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Clone and Unknowingly Cuddling
I’ve seen a lot of back and forth in whether clone troopers would be big on physical touch or not.
I think that it would make a little more sense especially from canon that the clones would be a little bit less into physical touch just based on their upbringing… HOWEVER
How funny would it be that no matter wear they fell asleep, who they were nearest to, anything, while they are asleep they will somehow find a way to cuddle right up to the nearest person.
They could be in the opposite side of a cave from someone on their own sleeping pad and everything and still somehow find a way to end up right on top of that other person.
Obi-Wan was very confused the first time he and Cody shared a tent in a campaign and he woke up to find Cody gone from his own cot on one side of the tent and in his cot.
Rex was horrified when he woke up on night while in a mission spooning his general. Anakin was a little surprised but didn’t say anything about it.
Even someone as standoffish and scary as Fox, has woken up after falling asleep on Senator Chuchi’s couch after going 4 days without sleep, completely glommed into the Pantoran.
Echo thought for sure he was going to be decommissioned when he woke up wrapped around his little commander, but Ahsoka assured him that she really didn’t mind and slept quite well.
Bly almost had a heart attack the first time he’d done it to Aalya. He’d even positioned himself closer to one of his captains that night so it wouldn’t happen. He’d quickly realized that the person spooning him from behind was his captain.
This habit of unconsciously ending up cuddling other people happens to make clone cuddle piles deadly for anybody to close to get dragged in. You will end up with three different people glommed onto you.
Oh did I mention that they also don’t let go until they wake up?
#I’m just saying#I’m jus- I’m just saying#this would be the funny take on clones appearing to be less receptive to physical touch#when in fact they are very touch deprived#let clones cuddle#nah I’ll do you one better#let the clones cuddle the newest person and make them deal with the after affects#the clone wars#sag’s stuff#Clone troopers#commander cody#arc trooper echo#captain rex#commander fox#commander bly#obi wan kenobi#ahsoka tano#Anakin skywalker#riyo chuchi#aayla secura#ahsoka and echo#cody and obi wan#Bly and Aalya#rex and anakin#fox and Riyo#foxiyo
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cody is very protective
#art by hyung#codywan#obi wan kenobi#commander cody#leia organa#just when cody thought he'd finally gotten rid of the cody tsum tsum#another rival appears
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rating the most common ways i misspell obi-wan's name on my phone
Obi-Wam Kenobi
6.5/10 - reminds me of the iconic 1980's pop duo wham
Oni-Wan Kenobi
8/10 - he is indeed a demonic creature to me <3
Obi-Wan Keobi
2/10 - this is the second most common mistake i make thanks to my clumsy thumbs, i rarely catch it, and it's not even funny. my autocorrect now accepts it as a valid word and i've removed it from my learned words once already
Obo-Wan Kenobi
7/10 - big win for the woodwind community
Obi-Wan Kenobo
8.5/10 - this is funnier than the previous typo in my opinion. it's at the end of his name, so the woodwind jumpscare feels more like a punchline
Obi-Wan Kenobu
9/10 - i've heard it's a great restaurant from my aunt, i'd genuinely like to eat there
Obi-Wan Kebobi
4/10 - could be funnier
Ovi-Wan Kenobi
0/10 - my most common typo. utterly cursed, but anything i say criticizing this one could be held against me. i hereby state that i remain ignorant of the connotations of this spelling, and assert that it gets a poor score based on vibes alone. i have deleted it from my autocorrect's learned words multiple times, but i make this mistake so often that it continues to haunt me
#len speaks#obi-wan kenobi#obiwan kenobi#obi wan kenobi#star wars#the clone wars#tcw#too lazy to tag everything he appears in <3 also i made another typo when tagging his name and had to add it to the list
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time travel au but specifically with the flavor of post-66 longtime fugitive obi-wan having little to no sense of self importance next to the grand scheme of things. coming across a power that allows him to choose one (or three?) points in the past where he can temporarily possess his past self and alter events, and one of the first things he thinks of doing is sacrificing himself to save qui-gon, because maybe he'd be the better, wiser, more experienced master; maybe he can catch and handle everything obi-wan couldn't.
except young obi-wan is healed with older-wan still in his body, vader following him through time and ensuring that events go as they did originally - before they're both thrust out of this time, obi-wan failing and lost as to why vader wouldn't at least give himself the decent chance to avoid being maimed at mustafar, and vader ensuring that obi-wan will live to be with anakin.
