#And I know a lot of people don't like Nemma so I thought I'd Share
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karume-everything-else · 1 year ago
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What are your thoughts on this idea? https://www.tumblr.com/aikoiya/722157861322604544/yanganondorf-x-sheikah-femoc-prompt-meeting?source=share I don't recall if I've asked you this before, so if I have, please just ignore this. This isn't a request for you to write it, just a request on your thoughts about it. Like a review or critique. I'm asking because I find that different people have a lot of amazing ideas, so I've been going around & asking those who enjoy writing GanondorfxReader stories their opinions in the hopes of further expanding on the story concept.
So, after reading it... you seem to be working with a nebulous timeline. The references to Ganondorf being Gerudo King doesn't line up with the BotW timeline if the Yiga are a thing. Its easy enough to work around for most story purposes but that by itself can be a little confusing.
As for Nemma as a character, she definitely has a set dynamic arc in learning to trust others. But I'd give her some kind of crippling fear or serious Achilles Heel to keep her more grounded. Something like a fear of bugs/spiders or maybe she just gets weird about giving/selling her creations, which would make her gifting a hand-crafted sword that much bigger of a gesture. Other than that, I would have her carry around exactly one trinket that has no usefulness in battle; that being a small metal Shiekah Eye pendant that her great-grandfather/ grandfather made for her. Perhaps as a necklace or charm on the end of her favorite sword. I could also see her keeping a small bag of Deku Nuts, not necessarily for herself to disappear but as a distraction for stealth missions.
And considering how much she sounds like San from Princess Mononoke, the downward triangle tattoos would look better, also doubles as an allusion to the Shiekah Eye she wants to unlock.
Not entirely sure why you specified Ganondorf being yandere, I think most people put him as such when he is in the height of his powers. He is a king after all, being told 'no' isn't going to be common for him.
All that said however, I thought I'd break up every other thought by what timeline it would happen in. Two strictly canon timelines centered on BotW and TotK, the nebulous timeline you created, and things that would happen no matter which timeline its in. With the stricter timelines having the "necessary" tweaks to Nemma's backstory/motives. This is just how I would handle the story, so please take this all with a grain of salt. <3
Things that Happen no matter what
Ganondorf gives luxurious gifts, but he doesn't make as big a fuss over clothes and jewels. They just show up in the closet/ jewelry box and he has Nemma's usual outfit made of "better" materials with the stipulation that it's still just as functional if not more so. (If nothing can be done to improve it or the finer materials make it less effective then he leaves it alone)
Ganondorf still tries to keep up appearances however and does give over-the-top, extravagant gifts in front of others knowing Nemma won't actually use them. Things like large decorative vases or crowns specially made for her.
Like Nemma, the important gifts are given in their chambers and usually consist of new weapons, cookbooks, maps, things she can either use or would be interested in.
There would be several "fights" before Ganondorf takes Nemma as his wife. Both as a test to see if she's truly a worthy queen/ warrior and because he can't stand the idea of someone being stronger than himself.
He has seen her fight against monsters and that's what sparked the "I must have her" mentality.
The only reason he walks away from these fights is because he makes it very clear that this is just a sparring session between warriors. His way of showing respect... even if his compliments of her skills are sincere.
The only time Ganondorf would ever consider asking/ forcing Nemma to do something would be dressing up for Royal Affairs. Something Nemma would begrudgingly do... but she'd have several hidden weapons and her favorite sword at her side.
^Things Ganondorf both expects and respects. The second anyone says something about how a queen shouldn't have weapons on her person, Ganon draws his sword and openly challenges the commenter because "How dare you disrespect my wife!? She isn't merely a queen, she's a proud warrior and will be respected as such!"
^Something Nemma is on the fence about how she feels because on the one hand; she can fight her own battles and she's used to negative comments about her life choices. On the other; it is nice to have someone openly call her a warrior and defend her honor even if it's over something small.
