#Caliginous crush

[technorganictierboskat]

You don't understand how much I want them to hate Me. That one bitch who just riles Me up so fucking much, I just hate them so desperately and want them to return the Feelings. I think about spending so much Time with them, and the little Moments we had, like when they held my Hand to help me skate, or When we had a Shouting Match at a sleepover right before we sat right next to eachother. The Intoxicating Aggravation has pooled around me. They say it's fun to piss Me off, and by the Gods do I love that Fact

[lem-argentum]

*SIGHZ LOUDLY* fine he can have a tag

[explaining-homestuck]

can you please explain quadrents (specifically moirailegince? i see alot of people dont seem to get it and id love to have a post to link back to when i explain it instead of having to go through homestuck)

Ah, tackling the big one first.

Homestuck itself has its own explanation of quadrants, which starts on Page 2392. However, I'll take a stab at simplifying the explanation here, although I may take direct quotes from the comic.

Humans have only one form of romance. And though we consider it a complicated subject, [...] it is ultimately a superficial slice of what trolls consider the full body of romantic experience. Our concept of romance [...] is still just [...] a single, linear concept.

(I guess I will be taking direct quotes from the comics.)

This concept of human love is generally represented with the symbol <3, or ❤️. However, trolls, in keeping with the Midnight Crew's full set of playing card theming, have four different types of romance, to fit the four suits.

<3/♥️, Hearts; <3</♠️, Spades; c3</♣️, Clubs; and <>/♦️, Diamonds.

This creates 4 Quadrants of romance, a term that is often used to refer to love and romantic entanglement.

Here, Nepeta's helpful diagram shows how these quadrants are related.

Hearts, the Flushed Quadrant, and Diamonds, the Pale Quadrant, are grouped as "Red Romance". These are the quadrants more associated with what we would possibly call positive feelings.

Meanwhile, Spades the Caliginous Quadrant (often called "Pitch"), and Clubs, the Ashen quadrant, are grouped as "Black Romance", more associated with negative feelings (to a degree, the divide isn't as simple as that.)

Furthermore, Hearts and Spades are Concupiscent Quadrants, and Diamonds and Clubs are Conciliatory Quadrants. These terms relate to the purpose of these quadrants within troll society: Concupiscent (which has meanings of sexual desire) Quadrants are related directly to the reproductive cycle of the troll species. Meanwhile, Conciliatory (meaning to placate of pacify) Quadrants, quote:

"would be more closely likened to platonic relationships by human standards"

Note: this does not make them necessarily platonic relationships in troll society. Pale and Ashen relationships remain romantic, and there may possibly also be sexual elements (not that these are shown or implied in the comic, nor will they be theorised upon here).

The comic makes it clear that while many parallels can be drawn between troll romance and certain human relationships (for example, "frenemies" or "QPRs"), these relationships are different from troll ones, as trolls are driven by primal forces to engage in their 4 types of romance, in the same way we do with our one (This is, of course, a gross oversimplification of the vast spectrum of the human experience of attraction and possible lack thereof, but it's a fair rough analogy.)

Let us now move on to the first and easiest to understand quadrant:

♥️: The Flushed Quadrant

The Flushed Quadrant is (almost) exactly the same as human romantic and/or sexual attraction. For our purposes, ♥️=❤️.

While the trolls have no concept of marriage, and don't generally use the terms boyfriend/girlfriend, the term for a partner in the Flushed Quadrant is a Matesprit, meaning the two trolls have formed a Matespritship.

The given example within Homestuck canon at the time of a Matespritship was Dad Egbert and Mom Lalonde. Several other well known examples are Rose Lalonde and Kanaya Maryam, Latula Pyrope and Mituna Captor, and Jade Harley and Davesprite (during the Yellow Yard trip, before John's 15th birthday). Many others exist, as well as flushed crushes (Kanaya Maryam for Vriska Serket, Nepeta Leijon for Karkat Vantas, etc.)

Note: Humans can take part in Quadrant relationships outside of the Flushed Quadrant, though some trolls thought this impossible.

Next, we explain

♠️: The Pitch (Caliginous) Quadrant

The simplest explanation of Pitch is always "romance, but with hate instead of love". People often find that hard to understand, but it's a trope that appears throughout media. One of the best examples I've found is LEGO Batman and LEGO Joker in the LEGO Batman Movie.

However, it's much more than simply "hate love". A Kisemesistude is more akin to a fierce arch-rivalry, with a troll competing against their Kismesis to outfox, outsmart, or simply defeat them.

The given example for a Kismesistude is Jack Noir and the Black Queen. Another example is Vriska Serket and Eridan Ampora's black romance, which fell apart before they started the game, Marquise Spinerette Mindfang and Orphaner Dualscar's Kismesistude, which they were mimicking, or Terezi Pyrope and Gamzee Makara's relationship in the pre-retcon timeline.

Note: no successful Kismesistudes exist within the main body of Homestuck: Vriska broke things off with Eridan and likewise Mindfang with Dualscar, and Gamzee was physically and mentally abusing Terezi. All canon kismesistudes have either not budded, or ended with one of the two Kismesis dumping the other, or attempting to kill them. (John and Terezi doesn't count in this case, as its continuation only exists in the Epilogues, a dubiously canon source.) This does not, however, mean all Kismesistudes are doomed to fail.

There are also numerous Pitch crushes, such as Eridan Ampora on Rose Lalonde, Gamzee Makara on Dave Strider (or possibly the Insane Clown Posse, it's unclear) and the aforementioned John Egbert for Terezi Pyrope and vice versa.