BONUS! AGAIN! for the three points option! obi-wan is torn between speaking personally with anakin, younger and oblivious to obi-wan taking over his younger self as a general, or to head straight for the council. when he comes to this point in time, however, it's like he has no choice. as soon as anakin approaches him, he has to speak with him, but it comes across harried and panicked (he has too little time). he tries to fly through everything, from anakin's freedom to leave the order if he wishes, to their friendship, attachments, to the influence of the chancellor (and obi-wan has to be so, so careful here). he needs to rush past, to find someone else he can speak more freely with, but anakin stops him, alarmed and concerned, and more so when obi-wan is flown a few feet away from him. vader looms a short distance away, unaggressive but halting obi-wan's efforts nonetheless, until they again run out of time.
obi-wan staggers out of mustafar, dragging two injured with him. padmé's last moments are just as agonizing, and anakin/vader's injuries are as well, but obi-wan flies them to a medical facility as fast as he can. he doesn't have just a time limit now; anakin/vader's wounds will be fatal if not mended fast enough, never mind that already he's in better shape than in the original timeline since obi-wan lifted him out quicker. he's also expecting vader - his vader - any moment, but oddly, that future version of him does not make an appearance this time. obi-wan takes another look at the unconscious sith with him, wondering if this self will kill him once he leaves this body. his intervention continues uninterrupted.
that unsettles him, and he opens his eyes to witness what kind of change just that altered decision, perhaps his largest risk of his three chances, had on the future point he originated from, the one he will now have to live in. for the first short moment, there is only the sensation akin to waking up from a deep sleep. and then, the memories flood in, many old and familiar - until others flow alongside them now, new.
#obikin#vaderwan#whether vader appears in his own physical or ghostly form OR if he also has to take over a body (not necessarily anakin's) is up to you!#this escalated. again.#i do like exploring the theme of obi-wan's self-perception tho. his sense of self or lack thereof.#how it relates to his relationship with the force (and the order and how his perception on both might've shifted or stayed the same)#and when such traits don't necessarily go in his favor. when or if it was outright damaging at some points and what got him that way#and then ofc plugging that facet of him into obikin & how anakin/vader might learn about this side of him and approach it#it's nice. your honor i just think they are neat#also yeah i'm a sucker for “vader killed sidious now he and obi-wan live together in a way that violates this site's community guidelines”#i'm not complicated#fanfiction
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#obi wan kenobi#grim kennet#grim and obi wan#star wars#my oc#star wars oc#jedi oc#my art#fanart#star wars art#sw art#star wars the clone wars#tcwganv memes#i love how confused they are when they meet#neither of them know what's going on#grim just saved obi wan with his own lightsaber#she is currently processing this fact#obi wan is also processing the fact that this random kid saved him after he just saved her#also she appeared out of nowhere#neither of them know their lives have just changed forever
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Remember when a Jedi Master tried to pull away Asajj's thoughts and memories and Asajj just... got over it and murdered the Jedi? She's built different idk
Star Wars: Republic #53 (Written by Haden Blackman, art by Brian Ching)
#daily asajj thought of the day#this is what i mean when i call her insane btw#i need to know more about this dead jedi#she only appears in this issue but we know her name is fay and she's really cool#the day i stop posting republic/star wars comics from the 00s is#um#not today#asajj ventress#ventress#sw#star wars#star wars comics#star wars republic#yael is reading star wars#star wars legends#obi wan kenobi#brian ching your asajj will forever be famous#need haden blackman and brian ching on an asajj and ky miniseries#lol i wish#hey disney star wars canon is cool and all but can you revive legends for some new stories plssss#(delusional)#good night
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"because all he'll see is me" is a line that's absolutely killing me
