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incorrectmahabharatquotes · 6 months ago

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i love the incorrect quotes, but i dont agree with your political views. if its not much, could you explain why ur so anti bjp?(thats what i assume anyway)

You know, I actually think that the memes and the quotes are sort of a natural extension of our political views. I'll explain but it might get a little long. Stay with me here.

Firstly, I want to say that I think this way of perceiving politics is so fundamentally wrong.

"Anti-BJP", "Pro-BJP", "Anti-Congress", "pro-congress" etc etc. This isn't a cricket match where you're rooting for your favourite team. Politicians, as a general rule, are a bunch of liars. They lie to gain power and control. It's OUR duty, as CITIZENS, to keep them accountable and in their lane so they actually do their goddamn jobs. That's how the democracy is supposed to work. If they don't do their job properly, you vote them out of the seat. They work for us, and not the other way around.

In India, we grow up with this idea of not questioning your elders. Papa ne keh diya, bas keh diya. As children our natural instinct of curiosity and inquisitiveness is stifled. We go to schools and the same pattern follows. Don't question the authority. Keep your head down and colour inside the lines. We internalise this lesson to colossal degrees. Is it any wonder that we all struggle with critical thinking? If you're spoonfed "the correct answer" your entire life, you never learn to find if what you were told is correct or not. This exact thing is used by all politicians across the entire political spectrum. They use our learned behaviour of deferring to authority and never questioning power against us. The leader of the country becomes the patriarch. Papa ne keh diya, bas keh diya.

I have various issues with various political parties in India, in fact. I have no love lost for any of them. I don't exactly believe in unconditional loyalty to politicians.

Since you brought up the BJP, let's talk about that. My biggest issue with them is their politics of communal hatred. All they keep yapping about is hindu-muslim this and hindu-muslim that. For what? They could spend their time talking about actual issues but the low-hanging fruit of stoking communal hatred is easier to grab onto. Remember when the British did the same thing? It was bad then and it's bad now. All this unrest just to get votes. Imagine fucking up the mind of an entire nation like this and then demanding to be praised for it.

Their foundational roots are from the RSS and that entire organisation's existence is just insane to me. It's even more insane that they managed to go from a fringe ideology to becoming mainstream. "Hindu rashtra", it seems. Who even wants that? WHY do they want that? Is it such a bad fate to live in peace and harmony with other religions? A lot of their talking points are about how much they hate the islamic nations and how those are horrible and then they want to turn around and do the same thing?!? Is the hypocrisy not clear? So what if other countries are religious states? Why can't we try to be different? Maybe I'M the stupid one for thinking all humans are the same that we should treat everyone the same. Who knows.

There are also a bunch of other issues that the BJP has racked up during their rule. The demonetisation disaster, mismanagement of government funds to create public infrastructure, letting the interests of billionaire business ruin PROTECTED FOREST AREAS for mining coal that they didn't even need, introducing and passing HORRIBLE bills through the parliament without any thought or discussion, literally ignoring the plight of people dying in riots, CORRUPTION, destroying the public sector and letting for-profit capitalists free reign in a country which has practically no proper labour laws, aiding in creating a historical record of INCOME INEQUALITY that is higher than it was during the fucking colonial era, fucking up the press even more somehow to the point where they control all of the media houses.

This is not even scratching the surface. I could keep going.

My issue is not whether people vote for the BJP or not. Even if you like the BJP, my issue is that people seem willing to turn a blind eye to all the issues with the government and not even hold them accountable for it.

Vote for whoever you want. My only request is to keep your government accountable. Keep the power in check. The politicians should be SCARED of the citizens fury if they do something wrong. They shouldn't be free to do whatever and get off scot free.

That's our political stance, really. It's Pro-Exercise-Your-Democratic-Rights-As-Citizen.

We will always encourage others to be wary of people with too much power.

Now coming back to why I said the memes reflect our political stance, it's because it's obvious to see why we happen to be willing to risk being a little critical of a literary text. You have to be a little transgressive, in a sense. Perfect obedience and perfect reverence stifles people from engaging with something to their full potential.