Now, it wouldn't be a Homestuck post without an Intermission (possibly the first of several!)

🪣: The Bucket Intermission

I'll keep this short.

Flushed and Pitch pairings can, through undescribed processes, produce a combination of genetic material, which is then collected in a Filial Pail (bucket) by Imperial Drones to be fed to the Mother Grub, who then makes all the baby trolls from the gametes, probably.

Hussie also wrote a short paragraph about dominant and recessive genes which makes me think they know less about dominant and recessive genes than the writers of Metal Gear Solid, but that's not that important right now.

If a troll is unable to provide suitable generic materials, they will be culled by the drone, meaning finding concupiscent quadrantmates is a key goal for a troll's survival.

Anyway, back to romance, with

♣️: The Ashen Quadrant

The clubs symbol notably has 3 circles, which relates to the way this relationship (the most misunderstood one, in my experience) works.

Clubs relationships, or Auspisticisms, are formed when a third troll sees a pair involved in a feud, and decides to step in to mediate, becoming their Auspistice. The purpose of an Auspistice is not the mediate and grow a Pitch relationship, as it's often portrayed, but in fact prevent it from developing.

This is because trolls often feud with each other, causing possible Kismesistudes, but (conventionally) troll romance is monogamous in-quadrant, and having two or more Kismesis would be considered infidelity in conventional troll society, as well as that too many Kismesistudes can increase danger in troll society, and mis-matched rivalries can cause trolls to be stuck in relationships they do not like.

An Auspisticism is often defined by the attraction specifically of the Auspistice *toward* the rival pair, and their wish to mediate them. This is known as an Ashen Crush, much like above Pitch and Flushed Crushes.

Examples of known Auspisticisms within canon Homestuck are Kanaya Maryam between Vriska Serket and Tavros Nitram, Doc Scratch between Spades Slick and Snowman (though Scratch's intervention was more driven by accomplishing his own goal of having Slick kill Snowman), and Jade Harley between Bec Noir and the Peregrine Mendicant in [S] Collide, though this ended in failure.

Next, let's move onto

♥️🔁♠️: Quadrant Vacillation

Another known occurrence within troll society and its romantic framework is the Vacillation of two trolls between multiple quadrants. While canon only gives examples of Flushed/Pitch Vacillation, it's stated that this is but the most common type of Vacillation.

This occurs because troll relationships are incredibly malleable. To quote from the comic again:

In many cases, one party will have red feelings while the other has black. But it will often be the case that one party's feelings will swap to match the other's, since there is no quadrant which naturally accommodates such a disparity. But thereafter, it's not uncommon for the two to toggle between red and black in unison now and then. These scenarios naturally result in both red and black infidelities.

This is stated to be a key reason for the existence of the Ashen and Pale quadrants, to prevent such infidelities. Auspistices are intended to be able to stabilise these turbulent relationships, but failure to uphold this role can lead to more instability and chaos within the mixed relationship.

Equius Zahhak and Aradiabot are shown as the key example of Vacillation, caused by Aradia's distain of the former for his rudeness and the fact he planted a chip inside her robot body that would make her love him, and Equius's attraction to the latter paired with his somewhat fetishisation of the caste system (a story for another time). Vriska Serket and Tavros Nitram's relationship is also mentioned, with Vriska's continued mimicking of Mindfang pushing her to meld Tavros into a fitting Matesprit, while at the same time expressing distain for his unwillingness to broach a relationship, and his wimpish behaviour. This is also further complicated by Tavros genuinely being attracted to Vriska, but too scared of her to commit to a relationship, and their Auspistice Kanaya Maryam's flushed crush on Vriska also, leading to her slacking her duties so to speak.

And now, we move onto the final quadrant, the specifically requested one:

♦️: The Pale Quadrant

Pale relationships are called a Moirallegiance, in which two trolls are Moirails. This quadrant can be liked to soulmates, but with a more platonic (yet still romantic) lean.

Moirails, also called Palemates, exist with the purpose to calm down and pacify their Pale partner. Trolls are (said to be) inherently an angry, violent species, with some being dangerous to themselves or society if left alone. Pale attraction exists for a troll of such tendencies to find a partner who can pacify them (positively), and for even-tempered trolls to seek out those who would benefit from their assistance.

A perfect Moirallegiance is said to consist of two trolls who mutually pacify and assist each other, whose emotional profiles fit together well, helping them to form other relationships in different quadrants with ease.

Moirallegiance is often confused by trolls for platonic friendship, and vice versa, and furthermore, Flushed attraction may be confused for Pale. The Flushed quadrant is said to be "more red" than the Pale one by Eridan Ampora, and likewise the Pitch quadrant "blacker" than the Ashen one, as one might expect from their describing colours.

The most well known Moirallegiance in Homestuck would of course be Meowrails, Nepeta Leijon and Equius Zahhak. Others include the Draconian Dignitary and Bec Noir, Karkat Vantas and Gamzee Makara, and Feferi Peixes and Eridan Ampora (although Eridan held a Flushed crush for Feferi, similar to the one Kanaya held for Vriska during her Moirallegiance with her).

Finally, the an important thing that Moirail can do for their partner, in cases of both dire need of calming down, and a lighter gesture of aid, is the Shoosh Pap, performed by Karkat Vantas to Gamzee Makara to calm him down from his murderous rampage at the end of Act 5 Act 2. Karkat says:

IT'S JUST A TROLL THING, HUMANS WOULDN'T GET IT. 