#idc if its platonic or romantic or qpr or a scret fourth thing#the raw emotion behind that#the attachment#the not even death can tear us apart#the even when all else fails and when i cannot trust myself and i know that you'll be there#you might be there with hatred and disgust and a wish to hurt but you're at least there#the we will fight each other because there is no other way but none of us will die because if one does the other will follow#the when the universe has fallen and i cry myself to sleep because of all you've done it is still your face that appears in my dreams#the i don't know if it brings me pain or comfort but your soul will always be there#the time might heal all wounds but it doesn't make you forget#it doesn't make you forget the pain and it especially doesn't make you forget the joy#the no matter how many times i close my eyes and tries to drive the memories away i can still feel your voice inside my head#the i will spend my days chasing after you and fighting you because at least it will give me a chance to see your eyes#the no matter how much i hate you seeing your face will still bring me to my knees#the your hand will bring me both my downfall and my rebirth#obikin#anakin skywalker#obi wan kenobi spoilers#obi one kenobi episode 6#obi wan kenobi#darth vader#vaderwan#anakin x obi wan#obi wan x anakin
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maybe the worst part about all the Star Wars shows is how many of these baddies they get and then they have no idea what they're doing with them
#star wars#obi wan kenobi#the mandolorian#book of boba fett#for the record each of them won my heart when they first appear#then these mediocre shows just waste them
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Let’s try this again, but this time there is no subtext or humor, there is only monotone dialogue:
Obi-Wan: I have observed your body language—which I have a fairly accurate understanding of because we have lived together for ten years now—and noticed that you are tired
Anakin: I am indeed tired, because I have not been sleeping well, which is a leading cause of tiredness
Obi-Wan: Do you think the reason you’re not sleeping well might be the dreams you have been having of your mother, which we have spoken about in the past?
Anakin: Yes, i believe the dreams of my mother, which I have mentioned to you previously, are the cause of my not sleeping well. I cannot identify any particular cause of these dreams, and I have not had similar ones since I was much younger.
Obi-Wan: Hmm. In general, I assume that because you are now a young adult, you are capable of choosing responsibly whether or not to share specific information by with me, and so I will refrain from interrogating you. Instead I will offer you some advice: If you cannot identify a proximate cause of the dreams, they are likely caused the same complex range of everyday factors which normally influence human dreams, and they will likely go away without major intervention, at which point you will presumably be able to return to your normal sleep schedule.
Y’all I really cannot emphasise enough that if the point of the movie were to tell us that Obi-Wan was mean to Anakin about this, the movie would probably, at some point, show us Obi-Wan being mean to Anakin about this, because that is how storytelling works. The only time we are told that Obi-Wan is at fault for something is straight from Anakin’s mouth, when he is in full on denial mode. What the movie shows us Obi-Wan being—at worst—kind of strict, and for the duration of this conversation, curious and reassuring.
The fact Obi-Wan is the one to bring up the topic of Shmi does show there were previous conversations about this topic; it does not imply Obi-Wan was mean to Anakin. Actually, it implies those conversations were similar to this one, because the storytellers didn’t feel the need to show them to us, ergo, they would be redundant.
Everyone is free to imagine those conversations going however they’d like—characters are inanimate objects, and we are all free to play with our dolls however we wish—but this post is about textual evidence (also it’s about making fun of the textual evidence).
I was reading the Attack of the Clone's script for *research* purposes, and it's been a while since I've seen the full movie but:
OBI-WAN: You look tired. ANAKIN: I don't sleep well, anymore. OBI-WAN: Because of your mother? ANAKIN: I don't know why I keep dreaming About her now. I haven't seen her since I was little. OBI-WAN: Dreams pass in time. ANAKIN: I'd rather dream of Padmé. Just Being around her again is... intoxicating. OBI-WAN: Mind your thoughts, Anakin, they betray you. You've made a commitment to the Jedi order... a commitment not easily broken... and don't forget she's a politician. They're not to be trusted.
Literally I will never be able to take the "Obi-Wan is so mean he didn't let Anakin go find his mother" argument seriously ever again. On a purely factual level, there's not a single indication Anakin told Obi-Wan his dreams showed him his mother was in danger or that he thought they were dreams from the Force. Anakin says himself that he doesn't know why he's dreaming of her, which makes Obiwan's "Dreams pass in time," so incredibly reasonable.
