#Ash's Pjo rambles

[ashthenerd]

Dionysus

Dionysus had so much trauma. He was gaslight about his gender for the start of his life, Hera drove his parents past the brink of sanity, he's lost so many kids and he's seen as "the drunk" He is the most human of the gods, maybe because he started off as a human. He played an active role in rasing his kids, he directly disobeyed Zeus' orders after the battle of the Labrynth because his son, his baby had just been murdered, and he had 1 child left and Zeus be fucked, he was going to make sure that he's okay. He has been traumatised so much and he didn't know how to deal with it so he makes sure that this generation deals with it safely, he makes sure that Nico eats, because he is a child that needs to grow and it is so important for his health, and he makes sure that it doesn't fall to Will, because even though he pretends that he's okay, Will is far from it, and Dionysus helps him without pushing it, he takes some of the weight of off his shoulders, he sits him down for talks when he's overwhelmed by everything with the infirmary, and his dad and the new campers, because he gives a fuck. He may be brash and a bit of a dick, but he isn't going to let another child be traumatised the way that he was, and he's going to try his hardest to keep these kids stable, he might not get your name right (because he has to *try* to distance himself or he will fall apart because he can't watch another child he cares about die) but he will talk you through a panic attack, give you a drink and he will make sure that nobody pressures you to act like a human again until you feel ready.

[ashthenerd]

PJO FANDOM I'M LOOKING AT YOU!!! REYNA IS CANONICALLY AROACE SO STOP CALLING HER A LESBIAN AND SHIPPING HER LEFT RIGHT AND CENTER

I wish people would let aroace characters be aroace

[ashoss]

god i just realized how similar my jason todd and percy jackson designs are LMAO

[thebigbroodingyellowtulip]

okay so I may or may not have started reading the last Olympian at 11 o'clock. and finished it three hours later. BUT FREAKING HELL!!!! that part when Thalia Annabeth Grover and Percy follow Luke/Kronos in the throne room and Annabeth almost falls and Percy catches her and he says something like "I wasn't going to let her fall" (he doesn't say exactly that's but that's what it means). But she does fall! in mark of Athena! and he falls with her!!!!! anyway that just made my heart go ahdkagskagskhsksgd but in a sad way. and the "and it was pretty much the best underwater kiss of all times". like??? so perfect!!!!!

also I'm dealing exhausted and sad and nostalgic and i DID NOT want it to end but at the same time I wanted to read it all the time. so yeah, my heart is in ten thousand million pieces right now

[ashthenerd]

Trans masc Darren. He wasn't on T yet because he was still competing in the Olympics, so he ended up pregnant.

He took a break from his career to raise Kayla, and also because of mental health struggles that got worse than ever before during the pregnancy.

He loved Kayla to bits and she loved him, but they never had an ideal relationship. So when she was 11 and things got really bad between them, he sent her to Camp, so they could get a bit of distance. When she was at Camp, he returned to the Olympics as a coach (he didn't have the energy to navigate the shit that trans athletes face)

After Kayla being gone for 8 months (she left in Dec) he tried to convince her to come back home, but it was a week after Manhattan. Kayla was furious at the world and a mess. She blamed herself for not being able to save her siblings. She was terrified of losing anyone else, and was convinced that if she went back to Canada, she would get her dad killed.

Darren tried to convince her that he could protect himself and her if any monsters came near them, he was an Olympic archery champion after all. But Michael was twice as good, and Michael was dead. Kayla freaked, terrified beyond words at the possibility of her dad dying, it had been a week since she had seen her divine family go from over a dozen to 3, and she couldn't take any more loss. So she screamed at him to stay the fuck away from her, as many hurtful declarations as she could think of, to make sure that he wouldn't want to see her, she would rather her dad hate her, than have to bury him.

Darren kept trying to get back in contact but Kayla ghosted him, and he had no clue why. He tried to IM Michael (her -now dead head counsel) , but got no reply, so he tried Will (her new counsellor, but Darren didn't know). Will had to explain what happened in Manhattan, despite how much it hurt and made him feel physically sick.

