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royalrebelpropaganda · 2 years ago
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yeah we put your girl in the fandom and they villainized her beyond comprehension. yeah sorry they took out all the nuance and made the argument completely black and white. yeah my bad. we can’t reverse it. sorry.
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bistaxx · 2 years ago
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ive also seen hardcoreduo but im sure thats been taken before? unsure but thats what theyre using on twitter. philzu/luzuza sounds funny but this fandom just loves duo names...
I have seen Hardcore duo and I actually don't mind that one! Though I think it's already used isn't it? Not sure for who though! If I had to pick between those two options Philzu is the better one... but it really looks like someone just misspelt Philza lmao
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signanothername · 1 month ago
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Anó, wanted to ask, so one of the first comic's from UT that you where making, stared being connected to each other, was that intentional, to make a big story out of smole ones? Will you be continuing this story or you see it as closed?
I’m not sure if you’re referring to a specific comic I made, or simply my comics in general at the beginning
But here’s a fun fact: a lot of the comics (and a lot of artworks) I make are interconnected with one another, but not necessarily in a direct organized way
Like when I make a comic, I try explore the characters and their relationships within my own multiverse, and I answer asks mostly with what would happen with my own interpretation of the characters as well as what would happen within my own multiverse in a way
I wouldn’t say that every lil artwork or every lil comic I make is somehow a branch of an overarching story (i’m not that much of a genius xgzggx) but a lot of them are part of a bigger story, it’s just that I’m extremely bad at making a linear full on story with comics organized in a specific manner relative to the plot, so I just let my brain do whatever it wants
But sometimes even silly sketches could have a lil bit of meaning if I wanted to
For example, remember the Killer with cat ears sketch? It’s genuinely a silly sketch that much is clear, but if you look closely, I specifically had Killer interact with Cross, I got a lot of questions in regards to Cross’ relationship with characters (that I’ve yet to answer) but I specifically am hinting at Cross’ role and status within the overall story in my multiverse >;)
Another example, is my Apple Pins comic, people went fucking insane over it, but what I think people don’t realize is the fact I already hinted at Nightmare’s apple pin being a gift in this sketch here way before the comic got made >:)
So yep, I try to make a lot of my comics, artworks and sketches interconnected, but again not necessarily every one, as the misplaced hatered comic or Queen Nightmare and Dream, are just for fun and to explore other storylines away from the main story
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artemistorm · 9 months ago
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A post in which I talk about how I, a Wild-centric fanfic author, like to characterize Wild /pos
So I've read a TON of Wild fics. Not all of them, but a whole bunch, and let me tell you, I love every version of Wild, every characterization. Brooding and angsty? Cool! Goofy and silly? Heck yeah! Competent experienced knight? Awesome! Feral gremlin? One of my favorites! I like kid!Wild, fox!Wild, wolf!Wild, winged!Wild, and every other variation I've come across.
So when I wanted to start writing Wild fics, I had to decide what way I wanted to portray him as: what felt right to me, what agreed with LU canon, what agreed with the game(s)... It was quite the head scratcher because all of those ways I mentioned earlier are valid and logical conclusions. I thought about it alot and this is what I came up with:
In BotW, Wild’s personality is primarily defined by two factors: his previous training or “programming” as a royal knight which although isn’t remembered, it is still there, serving as the framework guiding his thoughts and actions, and by his lack of memory (and baggage) and childlike lack of knowledge and experience of the world (remember when you started the game and he didn't know what an apple or a stick was?).
I had a breakthrough though when I was watching a BotW Let’s Play: I realized that Wild is basically every BotW Let’s Player ever (actually, every player) because everyone starts Breath of the Wild with their own life experiences guiding their thought processes and actions but they come to the game with no knowledge of how anything works in the game or what the story is.