Wait wait wait let me update the language to the *pretentious voice* modern parlance. It'll be like a Shakespere "translation." Here we go:
Obi-Wan: you look tired Anakin: I haven't been sleeping well Obi-Wan: Cuz of your dreams? Anakin: Yeah I've been randomly having dreams about my mom all of a sudden. Obi-Wan: They'll probably go away if you wait a bit. Brains are weird like that sometimes. …
The only evidence Obi-Wan might have to the danger point is that the dreams are disrupting Anakin's sleep. But Obiwan is the one to bring up the dreams, in context of them disrupting Anakin's sleep. If Anakin was looking for an opening, that was it.
But way more importantly to me currently is the fact that Anakin transitions out of talking about his mother by going "I'd rather dream of Padmé. Just Being around her again is... intoxicating."
Wtf anakin??? Who says that??? Let alone to their brother-dad???
He seriously goes from talking about his dreams of his mother to how his crush that he's known for a couple days total at this point is really hot, and people expect me to believe that Obi-Wan was supposed to divine from this conversation that they needed to immediately run halfway across the galaxy to prevent imminent disaster?????
Let me continue my translation:
… Anakin: I'd rather dream about having sex with Padmé. She's so hot and pretty and nice Obi-Wan: Anakin remember how the beliefs you've been committed to for the past ten years are maybe important to you? Also politicians are generally corrupt, we eat the rich in this household.
This is a fanfic type miscommunication plot at best, except for some reason people act like Anakin isn't being about as clear as mud.
#star wars#anakin skywalker#obi wan kenobi#obi wan and anakin#attack of the clones#star wars yoinketh away#not to be an English major about this#but the show/tell distinction is useful an important#especially when they appear to disagree#krayt complains
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i read a bit from master and apprentice some time ago and i don't get how the author and apparently many others from what I've seen around here went from the seemingly easy comradery between qui-gon and obi-wan in the phantom menace to qui-gon having to consciously make an effort to not judge and criticize obi-wan unfairly
#does it come from obi-wan's origins story in legends or what#don't get me wrong i think it's an interesting characterization but where does it come from did it appear in multiple places at once or#also the thing about obi-wan feeling hurt and abandoned when qui-gon wanted to take anakin as a padawan when in the movie obi-wan said#in front of the council that he's ready for the trials#star wars#obi wan kenobi#obi wan#qui gon#master and apprentice#txt
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Star Wars Gang Ewan McGregor is in this playing Obi-Wan!
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#star wars#red nose day#comic relief#comic relief 2023#obi-wan kenobi#ewan mcgregor#star wars prequels#you guys arent gonna find it as funny as i did since i know who everyone in it is and get the jokes#and watched the traitors uk#but the obi wan stuff was fun#i screamed when he appeared#obi wan#Youtube
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Hiii :D
Loving the babynai au rn I’m so soft for them :((<3
With the au where obi is growing up, how fast is he growing up? And would he grow back up with out the scars or would they appear one day? Ohh that would be so sad sanegiyuu would just hold him as he relives it :(
funny enough i drew this the other day while brainstorming !!! im thinking even when he turns into a tiny baby he has his mouth scars ):
to be drawn but methinsk sanegiyuu (and the others once they get to see him) are all extremely careful with his scar … some of them give it gentle little kisses
often times his scar hurts him a lot.. insert angst -> fluff scenarios here
how fast is he growing up…? i’d say he ages up a year each week! however his growth can be stunted depending on the situation
— ex: if he’s having a really hard time emotionally he’ll end up being two years old for like a week and a half
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Obi-Wan either loves or strongly dislikes Luke. However, he is adamant that Luke and Quinlan should never meet - ever.
And then Anakin shows up on the scene and chaos unfolds.
