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raveneira · 7 months ago

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Will Boruto knowing about everything Sumire did for him changes the way he looks at her? I mean as of now he does know that Sumire is unaffected but he doesn't seem to have react much...or maybe he has a lot on his plate right now and simply has no time for romantic thoughts. I'm just curious how Boruto will fall for Sumire if they were to be endgame...what would be the trigger and how would it start?

Well for Boruto what we've seen consistently in both the anime and manga is that Boruto tends to have a strong reaction towards Sumire being in danger, despite acting casually with her for the most part, Sumire's safety is when he reacts differently.

In the anime when she got hurt in an explosion he freaked out and ran to her in the hospital immediately, in the anime he bowed to her and apologized and blamed himself for what happened while in the manga it says he actually cried in that moment. Metal Lee also got similarly hurt but Boruto didn't really react at all, but for Sumire he almost had a full on panic attack.

During the whole Nue conflict Boruto threw himself in danger for her sake multiple times, he got between her and Mitsuki despite her trying to blow up his village, he followed her to Nues dimension despite Mitsuki saying its dangerous, he once again stopped Mitsuki and Sumire from fighting and getting stabbed in the arm in the process, and he refuses to give up on Sumire no matter what she says and wouldn't leave until she took his hand, this is also the first time he ever calls her by name instead of class rep to show his sincerity, which was the final push that undid the Gozu Tennou.

Afterwards when Sumire is facing consequences for what she did, Boruto was furious when he heard Inojin saying Sumire wasn't coming back, he even did something he never does and actually went to his father for help, even though during this time he was on really bad terms with his father, he set aside his pride to beg him to not punish Sumire. In the end Boruto was happy when Sumire was allowed to come back, even though he was too shy to go celebrate with everyone else, he still flashed her a supportive smile to let her know he's glad she's back, which moved Sumire to tears and is most likely when she fell for him.

During the Jugo arc Boruto was furious when he saw what Suigetsu did to Sumire and said he wouldn't forgive him for hurting her

He had a similar reaction when Kawaki kicked the tray of food away and knocking Sumire back

In this case he actually physically hurt Kawaki and had to be stopped, that's how mad he was at him for hurting her that he didn't even realize he was hurting him.

He holds a grudge against Kawaki again for hurting Sumire a second time.

In the manga he hasnt had many chances to interact with Sumire unfortunately but that's not much different than Naruto's lack of interactions with Hinata, who he is now married to with 2 kids so that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Even so we see in the manga that he still has the same reaction in regards to Sumire's safety specifically. He only cared about Ada mentioning Sumire and had no reaction to her requesting Sarada also, just Sumire, and he also only checked in with Sumire to make sure if she was ok with it, he was even nervous about her being alone in the room with Ada and Sarada.

Not to bring BoruSara into this because their irrelevant, but I gotta briefly mention them to make the point.

In TBV Boruto has had no different of a reaction to Sarada than he has Sumire, he treats Sarada with the same stoicism and apathy he does Sarada, the only times he's smiled so far have been to Mitsuki and making fun of Sarada for hugging him which is just his usual personality, but overall he's remained serious and focused on the task at hand without getting distracted.

Its SARADA who has to make the first move, not Boruto, if she didn't hug him then Boruto would've continued to keep his distance and explain the situation, as you saw after the hug he just sat down on a bench in silence waiting for one of them to speak.

This is why Boruto makes fun of her for hugging him, because it was unexpected, he came there to explain what happened to her father and what the new threats are, a 'touching reunion' was the last thing on his mind, so it surprised him when Sarada hugged him rather than letting him finish, which again explains the awkward silence afterwards that Sumire had to break.

Now getting back to Boruto and Sumire, just like Sarada, Sumire is the one who has to initiate, which seems to be a pattern with Boruto in the timeskip currently. Boruto at the moment has total tunnel vision, his focus is entirely on freeing Sasuke and everyone else, defeating the new threats, and reconciling with Kawaki.