You would think this is everything, and it almost is, but Hussie's explanation forgoes one particular part of troll romance that is only later elaborated on by Karkat:

♥️♠️♥️♠️: Group Vacillation

Um.

You see.

Do you get it?

I think the diagram is clear enough.

Ok, we're done here.

Edit: it is worth noting that this system of quadrants is actually quite limited, both in terms of actual occurrences in the comic, and how it is often portrayed in fanfiction and fanworks, as (due to its time of writing) does not take into account polyamory in the same quadrant.

Edit 2: Redrom also has nothing canonically related to "pity". Saying "I pity you" to a Moirail or Matesprit in place of "I love you" is not a normal thing for trolls; it's based in a model that exclusively Karkat Vantas came up with and talks about, because of his repressed emotional state; he believes there can only be two emotions, hate and pity, and all other emotions are derived from the two. It's not an accurate representation of the workings of troll romance, only a reflection of his state within the comic.

If you want to know *all* about *all* canon examples of *all* four quadrants, or explanation of the other species's versions of romance, those will have to come at a later date. I could also probably make diagrams. But that will have to do for now, I'm afraid. If you find any inaccuracies that aren't about the spelling of Moirallegiance, (trust me, even the comic doesn't know how to spell it), please let me know! I can also probably answer any questions or clarifications in any reblogs, asks, or replies, but they won't necessarily be this extensive.

(Oh and also if anyone wants me to explain that one gif from the section, I can do that too. You know the one.)

[caligvlasaqvarivm]

love all your thoughts on eridan so much!! ive had erikar as a passive concept in my head since i started slowly rereading homestuck, bit i never invested as much thought into it...it makes a LOT of sense.

very curious on your thoughts on eridan and nepeta, if you have any? i dont really see much around of the two of them and how they may act around each other (most likely because, iirc, they have basically no substantial interaction in the comic....) but its a concept ive twisted around in my head a little.

Hahah, one of my friends is a Nepeta roleplayer, so we have hashed this OUT. Basically, I think if they talked a bit more, under the right circumstances, they might try pitch for a bit, but resolve to normal friendship. TL;DR, at the end of the day, they just don't really have anything to particularly hate about each other, or to particularly love, but I think they'd make for really good friends actually, if Eridan gets his shit together and Nepeta comes out of her shell a little more. She might wind up having to play auspice for him because... he has a lot of problems... and as a Heart player, with more proximity to him, she'd realize "oh, wait, he's not that bad, hes just mentally fucking ill," and there are people on the team who would not give him that kind of grace.

Flushed is pretty canonically off the table - despite having hit on her several times, Eridan seems to have accepted the rejection, and Nepeta herself comments that it always came off as "cr33py and insincere", which it probably was - he's clearly not over Feferi, and has a kind of "please god anyone would be fine I just don't want to be alone" vibe. Nepeta is definitely looking for more sincerity than that, and although Eridan's Type is very much cheerful, bubbly, nice girls (what he thinks Feferi is), I think they're pretty incompatible overall.

His antics and Emotional Issues would probably be super taxing on Nepeta long-term, he'd wind up in a million fights with protective Equius (Eridan is a crazed murderer even just objectively), and he's really not a particularly kind or pleasant person.

Meanwhile, although he's basically willing to go along with anything that'll get him attention, I think he'd be very puzzled by Nepeta's expectations that he do Romantic Things, or otherwise adhere to certain romantic tropes and social norms, which he can't do; when this inevitably leads to hurt feelings, his response to perceived danger is "fight," so he'd probably end up making it worse. So! Flushed is flushed. Down the load gaper, I mean.

Trying on pitch, I think if Nepeta was already a little bit out of her shell - say, Equius has died, or she's otherwise locked in a SGRUB dungeon with him, or something like that - she and he would come to blows over Eridan's performative casteism. Nepeta's the anti-casteism troll, after all, and if she's worked up enough, she's quite spirited and opinionated, and Eridan is down for anything, so it would be something I can absolutely see forming.

Actually, hilariously, when my friend and I RP'd this out, Nepeta wound up with a pitch crush, and Eridan wound up with a FLUSHED crush, because he was THAT BAD at differentiating between good and bad attention. Nepeta was totally floored, she was like, dude i was calling you stupid and terrible??? how the fuck did you interpret that as FLUSHED??? and eridan was like i dont know... maybe... i might have mental illness......

The problem is, I don't see their pitched dalliance lasting, for two main reasons - the first is that Eridan wouldn't hate Nepeta long-term, even if he can work up some caliginous energy because he's desperate; she's too genuinely nice and kind and he loves nice and kind people. Similarly, Nepeta wouldn't be able to hate Eridan the more she got to know him - since he's kind of the least casteist highblood, despite his initial impression, she would lose her fundamental reason for opposing him, and would instead start going "oh god, hes so traumatized, he's like that because he's really messed up inside."

The second is because I think they're dangerous for each other, physically. Eridan is a volatile highblood with severe emotional problems and a bodycount in the thousands, and Nepeta is very reckless in the face of danger; I can genuinely see them going a little too hard and Eridan getting a bit of a highblood buzz and winding up severely injuring Nepeta, which he would feel completely fucking terrible about, and then not allow himself to ACT like he feels terrible about it. Even if they stay in the relationship, it would kill his vibe, since when he isn't on an outright murder spree, he doesn't want to hurt his friends ("wwhat kind of friend wwould i be"). And that's not even factoring in how much EQUIUS would flip out over it.

I also don't think Nepeta is particularly equipped to deal with Eridan's problems, even if she does recognize and sympathize with them more than most on their team. Although she'd have more success than others, I think it'd leave her exhausted, because Eridan is exhausting. A Heart player obsessed with true feelings and sincerity and genuineness is just a bad match for the kid who's 90% façade.