So, all I had to do is write Wild like how I play him, or how my favorite Let’s Players play him: lighthearted and cheerful, pretty clueless about social interaction, wanting to help others but not knowing how to beyond providing practical help, logical and strategic problem solver but without memories, he ends up doing things in unorthodox ways. He's a talented fighter and can use any weapon, but big picture battle strategy is not his strong suit. He's a sticky-fingered goblin in the towns but he's always very helpful to anyone he meets.
While I do tend to write him as more the silly, goofy, gremlin style, I do recognize and include that he does have a troubled past, and he can be dramatically angsty and he does go wordless sometimes, but I figure there's a threshold for it. He's normally very resilient and bounces back easily from "Oh man, what an intense memory that was" to "ooh shiny carrot! Mine now!"
But there's a point when things get tough and he drops below the "bounce back" level, he can revert to his old knightly ways of silence, emotional suppression, anxiety, self-sacrificial tendencies, plus the troubles of having only 1-2 years-worth of memory/experience (and ADHD) like issues with emotional regulation, conflict resolution, excessive guilt, confusion, flashbacks, etc. I figure it takes a lot to knock him down to that level, but when it does happen, it takes a lot of time and support for him to revert back to his usual happy-go-lucky self.
In summary, to me, Wild is a cheerful goofy teenager, a scrappy and competent fighter, a knight with a troubled past, and a good kid.
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What's you favorite way to portray Wild? I'd love to hear it. (But please keep your thoughts to yourself if you're going to be critical, a Wild hater, or if your input starts with "I dislike/hate it when..." I'd like to keep this post as positive as possible.)
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lnkedmyheart · 1 year ago
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I don't know, I think its weird that so many people are trying to blame soukoku shippers for imaginary problems and acting like skk shippers have a gun to their head forcing them to do things.
Like I dont understand how Hoshikawa drawing 15 is a bad thing just because the same artist made beast just because YOU made up some headcanon in your head. I dont understand why any exploration of Dazai and Chuuya's dynamic in the past gets written off as Asagiri being forced to pander to the "yaoi loving fetishizing" skk shippers as if those two aren't major parts of each other's past and don't have a complex and deep bond. I get being overwhelmed by too much skk content when you dont like it. But to actively make up lies so it can justify your hateful narrative against a bunch of people just trying to enjoy content through made up non existent scenarios is weird as hell to me.
And it just rubs me really weird that skk shippers get written off as yaoi fangirls like many of us aren't queer people interacting with a queer ship. Or is yaoi fetishizing only limited to skk or other popular ships and not whatever ship the anti fixates on?
The number of times I have seen the mildest interaction between skk be written off as cheap fanservice and pandering to the skk shippers is insane. Chuuya appears and doesn't talk about Dazai? Cheap fanservice. Chuuya shows up for a plot relevant role? Cheap pandering. Dazai has a nice moment with any other character? Character development. Dazai is nice to Chuuya? Cheap fanservice. And the moment we got light novels and side manga adaptations of said novels for skk everyone just started raging at and bashing skk shippers and Chuuya stans like we were personally offending people that Asagiri decided that 1 of his many bsd pet projects happened to be about the past of a character who is a major part of Dazai, one of the main character's past. As if stormbringer, fifteen, dead apple and the dragon head prologue parts didn't add anything to Dazai's established character.
I am so tired of skk haters acting like they are the victims of neglect by Asagiri or acting like Asagiri, Hoshikawa and Harukawa are sobbing in a locked room and only getting slices of dry bread when they pledge allegiance to skk nation or some shit.
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fluffytimearts · 1 month ago
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Someone gave me the idea to make a fandom rules of the internet so here it goes!
Fandom Rules of the Internet: (Open and you can add more as you go)
Avoid engaging in fandom discourse; it's not worth your time.
If you encounter toxic people (proshippers, MAPs, radqueers, radfems/TERFs, haters, etc.), do not interact—just block them.
Redirect newbies who might wander to the bad side of the fandom.
Create blocklists of tags and blogs to help newbies and seasoned members avoid trouble.
Block tags of things you dislike to make it easier to avoid them.
