#Anti Jroth

[bellamyblake]

I still find it absolutely senseless to dedicate an entire season (3) on the fact that taking away people's minds and free will and transporting them to an AI invented heaven-like place is WRONG and that your main characters are fighting AGAINST that only to turn it into a recycled theme for your last season except this time you finish the job and make it even worse, turning folks into yellow groots (trees) while the rest can't procreate or continue living....

[1doesnotsimplyhavejust1fandam]

Thought I had long since made my peace with the tragedy of show!Bellarke, but was randomly reminded of when Bellamy was traipsing around the woods with Josephine outside Sanctum, and we all thought it would be Day Trip 2.0, and Bellamy would hear some form of Clarke’s radio calls from the 2199 days. Yeah, we were clowns, but it also would’ve been so??? easy??? to include the radio calls??? But instead they were literally ignored basically as soon as Bellamy and Clarke made up fully during the lanterns scene. You’re telling me that Gabriel’s camp pulls in radio calls from every other planet introduced to us, and yet there’s not even a mention or reference to Clarke’s calls to Bellamy? It was the basis upon which they rebuilt their relationship, and it doesn’t even get a single line??? And I’m not even talking a whole dramatic love confession over the radio, it would’ve been enough to see Bellamy hear even one of her most mundane calls. His expression at realizing that Madi and Clarke were NOT exaggerating when they admitted to the radio calls. That they really were every damn day. And it even could’ve been one we’d heard before, or of a similar vein. But no. That’s the line they drew in baiting us. I’m so spitting mad over this again, and trust me, I was apoplectic over this when it was first happening (once I had scrapped myself off the ceiling after the CPR scene, that is, and wow, what an amazing scene used as bait!!! But not the radio calls, no no, that’s too far!!). Jason Rothenberg, you are forever on my shit list.

[carrieeve]

Hi. Why do you think 7 season of the 100 went so bad? What happend?

Frankly, I've been thinking about it for three years and I'm still short of a good answer. I cannot believe that this has been the design for the moral of this story from the beginning, because it doesn't make any sense and has nothing to do with the plot or the characters' journey throughout the years. Never mind the fact that this has never been a deus-ex-machina aliens shows 🤦‍♀️

Honestly, the only thing that ever made sense to me was, well, spite.

Jason used Bob's unavailability to punish him, Eliza and the entire fandom for--being there for the show since the beginning, basically. They dared to momentarily divert attention from his brilliance and we were a little too smart and figured out where the story was going too well. And instead of being happy that we were so devoted to the show and to the story, he got his ego hurt. It's not a rational thing and it's not how grown-ups should behave in grown-up situations but here we are. I genuinely believe that this turn into the unexpected was Jason's way of proving that we ain't as clever as we thought we were. I mean, hands up, who guessed that ending?!

Also, actor's temporary unavailability is a shitty reason to kill off a character and every time that happens, I become enraged. Actors have stuff going on all the time. They get pregnant, they get other gigs, they get ill, break bones and go to rehab all the damn time. The writers do know how to get around that. Teen Wolf worked Dylan O'Brien leaving into a pretty fricking fantastic story in 6A. NCIS: Los Angeles worked Miguel Ferrer literally dying into the plot and give his character a touching send-off.

Choosing to use this opportunity to enact revenge and prove that you are the overlord isn't just childish, it's stupid. But at least, he seems to be paying for that now. His prequel got scrapped faster than you can say "ha-ha" and I haven't even heard a whisper about a new project, which is well and truly deserved.

So, to sum up this long-winded tirade, I think what happened was bruised ego. Which the most moronic reason for wrecking shit up I've ever heard of.

[shayera-the-magpie]

As a Clxa shipper, the Judge for Clarke should have been either Wells or Bellamy.

I rest my case.

[kizo2703]

So, the thought - how could this monster become his gf?! Because knowing Bellamy, he would probably float her first before even thinking of fucking her?! What a load of crap from writing was that?! 🙄🙃😂

[frankchurchillsaysrelax]

if ever you think to yourself that you should rewatch the 100 from beginning to end, STOP. this is the devil speaking. instead, consider all of the ways you can psychologically torture jason rothenberg.