(Mace’s blood pressure skyrockets when Luke off-hand mentions a close familial relationship to Anakin. Yoda and Qui-Gon love Luke regardless. Obi-Wan still thinks that Luke and Quinlan should never meet.)
in fics where luke gets plopped into the prequels i want every jedi within ten metres of him to think hes the weirdest jedi theyve ever seen. he has negative lightsaber form. he doesnt know what a kata is. he handstands when he meditates. his solution to sith is to try and have a chat. hes a political radical who keeps suggesting revolution. you ask him what the jedi code is and he says "kindness and compassion and helping those in need :) ". you ask how he used the force like that and he says some shit about how you are a luminous being limited only by your mind. the councils authority is just a suggestion. he is somehow the new favourite of both qui gon and yoda
#i think he gets yoda in a way few do bc he knew him as a feral old man in a swamp and not guy in charge of everything#so he is yodas new best friend#and qui gon hears him talk for five mins and realises his ideal jedi is a real guy that exists#mace loses his shit when anakin appears and luke casually makes an offhand comment that indicates they’re family#and obi wan thinks luke and quinlan should never meet#(his sanity can’t handle it)#luke skywalker#star wars prequels#mace windu#yoda#qui gon jinn#obi wan kenobi
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Hi! Sorry if there’s a lore doc or something I missed but I saw your new Obi design and the overblot doodles and would love to know the lore! From my understanding, Obi can consume magic? Did he use that to tame overblots? I’m completely enamored by the idea that all these big scary monsters are just hanging out in Ramshackle. Are the house wardens comfortable visiting with them around?
Co-parenting with the manifestation of your childhood trauma is always better with a smoothie.
(LOL there is no lore doc. It's just me cryptically posting about Obi and the phantoms and then bouncing. Thank you for the wonderful opportunity for me to rant about the lore I have bouncing around my brain. Also, I probably should make a tag to make all this lore stay in one place. Rant below the cut (May contain slight spoilers))
Obi and the phantoms:
To answer your first question: Yes, Obi can consume magic. In fact, he needs to consume it to survive. When he consumes magic, they taste like words and information. If he eats a spell, Obi gains an understanding of the spell's nature and effects. Repeated consumption of the same spell can lead to greater revelations. Obi is not totally conscious of this ability, as the information he gains seems to have always existed to him.
Did he use that to tame overblots?
No, the phantoms are not really beings that can be tamed. Obi devoured them during the overblot. And wakes up with a book in his clutches. Said books are how he summons the phantoms once again.
Each phantom takes on a personality and ability separate but similar to their original creator. Some phantoms are more willing than others to be cooperative.
Obi doesn't really mind much. Unwanted creations should stick together. It's better than being alone.
Are the house wardens comfortable visiting with them around?
Some of them are, for some it takes more time to warm up to the idea of the phantoms. After all, its hard to be totally ok with a being born of their worse moments. I can run through some general attitudes.
Riddle: Absolutely terrified at first. But seems dedicated to "educating" his phantom. He comes around a lot. (The phantom loves this)
Leona: Comes by frequently but he does not seem to show a strong interest in his own phantom, brings meat. (The phantom also appears uninterested in its creator, but has been seen curling around leona while he's taking a nap)
Azul: Does not come by at all. (The phantom hates this, but understands)
Jamil: The phantom often seeks Jamil out frequently, seems to have a strong desire to bring gifts to its creator. It is unclear how Jamil feels about this. (Jamil is unsure about this, Kalim loves this)
Vil: The phantom hides from Vil. It is ashamed. (Vil dislikes this, but is trying to coax it out)
Idia: Ortho... sleeps most of the time. He wishes to be near his brother but is often not strong enough to be the dominant desire among them. Idia and Ortho visit frequently they love to play video games together. (Ortho loves this)
Malleus:
(I honestly love coming up with the phantoms and their respective lore so if you're interested to learn more please let me know! Thank you for the questions)
#twisted wonderland#twst#my art#twst oc#twst mc#twst fan art#twst riddle#twst trey#trey clover#riddle rosehearts#twst: obi
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Thinking about missed opportunities in the "Star Wars" prequel trilogy again: it's weird with hindsight that Count Dooku doesn't appear in "The Phantom Menace".