So, ultimately, I think they'd resolve to really good friends, and Nepeta might wind up being a middle leaf for Eridan in an auspicetism situation, since Eridan... tends to draw aggro, and Nepeta at least would care about him enough that she doesn't want to see him get killed (even in the comic, as Nepetasprite, she expresses sadness that Eridan is dead, although she doesn't seem to know about his murders).

Eridan is also a roleplayer, lest we forget, and if Nepeta is able to draw out rare flashes of genuineness, they do have a bunch in common - she could commiscerate with him over the thrill of the hunt (although she'd have to be careful not to get too into the weeds about the, uh, Troll Murder aspect), RP with him (in a safe environment), or gossip about romance. They're both pretty painfully sincere people at their core, so while I ultimately don't see them being particularly romantically compatible, I do really love the idea of them being close friends. If only Eridan didn't always make things Fucking Weird.

And also since I really love pitch FefNep, Nepeta becoming friends with Eridan would help fuel her hate dates with Feferi - ":33 < do you even realize how messed up killing lusii fur YOU left him???" "W)(at would you )(ave preferred, t)(at my lusus went )(ungry and krilled everybody? 3X0"

[quadrantbot]

An explanation on what QUADRANT FEELINGS feel like.

Those with any sorts of quadrant crushes OR those in quadrant relationships tend to feel a few easily identifiable things. 

Any and every member in a troll romance relationship feels some form of pity. 

The base descriptions of troll romance types may lead you to believe otherwise, but it's very easily explainable if you think about a few things.

Trolls (at least in canon) really seem to have only a few "emotions." One being hate, one being pity. That being said, I think any relationship based on pure hatred doesn't exactly have the push and pull required for a short term OR a long term relationship between two trolls. What's going to pull you back to someone you hate? Something deeper than just pure hate, that's what.

But what IS pity? Let us take a look at a few dictionary definitions of pity to break it down. 

"sympathetic or kindly sorrow evoked by the suffering, distress, or misfortune of another, often leading one to give relief or aid or to show mercy"

(dictionary dot com) 

"sympathetic sorrow for one suffering, distressed, or unhappy"

(Merriam Webster)

"a feeling of sadness or sympathy for someone else's unhappiness or difficult situation"

(Cambridge Dictionary)

"a strong feeling of sadness or sympathy for someone or something"

(Britannica Dictionary)

As the basis of all troll relationships are pity, getting a few definitions is best for any description. To put it in the most concise way possible, all of these above definitions are good ways to describe exactly how troll pity feels.

2. Despite pity being the core of all romantic troll relationships, it is often utilized and felt in relatively different ways across all quadrants.

When it comes to flushed romance, (the trolls in this relationship being referred to as matesprits,) pity is often referred to as the main factor. In a way, this is accurate, but it often feels like it's ignoring the major pity aspect in other quadrants. Those who are flushed for each other often feel extreme pity (or even on occasion regular pity) for one another. Flushed relationships are relationships where the pity is very prevalent, but often is less acted on. Flushed relationships feel that pity for one another, but they don't really feel the need to act on it too much. To quote a popular phrase, a good way to describe them would lean on "misery loves company" rather than any action taking place. They feel a sort of passive pity for one another, finding comfort in just knowing that and being together rather than a more active approach. Flushed romance is one of two red quadrants, both of which are based primarily on the positive emotions of all parties. Flushed romance is one of two concupiscient quadrants, those which can often involve sexual feelings, though not always.

Pale romance is the second topic in this, acting quite differently than flushed romance. When it comes to pale partners, (referred to as moirails,) pity also plays a role, though a far more active role. A common misconception about pale romance is that it's not romance, which is false. Pale romance is romance, after all. Those in a pale relationship feel pity much like every other troll relationship, but alongside that pity is a sort of feeling of caring, understanding, and a need to pacify and help their moirail. The support level between two pale partners can vary anywhere from one side being more on the recieving end and one on the giving end to an equal sort of thing on all sides. Unlike the previous relationship discussed, they have a more active pity, showing in their comfort and placating of their moirails. Pale romance is one of two red quadrants, both of which are based primarily on the positive emotions of all parties. Pale romance is one of two conciliatory quadrants, both of which involve some degree of pacifying.

Pitch/caliginous romance, (with a partner in this relationship being referred to as a kismesis,) is a relationship built on primarily hate. It contains the same pity as every other quadrant, but the main characteristic of pitch romance is the shared mutual hate and the mutual respect of both parties. Those who feel pitch feelings for one another tend to have a handful of things they admire about the other party, but that admiration is outweighed by the hatred they have for the other's bad traits. When it comes to caliginous romance, the pity they feel comes from knowing all that their kismesis could be if they were to improve, and being upset that they aren't becoming that on their own. The pity and hatred takes an active role where each party pushes for the other to get better. There's a sort of "get better" thing that goes along with their "I'm better than you" rivalry. They typically tend to push for the other to get better while also trying to be better than each other. Pitch romance is one of two black quadrants, both of which are based primarily on the negative emotions from the majority of parties involved. Pitch romance is one of two concupiscient quadrants, those which can often involve sexual feelings, though not always.