[pendragaryen]

Hi! I’m super sorry to bother you over something so silly, but I was wondering if you could do me a favor. I don’t have many followers, but there’s a poll I would LOVE to see people’s opinions on & you have a lot more reach to t100 fandom than I do. If you’ve been blessed w the poll feature, do you think you could set this one up (& feel free to edit the language, because cursing is definitely involved, & I would completely understand if that made you uncomfortable):

If The 100 prequel had been picked up, would you have watched it?

-Yes

-No

-Hahaha

-Only if JRoth was no longer attached to the project

-Only in an alternate universe where JRoth didn’t destroy S7 of The 100

-F*ck JRoth & any project he’s attached to, he should never work in showbiz again

Thank you for reading! Please do not feel obligated to actually make this poll, I’m just insanely curious if fans would have actually given the prequel a shot.

-Kathleen

Hey there and thanks for your message! You're definitely NOT bothering me. But since i'm a total mess when it comes to any features or gimmicks of tumblr (i have no idea how to create a poll myself since i haven't done one so far - i also am too lazy to learn it... haha... sorry) i pass this ask on to my lovely followers:

Is there anyone able and willing to set up this poll? That would be great! I think it's quite the interesting question!

Tons of hugs! <3<3<3

[kizo2703]

Well, we can safely say this was the last time we saw the "real" Clarke... Cause in the 7x03, she's a completely different character. 🥺

6.01 “Sanctum” // 7.01 “From The Ashes”

[the-witch-of-woods-beyond]

i always see people saying that lexa’s face after clarke kills finn is one of surprise because she’s realising that clarke could have just as easily killed her. and while i’m sure that could be the case, i always saw it as lexa being completely stunned and sickened by her guilt. we know that losing costia was a key point in lexa’s life and caused her to view love as weakness, and i think that she saw clarke, bloodied and crying over her first love and holding a knife and burdened by leadership, and thought of herself and felt so guilty that she’d just watched clarke lose her first love, just like she did, because of her own orders.

[alicentflorent]

It’s often a major red flag when a male showrunner declares himself as a feminist or his work as feminist

[userlaylivia]

my last post because I just watched a video from 716 but after this post I won't rant anymore about the 100 except in the tags lol here's the thing, it's not even just bellarke wasn't endgame or that they never even kissed or said ily though those things I'll always be mad about but if they weren't going to have them end up together they should've just left him dead in the beginning of s7 then bellarke wouldn't of been tainted and trust me I still adore them completely they'll always be otp but then bringing him back just to kill him and how they did it angered me and always will ugh no they brought him back making us think she'd save him just like he did in s6 but no they had her kill him and I think they did that to say a final f u to bellarke shippers because why else do it it literally made no sense, clarke could've NEVER killed bellamy and anyone believing she could even to save madi watched a different show!! she couldn't kill him to save the human race and never could've killed him to save madi idc!! sorry but s7 doesn't exist, it made absolutely no sense, all the characters were ooc and it was boring af!! them not even grieving for him let alone trying to save him was ooc and never would've happened so s7 is not the 100 I know or love it's a completely different show, a terrible season and was unnecessary!! the show ended at 613 end of the story!!

[kizo2703]

Clexa doesn't belong on this list, because it was NEVER mishandled. They had their time and ended it as they did. Yes, the way Lexa was killed off was definitely disastrous, but it certainly wasn't mishandling. Just a bad writing. As for Lexa being Clarke’s soulmate, it was just another of jroth's craps for baiting clexas and pineapples once he lost all other fans and audience.

But, jroth never said Lexa was Clarke's soulmate. In the interview after the final episode he calls her "The love of Clarke's life", which is also total bullshit.

Like everyone forgot Lexa's betrayal in s2. Then she kidnapped and held Clarke locked up for a week until she agreed to bow to her in public as Wanheda to save her own ass in s3a. And then, they live together for two weeks. Doing nothing but watching each other with puppy eyes.

In the end, when Clarke must leave Polis, they have a goodbye fuck. And that's a relationship?! A love of someone's life?! They never said ILY to each other when Lexa was alive! She said Lexa ILY in the Flame in 3x16. Does it count? 😜

That's why I tell everyone who (still) wants to watch the show to end it with season 6. Because Season 7 is a completely different show. Am I not right?

