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[/league/lazarus] ENTRY 001.
DAY 004, 16:12Z. west of nanda parbat. the league of assassins is a centuries old myth made flesh: a group of half-maddened shadows that all follow a single timeless man with the goal of molding the world into his image. they work as a uniform body, each a muscle under the scrutiny of the head of the demon. few ghouls leave the side of their master, for who would forsake such intoxicating power to live among mortals again? to have the demon's favor is to be afforded the life-giving powers of the lazarus pits.
from the breast of the source came the seven forces of the universe, with life force & death force being the most important in their relation to the league. the death force is a primordial energy which is intangible to mortal & immortal alike -- though exceptional mortals have briefly harnessed it with disastrous results, such as the possession of the tear of extinction by the late king arion of atlantis.
those who live through brushes with the death force are said to have become corrupt, necrotic bastardizations of their former selves; this sacrifice of sanity also affords the entity with an infectious affinity to take the life force of others. in contrast, life force affords organic matter to flourish in the multiverse; entities that interface directly with the life force are said to retain a connection to all life & are afforded the power to compel & control any life born of the sea. the only known entity to have directly interfaced with pure life force is the greek deity poseidon.
power struggles between pantheons after the source birthed them all caused untold catastrophe across earth as each laid their claims to the planet. these disasters formed great mountains & perilous valleys, within which concentrated pools began to form where the blood of gods were spilled. as eons passed, undisturbed life force & death force mingled into a physical manifestation best described as an unnatural syrup-like liquid that emits an eerie emerald light despite a lack of bio-luminescence.
to the rest of the world, the earthen hollows that contain the lazarus resin are most commonly referred to as ley lines.
these pits, as they would eventually be coined, remained undiscovered by mortal life until 688 CE when a young healer discovered the first in the arabian peninsula on the search for the cure to an unknown ailment that plagued his patient. in a desperate attempt to save the man as the spirit of ahriman watched nearby, this doctor & his wife placed his patient into the pit. the perfect balance of life & death cleansed his body of the disease; the toll paid in return was the clarity of his mind. maddened by the invasion of the connection to all existing life & the rot of necrosis, he strangled the doctor's wife before the effects had time to wear off.
the doctor razed the city of qaryat al-faw in his grief & set out to discover more about these mysterious pits. well rounded in the mythos of his era, the doctor named this phenomenon a lazarus pit. having witnessed the first man to be resurrected in the likeness of lazarus, the doctor was cautious in his experimentation & it took many years before he began to harness its strength to preserve his youth & that of those who followed him. those who pledged themselves to his cause were blessed by their leader to access the pool in healing major injuries & protect them from the sands of time. first among these were the doctor's parents & the badawī tribesmen whom he had been raised among.
rā's al ghūl, my grandfather, achieved complete control over all discovered lazarus pits in the world; he discovered almost all himself. through these, he maintains near immortality & has returned from death hundreds of times. as of this written account, rā's al ghūl is deceased.
he will return; i will understand who he once was before that day comes.
#⊰ ℜ ⊱ ┊ i need not for your absolution; do not hold that sword over me. ┊ DAMIAN WAYNE: CANON.#CHRONOLOGICAL META.#rattles the cobwebs out of my brains#behold: i officially took a stance on the pits
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5 Good Omens Timefucks that Haunt Me
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Why is this here? Why is this line included? Is it just to add texture, to imply that larger world of corporate fascism of which Crowley and Aziraphale are subjects and victims and little worker bees? If so, why "They've started early" specifically? Why not "I wouldn't have expected that shrub to be the first to go" or "Aw, I liked that rock formation"?
Crawly doesn't make this comment in an offhand way: he sounds a bit taken aback and not thrilled that things have kicked off sooner than he anticipated. But it doesn't ultimately seem to make any difference to this scene, so why do we, the audience, need to know Hell started early?
2.
This one I'm not as confident will turn out to be significant, because iirc it appears in the book, which was a complete story when written, and because it serves a narrative purpose: it puts Agnes Nutter in charge of the situation, not her murderers. By backfooting Witchfinder Major Pulsifer, Agnes startles him enough she's able to walk past him without Pulsifer seizing her and discovering the extra 80 lbs of gunpowder and roofing nails in her skirts.