Ashen romance, (with the middleman partner being referred to as their auspistice,) is a relationship that could exist for a few different reasons. At the very core of it, an auspistice feels pity and ashen feelings for the two trolls they're mediating between. Those feeling ashen feelings can be best described as a sort of responsibility they feel to keep the hatred between the two trolls healthy, or, in the case of preventing pitch infidelity, keeping the hatred platonic. This feeling is also considered a type of romance. An auspistice's responsibility for the two parties is something they willingly sign up for, so it's generally not as stressful as one might assume. Auspistices exist to make sure the emotions and actions between the two mediated parties stay at whatever level is best for everyone involved. Ashen is one of two black quadrants, both of which are based primarily on the negative emotions from the majority of parties involved. Ashen romance is one of two conciliatory quadrants, both of which involve some degree of pacifying.

TLDR: BOY READ MY QUADRANT POST BOY

[hsoppositezodiac]

More info about the trolls (part 8)

Kankri Vantas | Purpleblood - Prospit - Prince of Blood

Basically this clown tells the most offensive jokes you've ever seen. He also has a tendency to make people stay far away from him, yet a certain guy just doesn't seem to want to leave him be.

Like in canon, things such as his land, fetch modus, screen name, etc. are unknown. Though, his quirk stays the same.

Caliginous crush: Cronus Ampora

Godtier? No

Meulin Leijon | Violetblood - Derse - Bard of Heart

Beware: this cute looking lady may shatter your heart and betray you when you least expect. You never know. She enjoys talking and being the center of attention.

Like in canon, things such as her land, fetch modus, screen name, etc. are unknown. Though, her quirk stays the same

Ex-Matesprit: Kurloz Makara | Kismesis: Meenah Peixes | Formerly had a pale crush on Horuss Zahhak, but seeing how he wasn't interested, she let him be

Godtier? No

Porrim Maryam | Fuchsiablood - Prospit - Thief of Space

Like her Alternian version, she has a tendency to steal designs and take all the credit for it, since she's a fuschia — the highest on the spectrum — she gets away with the crime easily. She'd be the kind of person who you would tell your creative idea to, and she'd take it all to herself; she'd be the kind of girl that would jump the queue.

Like in canon, things such as her land, fetch modus, screen name, etc. are unknown. Though, her quirk stays the same, and in the land case, its presumed that it probably has frogs in the name like the other space bounds.

Matesprit: Damara Megido | Ex-Moirail: Aranea Serket | Kismesis: Latula Pyrope

Godtier? Yes

[yanderes-galore]

Yay! The request is open! :D

Could you do the request I ask you other day? The one with Meenah having pitch feeling for human or Gamzee?

I don't have much practice on writing pitch so I hope you still like it!

Yandere! Meenah Peixes feeling pitched for a Human

Pairing: Pitch/Kismesis ♠️

Possible Trigger Warnings: Gender-Neutral Darling, Human/Troll relationship, Manipulation, Entitlement, Culture shock, Black romance courting, Kissing/Biting mention, Isolation mentioned, Forced relationship.

The whole thing is certainly confusing for you.

Humans have no real counterpart for black romances like Trolls

Meenah doesn't quite understand it herself at first.

Supposedly signs of a black crush include hating someone but not really understanding why.

Meenah, for some reason, harbors a special kind of hate for you… one she can't seem to get rid of.

She doesn't get it either, it's not like you did anything.

You're just a human she met-

Despite this Meenah finds herself picking up on your traits, especially your flaws.

You're already on edge around Meenah.

Her base personality is aggressive, rude, sarcastic, and mean to generally everyone.

Her trying to pursue black romance with you just feels like her… except very condescending and probably worse.

Meenah's black feelings probably just feel like bullying to you as a human.

Or some odd attempt to start a rivalry.

It's like Meenah is trying to coax out the same reaction from you.

The point of a Kismesis is supposedly to have both parties better each other by recognizing their flaws, similar to other quadrants.

However this romance is much more volatile, even with the right pairs.

Meenah already feels a bit weird trying to teach a human such a thing.

Yet not enough to stop pursuing you.

Yeah, poor thing, you're confused and she is too.

That is until someone tells her what these feelings are coming from.

Aranea may tell Meenah she feels pitch for you, for some reason she feels she'd love this human if not for their flaws… making her pitch for them.

Meenah's confusion lessens when she has her theories confirmed, your confusion is still rather present.

Even when you have someone like Karkat try to explain the caliginous black romance quadrant, you just grow concerned.

As a human you want nothing to do with such a thing.

To you it probably sounds like some sort of alien hate mating thing and it doesn't appeal to you.

This may result in you trying to distance yourself from Meenah, which only fuels her black hate.

In fact… a lot of what you do fuels her feelings, that's the frustrating part.

If you attempt to be friends, if you try to avoid her, if you express annoyance or hate towards her…

It all feeds the obsession.

It only makes Meenah want to pursue you more, even if you don't understand how troll romance works.

If anything, she can take the hate you're festering for her as the start of black romance.

Even if you don't mean to do that….

What's worse is Meenah is an entitled troll.

She feels she deserves you and shows aggression towards others with you.

If anyone doesn't like you she'll take it as them taking her spot.

Then there's the issue that black romance can affect other relationships, which may drive her to isolate you.

In her eyes she feels she's the only one you deserve, flaws and all.

Only she can pick you apart all while kissing your face and nipping your lips until you bleed.

If this makes you hate her, then she's only winning.

Making you hate her will make her quadrant feel complete.

Meenah already knows she'll have you as her Kismesis… it's just a matter of when.

