#AND PAPYRUS IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAN BRING THAT KINDNESS OUT OF HIM EFFORTLESSLY!!!

[delta-experiment]

CHAPTER 3 OUTLINE: OUR NEW FAMILY MEMBER

Previously, on Delta Experiment...

Frisk overheard a conversation between Sans and Dr. Gaster. They and "Chris" resolved to investigate the skeletons.

Gaster brings Sans and Papyrus into his house, and lays down some very strict rules, keeping Sans and Papyrus at arms' length and making it very clear that he isn't taking them in out of kindness.

Papyrus reveals that he was expecting their new family member to be a little more... friendly. Sans assures him that he might be a bit of a stick in the mud, but he's still their family. Papyrus tries to cling to hope.

I actually started working on this sequence! Though it was still unfinished (and looking at old art is always painful), I might as well post it.

(Insert multicolored lights underneath the door)

Sans steps through the door, ending up in Gaster's workshop, where he's looking at a chart of the SOUL on his big screen.

Gaster explains his experiment to Sans off-screen.

Over the course of the chapter, Frisk, Asriel and "Chris" were going to befriend Papyrus (who was being bullied by Dess, whose class he was in).

Sans takes Frisk to Grillby's. Frisk is anxious, knowing that Sans is aware they were spying on him. Grillby notices that Frisk seems uncomfortable at first, and decides to start juggling glasses in order to make them feel better. The whole diner cheers.

Sans informs us that Grillby's daughter goes to the same school as Frisk. Grillby shows us a picture of his daughter, Fuku, that he keeps in his wallet. Frisk seems to think that they don't look much alike, as their flames are different colors.

Sans remarks that looks can be deceiving. He teaches Frisk a trick. By opening one eye, they can sense the colors radiating from people's SOULs. Each of these traits corresponds to a specific virtue.

This is a special ability that only people like Frisk and Sans can pull off. In fact, they've already exhibited this ability a few times in Chapter 3...

(Perseverance.)

(Patience and integrity.)

From now on, Frisk will be able to sense these traits at will, which will allow them to read people more easily. Doing it for too long can be draining, however, so he advises them to use it sparingly and secretly.

Frisk notices that there are many distinct colors, though they don't see any red.

They also notice that some people's colors are brighter than others. Grillby's kind action for Frisk makes him glow a bright green for the moment -- in this way, he matches his daughter. Meanwhile, Mr. Drake is a sickly, pale yellow. They're not sure what this means.

Sans tells Frisk he's aware that they've been listening to their conversations. His brother likes them, so he makes them a deal -- Come to his house and hang out with his brother, and he'll give them some more answers.

Toriel comes in, upset at Frisk for sneaking off with some stranger. Sans remarks that this must be Frisk's wonderful mother... or maybe she's their Nanny(goat). Toriel, despite her anger, is unable to keep a straight face as she marches off with Frisk.

Sans comes to Toriel's house to set the record straight and set up the playdate properly. He brings flowers, which makes her uncomfortable at first, until she realizes they're only water-squirters. By the end of their conversation, they "befriend" one another.

The children head to Sans and Papyrus' house. Asriel and Papyrus start playing Dragon Blazers together, while "Chris" tries to get Frisk to sneak off. You have the option of either going to try and find Gaster's study, or to go and talk with Sans in the back of the house like you agreed. For the sake of this summary, I'll assume the latter was picked!

Frisk goes around to the back of the house to meet with Sans, who tells them the true nature of his and Gaster's relationship.

In summary, Gaster, Sans and Papyrus originally came from another world -- a world filled with skeletons, in a city named Helvetica.

In that world, when Sans was a child, he found a newspaper ad containing a strange survey with seemingly-nonsensical questions. He answered each question with the funniest response he could think of, and received a thank you card in the mail each time. These surveys eventually led him to W.D. Gaster, an eccentric scientist who was looking for a student.

Gaster was an unfortunate skeleton. His font was unreadable to most, essentially a speech impediment. However, he created a creation he called his "voice box" -- essentially a text-to-speech program -- to allow himself to communicate.

Their world was the world of the dead, but Gaster wanted to enter the world of the living. He believed that there was a way to do so by harnessing the power of the SOUL and its many colors. However, this process requires two participants -- hence the need for a pupil.

Sans became Gaster's pupil, and learned much about the SOUL. He learned a special trick -- by closing one eye and focusing, he could see the colors radiating from people's SOULs, allowing him to be unparalleled at reading people.

One day, one of Gaster's experiments goes wrong, and all of the color gets sucked out of his SOUL as a result. From that day onward, Gaster changes, becoming seemingly cold and unfeeling. He loses his sense of bravery, justice, kindness, patience, integrity, and perseverance... Earlier in the chapter, when he said he wasn't taking in the brothers out of kindness, he meant that he was physically incapable of it.

Believing he's reached a dead-end, and cannot maintain any close relationships in his "broken" state, he creates a machine to take him to another world.

Gaster disappears, and (not wanting to leave his little brother with his abusive Grandpa, Semi) Sans brings Papyrus with him into the next world. Gaster was the only person who showed him kindness, and Sans still believes there must still be good in him somewhere -- if he can only find him, he'll show him.

Sans and Papyrus traveled through many worlds looking for Gaster. In every world, they found that he had created some great machine and then disappeared, becoming an urban legend and leaving some piece of himself behind (such as his missing finger). And, in every world, there was some kind of other world he was trying to reach -- the Surface, the world of the living, outer space... a different form, but the same story. Gaster, undeterred by his many failures and determined to succeed no matter how many times it took, kept continuing his plans in each new world.

Papyrus never stayed in one world long enough to make friends. Every photo in Sans' album -- the ones with "various people you don't recognize"-- came from a different universe. Sans would show Frisk some of these photos as he tells the story.

(* It's raining memories.)

Frisk asks why he's telling them all this, and Sans says Frisk should know why. Frisk doesn't answer at this.

Sans implores Frisk (and us) to let this information sate their curiosity for the time being. Looking too deeply into things will only bring despair, and he promises that whatever happens, it will all turn out for the best in the end. They just need to be patient.

There's more to the story that Sans doesn't tell Frisk. Specifically:

The Undertale world was seemingly the last world on Gaster's trail. In that world, something especially catastrophic occurred, and Gaster was well and truly shattered for good. The Sans of that timeline fell into a depression -- the machine was broken, and the trail ran cold. He couldn't go home, and he couldn't find Gaster. They were stuck.

However, something extraordinary happened. Somehow, a new world was created-- one in which the monsters were on the surface-- and everyone was placed into it, including Gaster. No one knows how this is possible, but Gaster believes it has something to do with the SOUL.

In a meta sense, he believes it was the many combined hopes and dreams of the people who played Undertale, their wishes for a happy ending, that was able to create this new world. Gaster's plan is to recreate whatever process led to this being possible.

Sans was going to discover the existence of the Undertale world because Alphys was receiving some strange phone calls from what appeared to be Sans himself. As it turns out, the Undertale Sans was able to contact the Deltarune world. The FUN events in Undertale (including the fridge and pizza delivery prank calls from Sans and Alphys) were going to be tests that the Deltarune versions of them were making. It also would have explained Alphys' "research" on other universes, and Sans' remark about "the other sans-es". The badge in Sans' drawer was a prototype of the same kinds of badges the Gaster Followers wear -- something Sans kept from their days in Helvetica.

Deltarune Sans would have met Alphys in the grocery store, and recognize that his voice sounded familiar. Sans helps her track down the signal, and after coming to grips with the existence of alternate universes, they would decide to have a little "Fun" with it. Alphys says she couldn't possibly mess with the timeline like that, but with a little pushing from two Sanses...

Back at the hangout, Asriel and Papyrus bond over their frustrations with their new family members. Asriel is upset at the fact Frisk seems to be spending more time with "Chris," who is rude and scary. Papyrus is upset at Gaster's lack of humor and strict demeanor.

However, through their conversation, both come to the conclusion that they should try their best to be patient, in hopes of one day becoming a real family.

Asriel decides to be patient whenever "Chris" acts up...

Papyrus decides he'll wait as long as it takes for Gaster to come around...

and Frisk decides they'll enjoy the life they're living, without worrying too much about the experiment... for the time being.

(Cue Cyan Flower!)

Frisk meets up with "Chris", who says they couldn't break into the study. However, their face is looking paler than usual... They tell Frisk that they need to stop trying to find out things about the skeletons, and instead have to stay away from them as much as possible. It's clear the experience has spooked them in a way nothing has thus far.

The group all heads home, with "Chris" trying to provoke Asriel again, but this time, he lets it roll off his back, determined to be patient.

...

Deep in the night, "Chris" emerges from their slumber.

Head hanging low, they walk out of the room, and down the stairs... drooling from the mouth.

CHAPTER END

[popatochisssp]

hiya poppy! i dunno if this is a silly ask but I’m a bit curious… do any of your unique boys have weird condiment obsessions or comfort foods?? tale sans has ketchup, swap paps has honey and so on, i assume that the rest of hoodie gang (what i loosely refer to the lazy brother role as) has the same weird habits. mostly curious about ash, brick, ell, nemo, sunny!

(Anon, I know you did not initially send this on anon, and you included an Art with it that I enjoyed very much, which is why I was so very upset to somehow lose this ask??? Luckily, tumblr cannot eat my emails so I still had the text saved and can at least answer the question, but if you wanted to re-add your art to this post, I would like that very much 😭)

I did do a favorite condiments/toppings post ages ago, when I only had ten of these losers, so it might be about time to update it!

Sans (Undertale): Yeah, it’s ketchup, he likes it on anything and everything, and he will drink it straight ‘cause he’s a terrible gremlin man. He started doing it as a joke to freak people out but it grew on him and, uh… well, now, he just likes it. This is his life and he has no shame.

Papyrus (Undertale): Nothing so uncouth as his brother, ugh! …But… on occasion…very rare occasion, mind you! He…has been known to sneak a spoonful of peanut butter straight out of the jar… Just the one, though, he never double-dips! He’s not disgusting!

Sky (Underswap Sans): As far as condiments go, he likes relish! He won’t eat it straight, if anyone’s looking, but who doesn’t like a hearty helping of it plopped onto a hot dog? Or a hot cat, he’s not picky! Spicy or sour is equally fine, just not the biggest fan of sweet.

