#Amsterdam Pogrom

[xclowniex]

I have seen multiple posts going around making fun of, or minimizing, what happened in Amsterdam from antizionists. So I want to give a timeline of what happened.

Pre the attack:

Before people arrived in Amsterdam for the football match, there were people organizing the pogrom. Stuff like wanting to steal jews passports, were shared on social media. Yes, the word used on social media was jews not Israelis. The main people organizing the attack were arab and muslim. We do not know at this point if all the attackers were arab and muslim, but we do know that at least a majority were. This fact does not mean that all Muslims and arabs want to harm all jews, however the extremism which lead to the attack and antisemitisms place in it can and should be talked about.

The Israeli government got wind of this attack and warned the Netherlands Police, who decided to not do anything to protect jews.

This did not happen because the Israeli team lost, despite what certain people are saying.

Day before or of the attack (unconfirmed which day it was):

Once in Amsterdam, there were some fans who did tear down Palestinian flags and chant a racist anti arab chant. Whilst this is still very much racist and should be labeled as such as viewed as bad, it's not out of character for for European football culture, and has happened before with other fans which have not lead to them being hunted down. The pogrom was pre planned and still not a proportional response.

The attack:

Jews were hunted down, beaten, run over, and many more things. They were also forced to say "free gaza" and "free Palestine"

The attack harmed far more than just those who were racist. They attacked jews and anyone they perceived as Jewish indiscriminately.

Jews were saved by an Arab Israeli football player speaking to them loudly in Arabic so people assumed they were arab Israeli or just Arab.

A Greek man was attacked because he could not prove to the attackers that he wasn't jewish and was in fact Greek.

A brittish man was punched because he helped save jews. And when he told his attackers that he was brittish and not israeli or jewish (not sure if he wasn't, but he told his attackers he wasn't), he was told "but you helped a jew"

Jewish businesses were also broken into.

How and why it is antisemitic:

If at this point, you still cannot see why it was an antisemitic attack, let's recap.

• It was a planned attack on jews, not Israelis, jews. And it was planned before any racist things happened.

● jews were spared if they were perceived to be non jews, including being perceived as arab Israeli and non jews were attacked for being perceived as jews and for helping jews

• Jewish businesses were broken into. If it was about breaking into zionist businesses, ones own by non Jewish zionists also would've been broken into, but they were not.

• Non Israeli jews were attacked

It is antisemitic, as the targets of the attack were specifically jews. It was not revenge for palestine or for racist comments.

Israel intervened and flew people out of Amsterdam as it was no longer safe for jews in the city. Not because they lost the match.

[disgruntled-detectives]

I keep remembering the fact that Elie Wiesel wrote “Night” in Yiddish first. And the original title was “And the World Remained Silent”

Why does that fact keep popping into my head?

Oh…no reason.

[paleshroom]

Guys its SO funny!!! Pogroms are HILARIOUS actually, and Israel immediately sending two rescue planes to pick up the victims is actually just a secret Jewish ploy to colonize Europe isnt that funny??? ISNT THAT FUNNY???

[apricior]

seeing only jewish people talking about the pogrom in amsterdam is the reason why when y'all post about "punching nazis" or being "against antisemitism" i don't believe a single word you say

[freewingthefree]

This has been a horrible and exhausting day to be a Jew in the Netherlands

I am scared and tired and hurting and completely overwhelmed and I havent heard from my friend and I want to know they are safe and Im going to hope they are.

Im just glad that as far as we can tell nobody died, the missing people have all been found, and the injured are being discharged from the hospitals to go home.

Baruch hashem....

I have to be grateful for the helpers. For Mayor Halsema (of Amsterdam) and the public prosecutor working with the Israeli government and public to clear things up and ensure the people responsible for planning and executing the pogrom get charged to the fullest extent of Dutch law. For the head of the police union yelling at the police chief and stepping up to ensure that security got increased at Jewish sites. For El Al donating two planes to evacuate people, for the first responders who rushed the injured to hospitals, and for the security staff who put aside any personal feelings to guard the hotels and airport so there was a pathway out.

We are still here

We will outlive this

Am yisrael chai

[thnxfrthmmrs]

So, the Israeli fans have left Amsterdam and still Jewish people (and people who "look Jewish") are being harassed and threatened.

[kosherkept]

just saw a post complaining because somebody pointed out that the jews in amsterdam being thrown into canals in near-freezing temperatures, and that was too whiny. maybe its because i live in a place with very cold and wet winters, but here if you threw somebody into the river when it was 40ºf outside you would 100% be charged with at the very least assault, at most attempted murder (depends on the lawyer). hypothermia is very real, and i know some people are stupid and think that its just an Ye Olden Days thing, but nature has not grown any kinder or any less indiscriminate in recent decades or centuries

like its absolutely wild seeing people downplay the effect that the environment has on the human body. every time someone says something stupid like "its literally not that bad its just cold" i know theyd die almost instantly if left to their own devices in nature. thats the type of person to wear cotton socks in the winter and not know why its dangerous. its kinda funny how confident they are about it though you gotta be honest

[a-very-tired-jew]

So the court cases for some perpetrators of the Amsterdam pogrom are coming up. We're seeing a few articles about them, potential deals, what the parties on trial are saying, and what the prosecution has evidence wise. Turns out that the persons on trial are trying to maintain that they're just the "average person" who was "scared" or "outraged" at the behavior of the Maccabi fans. This is the same position we've seen antisemites anti-Zionists across social media take. That the pogrom wasn't a pogrom, but instead it was a reaction to racist Israeli soccer fans.