[othercat2]

molasses dark as pitch 13/?

molasses dark as pitch (45354 words) by OtherCat Chapters: 13/? Fandom: 人渣反派自救系统 - 墨香铜臭 | The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Original Luò Bīnghé/Original Shěn Qīngqiū, Original Mòběi-jūn/Original Shàng Qīnghuá, Shàng Qīnghuá & Original Shěn Qīngqiū, Shā Huálíng & Shàng Qīnghuá, Mòběi-jūn & Original Luò Bīnghé, Original Luò Bīnghé/Original Luò Bīnghé's Harem Characters: Original Shěn Qīngqiū, Original Luò Bīnghé, Original Luò Bīnghé's Harem, Original Shàng Qīnghuá, Original Mòběi-jūn Additional Tags: Quadrant Confusion, Canon-Typical Violence, Canon Divergence-Quadrants, Borked Timeline is Borked, Caliginous Romance | Kismesis, Pale Romance | Moirallegiance, OtherCat took the Fanon and Ran Away With It, Secondary pairings to be added - Freeform, I have decided Sha Hualing is bad ass in a way that I personally find bad ass, Ning Yingying shall be a cinnamon roll who will punch you, Ashen Romance | Auspistice, MoShang - Freeform, Slow Burn Summary: Someone forgot to tell the incipient Emperor of Everything about the Demonic Birds and Bees. Now Sha Hualing has to explain this to her co-wives while keeping Junshang from killing his first pitch crush. Which yes Liu Mingyan would be a bad thing!

In which Sha Hualing mediates platonically and deals with a headache (the headache is Qiu Haitang)

Qiu Haitang is in a high dudgeon over Shen Qingqiu continuing to be among the living--and having been brought into the harem. Luo Binghe asks for advice and  Sha Hualing speaks to Shen Qingqiu, filling him in on various situations.

[fefairys]

literally i’m aromantic except for pitch romance. i have had many a caliginous crush and it is distinctly a different feeling from both platonic hatred and friendship. but prototypical “human romance” is not a separate feeling i experience, i have always just seen my relationships as “you’re my favorite friend let’s kiss about it”

[wifegideonnav]

this is my current worst fear for where the ianthe/harrow/gideon ~love triangle~ will go next btw, with harrow being so mad that gideon “left her for” ianthe that gid has to auspisticize her two gross necro gfs. i fully don’t believe that would be the final way everything ends up but it could be p tense in the middle yk

(explanation for ppl who haven’t read homestuck under the readmore lol)

the screenshot above is an excerpt from a conversation between three characters: eridan, sollux, and feferi. in short: eridan had a long-term crush on feferi, but she turned him down and started dating sollux instead, pissing eridan way off. so eridan decides that if he can't have her, no one else should be able to either.

to this aim, he takes advantage of the fact that trolls can only occupy one quadrant with someone at a time. its a little convoluted (the homestuck story) but basically, he's trying to pick enough fights with sollux that feferi is forced to intervene, thereby moving them from the flushed quadrant (analogous to regular human dating) to the ashen quadrant.

the ashen quadrant, the only one to involve three people, exists to maintain a level of societal and interpersonal peace, and involves one party (the auspistice) basically acting as a mediator for a pair of feuding trolls in order to prevent them from fully going caliginous/pitch (another quadrant, aka the hatefuck one. this is the type of relationship that mercy and augustine have).

so eridan comes in and starts pitch-flirting with sollux, hence his "not interested" comment, in hopes that feferi will intervene and become their auspistice instead of being sollux's girlfriend.

[petluck]

"I can see it all around the land, I can feel it with the back of my hand.

I can hear a roaring silence of the murky caliginous.

I've heard the dark beast has said that the world is like a brittle egg.

He can crush it with only breath, and he can bring a black wave of death."

[gutsybitsies]

homestuck x pjo posting in honor of 413, demigods as trolls!!

Percy and Annabeth met each other and danced around kismessitude vs flush for years before Annabeth almost kills Rachel for looking at Percy the wrong way and they finally establish themselves as matesprits

Jason and Percy meet and are IMMEDIATELY pale for each other and have a whirlwind moirallegiance until they get to know each other more and start getting more and more competitive, until they're weirdly flipping between pale and kismessitude. one moment theyre stabbing each other the next moment they're papping each other. Problem is, Jason's already kismesis with Annabeth, and if he and Percy become any more caliginous she's going to flip out.

In comes Piper! and she gets between Jaosn and Percy and tries to be their auspistice.

but then she finds out that her matesprit Reyna used to have a red crush on Jason and Piper accidentally on purpose throws a brick at him. and now percy's the auspistice and piper and jason are backstabbing each other.

nico Suffers because he keeps trying to get percy's attention and he keeps failing. he had a huge red crush on percy until he and annabeth got together, now nico's trying his best to sabotage percy's career and set his hive on fire to get percy to notice him as a kismesis. so far it's not working.

he's in a stable matespritship with jason, but he's incredibly jealous of jason and percy's relationship weirdly flipping between caliginous, pale, and ash.

one day nico succeeds in burning down percy's hive, except when percy barges in looking murderous he's not looking to kill nico, but jason. nico successfully stops them from killing each other and he realizes that this is it, he can be the auspistice between jason and percy! but he can't give up his matrspritship with jason!

it ends with nico finding Growth and letting go of his-HAH as if a troll! demigod will make rational decisions! no it ends with a series of events that cause limbs to be lost, explosions, drones killed, a small uprising, and by the end of it percy still only refers to nico as jason's matesprit.