Dooku was a Jedi, so it's perfectly reasonable for him to be at either the Jedi Temple or the Republic Senate when we visit Coruscant in TPM. It would have been easy to move a few things around and include him even as a member of the Jedi Council when initially constructing the films, if you were planning ahead when writing.
As Qui-Gon's former master, Dooku is in the perfect position to ask questions onscreen about Qui-Gon's conviction that he's found the Chosen One and Qui-Gon's decision to put Obi-Wan up for knighthood, both publicly with the Council and privately from a more personal standpoint. Dooku could be used as a tool of interrogation to better lay clear for the audience some of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Anakin's characters, their motivations and fears and their potential flaws. An intimate conversation with his master's master could definitely be used to give Obi-Wan some much-needed character focus and interiority before his climatic fight with Darth Maul.
As the future leader of the Separatists, this is also the ideal point in time to have Dooku act as a voice of criticism, someone who laments both the greed of the Trade Federation and the inaction of the Republic. Dooku could have easily been the representative of the Jedi in the Senate, watching everything, offering grandfatherly sympathy to Padmé Amidala, remarking on the effectiveness of unrestrained power, perhaps even making a warning observation of the dangers of that as Palpatine becomes the new Chancellor. We don't have to see Palpatine and Dooku interact directly, the film could even suggest that Dooku finds this ambitious politician slightly distasteful, but it sets up an explanation for how these two might know each other.
And if we have reason to know and like Master Dooku, then it would actually hurt more when he becomes Count Dooku and betrays both the Jedi Order and the Republic. Even briefly, we could have seen him show frustrated affection and concern for Qui-Gon, give warm advice and praise to Obi-Wan, stand up firmly against the unfairness of the Jedi Council saying Anakin is too old at nine years old. We could have seen Dooku support Padmé in her struggles to make the corrupt Republic take action. We could have seen him as dignified and wise, perhaps one of the only members of the Jedi Council to immediately take the return of the Sith 100% seriously after Maul appears on Tatooine. We could have been made to feel like this experienced, slightly embittered, but righteous older man was the only one "speaking the truth" here.
It really wouldn't have taken all that much shuffling and reassignment plotwise to add him in as a supporting character.
We would feel intrigued at the beginning of "Attack of Clones" when we learn that Count Dooku has left the Jedi Order after Qui-Gon's death. We could see Anakin and Obi-Wan briefly exchange lines about how they miss Master Dooku as well as Qui-Gon (there is already an exchange in the films where they state they miss Qui-Gon), and how they haven't seen or heard from him in some time now. Anakin could suggest that Dooku is hunting down the Sith Master; Obi-Wan could counter with how Master Dooku has simply returned to his life on Serenno, which he couldn't have as a Jedi Master, which Anakin casually calls unfair and he suggests that Dooku can do far greater good as a powerful count (a parallel to Anakin's marriage to Padmé and own Fall). Dooku being established earlier in the trilogy would better highlight how he and Obi-Wan went completely separate directions after Qui-Gon's death.
And again, the reveal that Dooku has Fallen would hurt so much more, if we had actually seen him be affectionate and righteous and wise. If we had any point of comparison for how Dooku's embittered desire for peace and justice has been warped into the pursuit of control and tyranny. It would hurt to see that formerly good man sentence Padmé to death as "just politics, my dear".
"This will start a war!" Padmé tells the man who helped her help her people once.
"I know," Dooku replies, with ominous satisfaction.
It would hurt to see Obi-Wan beg Dooku to stop this (a prelude to him begging Anakin in the next movie: "Anakin, please, I cannot lose you too!"), only for Dooku to attack and nearly kill him when Obi-Wan refuses to join him. It would hurt to see this grandfatherly figure cut off Anakin's hand, someone he knew and was kind to as a child. Seeing where Dooku fell from would also make everything about his fight with Yoda hurt more as well. We wouldn't have seen Dooku's struggles directly, offscreen in the time skip between TPM and AOTC, but this Fall would help prepare us for witnessing Anakin's Fall onscreen in "Revenge of the Sith", illustrate for us how power and grief corrupts, how the desire to take complete control and "start over" corrupts.