Remember, the fandom isn't ruined—it's just the people in it.
Fandom is like apples: focus on the good ones and toss out the bad ones for your own well-being.
Be kind and remember that whatever you're into (show, game, manga, etc.) is fictional. It's not worth hurting others emotionally or mentally.
If there’s fandom drama, always do your own research. Sometimes there is misinformation and mixed stories, so take everything with a grain of salt.
If you're a minor, respect the "DNI minors" tag for your safety and avoid talking to adult blogs, especially NSFW ones.
Be cautious of Discord servers or any private group chats, as grooming and other harmful activities can occur.
Remember, you are responsible for your own viewing habits.
If you're an adult and a fandom elder, offer advice to minors and newbie fandomites.
If you're an artist, writer, or have any other skilled ability, try participating in weekly challenges for fun!
Don't like canon? Make headcanons and create your own AU!
If a character is canonically a queer sexuality or identity (especially if it's aspec, bisexual, or other…and underrepresented), do NOT erase it in favor of what you want. If it's not canon, there's nothing wrong with headcanoning!
There is nothing wrong with creating your own representation in fandom. "Whitewashing" is harmful because it erases underrepresented groups in favor of those already well-represented.
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chloe-caulfield94 · 1 month ago
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It's time to forgive yourself
It’s time you finally forgive yourself. A decade ago you bought a cool new game that was the talk of the town. An indie adventure game that would finally let you live out all the adventures you hadn’t had the chance to experience during your predictably boring and uneventful stay in high school.
The game taught you its two core mechanics: interacting with objects and rewinding time. And then it stopped holding your hand and gave you the first task that could actually be failed. To hide in the closet in time. All you had to do was to rewind time once and interact with a single object. Hardly a difficult puzzle. Hardly a puzzle, to be frank.
Unfortunately, you failed the first task that could actually be failed in a game that is so mechanically uncomplicated and straightforward that it was at times described as a “walking simulator”.
As you would learn by watching the stats screen at the end of the episode, only 30% of players failed as you did. 70% of players succeeded where you did not.
Before you had the chance to process your utter failure you experienced the negative consequences of your inability to use the basic mechanics the game had attempted to teach you moments earlier. Because it is always the case in video games that when players succeed, they are rewarded and when they fail, they are humbled. In this case, your humbling was receiving an earful from a blue-haired teenage girl for failing to hide in her closet in time.
And then it happened. Your unconscious mind acted to save you. It reforged your wounded gamer pride into a fierce hatred of a fictional teenage girl. It’s not you who is at fault for failing to perform what was essentially a simplistic quick time event. No! It’s the mean blue-haired girl’s fault for giving you lip!
A fierce hatred indeed. So fierce that a decade later, you stay at your post, badmouthing a fictional teenage girl to anyone willing to listen. And a lot of those unwilling to listen but who’ve had the misfortune of frequenting the same websites as you, too. A decade. Even many fans of that mean blue-haired girl forgot about her. But you never will. You will forever feed the fire of that hatred. You will forever remain at your post. Because to abandon your mission of educating the world how a fictional teenage girl deserves to be murdered would mean to admit that you suck at video games. And that is something you can never, ever do. Your gamer pride would never suffer that.
I mean, it’s so easy to hide in Chloe’s closet. I only learnt it was even possible to fail that task after I had already finished the game, when a clip of it was recommended to me on YouTube.
And no, I’m not buying the “Oh, but I didn’t hide in the closet on purpose, because it felt wrong to hide from the man of the house” excuse. Yeah, sure. When you are given a task in a video game your first instinct is to fail it on purpose. And dude, you bought the game to experience all that high school drama you never got to experience in real life. If hiding in a closet is a bridge too far for you, what sort of adventures did you want Max to experience? Diligently doing her homework and going to bed at 9 p.m.?