Romance, affection etc is the furthest thing from his mind right now, which is why I must mention again that he made fun of Sarada for hugging him, because even he thought that was weird given the current situation, its not like he didn't appreciate the affection, but Boruto's focus is just on an entirely different goal that's way more important. (As you see after teasing her he goes right back to being serious and focusing on the task at hand)

So thats why Boruto doesnt have much reaction to Sumire either, as poorly written as it is for him not to be even a little surprised at her being unaffected, but his lack of reaction is consistent with his lack of reaction to pretty much everything up till this point, his mind is somewhere else, he cant think about catching up with old friends when there's way more important things that needs dealing with, it doesn't mean he doesn't care or cant/wont develop feelings for Sumire, it just means he cant think about that RIGHT NOW.

As much as I hate comparing Sasuke to Boruto even a little bit, Boruto and him ARE similar in that regard, their goals are more important than their potential love interest, it doesn't mean he has no feelings for her or wont have any for her later, he just has his priorities somewhere else right now.

So to answer your question of how do I think Boruto will fall for her...well tbh I think he already has some spark of feelings towards her that he's just unaware of atm, his strong feelings of anger and worry when it comes to Sumire's wellbeing that he doesnt show towards anyone else is a pretty strong hint that his feelings for her go deeper than the rest.

Even if he doesnt have feelings for her yet, then I believe the turning point will be him seeing Sumire badly hurt by these new threats, which may end up happening soon since shes going to the battlefield and Boruto is on his way there as well. If he sees Sumire in danger or badly hurt, then we should see something similar, but not exact, to Naruto seeing Pain 'kill' Hinata in the Pain arc.

Now I could be wrong and that doesn't happen but lets assume it does, then we're going to see Boruto snap somehow someway, his karma has already begun to react due to Kawaki's resonating with his so he's already on the brink of losing control, if he goes there and sees something happen to Sumire then he might lose it, but that's all speculation.

Im sure others might argue this might be what happens to Sarada since her tree dad is targeting her and Boruto would react that way to her instead and yea, fair, its a possibility, I mean if you had put Sakura in Hinata's place Naruto would've reacted the same way too, but the key thing is author intent. Just because another possibility CAN happen doesn't mean that the author intends the same thing, if Kishimoto was really trying to push NaruSaku endgame then he would've 100% made that moment happen with Sakura instead but he didn't, he specifically had it be Hinata because that was his true intent, so the same applies to Boruto here.

It doesnt matter if Boruto would have the same reaction if it were Sarada, he'd react the same to Mitsuki too, the key is the authors intent, and if they're trying to push BoruSumi then they will have a snap moment over Sumire. Thats not to say he cant ever snap over anyone else but again, the key is the authors intent, and you will always see the difference in the framing and execution of what the author intends to be endgame and whats the red herring/platonic.

For example, Naruto snapping for Gaara and Sasuke was totally different than how Naruto snapped for Hinata, the executions and framing were completely different despite the conclusion being the same, Naruto going semi Kurama in a fit of rage, but you can tell by the framing and execution of each one which is platonic and which is romantic.

Naruto snapping over Hinata comes right after she confesses her love to him and tried to fight Pain to protect him while he was helpless to stop it

Naruto snaps over Gaara because the Akatsuki killed him and he related to his pain as a fellow jinchuriki being hunted the same way

Naruto snapped over Sasuke because Haku 'killed' him and Sasuke was willing to die to protect him despite always being at each others throats, seeing Sasuke truly cared for him and was willing to give everything up to die for him made him snap

All of these involves someone close to Naruto 'dying' and him snapping because of it, but only one has clear romantic connotations, so the same will apply to Boruto here.

Whether he snaps for Sarada or Sumire is irrelevant, what'll matter is the framing and execution of it, will it be a platonic scenario or a romantic one? we don't know until we see, so Im placing my bet on that for the time being.