Two of the most useful gifts Ganondorf gives to Nemma are a well-trained Sand Seal and a well-trained horse. The horse would be much smaller than his own, unless he could get the Great White Stallion to match his Great Black Stallion. But it would be up to Nemma if she even uses either. For all intents and purposes, the horse would be reserved for the Royal Convoy while the Sand Seal would be actually useful when Nemma wants to get somewhere remote to explore before the sun goes down.
Cooking is the first way Nemma starts working with and trusting other people because while Ganondorf tells her about the cooks in his employ; he respects her do it myself attitude. Though Ganondorf does attempt to help, he sucks at cooking. Thus Nemma teaching him.
It was a slow process, but eventually Nemma started cooking for herself and Ganondorf pretty much every night. The only time she doesn't cook is for Royal Affairs, or when she isn't there but that's a given.
Nebulous timeline
Assuming that Ganondorf can, he is constantly going with Nemma on her outings. If not, then he does so once in a while to hone his skills and attempt to keep her safe.
Strict Ancient Timeline (Before the sealing)
Instead of Nemma lamenting the loss of culture, she fears it. Worries that the allyship with the Hyurlian Royal family will bring about the loss of the Shiekah culture.
She would have a decent mentor in Monk Maz Koshia. (I know the timing isn't 100% perfect, but it would be hella cool for her to learn all of this from the master before he becomes a mummy)
Ganondorf would see her fighting a Lynel or some other massive creature, or else bringing in the monster parts to sell/ trade within the Castle Town markets and he would make some quip that seriously pisses Nemma off and leads to their first fight. (Overseen by Rauru and the Hylian Guards since they don't fully suspect Ganondorf of treasonous activity... yet. He gets one chance)
Ganondorf does mellow out some, not to morally dark grey, but he delays his attempts to take over in hopes of corrupting Nemma a bit more. Getting her in on his plans to possibly better them altogether.
Rauru suspects this however and attempts to persuade Nemma to turn against Ganondorf. (This would be after the wedding and around the time the Gossip Stone Earings are gifted.)
When all else fails, Rauru straight-up kidnaps Nemma and seals her away underground. Something Ganondorf didn't fully catch because he was arguing with another royal.
At first, all the Gerudo people are with Ganondorf in his attempt to storm Hyrule and take it by force to save their beloved queen, but too many are maimed/ killed. When Ganondorf tries to rally them a second time, they refuse and mourn the loss of their queen.
Ganon however refuses to let go, fueled by his own pure hatred that is amplified by Demise's curse and the fact that he can still hear Nemma's heartbeat through the Earings.
It isn't until after he falls into the underground that Ganondorf even finds Nemma, and his time waiting is to build up the power needed to break the seal on her.
However, Rauru's seal can only break when the Hero is in great need. (IE when Ganondorf's rage peaks) This causes her seal to break right when Ganondorf is at his most monstrous as Rauru hoped she would see this and turn against him.
But... Rauru couldn't account for how fast Ganondorf would crumble at seeing Nemma hail and healthy again, more focused on apologizing for not being able to help her when she needed him most and the hundreds of years spent in isolation...
The Yiga Clan would revere Nemma just as much as they do Ganondorf and try to find/ resurrect her as well. She becomes known as the Queen of Darkness/ Monsters by them... if she ever finds out, she hates it.
Strict Post-Calamity Timeline
This would be a Nemma all too aware of the stories about Ganondorf and all the more desperate to learn her cultural roots.
She would be extra wary about the first meeting with Ganondorf, even if she did just take down a Boss Bokoblin and his crew... this man was far more deadly.
Ganondorf would consistently seek her out after monster fights, a little annoyed that someone so small can take down his best like this.
It would all be a test, with the last of the fights ending with Ganondorf mentioning how the next fight will be their last. Either due to Nemma killing him, or by him claiming her for his wife.