Paps (Underswap Papyrus): Nothing new here, he likes honey a whole heck of a lot, though mostly just to sweeten his tea… or in a candy-bar, or drizzled on a pastry or something… Damn, he’s making himself hungry just thinking about it…

Jasper (Underfell Sans): Mustard, obviously, anything else on a ‘dog is the blatantly incorrect choice. Also pretty good on a sandwich, but you’re never gonna catch him guzzling it straight from the bottle. He never tried to pull that prank like his classic counterpart did, and never got accidentally hooked on his own condiment of choice. Ha!

Pyre (Underfell Papyrus): He’ll deny it to his dusting breath, but you cannot bring Nutella or any kind of chocolate spread into the house and expect it to still be there when you come back. He will eat it directly out of the jar, the whole thing, especially if he’s had a hard day or something. You’ll just never find the evidence. He’ll do it with ice cream, too, so y’know…keep an eye on your groceries.

Mal (Swapfell Sans): He likes spicy flavors so any kind of salsa or hot sauce is a favorite for him. His tolerance is damn good, so he can–and will–pull a Power Move and drink it straight if he feels the situation calls for it, but he generally just likes it on his food, like a normal person. Don’t test him, though, remember the freak that lies just beneath the surface…

Rus (Swapfell Papyrus): Can he pick literally everything sweet ever? No? Okay, then it’s probably maple syrup that he likes best, he’ll have it on waffles, in candy, or even to sweeten up some normally more savory foods like beans or ham or just about anything else you can think of. …Not that he, uh…really knows how to cook, himself… But he was a picky eater as a kid and syrup was easy to get in Snowdin, so it was usually used as a bribe to get him to eat A Thing He Didn’t Like and it’s a bit of a comfort-flavor for him now!

Slate (Horrortale Sans): For obvious reasons… he’s not picky. He’ll eat anything– burnt, flavorless, or even a little moldy, just drown it in ketchup and it’s good as gold. Like his classic counterpart, he’ll drink it straight, but surprisingly he’s also developed a bit of a fondness for mayo, mostly post-surfacing. It is not an unusual occurrence to find him just eating it straight, especially if he’s managed to get ahold of one of those squeeze-tubes that make it even easier. You might think he’s trying to pull a vanilla-pudding-in-the-mayo-jar prank but…alas, it’s real.

Papy (Horrortale Papyrus): He’s in the health field and knows in great detail why this is a thing he should probably not be doing but… You know those tubs of whipped topping…? Yeah, he’ll eat that with a spoon until the, “Oh My God, Why Am I Doing This” thoughts hit him and he shamefully puts it back. It would easily be one of the most mortifying moments of his life if you ever caught him at it, standing in front of the fridge in the dark at two in the morning like an oil-and-corn-syrup-loving cryptid.

Ash (Undergloom Sans): Worcestershire sauce is probably his top choice of condiment. His brother’s cooking has spoiled him a little bit, so plain old ketchup doesn’t quite cut it for him anymore. A lot of his favorite foods are hearty, heavy, meaty or all of the above, and Worcestershire can go on and in most of them! Now, will he drink it? No, probably not… but if there’s any on his plate that he can sop up with a bread roll and eat, he absolutely will be doing so.

Yrus (Undergloom Papyrus): No one can know. Whenever he buys those little jars of maraschino cherries, it’s for garnishing drinks or desserts or whatever else he might need them for, and when he cleans out the jars to reuse them for other things, there’s no reason to wonder what he’s done with the juice, probably dumped it, right? Well…no. He drinks it, straight from the jar, like some kind of fucked up, bookish skeleton hummingbird. Don’t judge him!!!

Brick (Horrorfell Sans): Whether he acknowledges it or not, he’s living a bit more of the high life these days than he used to, and with that tends to come some upgrades in the little things around you. In his case, that means he still prefers mustard over any condiment, but it’s Dijon mustard specifically that he tends to reach for—a bit fancier, more of a bite to it, and now the plain yellow stuff feels like a downgrade. He’ll eat whatever, he’s not picky, but y’know…if given the option…

King (Horrorfell Papyrus): He has no such vices…that he’ll admit to. But neither will he back down or show even a hint of shame if you catch him squirting a bottle of chocolate syrup straight into his shaker full of milk that you may have previously assumed was a protein or workout shake of some kind. As for whether or not he’ll drink the syrup straight… You’ll never catch him. Don’t even try.

Merc (Horrorswap Sans): Probably sweet-and-sour sauce for him, there’s a lot of different things to use it on and he likes the versatility of that. To the point that he’d drink it? Yes, sure, boldly so, in front of anyone, admittedly mostly as a bit for the reaction but hey, it’s tangy and delicious, no regrets!

Ell (Horrorswap Papyrus): His favorite topping to snack on is also a backfired prank. His brother is a baker and buys more new and unnecessary kinds of sprinkles than anyone could ever reasonably need, and he may’ve stolen a bottle or two to see how long it’d take him to notice. …And then maybe…grazed on them a little bit one time, when he was hungry and busy and didn’t want to get up. In his defense…they’re crunchy?

Pitch (Horrorswapfell Sans): He’s still all about the hot sauce, baby! Buffalo sauce in particular is probably the favorite, perfect for wings, but he’ll branch out if there are options—especially if they’re advertised as the hottest around, or put to him as a challenge. He’s a defiant thrill-seeker at heart, he all but has to drink it straight from the bottle if someone thinks so highly of it.

Nemo (Horrorswapfell Papyrus): He’s a caramel fiend. He pretty much always has been, in its candy form, but pretty much as soon as he started cooking for himself and realized how easy it was to just put a few things in a pan and have caramel sauce? It was over for him, he does it all the time now. It’s lucky if it actually makes it on top of anything because he’ll eat it by the spoonful almost straight out of the pan, but if he doesn’t, it’s still a perfectly good snack after it’s cooled a little. Not even store-bought jars last any longer in his house.

Sunny (Gastertale Sans): He loves a good steak sauce, obviously for steaks but on pretty much anything—burgers, sandwiches, jazzing up some veggies, what can’t it do? He’s not quite at the level of drinking it straight from the bottle, but it can seem close some days when he’s really slathering it on.

Aster (Gastertale Papyrus): Definitely some kind of weakness for tahini. It makes such a good dip, or spread, or partner with jam on toast to make a not-quite-pb&j, so even though he doesn’t usually find it on a menu, he tends to keep some around the house. Would he eat it all by itself? Has he? Well, what’s the fun in just telling? He has some kind of mystique to maintain, you know…

Spectr (Transcendtale Sans): Ketchup is super nostalgic for him, a very comforting flavor. He’ll totally drink it straight or eat it out of a packet just for the taste of it, even if he doesn’t have the hunger to actually eat it with something. He’s also gotten a bit more adventurous, though, and is a lot more open to trying different varieties of ketchup, and those trendy combos with other things—spicy ketchup, mayochup, thousand island—if it’s available, he’ll try it, and he’s slowly amassing a personal catalogue of favorites tried all across the globe.

PapAIrus (Transcendtale Papyrus): He doesn’t eat. He doesn’t need to and he’s not actually capable of it, so… It’s fine, he really doesn’t miss it or think about it much. …But whenever he gets around to having that back-up body made, probably the first thing he’d eat with it is a big jar of peanut butter, the crunchy kind.

Xanth (Ascendswap Sans): Having almost completely done away with any sense of shame and a large amount of awareness of social norms, he is no longer shy of straight-up eating relish. He is also not shy of going for maximum sour, vinegary flavor and will fully sip pickle juice out of the jar. He is living his truth and we are all so proud.

Piper (Ascendswap Papyrus): Did I call somebody else a hummingbird? I should’ve saved it for him, he’s graduated from honey to something a bit more concentrated—agave syrup. He follows the trends a little more attentively these days, gave it a try when he heard about it as a honey-substitute, and that was…kind of it. His sweet tooth is his weakness, and he doesn’t even mind paying a little more for the ethically sourced brands, he’s too hooked on that super-sweet sweetness for his tea and candy and pastries and whatever else he can find to drizzle it on.

Carmine (Underfell Fruition Sans): He’s a cool ranch guy, all the way. As a dip, it’s the perfect accompaniment to anything crunchy and he’ll freely load up his carrots and celery and chips with it. As a proper condiment, it’ll go on anything from pizza to burgs, and while he’s definitely taken a swig once, just to try it, he probably likes it better as supporting cast than the lead act.

Tank (Underfell Fruition Papyrus): He was ruined the first time a jar of marshmallow fluff came into his possession. He didn’t get much in the way of sweets growing up, so pure, soft, sticky sugar…? He has no defense against it. He’ll actually need to be told you can make things with it if you want to, because eating it with a spoon is all he knows and that’ll be a beautiful brave new world for him.

Vi (Swapfell Fruition Sans): He’s a barbecue sauce fan. His preference is for the smoky or spicy kind, but even the sweeter stuff has its charm and he hasn’t really eaten a kind he hasn’t somewhat liked. He won’t take a swig from a bottle, but if he ever comes across a brand he really likes, he may go out of his way to buy some to take home, and that's a huge compliment from him.

Hunter (Swapfell Fruition Papryus): Butterscotch is his thing, actually. He likes it as a topping in sauces and cocktails quite a bit, but if there happen to be any butterscotch chips around, that’s more to his preference. Be wary trying to get any baking with them done around him, he actually prefers them outside of the baked goods and he’s not above petty theft. In fact, he’s below it, far below it, a little quick yoinkery is the least of what he’ll do to get something he wants.

Kohl (Descendtale Sans): He’s a soy sauce kind of guy. It’s salty, savory, and strong, a little goes a long way even to overpower a flavor you’re sick of, but you have to eat because it’s nearly all there is… Yeah, he got a little hooked on it when monsters started eating the echo flower root, and it stuck around as a new favorite after. Would he drink it? Not unless it would be really funny, he has limited room in the tank these days and would prefer to use it for food he likes, not on a bit.

Bram (Descendtale Papyrus):  Nothing beats a nice crème anglaise drizzled over something sweet… Of course, he’s not much of a cook so mostly he just waits for vanilla ice cream to melt and that’s basically the same thing, right? Ice cream soup is delicious and also a perfectly valid topping for all manner of deliciousness, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it!

