#Caranthir and Haleth

[asinoeiv]

Your father and twin brother just died, and you were made chieftain of the Haladin, and now the weird elf lord in whose lands your people live is making what he thinks are f-me eyes at you.

[irithyllians]

haleth and caranthir’s height difference is insane, I know it

[honore-art]

pretty Caranthir with a star earing

[corsairspade]

Halenthir but none of the Finweans believe Haleth is real because they all assume Caranthir made up a spouse so he could leverage his marriage status for tax concessions. Caranthir is extremely mad about this. Haleth thinks it’s hilarious.

[aquaregiaart]

Haleth & Caranthir.

[thestaroffeanor]

Haleth, Chieftain of the Haladin

[astral-aromance]

I am now officially subscribed to the Erestor son of Caranthir and Haleth theory

[lidoshka]

Dinner time

AU in which Caranthir and Haleth have a kid.

It's fine, its fine. As long as the child is kept out of any offical record the Doom of Mandos cannot touch him, right?

[hamletphase]

might work on this again someday but for now let's call it done 🫶

[soluda]

[the-elusive-soleil]

My new favorite Halenthir idea:

Haleth does battle, meets Caranthir, feels some feelings, heads west per canon and eventually reaches Brethil...and becomes acquainted with Finrod Nom Felagund as he tries to talk his kinsman into letting the Haladin settle in the area.

At some point, Haleth and Finrod are talking and he compliments her on her mastery of elvish languages, and she's like "oh yeah, the lord of Thargelion and his people taught us". (Note: this is not the AU where Caranthir only teaches them Quenya.) And Finrod's like, "hey, that's my annoying grumpy cousin!"

And they chat about Caranthir a bit, because Haleth also thinks Caranthir is annoying and grumpy and is willing to joke back and forth with Finrod on the subject, but she's not willing to go along with it once she feels that Caranthir is being insulted/mocked. And somewhere along the line Finrod clocks that "oh, there's something going on here".

Which is confirmed when, at one point, she mentions that Caranthir wanted her to stay and as good as proposed marriage.

She's about to reel off her usual list of rationalizations for why she couldn't possibly have, but Finrod gets there first with "oh, but of course it was for the best in the end that you left him, elves and Men are just too [dramatic gesture] metaphysically different to ever be together, it's always destined to end in tragedy", and basically tries to Athrabeth her.

Except that Haleth doesn't particularly care to be Athrabethed. Like, yes, she made the choice to do what needed to be done for her people instead of what she maybekindasorta wanted, but that was her choice. She's not really into this smarmy know-it-all elf patiently explaining to her like she's a child that she can't have Caranthir because ~*Fate*~ said so.

And, well, her people have a safe home now. Her sister-in-law will make a good enough peacetime leader until her nephew is grown up.

So she gathers the Haladin, explains what she's going to do. Most of them, naturally, opt to stay in Brethil, but a few adventurous or Thingol-averse sorts join her on the trip she ends up making back to Thargelion.

Where she marches up to Caranthir and essentially says, "I'm going to marry you to spite your irritating blond cousin."

Which is the best reason Caranthir has ever heard of for doing anything.

(They're married for like seventy years and ridiculously happy and in this one, Caranthir's brothers find out fairly early on because he won't stop sending smug letters to Finrod every year with updates on his marriage to his amazing adaneth wife and sketched peredhel baby pictures and so forth.)

[writerrose1998]

Caranthir: I don’t think we can mansplain, manipulate, or malewife our way out of it this time. Haleth, cracking her knuckles: Manslaughter it is.

[thesummerestsolstice]

Assorted thoughts on the Silm AU where all the elves are hobbits:

Eol isn't a bad dude here he's just a hobbit who was raised by men and is therefore very unaccustomed to Hobbit social norms. He takes Aredhel on their honeymoon and everyone think he's kidnapped her. Aredhel loves the trip though, even when Celegorm interrupts it to try and "rescue" her.