They already copied the Pain arc in the first 5 chapters with the invasion, MC beating the big bad while everyone else stays back and tends to the villagers, unexpected hug by the FMC as the love interest watches, so it really isn't far fetched that they'd copy the snap moment from that arc as well.

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raveneira · 2 months ago

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I was watching naruto vs sasuke on storm Connections and damn it really is better then all boruto tbv

It is, the the plotline of connections isnt even all that original or grounbreaking, its hella flawed too and reuses alot of Naruto concepts despite being a Boruto centered story...which just goes to show you how BORUTOS story is so uninteresting that they had to take OG concepts from Naruto [new Uchiha lore, focus on a new more interesting Uchiha from the past cuz Sarada is so neglected and uninteresting, Pain worshiper, Naruto vs Sasuke, a new war] instead of working with any of the Boruto story because lets be honest...WHAT story? when you really think about it nothing is really going on in the Boruto story, theres no direction, no intrigue, no personal or deep conflicts etc.

You know why Naruto vs Sasuke hits while Boruto vs Kawaki doesnt? because there was extensive build up of their bond, their rivalry, their conflict, and reconciliation, so when you saw the roles reversed with Naruto and Sasuke in Connections, it hits HARD because you know just how far Naruto went to save Sasuke against all odds and everyone calling him a fool he never gave up on him, now that role is switched to Sasuke, and now he gets to be in Narutos shoes fighting his best friend trying to snap him out of it, and he even repeats the same words Naruto said to him which hit so hard because we KNOW just how HUGE of an impact those words had on Sasuke when Naruto said them after their final fight, they literally brought Sasuke to tears.

Compare that to the role reversal goin on in Boruto, you remember the hype from this panel right?

Oh the hype was strong in this one, atleast from those still invested in the series up till this point, this was CRAZY right? the endless possibilities, expectations were through the roof, and what happened? what was done with that potential? absolutely NOTHING

This panel is the equivalent of Gohan telling Buu he's not gonna fight him, he's gonna kill him, only for him then to fumble the entire fight, top 5 hardest lines in the series thrown right out the window with zero pay off, this panel is literally that because it went NOWHERE.

Its honestly ASTONISHING how much this concept has been wasted, and I personally despise it but hey, even if I personally dont like the approach I could still appreciate it if it was atleast executer properly and actually done well, its not like omnipotence couldnt have been used for some great conflict, character building, character development, Boruto really could've grown alot from this and understood his ignorance and priviledge all this time he'd taken for granted, understanding the loneliness and life full of hate hes had to live all his life, for Boruto this is only temporary and forced to be directed at him, but for Kawaki this was REAL nobody MADE ppl hate him they actually DID

Boruto knows everything their saying to his, feeling for him, thinking of him is actually towards Kawaki, these feelings arent fabricated these are ppls REAL feelings towards Kawaki, and Borutos only had to endure this for 3 years of his life while 12 were full of happiness and love, but for Kawaki this was his life for OVER A DECADE, and even with the 3 years that have passed since the brainwashing Kawaki is STILL going through it because everytime ppl hate Boruto around him, scorn Boruto, wish he were dead, call him an ungrateful traitor, he knows their talking about HIM

So even though hes technically taken Borutos place being loved by everybody, he KNOWS that THESE are their true feelings about him, so while Boruto has only lived Kawakis hell for 3 years, Kawaki has lived it nonstop, he cant even escape it back at 'home' because its not even his home fr, its his prison with Ada and her little brother who constantly taunts him about how he'll eventually be exposed as a liar and how he unlike Ada doesnt care what happens to him, just reaffirming what he already thought and believed about himself to begin with.

That nobody would care or miss him, nor mourn his death, but be happy to rid that 'garbage' from the world. And Shikamaru and everyone who appeared in chapter 78 proved him correct.