And as for comfort foods…well that’s a whole other post to update! ;)

[sauce-salad-bowl]

SAW YOUR SANS UBDERTSLE HEADCANONS... ohh foaming at the mouth. getting down on one knee my lady we need a oneshot about sans and reader getting high together

hehe hi!! :3 so ironically enough, i’ve been working on a one-shot with a very similar idea for a little while now, and i didn’t wanna end up writing about stuff i already write a lot about, so i decided to do a few headcanons instead… 🥹

i hope that’s okay!! i tried to be creative with them, cuz i felt bad i wasn’t writing another little fic… you can drop another request if this isn’t to ur liking!!

(the one-shot i was working on b4 is up on my ao3, but it’s rated E, so pls keep that in mind)

OKAYY without further ado, what’s it like to smoke with sans?

When you first start dating Sans, you’re excited to be with a partner who actually enjoys smoking with you! Although he’s not the kind of guy to do it every day, if you ask him to smoke, you’re hard-pressed to find a day he’ll say no to you.

Sans says his favorite part about smoking is the social aspect— he enjoys sitting around with the people he cares about, just chatting and relaxing. It’s not the same when you don’t got people to share it with.

The only thing Sans brings to the smoke sesh is himself and a lighter— only so he can make puns about how you “light up his soul” or something. It’s always corny, but it always makes you burst out into giggles.

He’ll say he’ll get you back for it, but he conveniently always forgets his grinder when he comes over, so you’re not too sure about that. Next time you’re smoking at his place.

Has a preference for joints, since bongs are hard to fit around his teeth. Every time he brings it to his mouth, it makes a little *clink* noise.

Smoke comes out of every hole when he hits it: his eye sockets, nasal cavity, and his teeth. You won’t tell him this, but it sort of looks badass.

Sans never coughs, due to his lack of lungs. He seems to find it pretty funny when you’re bent over and hacking from a nasty hit, but he’s still always at your side with water if you need it. “take it easy, kid. the weed’s not going anywhere.”

When he’s starting to feel it, his little eye lights will start to get pink and fuzzy, and his voice will drop a bit lower. He’s confident when he’s high, teasing you easily with whatever joke his hazy mind can manage to come up with.

Something about Sans getting high also inspires him to cook. After a long session, you’ll usually find him bumping around in your kitchen, managing to create something you have no idea he can make. When you ask about it, all he says is, “who do you think had to monitor pap’s cooking?” Of course, he always makes enough food for the both of you.

Never gets paranoid, except when his brother texts him during a sesh. Then he gets convinced he’ll appear out of nowhere and catch you two smoking. You’re not sure how to break it to him that Papyrus definitely already knows.

It makes him soo sleepy. Most nights he’s over, he’ll fall asleep on your porch or on your couch, head rested right on your shoulder. You can never bring yourself to wake him up, so you simply let yourself drift off to sleep with him, body buzzing with warmth

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i hope these were cute!! sorry this took me so long to get to!!

[stellocchia]

I noticed you reblogging dsmp stuff, so assuming you're a fan of it too. And I wanted to ask: do you think c!Tommy and Killer Sans could be friends if a crossover were to happen?

I love them both and it makes me happy to think they'd help each other heal, but I don't know how accurate it is

Hey, doesn't need to be accurate to make you happy, if a headcanon brings you joy, then that's good!

That said, I do think they would get along, how healthy that would be for either of them, however, would strongly depend on the circumstances of their encounter.

My main worry is that both of them have been repeatedly beaten down and pushed toward getting rid of their boundaries and toward relying on the abusive figures in their lives (with Wilbur and Dream being the main culprits for Tommy, and Chara and Nightmare for Killer). So I'm a bit unsure of how good either of them would be at asserting what they need and what they're comfortable or uncomfortable with.

Beyond that though, they would get along great.

Tommy is actually rather similar to Color IMO. He's got a lot of the same mentality in regards to helping people, always doing what he thinks needs to be done. And his whole speech to Foolish about how he's not a fan of the concept of giving people second chances, because that insinuates a limit to the amount of effort one should put into a relationship, really does feel like something Color would think too. He's also the same kind of hot-headed but genuinely kind guy. So I think his personality would put Killer at ease.

He's also generally really perceptive when it comes to reading other people. Hell, by the time the exile arc came around, Dream only got a chance of getting in his head because he kept him entirely isolated, half-starved, physically repeatedly beat him down, and kept destroying all the resources Tommy managed to procure. And even still, Tommy eventually managed to see through a lot of his bullshit and run away. And that's rather good since Killer has been shown to use manipulation to get out of uncomfortable situations before (see his fight with Blue). Having people around him who can tell when he's bullshitting would probably be safer.

I also always tend to see Killer as someone who does crave companionship and some semblance of normalcy. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to have some kind of family structure. And, hey, lucky for him, Tommy is little brother coded. And he's not a Papyrus, so the risk of him constantly triggering Killer by just existing around him is nowhere near the same. There is the issue of Tommy being human, but I feel like he's different enough from Chara that it shouldn't be too big of an issue.

Funnily enough, the only thing I can think of that could create some genuine friction between them is that Tommy heavily dislikes cats (they're the only animal he despises). But, then again, he's not a complete dick, and he's had his pets slaughtered in the past (a lot), unless Killer locked him in a small cell with him and continuously triggered his exile trauma like someone else did (aka Dream) he wouldn't kill his pets. If Killer has his cats, that is. He probably would just kinda ignore them.

Them meeting wouldn't even be so weird, whether Killer still works under Nightmare or he's traveling the Multiverse with Color, because the dsmp sure as Hell is rich with negativity and would be a place of interest, whether it is to help or, like, cause even more.

I do think things will go over better if Color is there, though. And Tubbo too. Color would be great at helping with the whole boundary issue and at keeping tension from rising on Killer's part. And Tubbo and Tommy are tied together so closely by the end of the story that I think they'd both stress the fuck out if they were facing powerful strangers too far from one another.

Also, by the end of the story, Tommy has his emotional support pink sheep, and Killer would love her. Killer loves all animals, and I'm willing to fight people on that opinion, but he especially loves cats, insects, and particularly colorful creatures, the latter two because they remind him of Color.

Anyway, I think I rambled way too long there.

tl:dr, yeah, they'd probably get along, I can deffo see that

[autisticsupervillain]

It's Fictional Throwdown Friday!

This Week's Fighters....

Sans vs Noelle Holiday!

Conditions:

Noelle as of Chapter 2 of the Weird Route.

Scenario:

The Player mods the game to put Noelle into Undertale to recreate the Weird Route. Sans stands in her way.

Analysis: Sans

The man. The myth. The legend. It's the King of Tumblr Sexymen himself: Sans.

For everyone who's been living under a rock since 2015, let me give you a quick rundown. Sans is a Skeleton Monster who lives underground in the town of Snowdin. He works as a Sentry with his brother Papyrus on the look out for humans, though Sans puts considerably less effort into it than his younger brother. He appears to be nothing more than a lazy bag of bones who simply can't be bothered to try to capture Frisk.

In truth though, he's much more than meets the eye. Sans had some kind of relationship with the Underground's previous royal scientist Dr. Gaster and is strongly implied to be an accomplished scientist himself. He's aware of the effects of DETERMINATION and knows that Frisk can reset time at will. Knowing that all of his decisions can be reset by some alien entity at a moment's notice has turned Sans into an apathetic nihilist who can't bring himself to do the bare minimum of his job anymore.

As such, Sans instead acts as the Judge, watching the human from the shadows and observing their actions. Sans remembers every friend they make and sees every life they take, and he will hold them accountable for each. Though, it's only when the human makes it clear that they're a threat to absolutely everything and everyone, everywhere, that Sans steps into the ring himself.

Sans is the weakest enemy in the game. 1 attack. 1 defense. Maybe even 1 hp. And despite all of that, he's still more than capable of kicking your ass. Firstly, his attacks directly hit both body and soul, to the point of completely destroying the soul in seconds as he ignores your physical durability. Secondly, his attacks come from nearly every direction simultaneously, putting the Player through hell as they have do dodge attacks that spring out of the ground beneath them, alongside lasers that spin all around them from his summonable Gaster Blasters. And third, Sans is remarkably fond of abusing his teleportation. Not to dodge mind you, as he's fast enough to side step everything Frisk throws at him, but to attack. He doesn't need to touch his foe to teleport them around the battlefield, even into his other attacks if need be.

It helps that he is easily the fastest monster in the Underground, capable of dodging attacks from a Sea Tea amplified Frisk even in his sleep, who can dodge lightning.

But the most damning ability in his arsenal is his KR. KARMA is a soul poison that infests the target's soul as soon as they make contact with any of Sans' attacks. The common theory is that it does more damage to the opponent depending on how many people they've killed, as implied by the name and the text when you get hit by it "You can feel your sins crawling down your back".

Sans also has Blue Mode, where he increases gravity on the target's body and soul to pin them down and make them easier to hit. Sans uses these in conjunction his blue attacks, attacks that only do damage if the target is moving when they get hit, do disorient and rapidly obliterate his foe before they can think. Overwhelming assaults are the name of Sans' game and he'll pull any trick he needs to in order to win. Including things that are.... hard to quantify.

See, Sans is somehow capable of attacking you... even when it isn't his turn. He completely ignore the rules of the RPG world he lives in to attack you on the menu screen. Which, as you can imagine, is a hard thing to translate to a non-rpg fight. Do I just assume all encounters monsters follow rpg-rules? There's genuinely an argument that can be made for it, I suppose. One thing I am willing to give him however is his ability to pause the battle by just... not taking his turn. Even when all his other tricks fail, Sans can force a deadlock by just doing nothing until you give up and go away... unless, of course, his opponent is capable of doing the same kind of meta bullshit that he is. When Frisk also breaks the rules by attacking twice in one turn, Sans is caught out by it and dies. Which leads me into Sans biggest weaknesses...

He's still the weakest monster in the game. Monster Kid is stronger than he is. For all his memetic qualities, he's physically the weakest fighter to appear on FTF thus far. Not to mention, his own apathy keeps him from fighting unless he absolutely has to and his laziness completely tanks his stamina.

Even with those factors though, Sans has earned his memetic reputation as a ballbustingly hard boss. When you hear those first few notes, you know you're fucked.

Analysis: Noelle

Noelle Holiday does not have a happy life, to put it mildly. While this cozy little hometown, lovingly called.... Hometown, may feel serene on the surface, but there's a tragic undercurrent that the entire town is dancing around the topic of. Noelle and the Holiday family is right in the center of it.