Of course, this post is a humorous jab at the numerous and dedicated haters of Chloe Price. But there is a grain of truth to it. Have a look at this poll, which shows that players who failed to hide in Chloe’s closet in time were THREE TIMES more likely to dislike her in comparison to players who did manage to hide in time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstrange/comments/12on3r8/s1_did_this_influence_your_opinion_of_chloe/
I know, it is by no means representative. But I don’t think it can be dismissed out of hand either, since it was conducted on a subreddit grouping some of the most loyal fans of the game, still willing to talk about it years later.
You might say: “You’re making fun of people hating on Chloe a decade later. But you’re a fan of hers a decade later���. I say apples and oranges. Being a fan of something many years later is normal. Being a hater of something many years later is weird. Because no healthy human being enjoys feeling hatred or outrage, even towards a fictional character. If you really dislike a story or a character, just forget about it, instead of subjecting yourself to the emotional trauma of seeing the mean blue-haired girl time and time again.
So in this moment I say to you. You are released form the spell put on you by the mean blue-haired girl a decade ago. You are forgiven for failing a quick time event a decade ago. You are healed, you are whole. Go play some video games.
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robloxconfessions2 · 3 months ago
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dm me if you specifically being mentioned in my new follower posts bothers you so I can say “as well as 1 anonymous user” instead
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engennn124 · 5 months ago
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Breaking my silence, after reading vol 6 of Sugar Apple Fairy Tale, i came to really enjoy the platonic relationship Bridget has developed with Anne and Challe
I feel like no one in the fandom enjoy this love triangle like i do sadly (speaking as a love triangle hater here). I like that it actually explores Challe's absolute trust that he had on Anne, as well as exploring the idea of Anne being the one to save Challe, AND also giving Bridget character development. It doesnt feel like the love triangle is just there for drama
The way both Anne and Challe contributed to Bridget's character development, the way they went from Bridget's love rival and love interest to her source of comfort and encouragement are so nice and feels like a breath of fresh air
The anime cut most of their interactions after Bridget lost Challe's wing (esp the interactions between Bridget and Challe) which was a bummer but I do understand that they don't have enough time for it
Also I do like that in the LN, Bridget hasn't developed any romantic affection for Orlando yet during this arc, I think they are cute and I don't hate what the anime did with them but it's nice that the LN focused on her personal growth first before developing the romance
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HEY YALLL INTRO POST.
My name is i_put_the_milk_before_the_cereal but you can call me Shani or Animatic. I am a minor REMEMBER THAT. I am lesbian and genderfluid but I mostly go by she/they. I liek drawing and animating 🤤🤤🤤🤤
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So uh yeah art time
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Be aware that I’m not online often!!!!!!!! So uh yeah.
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haterempiresoldier · 3 months ago
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☆ NORMAN ☆
• He/him (AMAB)
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•Average sized and on the chubbier side
•Bisexual (was married at some point years ago before joining the hater empire, now dating Larry)
•ASD + ADHD
•His main occupation is being a nightguard (should have called himself @haterempirenightguard 🙄), but occasionally, he also works as a soldier and works part-time as a cashier for the food court
•Loves watching cartoons and collecting coins to pass the time when he's not on duty
•Can be pretty cynical and awkward at times, but otherwise, he is mostly laid-back and down-to-earth
•Just like Larry, Norman is ambiverted. However, unlike his more introverted leaning partner, he is extroverted leaning
•Cares deeply about his loved ones, even if it may not look like it at times
☆GENERAL RULES☆
•14+ only!!! Do not interact if you're 13 or under
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wildpeachfarm · 7 months ago
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tbh i also think this visión of expulsing the toxic people is what makes some fandoms toxic. Bc people get so obssed in kicking put the "Bad ones" that being more attention to the rotted apples instead of just block and move on. It also has to do for with the boundaries bc boundaries are good to know how to interact with a cc but people take it as a manual of rules for fandom instead. And this makes people searching to see if there's someone who is not following the rule book to expose them and being all the attention to them instead of blocking and moving on. This mentality of "we have to be sire our fandom is only for 'decent' people instead of the sinners" is also making it more toxic and people leaving. Bc this it's not only people constantly fighting with haters to defend the ccs but also with other stans
oh I definitely think this new fascination with "callouts" rather than blocking and ignoring is bringing a lot of negativity to fandoms where it isn't necessary. A lot of people on twitter do this when it's petty interpersonal drama and nothing actually worth telling a whole fandom to care about. There's a lot of fandom police that try to cater the whole fandom to their personal comforts and it really ruins the vibes tbh
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sweetmariihs2 · 1 year ago
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Jason Carver was misunderstood?