Gondolin is a neighborhood that hosts really awesome exclusive parties that very few people get invited too and no one can ever find. Turgon runs all the parties but no one's ever been able to get any information out of him about it.

Maeglin did once get kidnapped by Morgoth and blackmailed for party location information. He showed up and it was the most awkward night anyone there had ever experienced. He didn't even steal anything he just loomed over everyone and made insensitive comments about how short they were. No one blamed Maeglin of course, and he was fine afterwards. Turgon called Morgoth several mildly rude things at the party though so you know he was at the absolute end of his rope.

Caranthir is an aspiring textile merchant who often does trade outside of the Shire. During one of his trips, he meets a dwarfish warrior named Haleth and they end up getting married.

One day two very lost, sad dwarves named Tuor and Turin show up in the Shire and become the absolute talk of the town, especially when Idril (who has completely refused the many gentlehobbits who tried to court her) almost immediately runs off and marries him (say it with me, good for her!) Soon afterwards they have adorable little dwobbit Earendil.

Said Earendil, as a young adult, takes a perilous boat journey up the river to seek the elvish king, Manwe, to tell him that Morgoth is being a huge dick. Manwe is confused about this, because Morgoth was released from elf-jail with a guard who was supposed to stop him from doing anymore crimes. (He got imprisoned first because of an incident involving public drunkenness and tree-related vandalism)

The guard was Sauron. He did not, in fact, stop Morgoth from committing more crimes.

So Manwe and the other elvish nobles (the Valar in the original Silm) go down to the Shire, apprehend Morgoth, and return the stuff he stole.

As an apology for letting Morgoth cause so much chaos down there, Manwe leaves one of his finest warriors to guard the Shire. And that is how Eonwe ends up becoming the first elf ever to be deemed a hobbit-friend.

[ayaosguqin]

Caranthir & Haleth

“You have bewitched me body and soul, and I love, I love, I love you. ”

― Pride & Prejudice

A Link to my Ko-Fi🙏

[corsairspade]

there are many reasons I like the "Erestor son of Caranthir" headcanon but secretly the main one is that I'm imagining all of the remaining noldo auditors sighing of relief when Caranthir dies and they don't have to try play 4d chess with multiverse time travel trying to catch this guy doing tax evasion. life is good for exilic auditors now.

and then suddenly Elrond and Elros turn up again! even better! oh who's this, Elrond? your good friend Erestor? he's helping you with your taxes? oh how swe- what is this Elrond. What is this. your paperwork for your taxes you say. not a declaration of war? because it looks like a declaration of war on the exilic auditors, Elrond.

and then all the auditors are so busy doing "extreme tax auditing™" for the first time since the second Kinslaying that they don't tell anyone they're pretty sure there's another scion of the house of Fëanor running around.

[theoppositeofprofound]

Briefly enraptured by an AU where the only thing needed for elven marriage is eye contact. That’s it, just eye contact between two people who mutually, absolutely want to get married. Melian and Thingol really were gone from first sight. Finwë and Indis’ remarriage was an issue because it’s a small continent and there’s a decent chance they’d accidentally elope. Aredhel and Eöl, who didn’t have any half measure in them, got screwed over by the cosmic happenstance of thinking “would” simultaneously. Elrond and Celebrían on their third meeting, both a tiny bit precognizant, already predisposed to know their fate, catching each other’s eyes over a dinner table and agreeing to let fate win. Lúthien looking Celegorm in the face as defiance—he can see her all he wants but she’s already realized his worth. Andreth, whose people had dealings with elves, staring into Aegnor’s eyes and begging him to flinch.

Of course this quickly devolved into thoughts of elven chastity veils, and blindfolds, and mirrored sunglasses, and stupid little horse blinders. The eyes of the Eldar in battle are notable because otherwise they have these weird googles on the rest of the time. The debate about whether widows and divorcees need to take precautionary measures, now that they’ve invented widowhood and divorce. The social mores. The controversy. The songs. The eye contact averse humans who think that it rocks that elves won’t look at them. I cannot stress this enough, the very ridiculous, frankly counterproductive little glasses.