Noelle's sibling went missing some time ago. Disappeared without a trace. Leaving behind an empty hole in Noelle's family that looms over the entire town. This has only gotten worse in the modern day, with her dad Rudy bedridden in the hospital. For as much as he puts on a happy face, it's clear he's not getting better any time soon.

All of these issues are brought to the surface when Noelle and her friend Berdly are dragged into a Dark World within the local library, a magical realm formed by a Dark Fountain where all the inanimate objects within are brought to life. The library computer became the Queen of this Cyber City took Noelle and Berdly in to be her minions. Well.... mostly just Noelle. Berdly's just kinda there.

Queen took a motherly role over Noelle. An overbearing mother with incredibly high expectations. Genuinely loving but smothering all the same. Queen sees the well of potential in Noelle's proficiency with ice magic and wants to nurture it to cover the Light World in darkness.

How this plot is supposed to resolve is Noelle finally being forced to put her foot down and stand up to Queen, taking back just a little bit of control over her life when it had otherwise been completely out of her hands. But.... you always have the option to break the game instead.

Enter the Weird Route. A route that should not exist. Noelle's ice powers in the main path are already devastating, but in the Weird Route, the Player, through Kris as their Avatar, is able to mold her into a weapon to use them to their full lethal potential.

Heal Prayer and Sleep Mist are powerful support abilities that allow Noelle to heal herself and allies or put her foes to sleep if they're weaken or tired, but they're not out focus. IceShook is what allows things to start going off the rails. This ability alone is the only one in the game that kills enemies outright, freezing them solid and leaving a lifeless ice statue in their place.

The Player would have Noelle use this ability to systematically kill every enemy in Cyber City, regardless of Noelle's discomfort. Noelle's dear friend Kris is made to pressure her in more and more threatening ways, from breaking puzzles to murdering salesmen to get their items. Emotionally abusing and breaking Noelle into a weapon that gets stronger and kills their enemies without hesitation or remorse.

Noelle is forced to wear the Thorn Ring, a torture device that causes Noelle agonizing pain to make her stronger. Finally allowing her to cast Snowgrave.

Snowgrave is a massive blast of ice that creates a snowstorm. Fatally freezing anyone caught in its wake. Even Noelle's friend Berdly.

Creating a snowstorm that covers an entire city like that would require energy equivalent to 15 Megatons of TNT.

This coming from someone who is fast enough to dodge electricity directly from a wire at near point blank range. A speed feat requiring reactions near 99% light speed, as that's how fast electricity moves through a wire.

Even when awakening from the Dark World, Noelle's actions follow her into a waking nightmare. Berdly doesn't wake up with her and when Kris confirms that everything wasn't just a dream, they don't speak with their own voice. They speak with ours.

How this will effect the overall story of Deltarune in the long run is difficult to say. But one thing is clear. You took Noelle at one of the most vulnerable points of her life and turned her into your subservient weapon. You fucking monster.

Throwdown Breakdown:

This fight is fairly complicated, but in a different way than Sans's usual matchups. The fact that Deltarune and Undertale both play by meta self aware RPG rules means that the usual complexity of translating Sans's abilities to a matchup is negated, but there are still some issues that need to be addressed.

Firstly, Sans should be capable of dodging Noelle's regular attacks just fine. For as fast as Noelle is, Frisk can dodge similar electricity and light based attacks, and Sans can literally dodge them in his sleep if he needs to. Noelle, meanwhile, would be having a lot more trouble.

Noelle is the same girl who needed to have the Dark World's RPG mechanics patiently explained to her the first time she got inti a battle. Sans' cheating bullshit is not something that she would be able to adapt to quickly. Not only are Sans' attack patterns a lot more aggressive and complex than any enemy Noelle has engaged with in Deltarune (Spamton NEO is an exception but he's killed before he even gets a chance to attack her), but she's never dealt with anything equivalent to Blue Mode either. Combine that with the teleport spam and attacking during turns and Noelle runs a risk of getting overwhelmed before she can break out her biggest trump card.

But, said trump card is also this fight's biggest question. Can Sans dodge Snowgrave?

It is important to note that Snowgrave is not Noelle's usual opening move. Even when the Player's control over her is nearly complete, she still pushes back a lot before finally using it. It's entirely possible that Mr "Why Don't People Use Their Strongest Attack First" could overwhelm her before she breaks it out. This is especially true when she's made to fight people she knows and Sans is (an alternate version of) someone who lives in her hometown. She won't be as forced as she was against Berdly, Deltarune Sans has only just moved in and is not someone she's particularly close to, but that resistance will definitely be present.

Would Sans be able to realize that she's being coerced because of this? Maybe if she starts arguing with the Player openly about it, but otherwise doubtful. He'd just find something weird about her facial expression. For as much as he knows about timelines and as smart as he is, Sans does not definitively know he's in a video game and doesn't know that Chara or The Player are even a thing in the Genocide Route. He thinks the anomaly is Frisk. He lacks the frame of reference to fully get what's happening here. Not that it'd really change his approach here.

But to stop dodging the point, a do think it's entirely possible for Sans to dodge Snowgrave. While Snowgrave creates a massive snowstorm, the actual danger zone of the attack is a big wall of ice moving in a straight like. Do think Sans has both the reaction speed and the means to dodge it.

Does he dodge it every time? No. If he's caught off guard by it, he's fucked and he'd have to teleport to avoid it. But I do think he potentially can.

When all of the above is taken in one package, I think Sans wins more often than not. Noelle can absolutely obliterate Sans if she gets her killshot off, but there's too much working against her character wise to get that consistently.

Tl:dr, Noelle gets beaten up by a grocery store clerk.

This Throwdown's Winner is....

Sans!

[recklesslycaffeinated]

Sans and Alastor

I’ve been thinking a lot about Sans and Alastor. Or Sans versus Alastor. But not who’d win in a fight (Sans) or who’d win Eurovision (Alastor). I’ve been thinking about them as characters, because that’s what I do.

At the heart of it, it boils down to this. Sans is a fundamentally good person living in a fucked-up world just doing his best. Alastor is a fundamentally evil person living in a fucked-up world also doing his best.

Dorks – Let’s get the most obvious one out of the way - they’re both dorks. Come on, both pun! Okay, Sans puns ad nauseam and Alastor claims he does in Hell’s Greatest Dad. Alastor has the dork part more than covered by his massively adorable poses when he’s just hanging out.

Big Smile, Scary eyes! – These loveable dorks are all fun and games. I mean, look at them, they’re always smiling! Until they turn on the scary eyes and you know not to fuck with them. This is the peek behind the curtain. The warning. Obviously, they could kill you right there and then, but why expend the effort when a dose of scary eyes will do the trick. Then it’s right back to a big old smile.

Dirty fighters – Paragons and Paladins need not apply. Both Sans and Alastor know the important thing about a fight is that they survive it. If that means avoiding a fight with bad odds, when it becomes unavoidable, using every trick in the book, that’s what they’re going to do. There’s no honour here. Sans is going to get in a massive attack before you’re even able to click a button and Alastor is going to hurl his minions at Adam – go get ‘em, boys!

Always a bigger fish – So far you’d think these guys have it all. Not so. These guys are living in an oppressive world and they’re not the top of the heap. If they were invincible, we wouldn’t be rooting for them as much. No need for cheerleaders if you can’t fail. I can’t tell you how many Let’s Play Genocide Runs I’ve seen where the Player is screaming for joy when they finally kill Sans… only to look suddenly horrified and miserable at his death. Alastor got his ass kicked by Adam, but I’m thinking more of the reveal that the big bad bully who scared Husk half to death is, himself, in a deal and isn’t happy about it. I’m sure that gave a lot of people immediate empathy with him.

Thinking outside the box – Sideways thinking has always been a trait of interesting characters and we’re invited into their minds to see a little of how they view the world. As a deal making demon, this is kind of Alastor’s whole shtick – he’s always finding the angles. For me, I think it’s the moment he gets Charlie on a deal which won’t involve her ‘harming’ anyone – which is a loophole so large you could drive a double-decker bus through it.

The best example for Sans is the fact that he and he alone of all the Monsters dodges. This is clearly not something Monsters understand or do. I have my own pet theory for why this is, but either way, Sans is not thinking the way he’s expected to.

Ultimate power – Sans and Alastor who could literally destroy you and everything you’ve ever known. They’re adorable silly boys with the power to bend reality.

However, this is where a key difference comes in. Because what’s important is their goals. In other words, what they’re using their ultimate power for. On the Genocide Run, Sans is trying to frustrate the Player long enough that they give up and Reset, bringing back his friends and family. Alastor is after hell domination. Maybe in series to come, we’ll find out it’s actually to ensure that bunnies and kittens can roam free… but I doubt it.

Does this make Sans better than Alastor? Well, ask a Player who’s been trying to win Sans’s fight for years who annoyed them more, Alastor in Hazbin of the Sans on their computer.

This isn’t me, FYI. I can’t do the Genocide run. If I had to hurt Papyrus, I don't know what I'd do. Turn off the computer and never use it again. I also almost cried when I accidentally killed Toriel on my first run. I immediately Reset and Flowey mocked me for it. Bastard.

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Regressor FLOWEY headcanons!

-Involuntary and trauma regressor. Enough said.

-He cries a lot. He was an extremely sensitive child, and the extra things he’s gone through (and did himself) don’t make that better.

-It’s not so much regression as it is…acting his age? Flowey doesn’t really ‘act’ like a child at all. When he lets himself do so, he can be more tolerable and sweet. I guess he’s be closer to an age dreamer, then.

-But give him a pacifier and he will slip into a much younger headspace. We’re talking toddler to infant.

-Regression means he doesn’t have to think about RESETs or timelines or anything past the present moment, but he’s also a really big crybaby.

-His regression fluctuates a lot. He could switch from infant to little kid at the flip of a coin. It’s hard to track what headspace he’s fully immersed in.

-The only ‘gear’ he has is a pacifier Papyrus gave him one timeline (which he has subsequently stolen every other timeline). He cherishes it and panics when he loses it. It’s pastel orange with a red race car on the front.

-The only people he’s felt comfortable with were Papyrus, Sans (Papyrus left them alone together one time and they have actually formed positive bonds some timelines) and, later, Frisk (though that’s only on extremely rare occasions when neither of the skeletons are available).