I'm sorry to say that if you enjoy the memes and the quotes, you are also being a little transgressive like us. You're also questioning the authority of a religion to an extent. Perhaps our political leanings aren't as different as you might believe.

-Mod S

#asks #ask reply #mod replies #mod: s #indpol #indian politics

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ranijaisichaal · 10 months ago

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Indians on tumblr!!!!! I just found out something and i want to know yall's thoughts. I need to know if I'm the only one thinking about this, and im NOT going to mention this to my family. Help a girl out pls lovelies <333

So at the dinner table today, my dad said the government was making it mandatory to register live-in relationships now, and that not registering your relationship could result in a 6-month jail penalty or something. And at first I was like huh - they're trying to police us again, huh - but then stopped to think, and decided to research instead.

Now, this here is a Times of India article from a few hours ago.✨

In short, the Uttarakhand CM tabled the Uniform Civil Code (UCC) bill in the Uttarakhand assembly this morning. And one part from the 192-page bill is devoted to looking at live-in relationships as a legal entity. The bill was approved on Sunday, and tabled today.

And this made me SO HAPPY, because FINALLY. We're finally making some progress as a society. The Indian law has taken the first step in recognising two people living together without getting married, yet reaping the legal benefits - an unmarried partner will be a legal entity, legally counting as a loved one (provided they are over 21). Moreover, a couple that's living together but not married can legally have kids, and not face any discrimination in the eyes of the law. And not only that, but in case of a break-up (which also needs to be procedurally filed with the authorities), the woman is entitled to maintenance. I quote from the article:

CM Dhami said, “It is a historic moment for each one of us. Let us all have a lengthy and healthy discussion to bring uniformity in the society.”

This is wonderful! It's such a progressive measure.

But what caught my eye was the final paragraph from the article.

Leader of opposition Yashpal Arya said, "We fail to understand the logic behind the urgency being shown by the BJP government. They expect us to read such a lengthy document speedily and start the discussion. It looks like the government is trying to hide something."

At first that seemed like a classic political counterattack, but it got me thinking. Why indeed the urgency?

And then I realised - what if - what if - it is now legalised for queer couples in Uttarakhand to register live-on relationships and basically reap all the benefits of a legally recognised marriage? They haven't explicitly mentioned the queer community anywhere, but it's possible, right? We know the Supreme Court refused to give marriage rights to non-heterosexual couples last year (see here); but if this is presented as an option to queer couples instead, they can secure all the rights of a traditional marriage with a different kind of registration? It is, after all, not illegal to get into long-term homosexual relationships. I know it isn't perfect, but if they allow homosexual live-in relationships, then it's at least a step in the right direction?

I'm not very well-versed with this, so I'm turning to the only relatively safe space I can think of - desis on tumblr. Is it possible that this could happen, that queer relationship recognition could be an ulterior agenda? Is it really as progressive as I think it is? I'm curious, and so hopeful! Any and all discussion is welcome - what do y'all think?🫶

P.S. let me know if there are any more tags I should add for this to reach more people!

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meetdheeraj · 4 months ago

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Rape is a rape. It is a crime. Who commits it, where it is committed should hardly matter for you to speak out against a rape. But speaking about every rape is not humanly possible. Some 100 rapes occur in India every day. India is a beautiful and culturally rich country. We have so many gods and goddesses. Goddesses we worship every year. But we have a system. We refuse to talk about certain rapes. Rape has to be gruesome or rapist has to be from certain mileu for us to care enough to talk about it. So when Chief Justice of India (highest judge of a highest court) is alleged to have molested his staff, we maintain silent. Oh the judge then sits on his own case and clears himself. We maintain sweet silent. He is then given Rajyasabha seat by RSS-BJP govt. Absolutely silent. I know I know. You don't follow news and so you didn't know. Now you do. Will you talk now? Did you not know of Bilkis and her rapists and murderers? Oh you only speak about hospitals? How gruesomely were doctors killed in Gaza.. Oh that's geopolitical now, you only talk about local I see. I like you already.