Top 10 Mishandled Ships (Bellarke ; Bellamy and Clarke)

Given the way that JRoth ruins every single ship he touches, I really should have known better. I didn’t put Clexa on this list, but the way he handled that ship was also a disaster. But, somehow, I thought that Bellarke would be different. Bellamy and Clarke are endgame in the book series. The actors who play them are married in real life. The ship was built up beautifully over six seasons and then…season seven happened. Due to offscreen factors, Bellamy and Clarke couldn’t be in as much of the season. I still don’t know if JRoth sunk this ship out of spite to the actors, to the fans, or just for his own sick amusement. Having Clarke kill Bellamy over a book she doesn’t even bother to grab? After all they’d been through? The core theme of their relationship was forgiveness and this was where Clarke drew the line? Clarke also referred to Bellamy as her “best friend” multiple times in the final season, the characters barely mourned Bellamy’s death (including Bellamy’s sister and girlfriend), and Lexa was shown to be Clarke’s soulmate at the end. I spent the entire final few episodes sobbing out of anger at the injustice. They even added a stupid “everyone lives happily ever after except Bellamy” ending that just felt hollow. The entire final season was disappointing, confusing, and self-congratulatory. It honestly kind of ruined the entire show for me. What could have been one of the best slowburn romances of all time was carelessly destroyed due to a writer’s ego and I’ll never not be bitter about it.

[whateverthedragonswant]

Note to Elwood:

This is not how you talk about someone when they're not present when you have "feelings" for them:

What about that scene above is him being a gentleman?

And more importantly...

Beau has feelings for Jenny?

Girl, WHERE?

We've only ever seen Jenny's side of things.

Full disclosure, I haven't seen season 2, but Jenny is funny and very charismatic? That's what she and Beau have in common besides their confidence? I don't remember Jenny cracking any jokes in season 1 or season 3 thus far.

"But he doesn’t let Jenny in emotionally because he doesn’t want to be vulnerable to her." - what??? So him telling her in 2x18 that he followed his daughter and ex-wife to Montana wasn't him letting her in. Or him telling her and Cassie how he felt about missing out on Emily's life in 3x01 wasn't letting her in? Or even when he talks to her alone in 3x09 again about Emily?

LOL!!! Jenny isn't jealous of Cassie and Beau's friendship in a romantic way? Seriously? Then why the whole consistent teasing of Beau about Cassie, asking if he's jealous? Even in 3x09 when they're having their supposed big emotionally intimate convo without Cassie being there or having anything to do with it? Elwood, you lie like a rug.

"Beau’s been very, very guarded around Jenny about any emotional stuff in his life regarding his marriage." - yet again, I ask, how has he been guarded when in the very first episode he meets her, he talks about it? He may not have told her the reason why the marriage failed but he had no problem basically admitting that he was still in love with Carla in that first car ride. Not to mention Jenny is the first one to meet Carla and witness what happened there.

"When Jenny got to interview Carla, that was a real chess match, and what was being discussed was trying to figure out what makes Beau tick and what kind of woman would be with this guy Avery, who Jenny and Beau know is up to some dirt." - so you ADMIT that Jenny was doing that in this scene when just an episode later you have Jenny telling Cassie that she's going to respect his boundaries, give him some space, and let him tell her when he's ready? When she said the very same thing in 3x01 when Cassie tells her she can ask Beau? So she goes behind his back and gets the scoop from his ex-wife instead? Not a true romance does this make.

"Those are the cards we’ve been playing with in this relationship. I think it all goes towards earning those looks, earning any kind of physicality that may occur in the back half of the season, really earning it," - you may want to stick to playing checkers instead because your chess matches and card playing aren't working out; they're horrific. Because Beau suddenly doing a 180 in the mid-season finale doesn't feel earned, it feels extremely out of character, abrupt, and not making sense.

"and making the audience want to be there for it." - AH, his true goal, gotta get those numbers up and keep viewers for the ratings. My bad, I thought Elwood was a story teller, not a salesman.

So basically, he knows he fucked up, the show doesn't actually show this supposed build-up of a true romance of Beau and Jenny, so that's why we get:

A whole sales pitch in combination with a full explanation because it wasn't apparent how Beau felt during the entire season so far, and the interviewer even had to check that Jenny knew she was interested. Imagine, that had to be asked.

