#And thought wow I think this is trying to tell me yandereism is epic
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YEEEAAAHHH OMG ALL YOUR HEADCANNONS ARE REALLY GOOD! 🤩And I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT MOFO IS SMART ENOUGH TO POSSIBLE BE A LITERAL DOCTOR EITHER. Everyone at the hospital thinks he’s just here waiting for someone or to flirt with the nurse when reality he goes nerd mode and is really good at his job also. And writing stuff about Epic has to be the worst and best at the same time??? He is so funny but also cringe. AND ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME THAT HE WOULD NOT GIVE THE DUMBEST NICKNAMES EVER-
With his s/o he would also probably compare there relationship to a fictional couple like ”we’re just like ___ and ____“🥰 depending on what show he is forcing you to watch (he def takes his partner to anime conventions also) AND he uses those cringe Japanese terms like yandere and tsundere and baka but mostly ironically, AUAUAGAH HE IS SO 😭😭💖💖💕🔥💥‼️‼️‼️
I could ramble about him all day but I think that’s enough simping, but it’s just he’s so auaghaugah. THE OLD COMICS YUGOGEER MADE ABOUT HIM ARE ALSO REALLY GOOD, FOUND ONE WHERE HE IS WEARING AN ANIME SCHOOL GIRL OUTFIT! Most of them are deleted and it makes me so angry like ggrrrrr. I had to scroll through the depths of an old tumblr account to find them all, I saw so much fontsecst… I saw the comics, but at what cost? 😔😔😔
OH AND BACK ON TOPIC, THE HEADACHE HEADCANNON FOR EPIC IS CHEFS KISS!!! Never even thought about how technically all his power is stored in that socket, and it must really hurt him. Mah poor boi 😖 AND SANSES WITH GLASSES ARE THE BEST! Error does have glasses canonically I can confirm. One sans that wears glasses could also be NIGHTMARE. I think this because he has all that goop in front of his one eye and also since he has been around for a loooong time, which could play a part in bad eye sight. And it’s also funny to see him all grandpa mode EHEHEHH!
I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA PICS OF THE CROCHET BOIS, TYSM! They are the DEFINITION of scrunkly 💕 AND CRAM AND JAM ARE AAAAHHH!!! Those names make me wanna go crazy. I want the LOOOORREEEE! I can be MatPat and you can be Scott Cawthon and this could be like fnaf if you get my super duper awesome metaphor! 😎😎😎
And are legiterally so cool fr fr. Kissing you platonically also 😙 MWAH! Love seeing your rants and headcannons omg, I’m not going anywhere anytime soon! 😈😈😈 sorry for very very long ask just realized I went kinda off the rails here lmao
anon don't apologize for the long ask im in love /p
BYT AUUUQGQGG DINT EVEN TALK ABOUT HIW EPIC USES THOSE ANIME TERMS.. youre mad at him for something and he calls you a tsundere AS IF THATLL MAKE ANYTHING BETTER.. BABE I WANNA BEAT YOU STOP TALKING LIKE THAT OMGG but we just like that anime couple he said we were like fr idk i zone out when he turns on anime
BAJSNKSNSK THE FONTCEST im so sorry.. the lengths youll go for epic 💔💔
nightmare deffo has glasses because he is literally a grandpa. he needs his spectacles to see. he can't tell his gang apart otherwise (we aren't talking about canon here ok i love murder time trio theyre soso silly and special to me :3 ) because they all look the same LMAOO
OMG FNAF REFERENCE ‼️‼️‼️‼️ OK OK OK CRAM AND JAM LORE!!! they had an old "owner" who was lowkey kinda neglectful.. bitties are sentient so OBVIOUSLY they can just take care of themself, right? pfft, yeah. so anyway one day they're taken out on the town with their owner and they're trying to come up with a PLAN on how to escape and find a better life (cram was, anyway) and jam just saw my sona (who has other bitties too btw.. i like to make a bitty anytime i get merch of a character like keychains/pins/plushies etc.. it's kinda cringe LMFAOO I LOVE BEING CRINGE‼️‼️) and he's just like "wow that person could take care of us" so they're STOW AWAYS!!! hence the names cram and jam because they crammed and jammed their way into my got damn pockets 😭
I AM GLAD YOU ARE HERE TO STAY !!!!!! answering asks is like enrichment time in my enclosure BAJSKDKCKF
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I would love some Leo thoughts, if you dont mind! <3
How I feel about this character