[77angelnumbers77]

ˏˋ°•*⁀➷ My Fic Masterpost

You Know All Too Well 1.8k, Complete, Rose Lalonde & Rose's Mom | Beta Roxy Lalonde, Sollux Captor & Rose Lalonde, Teen and Up

You are more the spot reserved in a gallery for a singular breathtaking painting to steal the spotlight and put everything else into stark contrast. Mother kept an empty seat at the table for the woman she decided that you would be from the age of six, back when your memories in this well-rendered format trace back to. Rose flirts with madness. Can be read with Everything Comes in Pieces or separately.

Tags: Dream Bubbles (Homestuck), POV Second Person, POV Rose Lalonde, Insanity, Mentions of Alcohol, Classpect Bullshit, Dissatisfaction, Shameless References to Printer Ink, Doomed timeline Rose - Freeform

Sea Legs 2.2k, Complete, Past Eridan Ampora/Vriska Serket, Eridan Ampora/Sollux Captor, Terezi Pyrope/Vriska Serket, Teen and Up

"I have a new kismesis," Eridan says conversationally. To someone else, it might've sounded casual. You? You know her enough to see that she is practically vibrating with the excitement of it.

Tags: Boats, I know nothing about boats but I do know something about ships, Sparring, Bickering, Caliginous Romance | Kismesis, Healthy?? Kismesissitude, Genderbent Eridan, Genderbent Sollux, Prompt Fill, Time Skip, Alternate Universe - No Sburb/Sgrub Sessions, POV Second Person, POV Vriska Serket, POV Eridan Ampora

Twice as Petty 1.1k, Complete, Eridan Ampora/Sollux Captor, Teen and Up

Sollux: why are you puttiing oiil iin iit Sollux: ii2n't iit two oiily Sollux: ii2n't that ju2t what you 2aiid Eridan: i havve no idea howw youre this glubbin stupid Eridan: honestly sol Eridan: its not oily so much as fuckin dry Eridan: im givvin your poor hair its oils back Eridan: your ablutions are too close together for your hair type and your 2-in-1 leavves your hair dangerously dehydrated

Tags: Silliness and Mayhem, Genderbend, fem!Sollux, fem!Eridan - Freeform, Hair, Pesterlog(s) (Homestuck)

Everything Comes In Pieces 28.5k, WIP, Eridan Ampora/Sollux Captor, Explicit

It's almost funny how much it hurts to live after the doom you spent your whole life waiting for has come to pass. Chronicles of Sollux's life after death.

Tags: Sollux Captor & Rose Lalonde, Revenge, Violence, Slow Burn, Enemies to Lovers, Dream Bubbles, Alternate Universe, Doomed timeline Rose - Freeform, Let Rose be the mess she is, Accidental Quadrant Vacillation, non-sexual choking, Suicide, Implied/Referenced Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Panic Attacks, Toxic Relationships, Past Character Death, Rose's Adventures in Psychoanalysis, Wet Dream, Dubious Consent, It will get healthier/happier I promise, POV Second Person, Bulges and Nooks (Homestuck), Sollux Captor Has Dual Bulges, Fluff, Enemies to Friends to Lovers, Strangers to Friends

It Doesn't Come Free 1.2k, Complete, Terezi Pyrope/Vriska Serket, Teen and Up

It’s familiar. The swoop of adrenaline in your digestion sac before a kill, or when you’re in danger. And every time you’re in danger, it seems, she’s beside you. Your voice of reason, your foil, the reason you push harder. The logos to your pathos. This is different. There is no danger, and the adrenaline is an underlying chemical hum, sharpening your senses and stippling your skin.

Tags: POV Vriska Serket, First Kiss, POV Second Person, Crushes, Bathing/Washing, Non-Sexual Intimacy, Bickering, Pre-Sburb/Sgrub, Before the Revenge Cycle, Terezi Pyrope Isn't Blind, Best Friends, Very Loosely Implied Murder, Vriska's A+ Compartmentalizing Skills, Fluff, Hair Brushing, Roleplay

The Barkbeast Days are Over 1.8k, Complete, Terezi Pyrope & Vriska Serket, Teen and Up

Somewhere inside her is her blood pusher, forcing teal sludge through unfurling veins and arteries, into every single clotted mass of cells, into the tips of her prongs and her strutnuggets and that big, smug thinkpan of hers. In that moment, you hate her with such clarity that it steals your breath. You can almost see it: Terezi from the inside out. The very makeup of her smallest parts. The convergence of blood and the culmination of all the sacrifice you have mustered up over the sweeps, a deeper pitch than you could ever muster for Eridan’s prissiness or Kanaya’s nagging or Tavros, bless his poor, pathetic heart. Then she sits up carefully, rights her glasses, and hoists herself up using her cane. "I know you,"

Tags: Mentions of other characters - Freeform, Suicidal Ideation, Character Study, Regret, blackrom crush, Codependency, No Romance, mild whump, Hurt No Comfort, mentions of violence and murder, excessive use of metaphor, Tension, FLARP references, Canon-Typical Violence, Canon-Typical Behavior, POV Second Person

Don't Leave 2.1k, Completed, Terezi Pyrope/Vriska Serket, Explicit

She gave you your gifts – by folly of fate, she made you into the strongest version of yourself that can exist. The price is that you can’t exist without her.

Tags: background rose lalonde/kanaya maryam, Rose Lalonde (Mentioned), Dave Strider, (mentioned), Karkat Vantas (Mentioned), Gamzee Makara (mentioned), Post-Retcon Timeline (Homestuck), Meteorstuck, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Emetophobia, POV Terezi Pyrope, Character Study, POV Second Person, Cunnilingus, Light Bondage, Manipulation, Codependency, It's not as bad as all that I promise, Terezi is head over heels for Vriska, Dream Bubbles (Homestuck), And also normal dreams, Implied/Referenced Character Death, No Beta

Everything before these is old and should be considered discontinued!