But. Agnes Nutter's sense of time is Nice and Accurate, and she notices the witchburning party are late and remarks on it to herself before she says anything to Pulsifer. So assuming a few minutes to position Agnes, tie her to the stake, and read the charges and conviction against her, Pulsifer and Agnes' neighbors are 12-15 minutes later than they should be. Why?
If the book answers this question, I don't recall; the show does not. And again, it seems to make no ultimate difference to this scene.
I'm not saying this was even purposely included in S1 as a timefuck. I am suggesting that as Gaiman seems to be fucking with time or timelines in this story, even if he and Pratchett didn't plan it like this when discussing the sequel, a retcon is hardly out of the question.
3.
As others have pointed out, Shostakovich's Symphony No. 5 is 45-55 minutes long. If you're listening to it on 78s instead of LPs because you are a CRAZY PERSON, it's going to take you more like 1 hour 5 minutes, because one side of a 78 holds, at most, 5 minutes of music, so every 5 minutes you have to get up and flip or switch the record.
Shostakovich wrote his 5th symphony in response to criticism in the state newspaper (possibly penned by Stalin himself) that his previous work didn't suck the Communist Party's dick hard enough--the kind of criticism that put him in danger of being sent to prison or killed. At the time it was first performed in 1937, Symphony No. 5 was considered a massive triumph, walking the line perfectly between Shostakovich's artistic standards and the Communist Party's demands of him.
The choice is symbolically significant, but it's a symphony, so whoever's censoring it isn't censoring lyrics or information. Again, why? Why is a 45-55-minute symphony only 21 minutes long? What did the time thief do with the 24-34 minutes?
4.
Here's the rug that covers the portal to Heaven in Episode 1:
Here's the rug in Ep. 2:
Aziraphale does not change this rug for the party. We know this bc we see it in Episode 5 when Mrs Sandwich enters the bookshop and the party is in full swing:
Now here's Aziraphale moving the circular rug to expose the portal to Heaven:
But here's Crowley, putting the rug back:
Why are there two different rugs?
5.
Every end credits track has the first line of "Everyday" embedded in it But after the line from "Everyday," at the end of Episode 4, the theme skips twice like a vinyl record, and then is stopped by whoever controls the turntable and restarted, with several seconds of music having been skipped over.
This is not the first time it has mattered to a character in Good Omens what we in the audience see and hear. I argue here that God asks Aziraphale what he did with the flaming sword She gave him in order to show us the audience who Aziraphale is. God also addresses us the audience directly in S1, not only narrating about characters omnisciently but speaking to us about Herself in first person.
Now we evidently have a second character who has gone meta and is changing what we the audience experience of this story, and--indications are good--the story itself.
#good omens#good omens s2#good omens meta#good omens timefucks#good omens chronology#good omens discontinuity#good omens as metafiction
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something about learning, idk
#no i will not elaborate#/hj anyway#kirbyposting#my art or something#meta knight#kirby#sailor dee#bandana waddle dee#metadad#quinn does comics#this is in chronological order. it counts#yesterday was Father’s Day and i did not think to post this ???
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Alright I know the gag of people asking for spoilers has been run into the ground by this point but I think it’s still funny so here goes:
Hey can you describe the upcoming plot in very specific detail? Actually maybe you could draw it so it’s easier to follow the action. Although drawing and writing all of that at once might be a lot to handle, so you could release it in batches every once in a while instead of all at once. It would be like some sort of webcomic! Then we could read the updates and learn the plot as we get new pages! What a neat concept, am I right?
idk man, that seems like a great concept, but I'm afraid it's a bit far-fetched.
Do you really think anyone would read that? Like, pay attention to the dialogue and understand what the characters are saying? Figure out small bits of foreshadowing in order to theorize effectively about what could happen next? Consider larger themes and put them together with how the characters act to understand the author's intended meaning beyond just the surface-level, at-face-value reading and shallow interpretation of only what is immediately apparent on the page?
It feels like it could be something... but I just don't know.