Is he a bad person? or he had good intentions behind his behavior?
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All the underlined parts have links to other blogs and gifs that are related to the things I'm saying.
I've heard people saying that Jason Carver was a good person and he was only misunderstood because of the sequence of events in the show.
I kinda see where they came up with that, because of Chrissy's death and everything. But I have good reasons to doubt it. The series show us that he's a very popular character, good at public speaking and giving a speech, and everyone seems to like him except for Eddie and the rest of Hellfire. I wasn't for no reason, though. I have a post that partly explains why Eddie doesn't like Jason or the basketball team, and yes, there's a very plausible reason.
I'm not a Jason hater. I don't think he's a straight bad person, but I don't think he's a good person either. From what I saw in the show, Jason is a upper-middle-class guy, have popularity inside school, have a popular girlfriend and popular friends, gives interviews in the school newspapers,
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And overall is not judged by anything in his life. Everybody likes him because he's cool, he's nice to everyone, and that situation with Eddie is just because Eddie is a troublemaker, right? No, not really. Is implied in the show that they hate eachother from more than just that interaction. Briefly, because I want to change the subject soon and I've already talked a little about it, Jason would already hate Eddie because of his looks and rumors about him around school. Eddie hates that people judge him like this before even trying to talk to him first, and Jason is one of those people. But, as I said in the other post, Eddie thinks "If you can not beat them, join them". If people hate him because of their judgement, then he's going to do exact what they expect of him. He has more reasons to do that, for exemple to protect himself of agressions because people would think he's dangerous, but this post is not about Eddie so let's go back to the subject.
Jason has literally an almost-perfect life (Which is another reason of why he hates Eddie. The privileged never try to understand the marginalized. When you have a perfect life, you don't care about the minority or the outcasts and everything, because you are not suffering with it). Everybody likes him and he's a very standard guy, so he has no complains at all. He likes to be liked. He likes to be popular. He likes to have a nice, pretty girlfriend but not because he loves her — He doesn't hate her either, Jason isn't a douchebag, but I'm pretty sure that he likes the statuses more than he likes her. He must like her as a person but he is not romantically in love, same thing with Chrissy. (Pretty similar to Apple White and Daring from that cartoon we watched as kids some years ago lol) — Chrissy and Jason aren't intimate enough to talk about their problems with each other. Jason actually doesn't even have big problems in his perfect life, but Chrissy does. And when it's something so obvious that even the town freak can figure it out in seconds, I wonder how much Chrissy acts when she's around Jason. Her mother probably supports her relationship with him because of the good view people will have of Chrissy, and you know how her mother is; psychological pressure, eating disorders, keeping up appearances.
This gifset explains for itself, but even being so obvious people still don't understand and has that confusion/misinterpretation of the characters.
That's a truth that Chrissy+Jason pro ppl don't understand— Chrissy acts when she's around him. For example in that scene during the basketball team/cheer practice, when he turns the public attention to his romance with Chrissy (to Chrissy herself actually) ((showing even more about how he appreciates their status as the school's power couple)) again, not that he hates Chrissy, because he doesn't. He just don't LOVE her as a boyfriend should love. It's just the status.
