. She had come to love her husband with all her heart, but she had never found it in her to love Jon."
AGOT Catelyn II but i think that the line, “it was the one thing she could never forgive him” is extremely important because she still hasn't forgiven him for it but still loves him and is warm to him. because in the end, she can never escape a loveless marriage the same way a man can. she can not find another lover without putting herself at risk or her children (almost all look like her so). ned has the ability to still live his life to the fullest without catelyn as a lover. and directing anger towards a husband can be very dangerous, obviously ned is not violent but say for example robert who hit cersei for defying him is. even if ned wouldn’t outright do anything towards catelyn for not loving him, her life would still be worse. she would be in a strange place she does not really like without any support except from her children. it's easier for her to dislike jon than to make her relationship with ned strained, because as a woman she loses more from that.
#i love catelyn#people have a very black and white view on her#i think womanhood in asoiaf is very complex and is very central to every woman and their decisions#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#catelyn tully#catelyn stark#ned stark#jon snow#valyrianscrolls
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"he was never unfaithful to robert, was he?" - jaime, acok
ha. ha ha ha. the irony of this line is incredible. what's so striking to me is how one dimensional the realm's understanding of eddard stark as an honourable man is - honour itself is an incredibly complicated and unattainable ideal in asoiaf and i think ned as the stereotypical emblem of it encompasses many of the reasons why. because whilst he absolutely does consider acting in a conventionally honourable way important, he always prioritises those he loves. he defended cat's actions as his own without a second thought when she arrested tyrion. his main priority in king's landing is to see his daughters safe, not to secure the succession. lyanna is the prime example: jon's existence is not the result of the lapse of honourable ned stark, it was honourable ned stark choosing his love for his sister over his duty to his king. that and his personal ethical belief that the political murder of a child is never morally acceptable.
no one in the realm has the insight into his personality we get in the first book. none of his children, vitally, understand that he would always prioritise their safety over any honourable scruples. all of the starklings question what their honourable father would think of their actions - killing in self-defence, marrying jeyne westerling, sleeping with ygritte to name a few examples - without recognising that ned's true first priority was always his family's safety.
in fact, he betrayed robert far more than he ever betrayed cat and he would have betrayed honour for his family's safety every time.
#eddard stark#ned stark#i count dany and ned's resistance to her assassination as a betrayal as well btw#because not only was this a moment in which her killing could be contrived as honourable and ned said no thanks acc#but he was absolutely projecting his love for jon onto her#he could not stand by if it was his innocent son/nephew#asoiaf#a song of ice and feels#jon snow#arya stark#house stark#asoiaf meta#catelyn stark#robb stark#catelyn tully#jaime lannister#acok#robert baratheon#i could write a whole post on honour in got alone#and one day i probably will#jon is particularly afflicted with oh god what would my dad say#bestie if you have to sleep with ygritte and play turncloak to survive HE WOULD WANT YOU TO SURVIVE#he didn't make that promise to fold over some thousand year old irrelevant vow
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i like how the prior generation in asoiaf is just considered the era of baddies w how many ppl r described as beautiful or is mad thirsted for even in game of thrones and beyond. anyone from cersei catelyn lyanna elia and ashara to goddamn rhaegar jaime robert and brandon,,, if only there was ao3 in asoiaf bc i know the self insert fics wouldve gone crazy
#asoiaf#joncon and cersei would both be on it btw. filling the whole rhaegar tag. theyre mutuals too#jaime would also be on it except its him scouring for cers and past kingsguard(and arthur's) fics like a vulture. doesnt write his own tho#barristan wouldnt have an acc bc its too embarrassing but hed be looking through the ashara tag as a guest#chaos reads#a song of ice and fire#valyrianscrolls#im not tagging all that now tho...#cersei lannister#catelyn tully#catelyn stark#rhaegar targaryen#jaime lannister#ashara dayne
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Catelyn describing the southern rain:
"...soft and warm. Catelyn liked the feel of it on her face, gentle as a mother's kisses. It took her back to her childhood, to long grey days at Riverrun."
Ned describing the southern rain:
"It beat down on Ned's head, warm as blood and relentless as old guilts."
Ned really does not miss the chance to describe how much he fucking hates everything about this place, does he?