#comics tell stories: big if true#things that will happen in the comic will be revealed through chronologically logical events presented by the author!#chekhov answers#meta#thank you for the laugh#this is good
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so all of the fic where the GAR and Coruscant Guard don't get along because the GAR thinks Coruscant is a cushy gig and the Guard are in Literal Hell are
so fucking chefkiss
like it is a trope i will DEVOUR, i will unhinge my jaw and swallow that shit whole
but
what about an inverse?
what about a Guard that's the protecting soldier meme except real?
troopers on leave on Coruscant finally feel like they can relax from the war because they know the Guard has their back, and everyone knows that if you need a hand or an ear or a hug you can ask any Guard* and they are always the most patient helpful big brother types ever, they will listen and they will help and they will protecc
(*sole exception: fox**, who shoulders all of the pain and rage and condenses it into a tiny supernova of fury in his chest that he shoves down into a locked box of emotions, and one day he'll die
**except also very much including fox, who rages and rails and might throttle you for being an idiot but he'll also absolutely gut any aggressive natborn that even breathes in your direction)
so they still might think that Coruscant's a cakewalk compared to the frontlines but they're glad that they have brothers protecting the homefront too, they're glad that at least SOME of them can stay gentle and kind and at peace
of course then palpatine and the sith and all the corruption in the senate are exposed
(because TCW canon is for COWARDS and people who like being SAD)
and the GAR realizes all the shit that the Corries went through, all the ostracization and threats and abuse and pain
and it just
made them kind
#tcw#tcw meta#coruscant guard#commander fox#things i need to know:#is 'natborn' canon or fanon#and is calling the guard 'corries' canon or fanon#no i haven't finished watching the series yet#it is a STRUGGLE okay#tho i have switched to watching it chronologically#which makes the experience like 45% less infuriating#maybe 35%#the next in the list is a jar jar episode and i've been putting it off for a week#liz's tcw watch order: depends on how much i want to grind my teeth that day#but i did get to see baby domino squad and that was gr8#99 deserves better 2k23#someone else should write that
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The Lannisters + Cunning
A Game of Thrones - Tyrion III
A Game of Thrones - Tyrion IV
A Game of Thrones - Tyrion V
A Clash of Kings - Tyrion I
A Storm of Swords - Tyrion I
A Storm of Swords - Tyrion III
A Storm of Swords - Tyrion VI
A Storm of Swords - Tyrion VI
A Storm of Swords - Tyrion VIII
A Feast for Crows - Cersei III
A Feast for Crows - Cersei III
A Feast for Crows - Cersei V
#house lannister#tyrion lannister#cersei lannister#tywin lanister#meta#valyrianscrolls#hmm. lots to think about#i love how this word is interchangeable to them re: positive and negative#they use it as a compliment and an insult#I debated if I should keep the one about their father or make the post just about the two siblings#but i think it is meaningful that he is also described that way#btw this is in chronological order of quotes#mine#reference
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Alright excuse my compulsion to situate everything within a timeline, but. I love that now there's more than one story taking place before The Killing Joke that establishes Bruce empathizing and relating to Joker, and that Zdarsky clearly took inspiration from the one before his own for this aspect of Bruce and Joker's relationship.
The events of Zdarsky's I Am A Gun take place while Dick is a boy and still Robin, early in Batman's career... and so does Darwyn Cooke's amazing-showstopping-spectacular Batman: Ego. In Ego, we get another instance of Bruce's mind being split in two; there being a separation between Bruce and Batman, with the embodiment of Batman arguing for Joker's murder:
-- Batman: Ego
But Bruce says no. He says he isn't a killer:
Forever obsessed with how Darwyn Cooke so efficiently conveys how Bruce understands Joker, and relates to him. He knows Joker chose madness to deal with tragedy, that he was faced with the same choice Bruce was, and that Bruce could've become him. Because that's what Bruce lapsing into laughter and acting like Joker shows.
But the story is centred around Bruce in Batman: Ego, while in I Am A Gun... perhaps the best line to summarize it is Bruce thinking to himself, "Is the Joker broken too?" in Batman (2016) #128. It's not just the two facets of Bruce vs. Batman in this story, it's also the two facets of Joker: a human being, and a monster.
The conflict in Bruce is mirrored in Joker, and I am kissing Zdarsky on the mouth for acknowledging it and portraying it so beautifully. There's a monster in Bruce made out of hollow anger, and there's a human being crying for help buried inside Joker:
-- Batman (2016) #130 -- I Am A Gun
"He'll fix you." And Martha being the one to say this, the one who becomes Joker herself in a different world, a different Universe... perhaps it's not intentional, but it feels so relevant. In Flashpoint, Thomas Wayne is a Batman who kills. In New 52's Earth 2, he's a Batman who killed Joker himself. And in Bruce's head, it's Thomas Wayne arguing for Joker's death.