Credit to @cafekitsune for the dividers

[turquo1s]

shipping is so freaking fun

i love shipping i love dynamics i loooove characters

two characters love eachother very much and wanna live together forever #marriedlifegoals? OMNOMNOM i eat it up

two characters despise eachother very much and hate how much theyre attracted to the other??? GIMME GIMME

two characters have a very complicated and unique dynamic that no one else gets but them??? i swallow them both whole. #vore (/j)

i also rlly like failed ships. failed ships r so cool (idk if thats a term but its the words im using) when they break up?? love it!!

for example: i am a solkat enjoyer and a pepsicola (davejohn) enjoyer!! but do i want either couple to be together?? NO!!! i want them to have a harrowing breakup that destroys them both or NOT EVEN DATE AT ALL!!! mutual (or not) crushing!??! perfect!!!!

dave is in love with john for years, he loves making fun of him for his silly interests (even tho he does care rlly) but it doesnt work out, then he meets karkat!! karkat has had an on and off again thing for years with sollux (caliginous perhaps??) and when he meets dave, dave is everything sollux wasnt for him, hes stable and loves him even IF IT TAKES THEM FOREVER TO GET TOGETHER

ok enough davekat rambling whatever

I LOVE WHEN CHARACTERS JUST DONT WORK OUT

i also love platonic shipping - two characters dont need to be sexually or romantically interested in one another at all for me to ship it, like theres a tension there. its not sexual. its not romantic. but theres a tension and theyre not rlly sure what it is. OR LIKE OR LIKE WHAT AB THE RLLY TRAUMATISED CHARACTERS WHO JUST HAVE SUCH AN UNEXPLAINABLE TRAUMA BOND WITH ONE ANOTHER TO THE POINT WHERE THEYRE THE ONLY ONE THE OTHER GETS i love it. i also love when it makes them even more mentally ill because like holy shit its just so interesting to think about.

sorry ive been thinking ab shipping all day because someone blocked me over a tag i used and im autistic as fuck and this sort of thing falls under my umbrella of special interests

im praying this either a) gets to the right audience or b) just doesnt see the light of day every again bc if the rlllly anti side of shipping discourse sees this im toast fr

[coralcalypso]

🙌 🙌 (gimme 2)

Shylin Xinera:

Late Empress-Consort to Sefoni and former Prince of the absorbed Galito Empire.

Shylin was not in line for the thron due to being one of the sons of the queen as the empire operated on female primogeniture, putting his sisters ahead of him at the time. As a result, he spent less time focused on politics and affairs of state and more time on studying the arcane, dance, and the arts.

In a sense he was terrible as a politician and listened to advisors and trusted their judgement more than his own, to mixed results. While a terrible politician, he was an excellent mage who handled most of his own spell work and created a vast collection of magical items of his own design.

His relationship with Sefoni was complicated due to the politically coercive nature of it, but the two were on seemingly amiable terms near the end of his life.

His cause of death was poison.

Blood color: White

Height: 6′4

Age: 10 sweeps at his death.

Palixa Xinera:

Shylin’s younger sister and mastermind behind the merger of the Galito and Alternian empires.

As a younger daughter she was not first in line for the throne, but blatantly killing her family was not an option so she devised a plan to put herself ahead of all of her siblings by organizing their deaths, leaving the least competent among them to live, feeding lines to an advisor to give him, and returning from hiding after his death as the rightful heir.

Sefoni had a crush on her when she was younger and she took full advantage of those feelings to draw her in, banking on the fact that she would be too relieved to see her alive again to fully process the circumstances until it was too late.

Sefoni and her had an almost caliginous relationship near the end, but the manipulation and betrayal (and long term potential instability) is what prompted Sefoni to arrange for the end of the Xinera bloodline one and for all.

Her cause of death was an arrow through the chest.

Height: 6’0

Age: 11 at her time of death.

Bonus under the cut!

Redraw sketches of the picture below.

I like the idea of the wings folding up (so they’re easier to draw when not in full regalia!)

And another drawing I did of him that Sef posted to her vent blog once.

[nibblyjimbles]

alrighty! here are all of my silly fantroll ships! Thredd hates highbloods, but shares lots of sentiments with Frezek. He pesters Viruke about where he stands, does he support the Condensce or is he a rebel? This interferes with Viruke's moiraillegiance, therefore Shreeg is trying to keep Thredd's caliginous/ashen advances out of his pale relationship with Viruke. Andron and Urzius are the most stable moirails, though Andron does have a flushed crush on my jadeblood Odayah, though she's already in a matespritship with my indigoblood Ervana.

Lexrov fucking hates Frezek, but in the pitch sort of way, it's mainly because Frez sees her as an easy target for the injustice highbloods have caused. its a very one sided crush since Frezek isn't one for concupiscent relationships. Sheldi is the one that has brought the group together. Her moirail, Teslie has a flushed crush on her, but she's VERY oblivious to these flushed feelings. That being said, Teslie is perfectly fine staying pale for now. Morava is deceased, but when she was alive, she and Sheldi were in a matespritship. Sheldi misses her dearly, which may be a reason as to why she's seemingly oblivious to Teslie's flushed feelings. As for my favourite ship? I'd say Thredd and Frezek, their moiraillegiance is an entertaining one, imagine a small angry ball of fury shouting "lemme at 'em!" while the silent brooding type guy is holding his collar while just staring into the void. That's just too good for it not to be my favourite~