REALLY FUCKING FUNNY. MY SIXTEEN YEAR OLD DOOMER OTAKU PROPHET MASTER WHO TAKES PLEASURE IN WATCHING ME GAMBLE MY LIFE’S SAVINGS FOR A GACHA JPG
Ultimately I have less to say abt most of the child characters in PH but there’s a lot to say abt how Leo relates to Glen as an entity... the thing is Lacie Knew that in order for society to be restructured to no longer isolate Abyss/to end the oppression of the Children of Ill Omen Glen would need to incarnate without being directly cursed by Jury... meaning that she knew her brother would need to be killed/the Baskervilles destroyed..................... but that’s about Lacie
Mostly he was a traumatized child who was WAY in over his head and like Vincent unreasonably believed that it would be better for his loved ones to have never met him at all than to suffer his existence. Which is why their relationship is so important lol (and why I’m honestly more invested in Vincent and Leo’s relationship than Leo and Elliot’s... we love it when characters are foils)
All the people I ship romantically with this character
Elliot tho I’m not really an ElliLeo person I think ultimately the point w their relationship was that Leo’s complete inability to function without Elliot around was... a problem. And actually this is something I can talk about in my controversial opinions section
My non-romantic OTP for this character
I used to not care about Vincent and Leo’s relationship much but now I think about it a lot it’s so so so good that they’re friends who love each other very much it is literally the funniest shit ever
Their relationship reminds me of Oz and Echo’s in a lot of ways in that they both felt as though they were in the same boat except in this case the two of them made an agreement to actively hack at the base of the ship while it was in the open ocean. Their relationship is Leo going hey wait if we keep doing this Vincent is going to die and I kind of love him actually and this would suck
It’s actually ultimately all words to VINCENT that gets through to Leo, ironically, because he understands Vincent as someone very similar to himself. And while none of these things really got through to Vincent because he finds himself to be fundamentally unworthy of existence it got through to Leo because it allowed him to recontextualize his feelings to be about someone else who he genuinely cared about. It’s good I’ve been thinking abt them a lot recently
My unpopular opinion about this character
ElliLeo is not a bad ship if you ship it that is fine I think it was the least evil outcome for being by far the most popular PH ship. However a LOT of ElliLeo stuff romanticizes Leo’s obsession and emotional dependency on Elliot despite Leo’s arc being about learning to actually see value in his own life outside of his worth to others.
That also comes back to the Glen thing (you see it most strongly in Gil) because the whole process is to convince the person in question they shouldn’t be allowed agency or allowed to want things for themselves. They’re all very deliberately taught that they have no worth outside of their “Master” (when first taught this it’s Glen [as the mouthpiece of the Jury] but the clear implication is that it eventually switches to the Jury itself) because it’s easy to continue the self destructive, oppressive structures Glen is made to enforce if Glen feels he has no power to end them. This feeling still exists without the Jury’s direct intervention, though, because of how being Glen also attracts misfortune to one’s person. Leo sooner convinced himself he was insane than start meaningful conflict with Elliot because he felt he had no place as an active participant in his reality.
And then there’s the whole matter of Leo’s feelings for Elliot being compared to Vincent’s feelings for Gil ad NO. LEO’S FEELINGS FOR ELLIOT WERE NOT UNHEALTHY ON THE LEVEL THAT VINCENT’S FEELINGS FOR GIL WERE, but the point being made on the whole is that obsession with another person without any sort of self worth is analogous to suicide. Ultimately, Leo’s love for Elliot came from a genuine respect and admiration for him as a person, and I don’t want to imply that it’s on the level of Vincent’s feelings for Gil, which are themselves an act of self harm. It’s just... the very obvious conclusion trying to be communicated is that Leo’s obsession with Elliot after his death was unhealthy and self destructive.