-When he was alone, to shut down his regression - which was often confused with memories and sentimentality - Flowey would just…kill things until it went away.

-Either that, or shoot bullets at whatever he could find that wasn’t a monster.

-He hates when Toriel or Asgore try to do anything with him while he’s regressed. It’s partially because it brings back dangerous memories and partially because neither of them are what he needs or wants most days.

-He can be very quiet and shy one second or fussy and demanding the next. It really depends on who’s taking care of him.

-Can and has sobbed about multiple of his old genocide runs out of the blue.

-Regression is almost like traveling to the past for him, which has a 50/50 chance of ending horribly. He doesn’t understand where his older sibling is or why he’s not being called by his name some days, which freaks him out.

-He’ll respond to ‘Asriel’ absentmindedly.

-Regression is strange to him. It’s like reaching for a memory you know used to be there. He can act as lovey-dovey and sweet as when he was Asriel, but whether that’s genuine is debatable. After he gets back into a more sensible headspace, Flowey wonders about his lack of a SOUL every time. It feels genuine, sure, but why? Memories, going back to a time where he was happy, shouldn’t be enough to alter his physical state. He’s SOULless, and therefore can no longer do things like that properly.

-He has auditory processing disorder and prefers hiding under thick clothing like sweaters if he’s being carried around. It muffles noise.

-Papyrus is his main caregiver. Or Sans, if they’re on good enough terms.

-Flowey despises the very feeling of regression. Every. Time. It just makes him angry when he notices it. Asriel is dead, should be dead. So why is he still just some kid? Why does he still crave what he decided was meaningless RESETs ago?

-When Toriel was sleeping in the RUINS, he would pop out of the floorboards occasionally to watch her or, if he felt particularly uneasy, rest with her in bed.

-Asriel was an extreme people pleaser. He was taught to be kind, which led too often to him being a doormat. Regressed Flowey is similar, and won’t like outwardly saying what he needs.

-Sans once found out Flowey was Asriel one timeline and called him ‘little prince’ when the flower regressed at his house. Flowey has attempted to erase all remnants of that RESET to no avail.

-Sans will also call him little prince/prince by instinct, which Flowey feels mixed about.

-He loves coloring and plush toys. However, the sharp thorns on his vines makes crayons and stuffed animals difficult to grab without hurting them, so he…doesn’t get many opportunities.

-There are times where he regresses for a full day and does nothing but sleep. He’ll fall asleep in the patch of golden flowers and panic when he wakes back up.

-Papyrus understands that his friend doesn’t like being public with his thing-Sans-also-does (Sans is a flip but shh that’s another post), so he tries very hard to take care of Flowey privately when he can. When they were in Snowdin, Flowey would stay in Papyrus’ room.

-Only Papyrus, Frisk (and by extension Chara), and oddly enough Toriel consistently know he regresses. Others have forgotten across SAVEs.

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Daily ask №17!

Undertale edition!

Frankly I've had an idea for this edition for a bit now, just needed a confirmation that you do know undertale after all.

The fault crew just somehow fall down into Mt. Ebott. Simultaneously. Without the ability to get out without breaking the barrier, so the canon way where they have to go through the whole underground. How well does that go? How do you think the undertale crew reacts to them? (By undertale crew I mean Toriel, Papyrus, Sans, Undyne, Alphys, Mettaton, Asgore and Flowey/Asriel.) This ask will only have 3 questions so you can write this out in details if you wanna.

How do you think would the undertale soul system work combined with Fault's lore? And if every character did have a soul, which color would they have? Like from the classic determination, Bravery, justice, kindness, patience, integrity, etc. also you can make up your own souls if you wanna!

Which characters do you think are the most similar to respective characters from the fault crew and why?

man I think there’s like a whole fic in this answer! Fascinating prompt since so much of undertale is influenced by Frisk’s humanness

1.The guys and flies being so openly monstrous would mean everything shakes out pretty differently. I suppose Wilbur would get mistaken for a human at times and it would make him furious. But past that would really, really do well with a culture who has been oppressed and misaligned by humans. It would find a lot of camaraderie there. But everyone just being so openly calling themselves monsters is a huge shock for the SCP crew, since that’s a pretty big trigger for them. I think it could be healing to find people so openly embracing the term. Especially with the variety of UT monsters that use it/its pronouns. 

After falling, both Phil and Tubbo are really concerned with how they can’t fly out no matter how hard they try. It leads to an air of trepidation before Tubbo finds the buttercups and brightens since yay apparently they won’t starve in a cave. (Tommy: what about the rest of us?!) Sucks to suck. Tubbo is initially enamored with the idea of a talking flower, poking Flowey and causing him to bloom even more. Flowey’s thought process is immediately 1. Where the hell is Frisk and 2. Does that bee guy have three human souls. Flowey is Extremely Wary of Tubbo since he’s highly aware what that level of power boost means. But also he harasses Frisk anyway, and would probably pull the friendliness pellets trick on Tubbo who’d deffo be gullible enough to go for it. At which point Flowey promptly gets set on fire. Kill or be killed mother muffiner. As for the philosophy, Wilbur and Tommy already align with it, only killing in self-defense. Philza and The Blade don’t really see their death as a possibility when attacking, so they nitpick from that angle. Philza*, Tubbo, and Tommy have also lived lives (*at times) without threat where it isn’t necessary to kill in order to survive, and so can disagree that way too. And Tubbo of course brings pacifism and finding an alternative to the table. 

As weak as Froggits are I honestly don’t see any of the guys bothering to kill them, unless one hits The Blade. They’re not really seen as a threat. Wilbur might even seek them out to eat the bullets. Honestly most encounters are highly influenced by the ‘attack the human’ mindset so they’d probably have a much easier time than Frisk. I doubt they’d even notice power increase from LOVE. 

I think it would be funny if Philza feels slightly threatened by Toriel and they become competitively Good Parents to the Fault guys in a subtle rivalry. Tommy is outraged by snail pies but Wilbur digs it. She and Tubbo trade baking recipes, and Tubbo promises to leave a few bees to look out if a human falls down and needs help. I don’t imagine she’d try to fight them to remain in the ruins, given not humans and are clearly protecting each other. 

Papyrus is vexed at how easily they’re able to get around puzzles thanks to various abilities like flying, bees, void, insta win gg mod, etc. But once revealed they have experience with humans he’s enthused to find out ways to trap them using that knowledge. Wilbur and The Blade adore the traps for enrichment, and Tommy also gets competitive about it. Phil and Tubbo help guide the traps away from being accidentally deadly. Wilbur and Papyrus date would be absolutely hilarious because neither of them know what that entails. 

The Blade and Sans get along wonderfully in the lazy and deadpan humor department. But also Sans is keeping an eye on him because of his crazy high LV. Like, Phil’s is also insane, but it doesn’t compare to The Blade’s at all. Turns out it’s The Blood God’s LOVE that is pinging, and Sans is like…wonderful, now i have two mass murderers that get possessed by demons… anyway Sans is definitely watching very carefully, because this is a neutral route. 

Undyne is probably going to get herself killed tbh. She’s an attack first ask questions later gal, and that is not something you survive with the SCP squad. Sadg, I want her to train with Phil, The Blade, and Tommy. Plus the contrast between how she and Wilbur feel about human halter is phenomenal. Wilbur probably WOULD believe she knew what she was talking about with anime. 

I fully believe they straight-up murder Alphys if they find the True Lab. And they will, because Tubbo can be kinda everywhere and would be utterly horrified, trying to rescue all the amalgamations. It’s a particular affront to them given combining souls against their will is a HUGE problem for Tubbo specifically. And even before then, everyone’s possibly already be skittish around her before then because scientist and surveillance cameras. Alphys digs into their Foundation trauma in a pretty big way. I think she locks herself in the lab if Undyne dies but that really won’t stop them. It’s nowhere near as secure as the Foundation. 

Okay. Mettaton is in a VERY interesting position. Because technically The Blade’s Instant Win battle luck does not apply to robots, or things that are dead, and as a ghost robot Mettaton is exempt. So The Blood God would not be triggered. The Blade might fight on his own for the novelty of it, and let him win, again, because hey! He gets a choice! That’s sick! Tommy is voguing his brains out. Plus cool friend he can hug because robots aren’t affected by Red. Yes Mettaton thinks him and Wilbur are human and are trying to kill them buuuuut that really won’t deter Tommy that much. 

Asgore is very shocked with the fact there are apparently monsters on the surface still. When informed the Foundation exists and hunts them down, he grows really grim and more convinced that a war is the only possible solution when they get to the surface. The Blade is like wait that’s a GREAT idea. Wil, Tubbo, and Tommy think he’s crazy. Philza is actually the one to talk Asgore out of it, explaining how it’s infeasible, that it’ll only spread monster hatred like wildfire and ideas are so much harder to kill than people, that it’ll only earn danger and retaliation that’s likely to get his children kingdom slaughtered. Because. Well. Philza has definitely toyed with the idea before, and understands exactly how badly it would go. Philza is homicidal, not stupid. 

Finding the children’s souls in the basement would go really bad. Philza is furious because he’s pretty anti child murder, which is extremely uncomfortable for The Blade, who feels revolted that someone is willingly and intentionally doing so. But also he gets sacrificing innocents for freedom, and being confronted with what that looks like taken to extremes messes him up. Tommy and Tubbo are just completely horrified. Wilbur…honestly I don’t think it’d care that much? He doesn’t really have that societal/evolutionary ‘protect the kids’ thing aside from striving to get normalcy for Tommy. Who isn’t human, thus is within the tribe. And Wilbur personally thinks killing THE KING OF THE NATION THEY’RE IN is an extremely fast way to die! Unless monster society works like the void; ie who ever kills the top of the heirarchy is now in power. But also Asgore hasn’t attacked them. The Blade is always down for anarchy, but guilty about what that means for what he deserves, and Philza did just have a speech about declaring war is a bad idea. So Asgore lives, but I figure Philza and WIlbur have the political machinations to get him out of office and Toriel on the throne (Wilbur does it for the pies).  

Tubbo tries to talk to the souls, which…potentially plausible? The souls have down basic words and if Tubbo beckoned them there is a minor physic link but I’m not sure how much that could further communication. I believe they’d offer the souls to join the Hive in order to have a second chance at life. Not sure who if any would accept, but that could potentially have a lot of interesting implications. 