This could terrify Nemma, or make her question her own need for a partner who can best her/ stand toe to toe with her. But it could just as easily excite and intrigue her.
Obviously she would have to deal with the Yiga Clan suddenly revering her as their Queen the way they have always preached about Ganondorf being their true King. Something she could use to her advantage or outright despise... or both
It would cause a lot of friction between her and all the other Shiekah, no matter whether it was her decision or not.
There would be no way out of being Ganondorf's wife because he would refuse to kill her himself and keep her from being able to perform Senpaku.
Even if she attempted to escape, it would be all too easy for Ganondorf to track her down...
Making this the most similar to the Yandere tag for Ganondorf.
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blogging-not-my-forte · 5 years ago
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OK, So Here’s a  Headcannon for all you Nerds who don’t Ship Nemma but DO Think Emma and Noah are Bro’s. (I.E. Me.)
TL;DR: Noah and Emma were using a Strat.
(This is probably too long but it was important to me to share.)
So, walk with me. 
Noah and Owen go on RR to compete, and Owen wants to have fun, but Noah Wants To Win.��
So this boy starts Strategizing, before the show he’s reviewing all of the programs he’s already been on and picking out what went wrong. It was usually because he’s Lazy or Unlikable, so he makes a note of it to try harder and be Nicer, because he  Really Wants That Money. 
But as he’s making his notes, he notices something… People who have romantic interests make it farther in the games. So now it’s plan time.
So Noah is studying which couples make it the farthest, and the dynamic’s they have and he comes up with a plan. This boy is going to pretend he’s crushing hard on someone, get them alone, explain the plan, and hope to god that it works. The only Hiccup is that Straight couples seem to make it farther (probably ‘cause they’re easier to market) so Noah has to not be Gay for the whole show, which he’ll do because  MONEY. (Though he is a sneaky boy, and brings up the concept of boyfriends multiple times, and grabs two Groom Wedding rings, because he is being ran on Spite.)
So Noah doesn’t let Owen in on it, because he’s bad at secrets and this is important. 
Now Noah is scouting out the perfect Girl, who will be A.) Smart Enough to do it, and B.) No risk of actually wanting to date him, which is when he over hears the sisters talking about how Emma doesn’t wanna do a relationship right now and he’s like “Perfect”. 
So Noah put’s his plan into motion, and starts acting love struck, and people are actually buying it and he’s pumped! 
When they’re on the plane and Owen farts and Emma and Noah both get up and walk away is when he goes to tell her, but first Emma is like, “Listen, dude I’m not interested, so stop whatever you’re doing” And Noah is like “Yeah, no, I’m Gay, but listen…”  So Emma is like “I do want to win….. OK. But I have been firmly Anti-Alliance and also Ant-Relationship so I have to make it look Natural.” And Noah’s like “Perfect” And so they agree on the strat, and Emma starts watching old Reality shows with couples who win on them and things are great.
So mini Headcannon in the Big Headcannon: Noah has Stage Fright, pretty bad. 
So in “ I Love Ridonc and Roll”, it isn’t Emma that makes Noah Nervous , it’s when he opens his eye’s and sees people watching him. He decides to try and play it up as a crush on Emma for strat reasons, but the boy is shook. At first Emma is like “Whatever, guess the Strat’s Done.” But then she’s like “Uh-Oh, we Bonded and Now we’re Friends Uh-Oh. This is why I didn’t want to do an Alliance”. So now Emma has to figure something out without being obvious that she cares but also pretending she has a crush  but also acting like she doesn’t, and Kitty see’s that Emma’s nervous and is like “Oh my gosh, just tell him you think Air Guitar is cute or something” And Emma’s like, Oh no, that won’t actually help because the crush is fake but there are camera’s so I can’t say that. What do I do!!! So Emma, is just like “Mickey can’t do it so it’s chill” But then Mickey CAN So now she has to Sabotage My Sons The Twins, because she doesn’t want to lose her friend!!!! 