Darren was horrified that his little girl had to go through that (he tried to comfort Will too) but he realised why Kayla didn't want to be around him, and chose to respect that, she had enough to cope with. But that couldn't change the fact that he was her dad, so he got weekly updates on her from Will, and sat in the back of the crowd at every single one of her archery competitions, where she wouldn't see him, but he could still see his daughter (even if from a distance) in her element, cheering for her 'till he went hoarse.

When communications went down, he was a mess, daily panic attacks and a serious self-harm relapse that ended up with him in the hospital. When he was discharged, he drove straight to Camp (it is amazing that he didn't get pulled over with how many traffic laws he broke). He ran straight into the border, which got the attention of Austin, who was on a walk with Malcom (definitely not pushing an AustinxMalcom agenda😉) Darren was sobbing hysterically, begging to know whether Kayla was still alive. He was immediately assured that she was fine.

When Kayla escaped the Grove of Dodonna, she decided that she couldn't die without making things right with her dad, the first thing that she did when communications went back up, was call him, they spent so long talking that she used up her whole allowance and most of Will's (which he volunteered). They agreed to give living together another shot and Kayla went back to Canada for the school year, there were definitely adjustments, but they made it through.

This may have spiralled a bit. Sorry😂

uhh, so you know....

Kayla Knowles, the daughter of Apollo from Riordanverse, has two dads...

Apollo(the god) and Darren Knowles(the human)

How do you guys think Kayla was born?

[silvery-stars]

would it be sacrilege of me to say that i am kinda hashtag Underwhelmed by the percy jackson show

[ashemellow]

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[happyk44]

what if Neptune had two types of children — light children personifying the father as the god of the earth and fresh water and dark children personifying the father as the god of the merciless sea and earthquake?

The idea doesn't belong to me! here is this post from anonymous. —https://www.tumblr.com/goblinwithartsupplies/729000820113276928/children-of-neptune-with-dead-eyes-the-color-of?source=share

I just became interested in your opinion.

Note: I wrote way more than I thought I did so apologies for the length and related deviations from the Neptune part 😂 but summarized version is basically, yes, I think that's a great concept. The kinder fresh water kids are likely infrequently born compared to their more destructive siblings because of the way PJO canon has the modern day Romans think of Neptune as this eldritch terror. So the fresh water aspect is not as appreiated and thus not as prevalent when a kid is born.

Because demigods are basically representatives of their parents for the mortal plane, you know? So, yes, they will represent the various aspects their parent has. They will be able to control the aspects that they don't favour. So the fresh water kids will be able to control salt water and create hurricanes, but these things are little bit more difficult for them than it is for their siblings who favour the destructive side.

The destructive ocean kids can make rain, can find fresh water in the earth or pull it out of other liquids. But it's more difficult for them.

But anyway, rambling aside, yes, I agree 100%. See the read more for my initial babblings.

I think that's a really good take - especially since we already have a split in Hazel taking the brunt of jewels and gems and earth versus Nico's much more prolific hold on death. Arguably we could say Jason is more law and order, justice and judgement, and Thalia is more the expanse of the sky, lightning and thunder and clouds. But we don't know much about Thalia's skills or proficiency with powers. And the way she's represented when we do see her, indicates that she more favours the leadership king of the gods aspect of her dad.

I remember so little of TTC other than the general facts of events, but I do remember that she argued with Percy and Zoe about certain decisions, and then immediately got elected as Artemis's right hand man even though she's still fresh from the tree and only just joined the group. Lmao, imagine someone joining the army but instead of coming in as a Private or whatever the starting rank is, they immediately go to General.

But anyway yeah, that's why I would argue Thalia favours that aspect of her father, where Jason has stated that he never wanted to be a leader so that is definitely not an aspect of his dad that he favours instinctually.

And yes - these are more of a Roman/Greek split 😂 but look I'm working with what I got, okay?

For kids in the same pantheon, I think in PJO canon, probably in the Apollo books or Nico's book, it's stated that the Apollo kids often have different strengths (because the man has ADHD and could not settle on one thing, should be elected the god of hobbies) - certain kids are more medical, others are more artistic, the rest are best at archery. So there's that too!