Except the prosecution has evidence from their WhatsApp group that they had planned this well in advance. In fact, according to the prosecution the WhatsApp group was infiltrated by police, so they have plenty of screenshots recording the premeditated and pre-planned antisemitic intent of the attacks.

So now there's the question of perjury. The Netherlands has perjury laws. If the defendants perjure themselves and insist it was not a premeditated antisemitic hate crime as the evidence presents, will they add time? The most heinous thing I'm seeing is that the prosecution is only seeking 2 years as a maximum sentence for one individual. For others they're seeking less than a year.

Considering the nature of the crimes committed, the pre-planning, and the organizing it would or should mandate a higher sentence.

But we might be surprised by what shakes out. Regardless, I feel a little vindicated that the defendants are caught in such an open lie and the antisemites anti-Zionists either have to endorse that position contrary to the evidence, bury this entirely, or eat crow and admit they were (once again) wrong.

[nimrochan]

I’m a Jew in NYC. I’ve witnessed, multiple times, large groups of people marching down streets, chanting for the deaths of my people and tearing down posters of hostages and other 10/07 victims. More than once, people have burned both Israeli and American flags. They’ve spray-painted swastikas everywhere and harassed, even attacked numerous Jews all over the city since 10/07. Most recently, I sat on the subway while two people shouted about how all Jews Israelis are baby-killing imperialists, then watched other people willingly take their flyers.

I’m not the protesting type, but I’ve personally attended a completely apolitical memorial gathering, because I needed the catharsis, where even then, protesters wouldn’t let us grieve in peace.

Isn’t it SO WEIRD that, never ONCE did it occur to me to attack any of them, run them over, throw them in the Hudson River, stamp on their faces while they lay bleeding on the ground, demand their passports, attack NUMEROUS OTHER people who weren’t involved. Not even a fleeting thought of such acts.

It’s almost like… I am not a completely unhinged psychopath 🤔 It’s almost like, people are responsible for their own actions. It’s really not hard at all.

[jewish-microwave-laser]

maybe stop committing genocide if you don't want the shit rightfully beat out of you. How many Palestinians have you murdered again?

oh shit you got me. i, personally, have killed probably 10,000 palestinians from my home in kentucky. i'm actually personal friends with benyamin netanyahu, too, he comes to our kabbalat shabbat services regularly on his private jet or something. he also always makes sure to bring fresh christian babies' blood for us to use in the matzah we eat every shabbat afternoon. damn, i really thought i was hiding it

[xclowniex]

"The Amsterdam attack wasn't about jews it was about racists and zionists"

How about you eat a bag of fucking dicks. Israelis have left. Those shouting the racist chants have left. There is no way you can excuse this.

It is antisemitism. Just like the first pogrom. The attacks have never been about antizionism it has been about harming jews

[the-library-alcove]

(Warning for bitter and dark Jewish humor)

Boy, it sure is inspiring to see Europeans engaging in ancestral traditions that they'd been forced to give up due to liberalizing times! Afterall, this is literally what that 'Reject modernity, embrace tradition' slogan was talking about!

[fdelopera]

Melhem Asad is one of the Righteous Among the Nations.

When the Dutch police were standing idly by -- or worse, aiding and abetting terrorists -- and allowing Jews to be violently pogrommed, Melhem was RISKING HIS LIFE to protect Jews.

The Amsterdam police colluded with these terrorists to allow this pogrom to happen on the 86th anniversary of Kristallnacht. The Netherlands allowed a pogrom against Jews to take place in Amsterdam, the same city where the Dutch sent over 100,000 Jews, including Anne Frank, to their deaths in Nazi concentration camps.

Melhem helped protect our people from that attempted massacre and hostage taking.

Mr. Rogers once told us, "When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping'."

Melhem is a helper. He shielded our people and helped rescue them from kidnapping and murder. He is a hero.

[notaplaceofhonour]

“it’s not a pogrom if the local population of Jews isn’t targeted” okay, bet. and that’s what happened.

[queer-scots-geordie-dyke]

On what fucking planet is a premeditated pogrom literally called a "Jew Hunt" by the perpetrators "football hooliganism"??? Especially when the football fans in question returned to Israel *days* ago and the violent targeting of Jews and Jewish businesses in Amsterdam is still ongoing.

Be so fucking serious right now.

[thnxfrthmmrs]

The behaviour of the Israeli hooligans in Amsterdam was disgusting and deserving of legal consequences.

Mob mentality is wrong. An angry mob taking matters into its hands is never the right response.

There's evidence that the antisemitic attacks were planned *before* the Israeli hooligans had done anything. People were called to participate in a "Jew Hunt" on social media.

I'm sorry that some of your brains can't process the fact that two or more things can be true at the same time.