Regardless, they have enough human souls to get out. Because of Fault crew’s experience they’re a little reluctant to return bc the Foundation hasn’t harassed them, but the monsters are eager. I think under the advice of SCP squad they’re going to avoid actually getting into human society, but the emergence of a likely segregated town of monsters with a high enough population that humans can’t just fully attack is feasible. In the long run it is really good for Fault sbi given they have a place to settle with a community and general protection from the Foundation. 

2.Honestly the soul systems have a decent amount of overlap. Potentially some subconscious inspiration, there. Things like souls giving power to those that absorb them, multiple souls sharing control of a body, traits associated with souls, humans/people being more powerful than other types of souls. Fault people/UT human souls share some similarities, with the souls being powerful and the bodies being weaker, with Conceptuals/monster souls being the inverse. 

But I think on a number of key facts they contradict irreconcilably. F!People souls can’t be taken without consent/consequence in Fault, which is distinctly not the case in Undertale for Humans, and don’t persist after death unless absorbed/combined with a Conceptual, let alone get ripped out and put back in like we see with Kris. For Conceptuals, when they die they leave behind an object that represents their soul. It persists after death unlike monster souls. You can eat the representation for power tho, but I hope Frisk isn’t snorting lines of Monster dust! 

Undertale human souls are distinctly defined by a concept, whereas Conceptuals are defined by two and F!people are distinctly exempt from being defined by a core concept because they are real and thus able to change, grow, act outside of their natures. I think UT human souls are made of emotions which is a small fraction of a Fault soul, let alone monster ‘magic’ having no analogy. 

Flowey. Man. Flowey doesn’t work with the Fault system, given he’s soulless which just isn’t possible? All sentient beings that can form relationships, experience emotion, have memories, and have agency have souls in Fault. If you’re missing even one of those you’re screwed in different colorful ways. Since Flowey isn’t like a husk he has to have a soul. Like potential one could argue he’s missing emotion given the lack of empathy but he clearly has fear, spite, hatred, curiosity, etc. anyway the God of Hyperdeath fight would never shake out like that in Fault since people souls tend to be suited to overpowering a Conceptual (though willpower is a factor). 

I suppose it could be sorted out with Conceptuals, monster souls, and people souls being separate but the UT Human souls throw a wrench in since at the very least Tubbo and Tommy have those. The soul systems are alas fairly incompatible in a number of big ways for both plots.

Exclusively under the Undertale system: Tommy would definitely have a human soul and boss monster one. Tubbo is the three human souls, and potentially a normal monster one..? Potentially many normal monster souls. Wilbur has a monster soul, though I think it could do that thing Undyne does where he’s so determined that he clings to life despite it melting him. The Blade would be…a monster?? Human??? soul that absorbed a boss monster, with INSANE LOVE for the voices. Philza is a boss monster, hence the immortality. 

Tubbo is integrity. I debated Justice, because they certainly try, but Tubbo isn’t particularly successful. They value their integrity very very highly. 

Tommy is perseverance because his power is kinda surviving no matter what. And he does try to continue to be happy and outgoing despite everything. 

Philza is patience. It’s what nearly gets him killed in the amnestics arc. He’s used to having all the time in the world and is willing to play the long game. 

The Blade is kindness. Cause genuinely he really is just very nice even though his morals are a lil funky. 

Wilbur is determination. It’s tamed the void through willpower and cleverness alone, and is dedicated to practicality and doing whatever it takes to survive. 

3.Sans is a shoe in for The Blade. Lazy laidback jokers? Check. Hellish in a fight? Check. Does more damage if the person their fighting has attacked? Check. One eye? At one point. And The Blood God can be the mad dummy. (Which has my favorite boss theme btw)

Papyrus and Tommy have a lot together with being self aggrandizing and forgiving people that maybe they shouldn’t. Alternatively MK for that enthusiastic kid energy, hands? No thanks, and that initial hero worship of Undyne/The Blade.

Toriel and Philza have that chronic parent energy, particularly with the food as love language part. Plus the fire aspect! Not sure if Phil would go for the helicopter over controlling parent thing after so many children deaths, but the experience of watching so many of your kids die is shared. 

Wilbur is Burgerpants because. Okay I just think they have that same vibes. And it’s funny.or Mettaton bc legs for days and silly challenges. 

I genuinely can’t think of an analogue for Tubbo! If you have a solution go for it. 

[haveyouseenthisskeleton]

Hello The Queen of Crows and Raccoons and I would like Undertale, Underfell, Underswap, HorrorTale, and any others you can think of with a S/O who have befriended all the Crows and Raccoons in like the neighborhood. Maybe their on the surface but that’s up to you. Thank you and have a good day/night!

Undertale Sans - He doesn't mind. He's actually not helping at all by feeding the crows and raccoons because he thinks they're cute. As long as his S/O is happy with this, he's happy. Plus it's pissing off Papyrus everytime he visits and that's priceless.

Undertale Papyrus - He's losing his mind. Those wild animals are unsanitary, for the love of Asgore and his freackin mind, stop touching them! He will drag you to the bathroom every time you're coming back home to wash your hands. He doesn't want any of the animals in his house, but, well, he's not here all day long so he'll never know.

Underswap Sans - Oh cool! He can do that too! Somehow, all the raccoons love him and join him at night for no reason, now you two can do that together as a fun activity. You have raccoon reunions in the kitchen and you gave all raccoon and crow a codename in your new delirious plan to take control of the world. Your Karen neighbour calls the cops on you as you both start to laugh like maniacs.

Underswap Papyrus - He thought he would be done once his brother got his independance but here you are, in the middle of the night, comploting with raccoons. Is this a secret cult or something? Are you passing too much time with his brother? Why no one around him is having normal hobbies? He's having a mental breakdown.

Underfell Sans - "listen pal, that's none of my business, you do you and stuff. but if boss catches you with 150 random birds and raccoons home, ya're fucked and i ain't saving yar ass." Boss comes home right at this moment, making him your partner in crime as he's standing near you. Red sighs. Not only Boss will fuck you up, but he will sure do to after this.

Underfell Papyrus - He's screeching hysterically, doing wild arms movement to make all the wild animals flee in fear. The animals are watching him in consternation, wondering what the hell he's doing, then you, looking for an explanation. You shrug and they take that for you authorizing them to attack the big moving weird thing, all at one. Edge runs out of the house, screaming as he's running for his life chased by your true people.

Horrortale Sans and Papyrus - Oak for sure will tell nothing as he's exactly like you and brings all kind of wild animals home. You were cuddling against a bear, circled by crows and raccoons where Willow came home. He looks at you two, in disbelief, then let go a "I WON'T EVEN ASK WHY. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. MAKE THEM LEAVE BEFORE DINNER." You both nod and he goes on with his day, not questionning it.

Swapfell Sans - In the morning, you wake up abruptly as Nox throws a tone of salt in your face. You scream, asking what is his problem. He screams back that he saw you doing satanic rituals with your hellbound pets and that's you're for sure not summoning any frickin demon in his house under his watch. He's going to purify you, stop moving and arguing!

Swapfell Papyrus - His room is already trash so a bunch of crows and raccoons in are no problem. He really doesn't mind and he's even digging in trash with the raccons sometimes cause it looks like fun. Nox is actively trying to kick both of you out of the house.

Fellswap Gold Sans - He hates animals. Any kind of animals. They're dirty, they're stinky, and right now they are everywhere in his house and he's rolling on the ground, throwing a temper tantrum like a 5 years old child. You're concerned, as he's screaming to take them away or he's going to scream. You're not obeying. He high-pitch screams so loud all the animals flee in fear, including you and Coffee, who was just chilling in the couch.

Fellswap Gold Papyrus - Wine said no animals home so you had to find a trick. Coffee tries to keep his face normal, but he's very uncomfortable, having 20 raccoons in his ribcage, fighting to get out. Wine is looking at him from his desk, frowning, wondering why he's going from outside to your room for the sixth time looking more and more weird. Coffee quickly runs in your room and lets go his raccoons, adding them to the 80 ones already in there with you. You tell him there's still some outside. He nods and goes back to fill his ribcage.

[floweyheadcanons]

Some more headcannons and questions coming up! Clover can't dance for the life of them, so Flowey helped them by moving their feet to the right bars on El Baildor's fight. Clover felt indebted to him for doing that, but Flowey just told them it was painful to watch them fail over and over and over again. Flash forward to the Omega Flowey fight, Clover is the last to rebel because they still feel indebted to him. They don't want to leave their best friend alone. They realize that what Flowey is doing isn't justified, but a small part of Flowey, that Clover can feel, is feeling like this is justified, for Chara, for Clover...When Frisk wins, Flowey sees a figure behind Frisk, holding out a hand. He sees Clover with a genuine smile, wanting him to join them with doing justice. But Clover isn't there. Flowey understands and tries to tell Frisk and, by extention, Ghost/Hallucination Clover, that he can't. He doesn't understand why they show care to him after all that. He doesn't understand... Flowey has talked to Papyrus about Clover. He likes to see his reactions to their adventures and everything. Seeing someone adore this child while never knowing them makes him seen like the care he had for them wasn't him being weak, but Clover having that ability on monsters. Flowey like card games. He also likes chess, but card games are his favorite. He's good at them, that's way.

Now here is some for the Gusty Gaggle and Feisty Five, well, one of the Feisty Five at least. So the Gusty Gaggle are all actors in the Ghosty South. I mean, like everyone is am actor there. Flowey plays the role of the murderous Flower monster that is part of a gang, and is the brains, with a human and another monster. Clover plays the leader, and human. Kanako plays the happy monster with a bit of scare to her. They basically play themselves, in the Gusty Gaggle. They are actors but not. Also, Mooch and Flowey are friends. Theif and murderous flower bring friends just makes me happy. Mooch is also Flowey's favorite Festiy 4 member.

Now some questions! Who does Flowey hate more, Ceroba or Alphys, and why? Has Flowey ever became friends with Sans in past resets? Does Flowey feel a sense of belonging with the amagates? Has Dalv ever realized he didn't draw the draws Flowey drew? What's his relationship with Decibat and El Bailador? Who is Flowey's favorite Festiy Four person? Out of Starlo, Axis, Martlet, and Chujin, who does Flowey like and hate the most? What kind of games does Flowey like and dislike? Did Flowey ever watch Chujin, and, by extent, The Wild East and Kestukane's before Clover fell? If so, did he judge Chujin for being an idiot? Why does he feel the need to keep his throwing skills up? And, where would Flowey stay most of the time on the surface? Frisk's town or The Ghosty South?