In my headcanons, I envision Bianca being much more proficient at shadows and darkness and inflicting nightmares (ala Melinoe 🙌 but also Hades 👍) compared to Nico's proficiency with death and ghosts and traveling through dreams. He can't force anything the way Bianca can, but she is also much less sensitive to death and souls than he is. Shadowtravel takes a lot more effort for him than for her, but he can touch a person and have them shrivel up into ash and empty clothes without the effort killing him. She wouldn't have recovered as well from ghostifying Bryce.

People see their worst nightmares when Bianca pins them with a look. They see their death when it's Nico. With Hazel, they probably see themselves being crushed by the earth or something, idk, but she also has the spooky Underworld child stare!

So yes! I think in PJO canon, it starts off with the life-giving children as Neptune starts off as god of fresh water. Then the destructive kids come in as he becomes conflated with Poseidon and the (PJO canon) Romans develop a dislike and distrust of the sea. As that distrust continues to grow into what we have in modern day PJO canon, most of the kids come out cruel and dark-hearted as Neptune himself shifts more to settle with popular belief.

I have a similar thought process with Zeus' children! Yes, he is the god of law and order as well as the sky and king of the gods, but most people these days remember him as the god of sky, lightning and thunder, king of the gods! The law and order, divine justice part kind of gets ignored or forgotten. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it means the kids who represent that aspect of him become much smaller in number until there's maybe one every few decades rather than consisting of maybe... 25% of the current generation as they used to.

My thought process on that is, yeah, I imagine the ancient Greeks were much more aware of Zeus being the god of law and order considering he was a major part of their belief system, but there is also Themis who was the god of divine justice, and Dike, their daughter, who took charge of human justice, and in a time of mostly rural and somewhat scattered living control over nature is much more desirable.

Of course, I'm not a history buff, so this is all just general mental mutterings, but likely in larger towns or cities, having him as the forefront of law and order would be a bigger deal than with farmers who just want rain for their crops and the birds to stop eating their plants.

So in the beginning the split was probably something like 75-25 with more proficiency in the elements. And then as populations grew and cities developed, maybe it moved to a 65-35? Or a little higher. I don't think the law and order, justice and judgement favoured kiddos were ever very populous compared to their more elemental counterparts.

Then Rome was established and Jupiter's resulting demigods were much more focused on the whole leadership, maintaining order and erecting laws/rules to follow, enacting justice where they saw fit and punishing rulebreakers.

I figure the kids of the Roman version of Nemesis (quick search says her name is Invidia) were helpful in this area as well. Nemesis is revenge, yes, she was also divine retribution. Her kids, at least in the past before people focused only on the revenge aspect, ideally would prefer retributive justice - aka proportionate to the act.

This aspect makes them more focused on "real" laws, essentially laws approved by authority versus personal rules established by individuals. This makes them somewhat less biased on method of punishment/justice to be distributed compared to Zeus/Jupiter's kids who I headcanon to be focused on their own internal rules versus the general rules established by society.

Like a rule in school is to share the toys available. But if the kid has a personal rule that says "This specific toy does not have to be shared because it is the best toy/my favourite" then the overall sharing rule goes out the door. BUT also if someone else tries not to share something other than that specific toy, then they will jump to action in maintaining that rule.

I have thought about this a lot because my original story (which. I so badly need to keep working on, I think about it all the time 😩) based around this concept of intense sense of justice combined with autistic routine and internalized structure. But I've also thought about it a lot in general surrounded Jason because I use him to project my OC for attention bc lmao no one cares about my oc shitposting otherwise 😂

And yes, this means when I'm in charge of the character the law and order justice and judgement babies are typically autistic. Or at least carry way more in autistic traits than their more elemental counterparts. Because. That's what I'm working with lmao.

Also keeping with the example - the Nemesis/Invidia kids would look at someone breaking the sharing rule and establish a proportionate or previously established measure, like timeout or banning them from playing with the toy for a period of time.

Whereas, depending on how important the rule was to them or whether the rule clashed with a personal rule (such as "this toy is mine" or "my friends are allowed to play with whatever toy they want"), the Zeus/Jupiter kids might think justice needs to be more intense, like extending the period of time they can't play with the toy, or significantly more extreme, like spanking or expelling them from the school.