And once again, he's not doing this because it's right for the story or either character (it's not), he's doing it to give "the audience what they want". Fanservice, that's all it is. And while a lot of shows tend to swing this way in order to keep viewers (since streaming/COVID changed the game irrevocably), the writers do their best to try to make it make some sense in the story. We've seen both good and bad examples of both. This is definitely the latter.

Had they done some organic build-up between Beau and Jenny, and not had Jenny acting so out of character and being full on cocky to boot (I mean, "Jenny always gets her man"? Really?), then maybe I could see this making sense as far as the fanservice goes. But Jensen and Katheryn don't have romantic chemistry. This is what genuine chemistry looks like:

He has way more chemistry with Angelique, Kylie, and Dedee. And for Beau to get into a romantic relationship with either Carla or Cassie makes way more sense for his story as well as theirs. With Denise not so much, but again, chemistry and it's cute.

So for this sudden Beau-has-been-returning-Jenny's-feelings-the-whole-time-he's-just-been-guarded-around-her to come out of nowhere is just beyond bad writing. Especially considering that Jenny already dealt with this issue (guy who isn't truly over his ex and she has to deal with it in the relationship) last season. With Travis, the very same guy Beau helped her to deal with in the very same episode she met him and says goodbye to her boyfriend, and lets him go to find his ex. The very SAME episode. That's. BAD. WRITING. And not good at all for Jenny's character development, because there is NO development. Here she is again, dealing with this same bullshit. And to top it all off, she's been acting like a teenager in some weird one-sided high school romance, being jealous (yes, Elwood, that's right, ROMANTICALLY jealous) of her best friend, trying to call dibs on a man that has shown NO interest in her whatsoever, to the point where even his ex-wife is noticing, and basically waiting him out because she's so confident she's going to get her man. (Yes, you wrote that, Elwood. YOU) Something the Jenny from Season 1 (and the few flashes I've seen of season 2) Jenny wouldn't have done, especially after having gone through this SAME thing last season.

So you have both female leads (and one hell of a strong female side character aka Carla) being reduced to devices to tell the romance story for fanservice, all revolving around a man...great job, Elwood. Great job.

And here's the thing, Jensen is doing his best to make the story work. And that's not speaking through an AA-haze, that's just speaking truth. It's most apparent in that 3x10 scene. While that moment came out of nowhere and felt extremely awkward, especially with Jenny's reaction, it only worked slightly because of him. He and Katheryn don't have romantic chemistry, not in these roles and in this story. So I think it's hilarious that fanboy Elwood who is clinging to Jensen and Reba like a crab with its claws, texts Jensen from the editing room (by Jensen's own admission from this most recent con), asking Jensen if he meant to play a take a certain way, then telling him it's brilliant and they're going to use it, and yet we still get:

This scene (and ANOTHER Cassie mention) & this scene (where Beau is NOT jealous nor does he give a shit that Jenny is being hit on)

Where Beau very clearly isn't into Jenny or thinking of anything romantic happening between them. NO. ORGANIC. BUILD-UP.

Elwood had the opportunity to use different takes (for example, look at the 3x09 movie night scene again - Katheryn's coverage has Jensen looking at her; Jensen's coverage has him barely looking at her) to tell this story between them seamlessly and do a genuine build-up to have this payoff in 3x10. He didn't because his ego is telling him that he doesn't need to. And why? Because he believes his own hype and his goal isn't to tell a great story but to maintain ratings. That's it. So it's beyond hilarious to me that fanboy Elwood even texts Jensen from the editing room. Like dude, you have no excuse. This isn't on the editors or the writers or the actors; this is on you. Just you.

And the only time we get some genuine possibly romantic chemistry with Jensen and Katheryn? This scene - and why? Because they're not playing their roles. (which is a testament to their acting abilities btw)

Congratulations, Elwood. You sacrificed Cassie and Jenny, your two female leads, for ratings for this shit. Are you proud of yourself? (most likely you are but you shouldn't be)

I've seen some shitty showrunners in my time but wow, Elwood, you take the cake. I can see why there's talk about this season being this show's last. This is truly terrible writing. You may want to go back to just being on a writing team or to short novels, buddy. I feel like that's where your strength is, and leave the showrunning to the pros.