(AAAA- I LOVE HIM!!! HIM AND ENDOGENY IS SO CUTE!!!! I LOVE HIM SO MUCH!!! Also, him to Kanako being like, "Hey! Welcome to the children revived club! Don't tell your mother we are here okay? I hate her!" is so funny to me. HE'S SUCH A LITTLE GUY!!!)

those ideas up there are PEAK?! try not to cook challenge (impossible)

i honestly think the idea of the gusty gaggle both acting and not acting at the same time is really cool, it's more like they overblow their personalities, i really like that.

this is the funny headcanon blog so it's time for the questions now!!

1 .Who does Flowey hate more, Ceroba or Alphys, and why?

Flowey hates Ceroba more because at least Alphys changed. And even before that she pretty clearly was tortured by what she'd done, while I don't think it'd be as obvious to Flowey that Ceroba was suffering too. Does not help that Ceroba has also tried to kill Clover.

2. Has Flowey ever became friends with Sans in past resets?

I'm awfully fond of the idea that at one point or another Sans had some sort of big brother-ish relationship with Flowey because he just has that effect on people™ and would rather not fight this nerd, so yeah! I'd actually be surprised if at no point were they on good terms.

3. Does Flowey feel a sense of belonging with the amagates?

Yeah, it makes him feel better to know he's not the only little freak out there... Not the only experiment gone horribly wrong.

4. Has Dalv ever realized he didn't draw the drawings Flowey drew?

He's probably realized a few weren't his because they were a little too bad. Don't blame Flowey ok?? He hasn't had proper hands for a comical amount of time. I think in secret he'd redraw those because they're usually fire ideas, just bad illustration-wise.

5. What's his relationship with Decibat and El Bailador?

Flowey is a little hater, so I think he'd be a big El Bailador anti... Probably follows the guy around with a comical amount of signs that say things like "CANCEL THIS DANCE MANIAC!!!" "THIS BUFFOON MUST BE STOPPED!!!" that all point in his direction but when Baily turns around to look at them they're gone. Decibat, on the other hand gets a pass. I think Flowey would like sleep in Deci's cave because it's nice and quiet... Probably sneaks in Echo Flowers sometimes because he thinks it's funny™.

6. Who is Flowey's favorite Feisty Four member?

I'm indecisive on this one, but it'd probably be Mooch because he can't help but respect a devious little thief. I think in a couple saves he'd probably help her with her little heists!

7. Out of Starlo, Axis, Martlet, and Chujin, who does Flowey like and hate the most?

Chujin: Mostly considers the man a joke, wouldn't say he hates Chujin.

Axis: Bro is on thin ice. Flowey is always very close to destroying that bucket of bolts and considers him very irritating to be around and a needless nuisance.

Starlo: Finds the guy somewhat annoying, but also interesting. Mostly upset with him for attacking Clover and for being so easily excited into doing stupid things. Would probably like him more if he wasn't an idiot.

Martlet: Wants to pluck every feather off her one by one, and hear her scream. Why does she keep INTERVENING??? She's part of that stupid guard, she wants Clover dead, she doesn't get to decide they're important to her. Her existence fills him with rage.

Of them all, I think he hates Martlet the most for trying to steal Clover away, and likes Starlo the most because he IS just a little goober.

8. What kind of games does Flowey like and dislike?

I think he'd like things like puzzle games (they make him feel big brained), RPGs, and first person shooters and shoot em up games (especially if they're combined. he likes feeling tough.)

9. Did Flowey ever watch Chujin, and, by extent, The Wild East and Kestukane's before Clover fell? If so, did he judge Chujin for being an idiot?

He probably judged Chujin very heavily for being an idiot. I think for the most part he probably watched Chujin the most out of the other Ketsukanes (with Ceroba probably being the one he watched the least) because he finds his stupidity very entertaining.

9. Why does he feel the need to keep his throwing skills up?

It's a worry of his because what if he needs to throw something far for one reason or another but he can't? And what if that thing is something so important that it CAN'T just be forgotten about??

10. Where would Flowey stay most of the time on the surface? Frisk's town or The Ghosty South?

He'd probably visit Frisk's town every now and again but I think he'd prefer The Ghosty South as he'd probably feel more at home and able to be his truest self there. Frisk's town is probably just boring to him as well.

[peqchys]

axe/horror infodump because iiiii. am autistic

actual infodump under cut lol

i personally see horrortale axe and bad sanses axe as somewhat different characters. lemme explain.

they are still very much the same person with the same trauma and similar personalities. however. i see them as being two seperate horrortale timelines. one where axe is unaware of the multiverse and is just. himself. in horrortale. the other is a timeline where nightmare finds him and he joins the bad sanses, while still often visiting his brother and sometimes bringing people food.

so liek actual horrortale axe is very much a dick and actively in psychosis [as stated in the comic itself] because of so many years of hunger and stress and trauma i mean dude the queen who was a friend in the past LITERALLY ATTEMPTED TO MURDER HIM WHILE HE WAS ALREADY SEVERELY MENTALLY STRUGGLING so yeah of course he’s fucked up

i think bad sanses axe is not nearly as friendly/cheerful as classic, but is still a lot more calm than horrortale axe. he’s got friends and food and gets to visit his brother and is not in total psychosis anymore [which i know FROM EXPERIENCE that being out of active psychosis can change EVERYTHING] so he’s caring and kind but just very quiet and doesn’t really joke around in the same way that classic does. still a lot more healthy, albeit very traumatized.

at the end of the day even horrortale axe is a sweetheart deep down, it’s just covered up by the insane amount of stress and pain and trauma he’s under. i mean he literally left notes for papyrus saying to “bash his head in” if he ever tried to eat a human. he’s  still sans.

but bad sanses axe is more OPENLY good and kind for. obvious reasons

[popatochisssp]

So um I saw the ask about the adopted sibling, so I wanted to ask for the new boys plus love your headcanons

This one, right?

Phew it's been awhile, here goes...

Ash (Undergloom Sans): He’s the absolute best to chill with, whenever you need a calm moment with no expectations on you. He loves talking music with you too, and always keeps his non-existent ears open for stuff he thinks he you might like so he can share it with you later. Be prepared for him to try to convert you to the physical media lifestyle if you’re not already into it, CDs and records and cassettes are the way to go, kiddo!

Yrus (Undergloom Papyrus): You know the joke about grandmas who hear you haven’t eaten and drop everything to rush over and feed you? Well, it’s not really a joke, it’s him, he’ll do it. Not having a home-cooked meal is not an option if he has anything to say about it. Any mention of being hungry or not knowing what you’re going to do for dinner is basically a guarantee that he’s going to be coming by to check on you—either with leftovers in tow, or plans to push past you into your kitchen and get to work.

Brick (Horrorfell Sans): Do you get cold easily? Do you like knitwear? Are you in need of any sweaters or scarves or hats or gloves? Your answer is irrelevant, you’re going to get them, in spades. You also get to share basically anything he’s eating at any time, if you happen to be around, you will get offered a bite or a piece or a sip, whether you ask or not. The sooner you accept your fate, the better.

King (Horrorfell Papyrus): Problems disappear for you. You might not put it together that it’s his doing because he doesn’t go out of his way to draw attention to it, but once you’re in his life, your life starts to feel a bit more charmed. Your stuff hardly ever breaks, you always have what you need when you need it, people are nice to you—and if they’re not, they don’t seem to stay in your orbit long enough for it to matter. He’s a facilitator, and what he wants to facilitate for you is an easy, uncomplicated life. (Just don’t call him on it unless you want to be the annoying little sibling. He is not nice! How dare you imply otherwise... Brat.)

Merc (Horrorswap Sans): He’s a great sounding board for when you don’t know what to do. He doesn’t give advice, per se, but he’s a calm and patient listener, and he has a real knack for guiding you to realize what you want or need. He’s also an open invitation to absolutely anything he’s doing, whether that’s baking or yoga or watching a show. You’re always welcome to join if you want something to do!

Ell (Horrorswap Papyrus): He’s your tech-bro, the guy you bring your stuff to before having to call a professional. He’ll give you a bit of shit for 'breaking' it, what’d you do, what kind of weird sites were you on, huh? But in spite of his grumping, he always does his best to fix your problem and set you up for success later. Just show a little gratitude, pay him in chocolate, or coffee, or watching that horror movie with him that no one else wants to, yeah?

Pitch (Horrrorswapfell Sans): He’s the one you want if you’re looking for a fun time. All that stuff you need to get permission for or no one ever let you do because you’re too young or inexperienced? He’s the one to make it happen—you’ve gotta get the experience somehow, don’t you? He can get you into parties, movies, whatever you want to do, really. He’s definitely gonna be the one to take you for your first tattoo, first piercing, first drink (provided you want any of those, of course)… You only live once and there’s no better time to start than when you’re young and the world is your oyster!

Nemo (Horrorswapfell Papyrus): What’s his is yours. If there’s something he has that you like or want for yourself, go ahead, take it , he doesn’t need it—or if he does, he can get a new one. Clothes, trinkets, food, essentials, if he has it you can help yourself to it, no questions asked. The only thing he cares about is that you're happy and taken care of.

Sunny (Gastertale Sans): Do you need a ride? Will you need a ride? When will you need a ride? He’s there whenever, any time night or day if you gotta get somewhere and don’t want to (or can’t) drive. But hey, if you want to learn how to drive, he’d love to teach you! He’s chill and easygoing so he’s probably the least likely to stress you out while you’re learning…and if you do manage to ding his bumper or scrape the curb a little, hey, it happens, that’s why you’re practicing, y’know?

Aster (Gastertale Papyrus): Documentarian of all your special moments, taking pictures of, for, and with you, recording videos, saving any and all physical scraps of paper with your name or accomplishments listed on them that he can get his hands on. He’s proud of you and all the things you do, of course there ought to be a record of it all—for posterity! …And for him. …And for you, in case you ever forget any of the cool things you’ve done!

Spectr (Transcendtale Sans): He’s just kind of always around. Usually as a hooded figure lurking in the distance, but occasionally falling into step with you when you’re walking somewhere alone, or sliding into the seat beside you on public transit. He’s not always much for conversation but he likes being around if you need him, or at least keeping you from being all the way alone.