Each kid will have a varying level of extremes when it comes to justice, depending on the importance they give any law, whether societal or personal. This makes them really annoying to deal with sometimes, but luckily these days there's only one Zeus kid at a time and Roman gods appear to have less kids than their Greek counterparts (possibly because Greek gods are more popular in modern society so they don't exist in Roman form very often, hence the much higher quantity of legacy demigods inside Camp Jupiter) so they don't have to deal with it as much either.

But given Jupiter's much higher status in Rome compared to Zeus in Greece, the campers are probably much more willing to deal with whatever the Jupiter kids come up, even if it's the nuclear option over something innocuous. The Greek campers would probably give them drugs and make them go to sleep 😂. Like they respect Zeus's kids much more than they respect the others, but Zeus is still apart of a counsel of 12, thereby somewhat equal to them regardless of his king status, but Jupiter is the head of Rome. So his opinion, and his kids' opinions, are much more valued and respected. At least by most of the campers. His siblings and his niblings are probably just like "bro stop talking" lmao.

At least in reality that's how it should be. In PJO canon, maybe the Jupiter kids get drugged and sent to bed for their nuclear decisions too 🤷‍♂️ who knows lmao

So 😂😂 yes all that rambling aside, I think that Neptune having a split of life-giving and destructive kids due to his own split nature - salty killer ocean versus life-giving refreshing fresh water. But as modern perception changes - at least in PJO canon but probably IRL too since I'm pretty sure most people connect Neptune direct to Poseidon and are not aware of the fresh water origin - the destructive kids appear more and more with the calmer kinder kids crumbling down in number, until, like Zeus' law and order babes, there's only one every so often.

And due to the pre-established concept that Neptune is not a form that Poseidon takes often because Greek gods are more popular, that means he probably only has a fresh water favoured kid every few hundred years. So the fresh water kids are like a myth to the other demigods. A pipe dream, lost to time.

But also - just because the kids favour a specific aspect doesn't mean that they can't use the other aspects. It's just harder and requires more effort for them than it would be the kids who favoured the aspect they're trying to hit. So the vicious ocean kids can make fresh water out of salt water. They can create rain to water plants. But it requires more effort than like. Creating a huge wave to knock everyone over because they're bored.

The fresh water kids are likely more skilled with oceanic, giant waves that aren't technically tsunamis, hurricane, typhoon and, yes, also tsunami type powers as well because, even if they do favour fresh water, it's not like they're born knowing that. So like everyone else they will probably assume destructive ocean energy, especially if there's another Neptune baby teaching them. But they will go to bed each night, haunted by these intense feeling that they're missing a core aspect of who they are.

The ocean is part of them, yes, it's their father. But the fresh water wells deep below the earth pull at their gut even if they don't know that's what they're feeling, and when it rains they feel more rejuvenated than their sibling(s) do. Their skyborn cousins can control the rain and sky, but sometimes they think that's wrong. The rain belongs to them, doesn't it? They should be the masters of it, the givers of it. They should be handling it far better than their eaglet cousins.

Also - the rain thing. Neptunalia was a summer festival in honor of Neptune, held in the hopes that he would bless them with rain because of the heat and drought. So yeah, rainstorms, sun showers, etc, are things they can do. Percy, as a child of Poseidon, can't do that. He can make hurricanes but that's not really the same as a sun shower, or putting a raincloud over your head to wash off all the mud on you from this monster lmao.

But since the CJ Romans fear and detest Neptune, it's likely that they don't celebrate this festival - although I wrote a little thing a couple years ago about Jason trying to get Percy to help him set up his modern replacements for the festival when I was in my "Jason is an intense follower of Religio Romana" (the Roman version of Hellenstic paganism)" kick 😂. But reality is that in PJO canon it's unlikely they celebrate it - and that was the only festival Neptune had.

Also additional side note: Neptune is not a god of the earth. He was the god of all fresh water on earth - rivers, streams, underground wells of fresh water, rain (which is soaked into the earth). But yeah that's where the earth thing came from.

It would be cool if, as a result, his kids were able to manipulate the earth a little bit other than earthquakes. Like the earth would have to be super saturated with water, so a desert wouldn't work even if they created a rainstorm to flood it. Also the earth does not really soak up water in a flood either so trying to make wet soil to manipulate through rainstorms is not very possible for them and they hate that so much, lmao.