Rapes don't happen because of harmones. They happen because how men perceive women. Women, in our religious books and in our culture, have no value. There purpose is to reproduce. They're not seen as humans that get hurt or experience emotions. Even if they act up, it's because it's that time of month. Everything boils down to reproductive system. It is okay to rape women during wars. I can quote half a dozen examples of gods raping/molesting women here but what's the point? Many of you are speaking about this case for political gains and so are refusing to have conversations that are at heart of why men think it is okay to rape women. Patriarchy manifests in many subtle ways. It is on most days not direct.

#rape #india #politics #violence #kolkata

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warningsine · 3 months ago

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https://www.reuters.com/world/india/protesters-block-train-tracks-buses-eastern-india-2024-08-28/

KOLKATA, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Thousands of protesters blocked train tracks, halted buses and shouted slogans in India's state of West Bengal on Wednesday in the latest demonstration following the brutal rape and murder of a trainee doctor.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which is in opposition in the eastern state, called for a 12-hour state-wide protest strike after police fired tear gas and water cannon to disperse a march on Tuesday.

Most of Wednesday's protesters were BJP workers, who also forced shops to shut, as authorities braced for more disruptions, with one police official saying 5,000 officers had been deployed to quell any violence.

Thousands of doctors, many of them on strike since the Aug. 9 crime was discovered, marched in the state's capital of Kolkata, demanding justice for the victim and better workplace safety for doctors.

"If the state government had powers to make laws, I would have made a law in seven days that would mandate capital punishment in incidents of rape," Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee told a rally.

Banerjee, a staunch political foe of Modi who has promised swift justice, appealed to the striking doctors to return to work, expressing sympathy for victims of sexual violence and their families.

Many university students were among Tuesday's protesters, who had called for Banerjee's resignation over her handling of the rape and murder of the 31-year-old doctor in a government-run hospital in Kolkata.

Indian President Droupadi Murmu said she was "dismayed and horrified" by the incident.

"No civilised society can allow daughters and sisters to be subjected to such atrocities," broadcaster CNN News 18 quoted Murmu, a constitutional figurehead, as telling news agency PTI in her first comments on the crime. "Enough is enough."

The nationwide outrage unleashed by the attack was similar to that which followed the 2012 gang-rape of a 23-year-old student on a moving bus in New Delhi, but campaigners said tougher laws had not deterred sexual violence against women.

#india #protests #politics

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shut-up-rabert · 1 year ago

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okay I have to vent, you can ignore this ask but I would love it if you gave your opinions on the topic. Hindublr lately seems to be filled with spam tagged #casteism and other things wherein the entire religion or culture is reduced to just caste atrocities. I blocked some but it is like new accounts spring up everyday. Hindublr isn't a politics tag? Atleast it wasn't when I first joined tumblr. Also these blogs are full of blatant hindu hate and somehow they equate being an orthodox hindu as being a bjp supporter? Like if you call them out on their misinformation they start calling you andhbhakt even if the context had nothing to do with bjp? Modi hate or Yogi hate is so blatant. Like these blogs aren't even talking about actual problems. They spread misinformation most of the times. Like yk in one of your answers on that one blog that was regarding Congress sending army to kashmir.

Half baked knowledge, "saviour of the dalits" complex and Hindu hate is all they offer. I am all for talking about genuine discrimination that goes on in our society but it must be based on facts rather than artificial hysteria and emotion driven ideologies.

Honestly, call me a hypocrite because I use the hindublr tag for political stuff relating to hindus aswell , but I will admit that the tag of Hindublr is not for Hindu hate, its for hindus to engage.

Blogs like not-so-sweet61 and others following her trail are truly going out of their way to spread hate about us. Their motive for tagging is not to spread awareness, because their manner of presenting is vehemently anti Hindu (as you said, half baked facts) , and what they do is not spreading awareness either; they are doing a sham act of defaming the religion in the name of “calling out the bad practices” by bringingthe character of Shri Ram and others into question.

And before people call me out for being a propagandist and all, the sweet61 is not someone who is calling out ill treatment of Dalits that I am too much of an andhbhakt to see, this person is a muslim calling out Hindu Gods. I had an altercation with her during the infancy of this blog, and skimmed through hers to find Sufi quotations and other Islam related stuff that has most likely been removed as of now becuase I can no longer find it.