#what do you mean the water has no ice in it?#unnatural#Ned my guy go home#you are getting traumatized by the rain#ned stark#catelyn tully stark#catelyn tully#valyrianscrolls#asoiaf#my reread bs
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Tysm for the support on the last post !!
Here’s a thing I made of what I imagined House Stark looked like when I was still reading the first book !
#guess who my fav was#spoiler it was NOT jon (yet)#the starks will always have my heart theyre so#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#ned stark#catelyn stark#?#or#catelyn tully#sansa stark#robb stark#arya stark#jon snow#bran stark#rickon stark#and shaggydog#game of thrones
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Familiar, but not quite right
Cat & Lady Stoneheart
#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#game of thrones#catelyn stark#sansa stark#catelyn tully#lady stoneheart#asoif fanart#asoif/got
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lord please bring my family back together
#ned stark#catelyn stark#sansa stark#robb stark#jon snow#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#valyrianscrolls#eddard stark#catelyn tully#nedcat#finger paints
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A selection of women of A Song of Ice and Fire (part 1 - part 2)
#asoiafedit#valyrianscrolls#literatureedit#bookedit#fantasyedit#asha greyjoy#catelyn tully#catelyn stark#olenna redwyne#olenna tyrell#arianne martell#barbrey ryswell#barbrey dustin#cersei lannister#selyse baratheon#selyse florent#lysa tully#lysa arryn#asoiaf#ours*
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i love the way sansa is so proud to be catelyn's daughter. in a world where women are expected to assimilate to their husbands' world once they get married, there's sansa adopting her mother's gods into her creed, taking pride in having her mother's looks, often choosing to wear the colors of her mother's house and, most importantly, drawing strength from her mother's memory. what's so great about this is that it's not an act of spite against her father. she's just proud of being both stark and tully. it's like arya said: the woman is important too.
#even better that arya said this in response to jon criticizing cersei for having her family's flag at level with the baratheon flag..#post written a while back in response to senseless discourse i saw where ppl were fighting to see which stark sister resembled ned more#this really annoyed me bcuz they were full on erasing cat and lowkey acting like it was an insult to their fav girlie to be compared to her#and a lot of these people keep posting abt how much they love cat and giving themselves a feminist pat on the back for ''defending'' her..#sansa stark#catelyn tully#asoiaf
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Jon and Cat every time they thought of Theon


#the only thing jon and cat bonded over anything#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf#house stark#catelyn stark#catelyn tully#jon snow#theon greyjoy#ik theon would stare at them like that
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Catelyn heard someone snigger behind her. She loves him, poor thing, she thought sadly. She'd play his squire just to touch him, and never care how great a fool they think her... (and some other things)
#brienne of tarth#renly baratheon#catelyn stark#catelyn tully#stannis baratheon#davos seaworth#theon greyjoy#asha greyjoy#asoiaf#acok#a clash of kings#this fucking quote hit me like a truck right in my balls I genuinely start tearing up whenever i look at it its wild#im not even sure why it hit me so hard??? its just kinda me fr#anyway renly looks like loki sorry it wasnt intended#and ofc i had to include the greyjoy siblings too#🧩
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when its time to cry over house tully again and edmure's kindness and care for his people and brynden's loyalty to a seemingly dead cause and hoster's grief and regret over lysa's marriage by his last days and catelyn's love for her family which ran so deep that she now haunts the riverlands as a punishment for those who wronged them
#literally the family of all times i love them all so deeply u dont UNDERSTAND the tears i shed for them#house tully#asoiaf#chaos reads#catelyn tully#catelyn stark#catelyn tully stark#i cried for hoster and i cried for edmure and u bet ur fucking ass i cried for catelyn too#lannisters 🤝starks🤝tullies#best characters in these entire fucking novels#idc abt targaryens or martells or some punks at the wall#give me a show abt THEM.#hoster tully#lysa arryn#lysa tully#edmure tully#brynden tully#grrm#a song of ice and fire#game of thrones
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ROBB STARK and JACAERYS VELARYON + parallels
#mama's boys til the end :(#house of the dragon#hotdedit#jacaerys velaryon#rhaenyra targaryen#game of thrones#gotedit#robb stark#catelyn stark#catelyn tully#gameofthronesdaily#tusererika#userhann#useralicia#mine
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