Then Owen (Who is still not in on it but has come to the conclusion his little Buddy is Bi like Him, which is AWESOME!) Gives the pep-talk and when Noah says “Uh, Gee Big Guy, I…. I don’t know what to Say…” he’s ABOUT to let Owen in on the secret because Owen IS his best Buddy and he doesn’t want him to think that they’re gonna lose because of a crush, and he’s gonna come clean, but then Owen is all “You need to stop worrying about being some girls hero, and be my Hero!” And now Noah is like “Wow, I’m Gay.” and he goes out, and Emma does an encouraging wave and He Does The Thing!!! (But he still has to do it with his eyes close, because his Stage Fright is still a thing) ((Also he’s super embarrassed that he and Jay share a Phobia))
So Emma and Noah Sneak off for plans and Emma’s Like “We Still on for the Strat?” and Noah’s like “I Am Very Gay, and This Is Going To Be Harder Than I Originally Thought.” And Emma’s Like “I got this, Just Follow my Lead…. Also Next Challenge we can take a break, and you can Just Hang with Owen.” And Noah’s like “Thanks”
And the plan goes on as Normal, and Emma and Noah legitimately enjoy their conversations, even though they have to keep throwing in crush stuff, and things are good.
 Emma figures out that a lot of these couples at this point establish that they wanna smooch, and she tells Noah and they’re both like “Gross”, but then they’re both like “Money” So they start peppering that in. She also put’s together that in most cases, only one member of the couple makes it, and if they part on both 1.) Good terms, and 2.) A Successful Smooch, Likely hood of the remaining person winning is slim to none.  So Emma’s like, “You know what, We’re Friends and I’m mad about it, but I know how much winning means to you, so I’ll make sure I’m the one who goes home first :)” And Noah’s like “Cool.”
But then he over hears Kitty and Owen, and Kitty’s like “We’re doing this so we have enough money for Emma to go to Law School :)” And Noah’s like “Oh No, Feelings.” 
 Emma also Notices that a running theme is “Trouble in Paradise”, So they come up with a “Kinda Break-Up” , where Noah decides to try and throw the Race by “Breaking”, but it doesn’t work, and Emma catches on and is like “DUDE! Don’t you want to Win???” and he’s like “You’re Going to Law School.” And Emma’s Like “Oh, so you think I’m letting You be the bigger person????” And They Argue as Quietly as Possible, before Emma is Like, “Whatever, We’ll Just play it by ear…” 
But Noah is Stubborn and Doesn’t Listen. So In “Got Venom”, Everything is going as  Originally planned until Noah Gets Trapped under the Rugs, and at first he’s like “I can do Effort. I can do Effort for Money.” But then he remembers Emma actually Needs  the Money, and that he can just do another Reality Show and Oh No He Has A Friend and He Hates It. So That’s when Noah decides to throw the Race in hopes of helping his new friend 
But then they mess up, because Emma, who is still trying to play up the crush and is Legitimately freaking out that her new friend is crushed Makes the “I’d Totally Kiss you” Comment, which Noah’s like “Perfect Moment to Make my entrance. This is gonna look great for the camera. Best plan.”  And is like “I’m Here!” and now they have to improvise, which they’ve been doing, but Emma’s really stressed out, And Noah was Kind of Covered in Rugs, so he’s like “What do people with crushes say”  So he’s like “What about that  I’d Totally Kiss You Thing?” And Emma, who is still Frazzled is like “Oh no, What do people with Crushes do.” And that’s when in a moment of panic Emma Kisses Noah. And that’s why, unlike someone who actually wanted a kiss, Noah is wide-eyed and Stiff cause “Oh No The Plan”  and it fades out before we see Emma who is also like “Oh No The Plan.”  
And the Sisters don’t win, But the Reality TV Pros made some new Friends, who, if they ever actually win a game, will help one of them with her college debt.
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