So you would think that Boruto, now in Kawaki's shoes, experiencing what Kawaki's experienced his whole life

Hated by Kara/Code

Hated by the Otsutsuki hes a vessel of [Isshiki/Momo]

Hated by everyone for being an outsider bringin in trouble

Hated by those who were once his friends

Hated by his own family [to his knowledge, he doesnt know how Hima feels yet]

You'd think he'd have a moment of reflection and actually get where Kawaki is coming from, he obviously wont know how he feels exactly because they still had totally different upbringings but atleast he gets the gist of it now that he's in his shoes, so you'd think we'd have him reflecting on that much the most we get is this.

This was a good start, he acknowledged his screw ups and how his playing down of the situation lead to this, his ignorance from being so blessed blinding him to Kawaki's perspective, that it was easy for him to just go on like everything would be ok but thats not the way Kawaki saw it, he never asked how KAWAKI was feeling or what KAWAKI was going through, he only yelled at him for being 'stupid' instead of LISTENING to him and actually HEARING what he's saying. He's given Boruto glimpses multiple times of what he was thinking and feeling, but everytime Boruto downplayed it, just brushed it off as them just needing to train and get stronger and just have faith that his dad could handle it and if they just get strong enough too then it'll all work out too, BUT THAT WAS NOT REALITY and Kawaki pointed out why it wasnt, but he went ignored.

The only one who didnt just blindly yell at him was Mitsuki, HE is the ONLY ONE who ASKED Kawaki and LISTENED to what he had to say, and he was the only one open to doing things his way as well, but Boruto and Sarada unfortunately, so blindly follow Naruto's idealistic views, did NOT listen to him or hear him here, instead they both accused him of going too far with too extreme logic, when really he was just being realistic.

So It was good seeing Boruto acknowledge everything I pointed out about how we got here, it left things off where we would hopefully see Boruto have a whole new perspective towards Kawaki and how he'd approach reasoning and getting through to him from this point on, there was alot of potential now for some really interesting interactions and-

Ima save you the reading time and just spoil it, nothing came from this, if anything he listens to Kawaki even LESS now than he did before and have become even MORE arrogant and dismissive of him.

Im gonna take a stab in the dark and say in an effort to try and make Boruto DIFFERENT from Naruto in trying to save Sasuke, they made him actually looking for a fight, he doesnt want peace with Kawaki, he wants problems first and THEN peace afterwards

Twice he says his goal is to knock sense into Kawaki and then reconcile, which is the opposite of Naruto, he WANTED to talk things out but knew he couldnt and had no choice but to fight, but Boruto WANTS to fight and THEN reconcile which is...a choice, but not a good one to try and distinguish him from Naruto with because it just simply doesnt make sense.

If his goal is to make this a mere quarrel between siblings, not brother killing brother, then why would he NOT try to resolve things without violence with him? why withhold information? why taunt him? talk down to him? treat him like a nuisance? act as if you dont even WANT to deal with him in the first place? threaten to chop off his danm arm just for asking VALID questions?

if you wanna make this just a brothers quarrel then hes doing a terrible danm job of it because hes just making Kawaki look even MORE justified in wanting to kill him, which makes no sense even in the context of protecting him from being exposed because it was him and Kawaki alone most of the time, Delta seeing Boruto show Kawaki some humility wouldnt have affected shit, all it does is let her see Boruto treat Kawaki like he actually cares about him, that does literally NO harm to Kawaki's image because ppl knew Boruto and Kawaki cared about eachother already anyway, regardless of what 'Boruto' did to Naruto that doesnt erase everything that happened between them before that

Even if we throw all that aside and say no ppl dont think they care about eachother and that Boruto supposedly just turned on them all now, NOBODY WAS AROUND at some of interactions that he has to pretend for, as I said Delta means nothing, Kawaki was one on one with Boruto after he told the others to leave while he confronted him with Code, he again wasnt around anyone when he confronted him again when it was just him and Delta, so why did Boruto still put on the tough guy act? I get they had other important matters to get to but Boruto is able to walk and chew gum at the same time, so if he wanted to show some compassion to Kawaki then he could have but he DOESNT.