Grace Van Dien said that Chrissy was an introvert— do you guys think that introverts like that public attention? Like those looks from the other students? She's literally trained by her mother to act! That performative smile of hers in the cheer practice don't look even a little bit with her true smile or her laughter. She's never herself in front of everyone, not even in front of Jason, but Eddie could have a small peak of it (and the exact same thing happened to Eddie, but with the roles reversed).
And also, Jason was already a sick person before Chrissy's death. What happened was just a trigger for him to get violent — he's had these urges before and even if Chrissy didn't died he could had freak out over anything else bad that happened in his life. His violent impulses towards Eddie and Hellfire weren't because of Chrissy (yes, her death has something to do with it, but it's not the only reason, at least not the most important one) he manages to convince everyone to go on a witch hunt with Eddie using his speech skills. He took advantage of the satanic panic, which he already believed (alienated by the media and blinded by his privileged life) and even truly believing that Eddie would have killed Chrissy, he was taking out on Eddie all the anger he had for him. He wanted to hunt and hit, hurt, but now had an perfect excuse for it.
@munsons-maiden has a perfect post who explains very well what was going on with Jason's behavior and his relationship with Chrissy I am basing on it because it is very important for the discussion, I highly recommend that you read it. And this another one about what I said about Chrissy's role inside this blog.
This other one is also very good to explain about Eddie and Chrissy's relation: Because for some reason the ppl who like Jason loves to villanize Eddie for everything he does, so this one is amazing to analyse his real intentions with her (and to prove again how bad of a boyfriend Jason is)
You can see that happening in the second episode. When Jason discovered about Chrissy's death of course he got really bad, but seconds later he is being cynical, calculating and planning ways to attack Eddie, saying that he was a psychopath who had taken the game too seriously, mistaking fantasy for reality (this scene happens at S4 EP2, 42:35 min). They plan to literally hunt down and beat up Eddie. Andy even laughs, makes fun of him by saying that Eddie would be so scared he would "shit his pants and cry for mommy. This guy's no fighter" (the fact that Eddie doesn't even have a mother, and she's probably deceased... hurts really bad) and they KNOW that Eddie is not a fighter. He DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FIGHT, they KNOW that and they want to BEAT HIM UP. That's so fcking problematic. Is gross, even.
What makes me think... they are saying that he's not violent? but they believe that he killed chrissy, I would be at least scared of fighting with him. Or they know something that we don't....? (Maybe they know that he wasn't responsible....? Wtf? What is happening here?
What happens next is most shocking and important part of all. Refutes everything Jason's defenders say to defend him.
The other basketball player with him laughs and Jason says
"I hope he tries something. Gives me a reason"
what in the actual fuxk was that quote
This scene happens in the episode 3, at the minute 11:15. I really, really want you to open your Netflix right now and rewatch the scene. The other character even replies "hell yeah".
This man is violent. They KNOW that Eddie don't know how to fight, they wanna beat him up not because of Chrissy, but because they don't like him. They were LAUGHING while saying those things. None of them were sad. And as I said, now he has an excuse to do with Eddie everything he ever wanted to do: he said it VERY CLEARLY. "I hope he tries something. gives me a reason".
This guy is sick. He wants to see him suffering and crying of pain. He wants to see Eddie reacting, running or fighting back to PROTECT HIMSELF, so that Jason can have fun while beating him up right after. So when someone asks "don't you think that went a little too far? He is very hurt" they can say "he reacted, he tried to attack us, we were just defending ourselves", or just to see the prey running so the hunter has a little more fun.
When Lucas asks something like "Are you guys going to hit him?", Andy says something like "no, we're just going to have a friendly chat" while laughing with the other basketball player. Jason lets out a cynical smile, saying "if you don't want to come, you don't have to, just know that it's okay and it's still going to be one of us", with a menacing tone in his voice. Where is the instability for being sad about chrissy's death? Where's the grief? Anyone who lost their romantic partner would cry for days and days, not bothering to talk in threatening tones to put pressure on people or plan a rebellion against Eddie. The police were already doing that; since he was "very sad" with the situation, he should go home and rest, shouldn't he?