But I just love that keeping both I Am A Gun and Ego in mind, knowing that these thoughts and emotions were there for Bruce for years, makes The Killing Joke... even more poignant.
Bruce has been thinking about this for a long time. And all of it coming to a head with the iconic offer for help, with the one time Bruce offered Joker his hand despite what Joker had just done...
-- Batman: The Killing Joke
[clenches fist] It's beautiful.
#long post#and this not even mentioning Bruce going up to Joker's cell and showing him the playing card as revealed in DotF#which takes place chronologically around Year 2 as well#or freaking Going Sane which takes place before Dick came along#fascinating how all these stories shape the early years of Bruce's relationship with Joker. BEFORE Jason's murder#because that changed so much for Bruce. for both of them#I'm also going [WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN] about Batman 130 itself and Bruce thinking of Joker before ''dying''#I Am A Gun and TMWSL tie in thematically TOO WELL#identity crises! identity crises everywhere#hnng. anyway. I'm sorry I had to exorcise the Thoughts#batman#batman meta#bruce wayne#bruce wayne meta#joker#batjokes#batjokes meta#my meta#batman: i am a gun#batman: ego
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Redrew this illustration from the novels
#kirby#kots#kirby of the stars#kirby fanart#hoshi no kirby#dedede#king dedede#meta knight#i just find their dynamic in the novels extremely charming#it started with Dedede thinking he's besties with Meta Knight or something and Meta being fed up with him#and ended with Meta Knight enjoying his time with Dedede so much specifically because he likes to piss him off#meta knight enjoys seeing dedede being a dumbass so much it fills his heart with joy#and mine#if you read the novels chronologically you can actually tell Meta Knight starts being happier by the last ones and I love that#he's just giggling and laughing and king dedede is confused and wants to be offended but also proud#i also love how their dynamic changed around the middle#right around the strongest warrior in the galaxy#everyone was like 'noo Meta Knight wouldn't do this he has to be possessed' and Dedede is 'he would totally do this'#and then he's proving right by the end i love that for him#dedede knows meta knight better than anyone and he knows that man is an ASSHOLE /pos#i loved their dynamic in the rtdl novel a lot too truly the adhd vs autism of all time
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my pretentious trait is that i get richard ii and coriolanus, RIP to the haters but they're literally the two best plays in their respective categories because the leads are That Good in my opinion
#critics: who even are these people#me: gay obviously#no but imo they're two of the characters that speak the most truth in shakespeare#id say hamlet gets some of that as well (but im still warming to that one bit by bit) and julius caesar#and usually there's a scene in aaalmost any shakespeare play in which one or more of the female characters spit truth#(and then it's just about whether they're respected and/or believed in that truth-telling)#but these two. margaret is also underrated imo but i imagine thats because she's stuck in the middle of henry vi#but yeah i think coriolanus and richard ii wear their hearts on their sleeves and idk. it seems to alienate for some reason#shakespeare#coriolanus#richard ii#richard ii literally spelling out the whole Theme of every play that chronologically comes next *let's speak of graves*#and for her to be Disrespected like this?#i once did you common cry of curs over and over for the satisfaction. after All That!!!#the Poetry of these plays!!!!!!!!!! the meta thematic throughlines of them!!!!!!!! the Scale of them!!!!!!!!!!!!
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heads up, gaypiratedivorce over on ao3 put together a full canon timeline for iwtv - link here - which has been a fantastic resource for writing fic.
unfortunately, it has also shown me i'm a dumb dumb and got grace's age wildly wrong, which is not a big thing overall except that the fic i'm writing was built on my incorrect assumption and i'm 12k in. so i guessed she was like, twenty-five-ish at her wedding?? anyway i came to this conclusion from the age of her actress (thirty at time of filming), paul and louis' given ages (thirty and thirty-three in 1910/11) and morgan's comment in 2x01 about her being 'about sixty now' in a thirty-five year old photo from her wedding in 1944 -- but no. going by the comment that louis missed her thirtieth birthday during florence's 1923 wake, she was likely about EIGHTEEN in 1911.
why, i hear you cry, is this a big deal to me? bc it means that levi proposed, at the absolute oldest, to SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD and that's why he didn't ask florence's permission to propose. he's not only useless and an asshole, he's also creepy as hell!! and Paul Was So Right for all of this:
truly. what the fuck levi. louis should've fucking eaten you
#yes im aware that lestat and louis' age difference is like over a century. shhhh. thats not the topic of discussion rn#iwtv#meta#kinda??#grace de pointe du lac#levi freniere#paul de pointe du lac#louis de pointe du lac#anyway use the chronological timeline its fantastic. if anyone knows the author's tumblr lmk and i'll tag them here
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I know that part of the HSR fanbase would hate me for saying this but….