Imagine a little kid standing in one spot slowly watering a planter filled with dirt, stopping every few seconds to mix up the dirt before they go back to watering. They're there for like fifteen minutes before they stop water and then they're trying to raise the dirt into a misshapen ball and they're sweating so hard from the effort before it just collapses back into the planter and they have to sit down because, ooof.

Yeah, earth is a very small thing for them manipulation-wise and only under specific circumstances. I think the most they could do is maybe move it a bit, which could be useful when trying to trip up enemies, but otherwise it's not the most beneficial power 😂 but there were likely one or two kids who were obsessed with mastering it over the centuries.

Anyway, in what is definitely not gonna be a brief summation, yes, yes, yes. I do love heartless cruel child of Neptune in PJO, representing what Percy could turn into if he lost everyone he ever cared about, the people who keep him moral and ethical. But gentle kids who like to help other people because they favour the fresh water aspect of their father. The aspect that gives fresh water for people drink to survive, to water their crops. The aspect that provides rain during the drought, so they can collect it and survive.

A lot of the gods have various aspects to them, so their kids will favour different aspects. Thalia favours the leadership of Zeus, Nico favours death, Hazel favours wealth, etc, etc.

The only kids who are likely very consistent amongst themselves are the children of gods who have one specific purpose that's never wavered, even if their history isn't very consistent because of parentage changes or origin differences - like Nemesis or Dike or Moros. Set gods, you know? The ones who don't have an "and" in their "god of" statements.

But other gods, even minor gods because some of them do have more than one purpose like Persephone and Eros, will have kids that instinctually favour different aspects of themselves. Modern day perception may shift how many kids born favour certain aspects, like Neptune having more oceanic kids and Zeus having more elemental kids.

Feel like I need to wrap this up in a fancier way than the above ending sentence but lmao I got nothing so we're gonna go with the classic: The End.

[ashthenerd]

It is CANON that Will loves true crime. He came to camp young so if Al was at Camp then he knew him, and that is a high chance considering he is best friends with his sister and Al was brought to Olympus to be sentenced, where Will was running a field hospital. Will stated in TSATS that he didn't think the TA were bad people. So Will would have treated him.

This means that Will is a true crime nerd, who knew Al. When he finds out about Clayemore being sighted with Al, he would recognise him.

Al being exiled went against Percys agreement with the gods, so it's likely that people at Camp don't know. It's likely that Lou Ellen doesn't know that one of her siblings, her big brother is alive. They could work together to find him and Al would be all "fuck, they'll kill her if I talk to her"

And then we do the angst.

Someone please write this because I don't know how to write Al and I don't want to mess this up

I wonder if true crime fans in the percy jackson universe talk about claymore, especially because he's implied to be famous.

"Okay so he was at a cafe right before it burnt down, was the last person to see a missing man, quit his job, and is now occasionally seen with a teenage boy"

Without context, that sounds suspicious.

[serendipminie]

i shall try to get around to answering the rambling ask before tomorrow ehe

Okay! No rush Ash :)

You can rant about your pjo ocs too!!!! I’ve been in the fandom for almost a decade now lol

[ashthenerd]

Who in the PJO fandom wants commissioned fanfiction? Because if you donate €15 or more to save this Palestinian family, and send me proof, I will make it for you.

[serendipminie-writes]

i am being attacked with brainrot from all sides. pjo....all my wips.....genshin.....my pjo ocs..........they have all taken my brain hostage

Oh my god I love that for you!!!! Feel more than free to ramble Ash, my ask box is open anytime :)

[ashistrashhh]

what if we,,, kiss,, during every inaccuracy in the pjo movies 👉👈

[ashoss]

thinking about how the aphrodite/venus and athena combo would make tim the absolute best liar and manipulator like. ever.

the way anything he could say would sound intelligent ALONG with the persuasion/charmspeak?? unstoppable. tim drake no 1 liar

[ashkazora]

I think what endears me to characters like eren jeager and percy jackson is like, how they’re both loyal not towards the greater good for everyone, but towards the greater good for their friends and yeah that’s just a vibe

[polyamquackity]

Growing up and finding out the di Angelos weren't canonically latine as I had imagined them was so upsetting