[braveclxrke]

You know, I haven't said this in years, but it's still as true as the first time I said it

fuck jeff davis

yes this is about what he did to stydia in the tw movie, yes i will stay bitter what of it

[kizo2703]

Know what? I think they were even ready to wait with the wedding until the show was over but his "misinterpreted" bullshit and his scrapping off Bellarke getting together in 6x11 has pushed them to do it earlier, between the seasons. The question is only who was (and how did they find out?!) the asshole who called Eliza and threatened to publish it?

I hate JRoth as much as anyone, but the idea that he just got so mad that he was like “THAT’S IT I’m taking romantic blarke oUT of the scripts. Make Clarke call Bellamy her best friend a few times and they’ll forget all about it!” and the other writers were like “Okay but what about all that chemistry bob and Eliza have? You can’t just make that disappear?” “Get rid of all their scenes this season!! There will only be two of them, and in one she is killing him! Problem solved!” “Okay but I don’t know if the audience is just going to forget about 6 whole seasons of romantic direction we literally wrote” “Clarke already has a soulmate!! The one we haven’t seen in literally 3 years. And she’s super dead still, but comes back as an alien for a hot sec. It’s called distraction people. I know what I’m doing. Watch the ratings be great!!” ................... kind of funny.

[lee-em-dee]

some gratuitous bellarke ranting

I wanted to discuss the implications of the decision process behind Bellarke not happening after a lovely fan shared an Interesting (*eye twitch*) piece of information given by Eliza during the recent Survival 5 convention.

It’s very telling just how mutually exclusive the question of whether or not to move forward with canon Bellarke was re the 100 writers deciding upon a happy vs tragic ending for the show:

 Canon bellarke + the heroes triumph (hopeful ending) vs. the tragic destruction of bellarke + the battle is lost (bleak ending)

In other words, this confirms that if Bellamy and Clarke had actually gotten together then the writers wouldn’t have been able to go through with the trash, grimdark, hopeless ending they’d come up with as a potential resolution--why? Because Bellarke’s “together” (a.k.a. the consistent message of the show from s1-s6) was the epitome of hope in the 100, emblematic of goodness prevailing over darkness. The entire trajectory of the show and the way it ended was singlehandedly dependent on Bellamy and Clarke’s relationship, more specifically whether or not they became a canon romantic couple. 

If they had gotten together, a hopeless ending would simply not be possible because Bellamy and Clarke working Together was always the paradigm for hope, redemption, and rebirth in a landscape of death and destruction.

It was an all-or-nothing decision re having Bellarke finally happen after years of buildup, which guaranteed a “happy” / hopeful ending for the show, vs callously destroying that relationship (by the heroine’s own hands, to add insult to injury), which ensured the end of the human race. Humanity was doomed after failing the final task, and procreation was no longer possible. They couldn’t “do better,” and there was no hope for a younger generation.

All that being said, it’s logical to conclude that the alternative ending that involved Bellarke becoming canon + saving the day (as they’ve always done) would’ve also entailed Bellamy and Clarke rebuilding the world and passing on Monty’s legacy of “doing better” to a younger generation--very likely Bellamy and Clarke’s own child, if you bother looking at the multitude of Kabby and Marper parallels the show has pushed, not to mention all of the ways that Bellamy and Clarke have acted as parental figures since s1.

Taken altogether, this only goes to show just how integral Bellarke’s romantic relationship was to the fundamental message of the show, which unsurprisingly crumbled to pieces after losing its backbone. Reflecting back on how many times JRot has tried diminishing the significance of their relationship and belittled fans for “misinterpreting” the blatant romantic subtext for Bellarke, all I can say is a big fuck you to him and to all of the writers who decided to erase six seasons worth of consistent storytelling in favor of a mediocre, half-baked, grimdark joke of an ending.

On a more positive note, everyone who continues to love Bellarke as much as I do can feel vindicated knowing that their power remains unmatched and that the 100 would be nothing without their relationship--working Together, side by side, as they were always meant to be 🤷‍♀️