Elliot and Leo’s relationship definitely wasn’t inherently unhealthy. It was built on mutual respect and admiration and a desire to see the other and be treated as an equal. I just really hate the way the fandom romanticizes Leo’s dependence on Elliot when it’s something the narrative very deliberately condemns.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
Wish Leo and Vincent had been shown to actually interact a few more times than they were because their relationship is incredibly important to the both of them but they get like 3 really really intense conversations and nothing else
#Anyway yeah so many people read the manga with Vincent Nightray in it#And thought wow I think this is trying to tell me yandereism is epic#Just. C'mon.#answers#ph spoilers#logxx#dapperrokyuu
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four layer epic sagas
are disguising the fact that this is a lying liar who lies.
my family and my sister's spouse's family having a huge celebration party coincidentally in the same day. While I was helping the preparation I'm become suspicious with the quantity of these foods, so I ask my other sister how many we invited again? And she said so nonchalantly that this was only private party are only us and my sister's spouse's family. I was a bit panicked bc they only make some drinks, exactly one tray of hot teas, something in little party glasses idk, and this big-ass bowl of watermelon-pineapple-melon-mysterious fruit punchs.
I literally vaulted over kitchen window to their side, bc there's no time left and I'm the only one that free so I'm helping them cutting watermelons. I was cutting exactly half watermelon before I realize there are 3 bowls in different volumes. I think I get a little nervous breakdown there trying to choose which one to be the Big-ass Bowl with internal voice counting down the seconds.
Spouse's eldest sister literally save me with putting the watermelon I cut to the medium Big-ass bowl and ushering me somewhere about one of her friend need help, and this is only for few minutes and you still can get to the party afterwards, please?
So now I'm trudging forward outside two blocks from house to arrived in some kind of camp center. I'm a bit wary bc they're parking this huge oil truck in the road, with the right are only upper halves of trees visible, and left are a valley. arrived slowly at the entrance of this huge bulding complex, a man with rainbow-spiral-something shirt with huge speaker in hand jogs over and asked if I was the person send by the sister. I said yes.
He then ushered me to tables with girls and boys that even with my nearsighted eyes can tell are pretty. maybe they are models? I thought. but when we nearer and nearer to them and my sight improve a bit, bam, they are not models. They are foreigners!
I'm a bit shell-shocked bc wow, isn't that an actor from a Thailand movie?! I don't know his name, but I knew his face! That clear skin, baby face, and boyish smile.
.........oh god these are celebrities!!!
I'm a bit catatonic when I somehow get into a petticoat dress and staring into the sunset with morose expression while recorded by multiple cameras in different angles.
So actually they're doing filming for a drama movie. something about love triangle but with one female already dead of cancer?? idk. and the lead only minor character i think?
so then the sister friend is actually a producer, and the person that act as this minor role got an accident on-site. So somehow I become a body double on this fine afternoon.
the producer need to assured me repeatedly that my role only needs me to use expression, it didn't have dialogue bc the scheduled recording for this time only for flashback glimpses of the male lead's first love. (i gagged. in my mind only of course. god why did they always use cliche plots? ugh)
but i suck it up, put on my big girl pants, and act. I think I'm astral projecting bc I didn't remember what am i doing that time, but when I see the recording it was like seeing professional actress acted. The afternoon bleeds into red-ish evening, and producer said there's only one act left. 'oh good.' I say, not knowing this last act will become my grave for sanity.
'This act you need to do it with other sub. The role is to be the mother of your character. But i need this to be sad bc you just told your mother about your cancer.' he said.