That put things in perispective for y’all?

Also, cherry on the cake, she’s a congressi, girl legit quoted Sonia Gandhi on section 377 like it was not Congress under whose command it was reinstated🤡 So yeah, ofcourse theres andhbhakt comments and equating shit to BJP.

They are not saviours of dalits, they are not champions of minority. These are people of other faiths targetting us systematically, maybe because of the non left alignment of people who use the hindublr tag.

And another thing? Hindublr tag is used by Hindus ourselves, like I said, for engaging with each other on religion related stuff. For those not of the faith, they use hinduism tag. The specific use is for us so these people are using the tag on purpose to get our attention.

Nothing more, nothing else.

#hindublr #oh the irony #hinduism #hinduphobia

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fairuzfan · 1 year ago

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https://www.tumblr.com/chrollosdiary/730886541540491264/whats-especially-vile-in-all-this-is-that?source=share

That guy who is sharing is most likely a sanghi too (an virulent islamophobe from the rss/bjp).

While you are correct, I want to give you an additional context: that there were identical situations against indian Muslim women in Gujarat riots of 2002 and that man is very likely stealing/misrepresenting those horrors on the internet. (Anyone can check the Wikipedia on the atrocities of Gujarat riots)

Never trust a sanghi or a right wing Indian account.

I thought when you originally sent this you were talking about the quote retweet and was INCREDIBLY confused about how you could tell about the quoter but I understand what you mean now.

Thank you so much for the context and additional information. I'll be reblogging the original post with a link to this ask.

#thanks for sending it in

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denimbex1986 · 1 year ago

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'Two weeks ago, on a Sunday, I literally ran out of my six-hour Patient Care Technician shift to watch "Oppenheimer," Christopher Nolan's biopic starring Cilian Murphy as the Manhattan Project scientist, J. Robert Oppenheimer. In ninth grade, I had the opportunity to interview Dr. Benjamin Bederson, who was a bomb switch operator for the Manhattan project, so the inner high school history nerd in me was ready to be enthralled by the movie of the summer.

However, the iconic and controversial "Gita" sex scene where grad student Jean Tatlock (Florence Pugh) descends on Oppenheimer had me literally running out of the room faster than I ran out of my job to watch it in the first place. In this scene, the two sleep together for the first time following a communist party gathering. Midway through intercourse, Jean picks up a bound copy of the Hindu scripture "Bhagavad Gita" from Oppenheimer's bookshelf, and asks him to read from it – where we get the foreboding quote, "Now I become death, the destroyer of worlds" – before proceeding with the act as he continues to read. Although the film has received rave reviews, this scene has garnered immense criticism from Hindu nationalist group, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), for its insertion of religious scripture into sexual intercourse.

Disclaimer: I started squirming in my seat during the scene and spent a good 10 minutes afterwards in the bathroom stall, calming myself down. Then I bought a blue Icee and ran back in to watch the rest.

The scene, although uncomfortable, was mind-opening. All of a sudden my present started to articulate my past forward as I was transported out of the movie theater and into my eighth grade health classroom. Today's topic: the forms of sex. All three forms – as my teacher called it. As someone who didn't even know that sex existed until that moment, I immediately started twisting in my chair and had to leave the room as the teacher's descriptions got more and more detailed. My mind could not handle the fact that two people could crave touching each other's private parts out of choice or out of adoration. But several of my classmates were unfazed. And several of them laughed at my reaction for weeks.

At that point, I knew I had to change. I had to take initiative to learn what my parents had always avoided discussing with me. So, I started reading "Game of Thrones" and its fanfiction to educate myself. And lots of it. By the time I had finished high school and college, I had read so much of it that I thought I had numbed my mind to sexual thought and literary depiction. But that "Oppenheimer" Gita sex scene told me differently.

When I saw it on screen, I still could not handle it.