Let it be known that whoever ships Yanqing and Jing Yuan together in a romantic sense:
Yes, a BBBIIIIGGGG Fuck You for even thinking about it.
#rubi’s post#honkai star rail#jing yuan#yanqing#meta#discourse#anti jing yuan x yanqing#anti age gap ships#tw p*dophilia#for context: yanqing is stated to be an 8 yr old kid#and jing yuan is centuries years old chronological wise#and physically he’s an adult man#so anyone who ships these two in a romantic sense#they’re getting an automatic block
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HEADCANON 013. DAMIAN & ASPD.
OG POST. most damian writers will diagnose him with autism, my portrayal aligns closer with ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER (aspd).
i was originally going to write this about sociopathy but damian was born with an emotional disconnect, a symptom of those with aspd. without his brain’s amygdala (fight or flight instinct), he is reckless, impulsive, and careless. it makes him a great assassin but it also stunts him emotionally. studies have shown that those with aspd, with no empathy and no proper emotional connections in their brain, will begin to mimic those around them in an attempt to fit in. damian had been hard-wired to be talia’s perfect successor. it was a way of life and also the way to nurture a sociopath. by frowning on emotional outbursts but praising him for logical achievements, this taught damian to repress anything and everything. with no coping mechanisms as a child, this further pushed him back.
according to the national library of medicine, aspd is a "deeply ingrained and dysfunctional thought process that focuses on social exploitive, delinquent, and criminal behavior most commonly known due to the affected individual's lack of remorse for these behaviors. [ ... ] disregard for and the violation of others' rights are common manifestations of this personality disorder, which displays symptoms that include failure to conform to the law, inability to sustain consistent employment, deception, manipulation for personal gain, and incapacity to form stable relationships." further, mark zimmerman states "[b]oth genetic and environmental factors (eg, abuse during childhood) contribute to the development of antisocial personality disorder. a possible mechanism is impulsive aggression, related to abnormal serotonin transporter functioning. disregard for the pain of others during early childhood has been linked to antisocial behavior during late adolescence."
another study from 2010 for aspd in incarcerated offenders brings up an interesting point: "[aspd] is associated with comorbid disorders, high suicide risk, and impaired quality of life. those with comorbid adhd were more impaired than those without adhd." theravive references the dsm-5 in saying "[ ... ] antisocial personality disorder is comorbid with substance abuse disorder, and other personality disorders (american psychiatric association, 2013)". this specifically aligns well to damian & his grappling with his skin condition. skin hunger is a condition created out of emotional distance in some children, especially if neglected touch from birth through childhood. it’s especially difficult to deal with on top of aspd. it can lead to health problems, skin conditions, and in the most severe cases: death. humans require endorphins to function healthily so when given none from human touch, damian spent his childhood seeking the rush from other means such as assassination contracts. in his case, he developed a skin condition from it, thanks to his heightened senses. when touched by another human, his skin feels like it’s being lit on fire. it’s similar to the feeling of cold water splashing on feverish flesh but amplified. fortunately, the cure for it is simple: human contact. his childhood with it is rough but by the time he reaches maturity, he grows out of it thanks to spending the second half of his childhood roughhousing with his older brothers.
back to aspd. zimmerman had another point that i think is important to highlight: "[r]emorse for actions is lacking. patients with antisocial personality disorder may rationalize their actions by blaming those they hurt (eg, they deserved it) or the way life is (eg, unfair). they are determined not to be pushed around and to do what they think is best for themselves at any cost."