I just nodded, bc there was some... thing that distracted me. it was the shadow of building lines that was a shade too dark, leaves shadow that moving a tad too erratic. and the fact that the people gradually decreased time after time, and now only consist of main roles actors, crew manning the cameras, the producer, and me. the lizard brain in me say i need to finish this early and came home straight away.
so when I see who will be the mother is, understandably I'm freakout. It was my mom.
'what the fuck?' i said to producer, flailing slightly bc my mom? acting?? what level of hell is this?
i grab my mom, and has split-second doubt about this person was really my mom bc, her reaction? 'oh what are you doing here early? I was searching you half an hour ago, we short of people helping to transport the foods.'
So actually after my family etc finished the celebration, we will give the crew some refreshment foods and drinks, and eventually I will still be the body double.
and all i was thinking is, 'I didn't eat the foods. this is sucks.'
anyway, after a cringing performance by me (bc the other actor is my real mom, it was super awful I'm embarassed, i never feel sad to my mom and now i need to do it? ugh), the sun already set and the place became a bit scary, I already want to go home. But when I want to go with my mom, she said she went with my sister in motorcycle so I can't go home with them. The producer said the crew will get me home, but I need to wait until the filming for this day finished.
Fuck. I need to get away from this place before I jinxed some scary things to appear.
the producer ushered me to sit in the cluster of chair for actors, putting me near the pretty boy Thailand actor. I'm an awkward muffin if someone pretty near me, and my face frozen into blank face. And now my body petrified with only my hands fidled with my phone, bc the pretty boy sat two chair behind me with the female lead actor and whispering to each other in their language.
repeatedly checking time bc when will the filming end?!, i also checking their position behind me, bc i feel they slowly sat nearer and nearer me.
Then i feel a breath blowing in my right ear.
I'm near catatonic in fright as my body tipped over. what the fuck is that. a person? a thing?!
Slowly, I look over my shoulder. Oh. It was the pretty boy. He laughing lowly, his face lights up in joy and his smile is so sweet in his pretty face.
I'm gonna deck him.
Just because he has cute face didn't mean i can't plant my right hook in his face. i hate jump-scare with a power of thousands stars. and he prank me with it!
And that's how for the last two minutes I'm tearing after him with a sole purpose to punch him. okay maybe not his face, maybe I'm gonna kick him in the balls.
I almost got him when he changes trajectory and ran to the road, and somersault a bit over tracks and slid into the crack between trucks. I'm annoyed bc i can't do that, and i don't know other road that crew use to go to the other side. And now he's hiding in the bathroom.
i blinked when i realize that I'm the only one standing in the road. the crew milling only in the camp center or the other side of trucks. and it's dark. and maybe it was my scary thought that make me hallucinate, but there's some dark cloud pouring slowly from the tree.
i slowly back away and trying to run inside the camp, but my body paralyzed right in front of the gate. i was in the process of passing out when the truck barricade moving away, and come two handsome males. i just blink stupidly at them. what the fuck?
one of them is the typical dark prince type. wearing dark clothes, has this perfect five o-clock shadow in his jaw, and piercing, cold blue eyes. while the other is the typical sun princes type. orangey hair, kind face, smiles, warm color clothes.
they walking to my side, 'are you okay? do you need help going inside?' etc etc but I'm still blanked at this, typical shoujo scene. Especially when the first man piercing me with glares as the second male pick me in bridal style.
I have epiphany.
This is some bizzare shoujo world that i lived in. I am the heroine, just because I'm become the body double of the actual heroine. there are 4 love interests. One of them is the pretty actor with baby face from Thailand. the second is a sporty manly firefighter that was moving the truck earlier. and this two handsome males. They have other 'darker' side, titled as Yandere, BDSM, Sociopath, and something about justify something. But I'm pretty sure the dark prince type are the one with yandere tendencies. And this scene, the one with sun prince picked me in bridal style, are the opening for dark prince's route.
and im scared shitless my soul practically dived into my body and wake me up.
#dream#living in a fever dream#a dream of 4 pm sleep everyone#every bizzare dream always happen around that time of the day#i thought this is only weird dream but the ending scared me shitless#this is disguised nightmare
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