They used the excuse that the police isn't competent and so they should do it with their own hands, but it was just another excuse to cover up their desire to beat up Eddie. And what scares me so much is the other character, right after that quote from Jason, responding with "hell yeah". They agreed with him and saw nothing wrong with what he said, unlike Lucas, who found it absurd.
And yes, I'm going to mention that scene with Gareth.
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He was already being violent to other members of Hellfire, and again, that conversation makes it clear that they are enemies from more time than just that one interaction with Eddie. According to what some pro-Jasons said, if Jason was angry with Eddie only because he provoked him that time in the cafeteria and Jason was not to blame for anything, why would he have done this to the Corroded Coffin? This argument with the members of H4llfire, cursing their music and being arrogant with them, this feels like an old fight. Gareth, Jeff and Freak 1 seem to be used to these comments from Jason — something we didn't see him doing in the cafeteria scene, i.e. they obviously hate each other for a longer period of time.
And he almost broke Gareth's fingers for NO REASON, because he's not even SAD BECAUSE OF CHRISSY'S DEATH. Jason hardly ever mentions Chrissy dying, but he keeps talking about Eddie, getting revenge on Eddie, beating up Eddie, and all that craziness.
I don't even know if he really did broke his fingers or not. That was just so cruel, because it was only for him not to play the drums, out of cruelty. And his friends held the other boys so that they couldn't help, proving that they are all on the same level of cruelty. Jason even almost destroyed his drums.
If he (almost?) broke Gareth's hand just because of that, imagine what he would do to Eddie with all of that equipment. I don't remember exactly, but I know they had big things like baseball bats, crowbars, screwdrivers, things like that.
I don't even have to mention when they bought literal guns in vol 2. Even a fucking KNIFE. Like, that kind of professional knife, not made for cutting food like the ones we usually see in the kitchen. And again, with that cruel smirk on their faces. I feel so bad thinking about what they could do to Eddie. He could be shot, beaten, or stabbed to death by a GROUP of people. Not just only one guy. Eddie probably didn't even know that they could hurt him that bad; he just knew that he WOULD be beaten up, but not like this. And that's so sad because he's innocent.
Jason was CRAZY to get Eddie. In an absurd level.
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That's the post, thank you for reading.
Jason is a sick person, forget what I said at the start of the post.
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I'm afraid of those people
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jailforwriter · 1 year ago
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Look, I'll be honest with you. Nothing makes me go feral over a book faster than picking up on a bit of clever symbolism. This hand-rubbing, cunning little storytelling shortcut can really make a difference between a book you enjoyed, and one you cannot sandpaper off the grooves of your brain. In many ways, it's a sneaky bit of puzzle-solving that the author tucked under the rug of the main text for us to find, and yeah, engaging with it takes a bit of getting on your knees and dusting, but boy are those proverbial allergies satisfying!
Hopefully by the end of these series you'll love this device as much as I do, so let's get into it!
What's symbolism?
Okay, right off the bat, I have to warn you that symbolism exists in the nebulous realm of things that take some thought to like, proper get, but we as writers thrive in places where we get to dissect and interpret complex stuff, so don't worry too much.
Now, a symbol could be an object, a place, a character, an action – so long as it represents something other than their literal meaning, it's the double-agent of literature: a symbol. We come across some of the most common ones pretty often, even in daily life. Suffice to walk by a flower shop and see a red rose for it to recall romantic attraction; whether we personally have an interest in it or not, the image still sparked the thought. That's the power of association, and just this once, it's here to help.
We can use those associations on a smaller scale to add layers of depth and evoke more complex ideas in our stories – like themes and messages – without needing to spell them out. In that way, we're ergonomically inviting the reader to solve our hidden puzzle (engage with the narrative on a different level) and get a little treat for it (a deeper understanding of the story's themes and messages, yummy!).