FOR A DIAGNOSIS OF ASPD, PATIENTS MUST HAVE: a persistent disregard for the rights of others AND meet three or more of the following criteria.
disregarding the law, indicated by repeatedly committing acts that are grounds for arrest
being deceitful, indicated by lying repeatedly, using aliases, or conning others for personal gain or pleasure
acting impulsively or not planning ahead
being easily provoked or aggressive, indicated by constantly getting into physical fights or assaulting others
recklessly disregarding their safety or the safety of others
consistently acting irresponsibly, indicated by quitting a job with no plans for another one or not paying bills
not feeling remorse, indicated by indifference to or rationalization of hurting or mistreating others
for a full diagnosis to be accurate, aspd is typically diagnosed at eighteen. the patient must have disorder present before the age of fifteen & the behavior patterns must continue into their young adulthood. there is no evidence of a "cure" for aspd. the current treatments for it are cognitive-behavioral therapy & drugs: both of these are considered short-term goals & are not permanent solutions. neither of which, damian will partake in.
#⊰ ℜ ⊱ MY WHAT HAVE I DONE? FUCK IT LET'S KILL EVERYONE ! \ headcanons.#CHRONOLOGICAL META.#q.#ask to tag /#i swear i gotta start annotating these with mla lmfaoo#time to regress to college papers just to write some hcs#this is just a post of me going through a bunch of academic papers with an orange highlighter
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I’ve been thinking about what you said in regard to Johannes becoming a ghoul, and now I’m wondering what it means that he felt such a strong camaraderie with the ghouls. I feel like there’s something I haven’t figured out yet as to why his friends are ghouls in particular, but I like the idea that Johannes is more open to making genuine connections (and not shunning those feelings) while he is animalistic
personally, i think it boils down to how he's never (felt he has) been treated with compassion, empathy, and understanding by any of his fellow human beings, except for his deceased love. my interpretation of why he felt companionship with the Other and the Animal is heavily based on, just. how insanely autistic coded Johannes is.
he's strange, he's weird, he doesn't get social cues right and his interests aren't normal ones. he didn't feel loved by his family, was almost definitely socially bullied & peer pressured by his brother throughout their childhood if Johannes' outright hostility towards Horst & remembering specific events where he humiliated him in book 1 is anything to go by, and as an adult is constantly called a psychopath and not human to his face (thanks for that, Leonie. really showing off the psychology part of your criminal psychology degree).
Johannes was never treated as a human. yeah, sure, dabbling in the dark arts of necromancy and going against every social "normality" there ever was will do that, but he wasn't treated as one to begin with, either. at some point he likely internalized that, and being forced into the shape of a ghoul simply externalized that ever-present internal fear. he simply realized halfway through that he still liked some parts of humanity, unlike all the other ghouls who, if not enthusiastically, fell into the maladaptive coping mechanism of embracing their inhuman status.
which is to say that the reason Johannes made more connections as a ghoul than he did as a person is the same one that causes many neurodivergent & socially undesirable people in real life find comfort in the animal and bestial:
reject the pain of personhood. become a dog instead.
#korro.response#surfinthehighway#johannes cabal#johannes cabal meta#the fear institute#it is worth saying that the first person* (chronologically) he finds a genuine connection with is also an absolute freak#but i don't know if you're been introduced to her yet as she's a short story/book 5 character#but keep it in mind: johannes becomes more willing to engage with human sociability#the moment he feels comfortable that he will not be othered and mocked for not being good enough at being a person
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Uncomfortable Ramifications
As a separate follow-up to my post about my perceived disparity between the actions and their results of the alarms in heaven and the apology dance, I'm going to try to describe - as if it isn't obvious - why these are so scary to try and resolve. And this is coming from someone who is all-but onboard with the possibility that there are two realities (for want of a better word). And/or that things are so very out of order. Or overlapping...or something!
So, yeh, I'm just going to put myself out here for ridicule and pity. But I think I will feel better just to get it out of my brain and out there.
If we I try to put the bright flash of light in heaven with the Jim-hiding miracle, that puts Crowley in two places at the "same" time... but at two supposed different chronological times (????): performing the miracle with Azi AND being in heaven with Muriel and Saraqael, which is supposed to be during the demon attack. WTH?
In my post comparing the different Arrivals, I asked about this:
As for those trumpets...what? Why are we hearing trumpets? I know we hear them in S1E4 after they beat up Aziraphale and that was to signal that Armageddon was starting.