Growing up in a conservative Indian American household in the midwestern United States, I never heard from my parents discussions about certain bodily actions seen as "obscene" or taboo and why society perceived them in that way. I'd never seen them even kiss each other in front of my sister and me. I never had a person who could talk candidly with me about embarrassing or scary changes in my body and make them no longer seem so mysterious and foreign. After that revelatory eighth grade sexual health education class, there were questions that I was dying to ask but knew it was not OK to ask my mom or dad. To them, there was no comedy nor beauty in discussing sex and sexuality, especially when they were starting from scratch with someone like me, who was on the brink of puberty but still had many gaps in her knowledge. I wondered why my parents always shied away from this topic – even when it is something so deeply human and important.

"You don't have to know these things. The more you know about it, the more you will want to jump in earlier," my mom would say. "I don't know why they teach these things to kids so early in this country."

Two years later, in 10th grade world history class, I was a raging "Game of Thrones" fan who had read almost every Sansa/Tyrion fanfic on the internet (including the rated M for mature ones). We were learning about ancient India, and my favorite teacher of all time told us something that shocked me more than the Oppenheimer scene: that early Indian civilization was a pioneer in and center of sexual desire.

Across the whiteboard he had written in all caps these words: KAMA SUTRA.

"Do you know what this is," he yelled across the room to the whole class. "Anyone? How about you, Sibani?"

I was the only Indian American student in my high school class. I honestly and vigorously shook my head. I worshiped this man on many levels, but I sincerely did not know the answer to his question. I was also embarrassed that I didn't know about this supposedly very important text from my own culture.

"This is a book . . . about sex," he continued. "All the different positions and the ways to enjoy them. And it originated in INDIA."

I felt my face flush. My parents had ensured that I watch re-enacted versions of the Indian epics of Mahabharata and Ramayana on our tiny TV screen in my small Iowan midwestern town. My late grandmother had ensured that I learned how to speak my native language TamiI, and my parents pushed me to retain that. They put me through Carnatic singing lessons over the phone to help me better connect with my heritage and culture. Yet, they had conveniently chosen not to mention this uncomfortable but fascinating truth about the book of sex originating in India.

That day, I went home and scoured the internet. And what my genius of a world history teacher had told me was beyond true. It turned out that I did not have to even turn to the internet, but rather had to dig back into my own memories of visiting temples across South India during my summers and sometimes seeing their walls adorned with near-naked female idols. When visiting, I remember being a bit surprised that these sculptures were not taken down by the conservative Indian communities that surrounded them. However, history reveals that the communities that initially surrounded the sculptures may have been ones where sex and spirituality were united, not untied.

For example, the seven-foot-tall Sathyamurthi Perumal Temple in my motherland of Tamil Nadu, India features detailed and sacred architecture depicting intercourse. In fact, these structures are protected by the Archeological Survey of India. This is not a standalone example. The juxtaposition of sexuality and sanctity can be seen in Hindu temples ranging from the Sun Temple in Gujarat to the Jain temples of Rajasthan to the Virupaksha temple in Karnataka – all located in India.

Early India's fascination with sex is not limited to architecture but also spills over into literature beyond the "Kama Sutra." While the major Hindu epics "Mahabharata" and "Ramayana" are certainly not as pornographic as "Game of Thrones," these ancient religious epics are far from devoid of the depictions of sexual pleasure. The pages contain stories of great sages committed to abstinence, who could resist everything but the temptations of sex. Draupadi, a pivotal character in "Mahabharata" and powerful example of polyandry, simultaneously keeps and sleeps with five husbands. Hindu scripture is not devoid of sexual exposure. In fact, the "Gita "that Oppenheimer invests his mind in is derived from a scene in the "Mahabharata."

When my mom sent me an article on the Hindu nationalists' criticism of the questionable sex scene in "Oppenheimer," I immediately defended the Western approach to sex.

"The difference between the Western world and the Indian one is that the Western one can own up to human temptations and sins, versus in India, we like to hide from what makes us human anyway. Just remember that India – not USA – was the earliest erotic place in the world where a so-called 'book' originated. Read beyond headlines," I wrote in response.

However, I now realize that my scathing response – while it is not fully false – lacks sensitivity. The "Gita" is a sacred text. While it does encourage sex for procreation, it discourages sex for pleasure. I do not agree with that principle in the "Gita" (isn't sex called making love for a reason?), but I do think Nolan crossed the line a bit. Just a bit. But only a bit.