Types of symbolism
There are no hard and fast categories for the kinds of symbolisms we might come across in media, which really means that there are so many that we can get a bit liberal in our sorting criteria. As a scientist, this hurts my soul. As a writer, however? Let's get biased! Personally, I like to look at them this way:
Objects: one of the clearest ways to express many things in one. For instance, think of a pocket watch. Yes, it symbolizes the passage of time, but what else could we add onto it to say even more? Maybe the watch is worn, reflecting on the character's old struggle with reconciling the inevitability of aging and its inexorable march toward death (joy!). Maybe it starts ticking erratically at some point, paralleling the character's own mental instability. Maybe they decide to break it in the end, symbolizing them finally freeing themselves from time's constraints and their obsessive preoccupation over aging. We can get creative here!
Animals: these we often get from cultural exposure. For instance, someone interested in Greek mythology might see an owl and immediately think of wisdom – not necessarily because of any inherent attributes to the owl itself (although there's some interesting discussions to be had about where the association came from in the first place!) but because it's been drilled into them through history and repetition.
Characters: let's take it up a notch. What if we have a character who embodies, for instance, something antithetical to our protagonist? Who questions their values and challenges their worldview by mere dint of existing? What if our protagonist, Johnny Apple-Lover, comes across our antagonist, Lenny Apple-Hater? What happens when they interact? Characters may embody archetypes or have certain attributes that, juxtaposed to those of other characters, say a lot of interesting things about them. (Deep dives about this particular topic to come!).
Settings: this is your classic "ye olde manor existed in a state of perennial darkness, engulfed by the shadows of the thunderclouds above, through which nary a sunray ever ventured" business. Gloomy weather in a dark forest tends to evoke a desire not to go there, while a flowery, sunny meadow seems more like a place where you'd wanna hang out (please disregard if you're a vampire...and also hmu). This allows for some interesting subversions of expectations, in some cases, and we'll look into those a bit more later down the line.
Actions: actions (and lack thereof) can function as a fantastic substitution for directly stating a thought, and may add onto theme without needing to overexplain it by throwing up a mirror to the character's state of mind. For instance, a character opening a bird's cage and urging them out might symbolize their appreciation for their own freedom, particularly if they have resisted doing so throughout the book for fear of its consequences. Double-points for including animal symbolism, too! You'll find that a lot of the best symbolism exists at the junctions of all these categories, so don't be afraid to get creative with the combinations.
Colors: stop me if you've heard this before: red means angry, blue means sad, green means envious...yeah, so on and so forth. This is a straightforward method of conveying deeper meaning that goes hand in hand with symbolic objects, and can cast them and the characters who interact with them in a new, more exciting light. Speaking of lights, here's an example: what if Gatsby's was red instead of green? Suddenly, the entire message changes. It's no longer the green of money, nor of "go", but may now symbolize the red of violence and of "stop". We can extrapolate a lot from a little change, and therein lies the beauty of this literary device.
It's worth noting that other people may break down symbolism as it pertains to its effect on the reader, or give particular credence to religious symbolism as its own category, or focus on thematic relevance and imagery as their own types. I've based my breakdown on what I feel most accurately represent the tools we as writers need in our toolbox, and have tried to make them as easily accessible as I can. Hopefully it's not too convoluted!
In the next part, we'll focus on how symbolism differs from allegory, simile and metaphor by looking into some specific examples, and we'll also discuss why it's important to be a little picky and careful with the kinds of symbolisms we use in our work. I look forward to seeing you all there, thanks for sticking around!
Happy writing!
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abearbutch · 1 year ago
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please DO interact: if you started greying in your early 20s, green apple haters, plushie collectors, if you’ve never changed your glasses style in your life, if you have to walk on the left of others, artists with messy sketchbooks, thumb ring wearers, iced water in winter enjoyers, head size junior sufferers, butch/stud lesbians who’ve been told they smile too much, if you never delete phone alarms
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thestormlightnetwork · 6 months ago
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Apple juice haters do not interact
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