If the trumpets that Azi hears in the music shop with Maggie in E2, are when Crowley and the angels return to earth as a result of Azi blowing up his halo and nearly declaring war on hell, rather than the "hiding Gabriel" inquiry...well, that obviously puts Azi in two places at the same...different...time. WTF?
As an aside, if the trumpets really correspond to Michael, Uriel, and Saraqael simply going to earth, to the bookshop, to inquire about Gabriel, that seems to contradict the Metatron's desire (order?) to explicitly NOT raise any alarms about Gabriel's disappearance.
SARAQUEL: Right. I can't… I can't find his memory anywhere. In fact, I can't find him in the building. He's left Heaven. Should I sound an alert? METATRON: Oh, don't be so wet. No, you're all just going to have to find him. That's all.
So, again, I ask, what's with the trumpets?
Anyway, I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.
If the apology dance is for not returning to help defend the shop against the demons, that puts the demon attack before they even perform the miracle to hide Gabriel. Not to mention before the kiss and Azi's departure.
So even though the actions (e.g., the hiding miracle/halo explosion, and what warrants an apology dance) and their results feel out of proportion, trying to swap those around just makes things worse.
And, yes, I am very much aware what utter BS this must sound like. I get it.
My own brain hurts. It's just that I'm having a problem taking the chrono order that we've been shown without questioning it. On the other hand, perhaps I have no choice.
I hope I have given you all a good laugh. And maybe this post just needs to sink into obscurity. Yeh, probably for the best.
#good omens s2#good omens trumpets#good omens chronological order#good omens realities#gos2#good omens questions#good omens stupid theory#embarrassing myself#go meta#good omens meta
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Mr. Pilot dropped a brick of lore on us out of nowhere. sir, i was not quite prepared,
this has been sitting in my drafts for like a week bc i was planning to finish the Sapphire transcript first, but uh. that is taking A WHILE. and i want people to know about Green Viking because i've been drawing him constantly. hoo boy
i'm planning to make a post with links to all of the transcripts so far when i can! once i've got The Big One finalized and do transcripts for the shorter scenes i'll try and compile them together. until then: it never hurts to give thanks to the Navigator
#leo.txt#twitch smp#vikingpilot#rubyco#meta analysis stuff#bell noises!#tsmp#AAGHHHH . ok im drafting this until the other one is done so we can have this in chronological order#clock noises!#leo.pdf
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Batjokes Timeline
This is based in Rebirth/Infinite Frontier but it overlaps with other eras cause yk. Comics. Where possible I tried to put the original comic/arc instead of the Rebirth comic where it was referenced or shown in a flashback, since most of the Rebirth timeline prior to like Year 16-17 is shown via flashbacks or references. Cause again. Comics.
Also this is almost entirely based on info from the Batman Chronology Project I just pulled out the Batjokes bits.
Please correct me if any of this is wrong because I am Not going through every single one of these to double-check. Also lmk if there are any other comics that can fit in a certain place on this timeline.
YEAR ONE
Zero Year: Secret City
Zero Year: Dark City
Bruce adopts Dick as his ward (Nightwing Vol. 4 #32, Nightwing Vol. 4 #69, Batman Vol. 3 #54, Strange Love Adventures #1 Part 6)
Dick begins training, which lasts six months (Detective Comics #1000 Part 9)
Batman: The Man Who Laughs
First instance of the monthly birthday present ritual occurs in early December (Detective Comics #1027 Part 3)
Bruce visits Arkham to meet with Joker and shows him the playing card he found in the Batcave, revealing his identity to Joker (Batman Vol. 2 #17)
Note: Dr. Harleen Quinzel has been Joker's therapist since his first stay at Arkham Asylum
YEAR TWO
Dick debuts as Robin (Batman Chronicles: The Gauntlet and Batman and Robin Vol. 2 Annual #2)
Batman saves Joker from Deathstroke (Batman Vol. 3 #122-123)