And all of this would also make Dooku's death in ROTS hurt more: to see Anakin execute an unarmed, injured man who had once been kind to him, who had once had good intentions a long, long time ago. We could have even had Dooku perhaps try to warn Anakin about Sidious, as the fear cuts through him as he realizes Sidious has betrayed him, only for Anakin to kill Dooku out of anger (Dooku is responsible for so much death, Palpatine reminds Anakin) just before the ruined man can finish speaking. Dooku's former goodness underlines Anakin's arrogance in thinking that his own fate will be any different.
The novelizations of the prequel films and other extended universe materials build up an image of Dooku's life as a Jedi and his Fall for us. We can assume and imagine a lot. We can retroactively apply knowledge gleaned from "The Clone Wars" with Dooku as a major villain. But ultimately, Dooku as a more sympathetic and emotionally relevant character is just not in the films.
When "Attack of the Clones" reveals to us: "Oh, no! Dooku has betrayed the Jedi Order and the Republic!" I think that most of the audience is like: "Gonna be real with you, chief, I have no idea who that is."
He's only been mentioned before once maybe? In Palpatine's office? Master Mundi assures Palpatine that Dooku is a good man (or something like that), but we have seen no evidence of this ourselves. This line mostly just becomes really funny on a rewatch, rather than poignant, because the prequel films audience only ever gets to see Count Dooku as a Sith Lord and rather underdeveloped villain. We don't ever get to see him be a "good guy" first. We're told but not shown.
The audience has no solid reason to care that Dooku specifically has betrayed the Order, as opposed to any random Jedi, because we haven't seen him before at all, much less interacting with any of our protagonists or establishing himself as an opinionated player within the story. Which is a shame! Because he has strong opinions that stand in interesting ideological conflict with so many other characters, generating fun and dramatic exchanges! He has direct connections to and parallels with other characters! He's potentially a really useful storytelling tool within these films, and his character just doesn't get used to that full tragic potential.
In conclusion...? I wish I'd actually been sad when Dooku betrayed everyone and died at Anakin's hand, instead of mostly just confused and then vaguely pitying. I want to see some of the love between characters beforehand, so that it hurts more effectively when that love turns to hate.
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“We asked for a chance to defeat the Sith, and we failed."
This is what Kanan tells Ezra when Ezra asks why Yoda sent them to Malachor, and it haunts me. They asked for a chance, and Yoda gives them one, and they fail. And after that, as far as I can tell? Yoda writes them off. Yoda never appears to them after Malachor; Obi-Wan, when Ezra turns up on Tatooine, tells him "You're in the wrong place," refuses to help the Rebellion, and sends him home. All Yoda and Obi-Wan's eggs are in one basket, and that basket is labeled "Luke." Kanan and Ezra are on their own.
It would be so easy for them to give up. They're not the chosen ones; they failed their test. Who could blame them?
But they don't. Kanan works through his depression, Ezra comes back from the dark, and they keep fighting. It doesn't matter that they'll never defeat the Sith. It doesn't matter that the battles they fight are insignificant on the galaxy-wide scale, that no one really cares about Lothal except them and their friends. It doesn't matter that the structure of the Star Wars franchise means they'll never even be a footnote to history; by A New Hope, no one will remember them.
What matters is that the fight is worth fighting, so they're going to give it all they have.
This is why I love Rebels, and all the other bits of Star Wars sandwiched between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. We have lots of stories, as a culture, about people who vanquish evil; we don't have nearly as many that valorize people who fight battles they can't win. We watch these shows and play these games knowing that the protagonists won't defeat Vader or the Empire, knowing they're living in the wrong place and the wrong time, and we learn to care anyway. We learn that even impossible fights are worth fighting, that every skirmish matters even when they're not what wins the war.
We need more media like that. Because most of us are never going to be the ones who strike the final blow (if a final blow even exists) against climate change, or bigotry, or whatever battle we're fighting. And it is so easy to give up hope, and so important to remember that the struggle matters, even when you fail.
#star wars#star wars rebels#kanan jarrus#ezra bridger#twilight of the apprentice#i just have a lot of feels about my favorite jedi okay
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