Even if the scene made me very uncomfortable, walking through Hindu temples trying to recite prayers and seeing naked copulation sculptures has also made me very uncomfortable. So, when the Hindu nationalist BJP calls the scene a "disturbing attack on Hinduism" that "wages a war on the Hindu community," that is not at all accurate either. The earliest Hindus saw sex as a soul of their religion and culture. Maybe that is not how things are today, but as a Hindu woman myself, history and religion calls upon me to pursue the truth. The truth is that sex was a characteristic of early Hindu civilizations in a way that was arguably more explicit than any scene in "Oppenheimer." The truth is that my parents and several of my Indian American friends' parents unfortunately often avoid this reality. The truth is that Nolan saw the raw sexual stuff of life as text to be read, art to be created and conversation to be generated. If anything, this scene pays tribute to the reality that several sacred Hindu spaces – even if this excludes the "Bhagavad Gita" itself – do indeed sing of the sexual.

To all Hindus in this world – including the BJP – let's not be angry and offended. We've not earned the right to be given the past. Instead, let's invite a responsible dialogue about what history can teach us about our own religion. And then, we can talk about how we would like for that religion to be accurately represented.'

#Oppenheimer #Christopher Nolan #Bhagavad Gita #Jean Tatlock #Florence Pugh #Cillian Murphy #Game of Thrones

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odnewsin · 12 days ago

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Manipur Violence & Politics: Why NPP’s Conrad Sangma Broke Alliance With BJP Govt?

A big shocker is now added to the ongoing Manipur violence. NPP, the national people’s party withdrew its support from the BJP-led Manipur government. The Conrad Sangma-led National People’s Party posted an official letter, expressing “deep concern” over the prevailing law and order situation in the state. The letter was directed to BJP national president JP Nadda, NPP said and we quote “the…

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mdctiindia · 2 years ago

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incorrectmahabharatquotes · 4 months ago

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Hi sorry I have to disagree. I don't know about your state but where I'm from the candidates aren't local people and half the time they are away. One person representing your issues in parliament is a myth 90 percent of the time. The prime minister and his party's decisions have more direct weight in my daily life than my representative's who at the end of the day does what is convenient to his party. This is the sad reality of this country unfortunately. I don't like Congress and Rahul either but he's much lesser of the two evils. The country is at a crisis. We owe it to our non-hindu friends and neighbors to vote with responsibility and not compromise their safety. Let's face facts - Mamata or Kejriwal is not going to win and voting for them or other regional parties will only divide the opposition vote which is exactly how BJP won last time.

I'm SUPER late in answering this ask, sorry. But also actually very timely in the sense that my point was proven in the Lok Sabha elections.

BJP and Congress aren't your only options. They can try to peddle us the lie that they are but that's simply not true. For the most part, politics in this country plays out on a HIGHLY localised scale, which means the gigantic homogeneity of national parties' agendas really doesn't hold up practically. Other parties exist, INDEPENDENT candidates exist(and a few even won, which I'm extremely happy to see).

It was also a very interesting election cycle because even though the BJP did eventually form the majority in the Lok sabha, they had to SCROUNGE for it. Far different from the "400 paar" narrative they were selling. And now we're at the point where we've returned to the norm of having a coalition government. Make no mistake, a one party majority government was an anomaly. The present is still unfolding and we don't know what will happen next but we can see the cracks forming inside the BJP party doors as well. We still have the state elections of several legislative assemblies upcoming so we'll see how the parties perform.

My state(Uttar Pradesh) did a very funny thing in the Lok Sabha elections and is directly responsible for the BJP NOT getting a majority. Which is very interesting since we had to live through a decade of people flattening the politics here to the "cow belt" stuff and basically writing it off entirely. Just goes to show that nothing is written in stone, after all.

My biggest hope is that what this election did is remind people that their vote actually did matter, at the end of the day.

-Mod S, dedicating this one to the anon who loves the quotes but hates our political opinions

#ask reply #mod replies #indpol #indian politics #asks #mod: s

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