War of Jokes and Riddles
YEAR THREE
Dr. Harleen Quinzel, having fallen in love with the Joker (gotta love the horrifying medical malpractice), breaks him out of Arkham Asylum, becoming his girlfriend and sidekick Harley Quinn (Harley Quinn Vol. 3 #17, Harley Quinn 25th Anniversary Special #1 Part 4, Batman Vol. 3 #42)
YEAR FOUR
In March, for Batman’s monthly “birthday present,” Joker sends a crudely drawn picture of himself and Batman with the words “Best Friends” written on it (Detective Comics #1027 Part 3)
I Am a Gun
Note: Batman admitted he underwent those sensory deprivation tests in an isolation chamber so he could experience hallucinations and psychotic states to see a glimpse of how Joker's mind worked (Batman Vol. 1 #673)
YEAR FIVE
Barbara debuts as Batgirl (Batgirl Vol. 4 #0)
Batman chases Joker down to Blüdhaven, Gordon and the GCPD shoot their way through their former co-workers into a warehouse filled with piñatas. Inside each piñata is a corpse (Joker Vol. 2 2021 Annual)
Note: for the past year, Joker had only been pulling pop-crime pranks and small time heists
YEAR SIX
An escaped Joker decides not to commit any crimes for once, instead following Batman around, simply trying to get the grim Dark Knight to laugh (referenced in Event Leviathan #2)
YEAR SEVEN
In February, an escaped Joker defeats the Teen Titans (Robin, Cyborg, Starfire, Beast Boy, and Raven), leaving them bound, unconscious, and underwater as Batman’s monthly “birthday gift" (Detective Comics #1027 Part 3)
Dick turns 18 and quits as Robin (Robin 80th Anniversary 100-Page Spectacular Part 1)
Bruce meets Jason Todd and starts training him (Batman #408-409)
Dick debuts as Nightwing
Joker unveils his "Laughing Fish" gag (Detective Comics #475-476)
Jason Todd debuts as Robin (Truth and Justice #10)
YEAR NINE
Batman: The Killing Joke
A Death in the Family
Tim begins training as Robin (A Lonely Place of Dying)
YEAR TEN
Tim debuts as Robin
Knightfall
Rock of Ages
Batman fights Onomatopoeia and saves Joker's life (Batman: Cacophony #3)
YEAR ELEVEN
Cataclysm
Aftershock
No Man’s Land
Tower of Babel
Note: Batman appoints Cass Cain as Batgirl during No Man's Land
YEAR TWELVE
Under the Hood
Tim stops being Robin, Stephanie Brown takes over temporarily before she is fired and Tim is reinstated (Robin Vol. 2 #124-130)
YEAR THIRTEEN
Batman R.I.P.
Bruce meets Damian for the first time (Batman and Son)
YEAR FOURTEEN
Harley breaks up with Joker for good (Gotham City Sirens #1)
Bruce makes Damian his full-time official partner (Batman & Robin Vol. 2 #1-8)
Joker buries Simon Hurt alive, which is the same way Hurt tried to kill Batman. Hm (Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne #6 and Batman & Robin #13-16)
Joker removes his face and goes into hiding (Detective Comics Vol. 2 #1)
Death of the Family
YEAR FIFTEEN
Endgame
Superheavy
YEAR SIXTEEN
Duke joins the Batfamily (Batman: Rebirth #1)
Batman locates Joker (presumably still amnesiac at this point) and apprehends him, incarcerating him in Sub-Cave Alpha. in exchange for information about Dionesium, Batman tells Joker about his “dark energy” investigation and covert use of the Outsiders and “Black Sites.” He even shows Joker his cloning machine and the “Meta-File” on the Bat-computer (Dark Days: The Casting)
Batman proposes to Catwoman, presumably while Joker is still in his basement (Batman Vol. 3 #24)
Hal and Duke find Joker in the Batcave cell (Dark Days: The Forge)
Batman teams up with Joker to defeat the Batman Who Laughs (Dark Nights: Metal #4-6)
YEAR SEVENTEEN
Joker finds out about Batman’s engagement (Batman: Prelude to the Wedding Part 2 Nightwing vs Hush #1)
The Best Man
Batman and Catwoman call off the wedding but stay engaged (Batman Vol. 3 #50)
YEAR EIGHTEEN
The Batman Who Laughs #1-7
YEAR NINETEEN
Their Dark Designs
Joker War
YEAR TWENTY-ONE
Failsafe
The Man Who Stopped Laughing #1-4
#this is mostly for me tbh#i wanted to see if their relationship had like#a visible Pattern#and yeah#laying it out chronologically was interesting for sure#anyway#batjokes#also this is like mostly just titles#bc i am too tired to write summaries for everything#might make an extended version later#not rn though#uuhhh#my stuff#meta#ig#text post
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