And thats why storm connections take on the role reversal plot is leagues better than Boruto's because there is just NOTHING to it, chapter 80 HINTED that they were going to start building more on it and doing something interesting but instead they just make Boruto discount Sasuke and gave him a completely OOC edgelord persona, which is crazy that their trying to make him like Sasuke WHEN THIS IS HOW SASUKE ACTS IN HIS EXACT POSITION AND ITS NOTHING LIKE THAT [8:26-13:55]

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You will NEVER see the same kind of emotion with Boruto and Kawaki as you saw here with Naruto and Sasuke, and thats largely because its not written by Kishimoto and it shows

Whereas Naruto and Sasuke werent ever adopted or raised together like siblings yet still saw eachother as such anyway, Boruto and Kawaki actually lived together and were treated both as Narutos sons, Boruto and Hima acknowledged him as their brother, Kawaki was considered family by the Uzumaki fam, so this situation should have even MORE emotional weight than Naruto and Sasuke who were bitter friends/rivals, Boruto and Kawaki were family, and yet their entire conflict is emotionless, dull, forced, and uninteresting to watch unfold.

But to be fair Ikemoto did fk them over a bit because Naruto and Sasuke atleast knew of eachother for years, and then spent a whole year with eachother as teammates whereas Boruto and Kawaki spent less than a year together so yea, great way to really prevent this plot from hitting as hard as it could have if you werent rushing literally EVERYTHING and giving them no room to settle but it is what it is sadly.

The only saving grace is Ikemoto implying Kawaki is gonna get more development in the future but I wont hold my breath on that because he also said Sarada and Sasuke's future would be interesting, and we all saw how that turned out, yea bein off screened by Code and Sarada barely reacting to the news of it sure was interesting ._. peak fiction.

The Connections game should have NEVER came out because it just puts how severely lacking Ikemoto's attempts at these concepts PALE in comparison to the OG, and its not that Boruto and Kawaki CANT measure up its that Ikemoto is an incompetent lazy writer who fails at one of the core things Naruto is known and praised for and thats its EMOTION. The fact that the sequel to Naruto lacks so much EMOTION is fkin insane, its mind boggling how Ikemoto could work with Kishimoto personally and NOT pick up how to add emotion.

Do you realize the last time we've had a real emotional moment in this manga is while Kodachi and Kishimoto was still involved in the writing? and now that it has been taken over entirely written by Ikemoto there has been zero emotion? go back and read the timeskip from the first chapter to now and show me where there was any emotion besides Inojins 'death' that was just used to give Hima a rage moment to awaken Kurama, but Im talking an ACTUAL emotional character moment, or just scene in general, you wont find one despite Boruto being a perceived traitor and Naruto being dead but with no body to even mourn him, and Sasuke siding with said traitor is also just glossed over like nothing nobody even talks about it fr, keep in mind thats Sakura's husband and Sakuras friend [Naruto] and we got zero insight on how shes takin it, or Kakashi, you get the point.

Ikemoto not only doesnt know how to convey emotion well through expression [take a shot everytime Ikemoto just has somebody mean muggin or straight faced oe sweat drop with wide eyes that may or may not be cross eyed] and you'd die of alcohol poisoning pretty quick because hes unexpressive the way Kishimoto was, but he lacks emotion in his writing also, so he lacks in expression AND writing emotion as a whole which is...pathetic for the one writing the sequel to Naruto which is a series FULL of emotion, the fact that writers for a danm non canon VIDEO GAME got this right but Ikemoto the writer for the official sequel to Naruto fails miserably at.

Its sad, but even this flawed game was still written leaps and bounds better than Ikemotos Boruto.

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