PapAIrus (Transcendtale Papyrus): A near-constant source of messages and appearances throughout your day. He’s always happy to entertain you if you want someone to talk to, but especially if you happen to be bored (the horror!). He’s got a knack for knowing when you need a diversion or an amusement and he’s sure to pop up on one screen or another to give it to you when you need him the most.

Xanth (Ascendswap Sans): He loves to shower you in presents pretty much whenever he sees you. Never anything expensive or even necessary, mostly just bizarre little tchotchkes—bracelets, pendants, bobbles and baubles—seemingly random items that ‘had your vibe’ or felt like they’d be ‘on your wavelength.’ Annoyingly enough, he’s never wrong, no matter how weird the gift, it’s always right up your alley and he loves bringing a smile to your face with his random finds.

Piper (Ascendswap Papyrus): If you didn’t want to have your own personal stylist…well sorry, maybe you shouldn’t have gotten adopted by proxy by somebody who wants you to look and feel your best, I guess? He likes to take you shopping for things and offer his advice and opinions, and if you’ll let him, maybe steer you towards a few things here and there that you wouldn’t have thought to try. Don’t worry about the cost of anything, if there’s a deal to be had, he’ll get it one way or another…

Carmine (Underfell Fruition Sans): The best wingman ever, he’s always down to be there for you when you need a little confidence boost, too shy or nervous to do something all by yourself. If you need a hype up before asking someone out, somebody to go to XYZ with so you’re not the odd one out, even just somebody to go see a movie with, the answer’s always the same—sounds great, what time? He’ll never let you down and never leave you hanging.

Tank (Underfell Fruition Papyrus): He's like having a bodyguard whenever you need one. And really, who wouldn’t want to have a big tough guy willing to follow them around and do whatever they want him to do? He’s great at that, being a strong silent presence for you whether you need a little intimidation or just someone to get something off a high shelf for you—y’know, typical scary tall guy stuff. But if you’re looking for some quiet quality time, he’s good for that too, happy to parallel play anytime!

Vi (Swapfell Fruition Sans): He’s good at keeping you on track and making sure all your important documents are in order. He knows your schedule almost down to the minute and tends to text you about anything that might interrupt your routine before it becomes a problem, and you don’t even have to ask him to take a look at your financials or help you with taxes—he’s already combed through the figures and pounced on every little discrepancy and rounding error he could find. You’re welcome, by the way.

Hunter (Swapfell Fruition Papyrus): You don’t get out enough. You’re coming out with him. Yes, outside. No, you don’t have a choice, he’ll drag you if you don’t go willingly, being inside 24/7 is terrible for you he would know. Don’t worry, it won’t be so bad, he can probably find you something cool to see, some animal tracks or a neat plant, maybe a stream. He’ll make sure you get back home in one piece and everything too, alive even, maybe. He just wants to share a little time and fresh air with you, and being cooped up indoors all the time is no fun, even if you’re used to it.

Kohl (Descendtale Sans): He…hassles you. He sneaks up on you when your guard is down, shows up in unexpected places to spook you, makes jokes at your expense… It’s nothing worse than teasing, really, and compared to how he is with most everyone else, his pestering tends to read as playful more than anything else. Still, if you’re looking for a sweet, helpful big brother…look elsewhere. He’s the bastard big brother that you’ve begrudgingly grown fond of, and you’re the irritating little sib that he’s forced to admit is growing on him, a little…much like a fungus might.

Bram (Descendtale Papyrus): He calls at least once a day if he doesn’t see you, and sometimes even then. He’s always trying to check in on you to see if you need anything, make sure you’re doing alright, and oh, of course if you’d like to do anything today, or maybe later in the week? It may be a little a lot overeager of him, but he cares about you and doesn’t ever want to lose touch! So please text him back so he knows you got home safe, he’ll worry if you’re radio silent too long!

[random-autie-fangirl]

🎭 Lying headcanon for Asriel/Flowey

(Headcanons still from the same ask game that you can totally ask me questions from if you so desire)

What Asriel does post-pacifist is he downplays how much he cares.

How much he cares for Chara (though he certainly wasn't lying at first when he said he didn't forgive Chara, this is later when they start being nicer to him again. It was Chara who started this animosity by the way, but it's like ... "Oh, you don't forgive me for killing everyone, you hate me, huh? You never wanna see me again? Well, okay, then, I don't forgive you either, I don't wanna see your stupid face ever again, Fuck off!" And then he proceeds to see Chara over and again for the next few years until the animosity fades on both sides, because Frisk and Chara share the same body and it turns out he likes Frisk more than he hates Chara. See this is why I prefer the buttercup plan being a betrayal of a previously good relationship because being sort of forced to interact with a best friend you had a massive mutual falling out with is somewhat funny, but being sort of forced to interact with your relentless bully of three years is just fucking awful)

for MK (MK is impossible for anyone to dislike, trust me, Asriel tried at first to dislike them, mainly being jealous of their friendship with Frisk, but MK was kind, endearing and positive enough that he feels really bad about it (and MK’s reaction to bullying just isn't funny, they just brush him off and y'know...it later becomes very obvious that Frisk is definitely not leaving him behind),

for Toriel(he still really likes his mom, I am pretty sure he greatly prefers her to Asgore, and that's who he lives with, even if it might be a bit awkward living with her alone first it feels somewhat nice, doesn't it, to return home? And in the underground, he was hanging out in the ruins when Frisk came...with Toriel, though that might be just because he was looking for souls, and plus...the skeleton fam are always next door, if he wants to spend time with Frisk or Papyrus),

for Frisk (Caring and bright, like MK, but certainly not a goody two shoes by any means. Down for chaos and trouble, you mess with Frisk and they mess back, and that's just what Az likes about them. They forgave him when he didn't forgive himself, saved him when he still believes he doesn't deserve to be. (Though Frisk uses it constantly to win arguments and the like... Or Frisk is always allowed to pick the first movie on movie night because "no murder" privileges, Frisk gets the last cookie because "no murder" privileges, Frisk gets to ride shotgun because "no murder" privileges, and if there's a limited supply of something, Frisk gets the first pick, once again cos' no murder privileges.)

Who... understands about the presence of Chara and about the resets. And well...I often think about Chara and their "best friends", that one person they see as an equal above all else. But, well, Asriel has his own issues and he has his own best friends to feel weirdly intense about. In the underground, he idolizes Chara as that person...the exception to all the noise, the one person he feels that he can still care about, a potential partner in crime. And I think post pacifist, he kinda latches onto Frisk in the same way, at least to start with. In this case, it's paired with a crush but it doesn't have to be, for example with Chara, it evidently wasn't.),

and finally for Papyrus(still his idol, in the fifth anniversary thing, one of the people we know for sure that Asriel interacts with apart from Frisk is Papyrus, much like MK, I think Paps can be so kind that it starts to make him feel bashful and be significantly less likely to be cruel or act up, unlike Frisk and Chara who bring out the fire in him, either playfully (Frisk) or genuinely angrily (Chara). Also since Frisk lives with Paps, he'll come over just as often to see the skeledad as to see the skelekid, lucky of him to have both favourite people live right next door and in the same house. Why doesn't Az live with them then.... Because I like Friskriel. Also because living with Frisk would mean living with Chara, and neither Asriel or Chara want that (you can also see why he would be less than thrilled to see Sans every day of course).

He'll give gifts anonymously, hide his face away so Frisk doesn't see him blush at them, downplay or backtrack on compliments (or just mumble them), make excuses for caring actions, can be very clingy but never in public(and if you ever see him on Frisk's shoulders, it's just because it's easier than the pot, not cause he wants to be near Frisk or anything, or sometimes it's "Frisk paid me" liar). He's not a little weenie who "cares" about people, it's just because.... uh...

You know, general tsundere stuff.

And (apart from the blushing thing) this isn't just specific to his crush on Frisk but to every relationship he has. He has a reputation to maintain, he doesn't want to be teased, he always wanted to be "strong", to be seen as a "big kid" and that still goes now even if he's done trying to impress Chara or act cool for their sake. (Now, honestly, I think he might be trying to impress Frisk and MK, even though Frisk doesn't care and actually likes the fact that he's kind of a dork and MK is... actually pretty easily impressed, in fact, and is probably more annoyed when Asriel is mean, partially in an attempt to be "cool" and "tough" and "uncaring".)

[patchwork-crow-writes]

On the topic of 'other secret bosses', have I told you my Rouxls Kaard theory yet? Specifically that I think halfway through the game, he's going to disappear and become a Secret Boss.

My reasons for thinking this firstly, because like the Joker Card, his real-world form is another item that always gets discarded: the Rules Card. His similarity to Gaster and Papyrus also help(since they're also both very affiliated with the idea of being 'Forgettable', and I suspect one of them may be the 'Strange Someone'. (Maybe both? I will NEVER give up on the Gaster is Papyrus theory.)) Anyways, those things, but there's also how Rouxls' theme has spoken words in it, and Jevil and Spamton have spoken words in their fights (Jevil's 'I can do anything', the lyrics to Big Shot), and there's ALSO something very important--

Rouxls is very important and no one really likes him. He's always running around, trying to find a boss to suck up to, but the Fun Gang treats him as 'eurgh, that guy again,' and neither King nor Queen really LIKES him. Much like Jevil, only one person(Lancer) really seems to appreciate him, but much like Spamton, he's not very good at all at what he does.

So I think that, in some future Dark World, Rouxls will meet someone he's not supposed to. And he's eagerly offer to be their lackey. And that will cause him to disappear. Stopping him from disappearing is out of your control. But what IS in your control is if you just give him up for lost, or go looking for him, even knowing that you can't ever undo the damage done by his having gone missing, even if he's radically changed by what happened, even if you don't think you'll be able to really bring him back...

Maybe Noelle felt similarly after losing Dess. No one seems to talk about them anymore. Life continues on perfectly fine without them. Even those who knew them and miss them still have a life to live. Maybe this was always going to happen. But still...

I've heard about the idea of Rouxls being a secret boss at some point, but this is a really cool take on that idea! I really like this for a couple of reasons - the first being that in a way this has already happened in-game! When we first enter the Cyber World, Rouxls slips out of our pocket in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment, and I'm willing to bet most people didn't even notice he was gone from our inventory until the next confrontation with him... myself included.

The other reason I really like this idea is because it would give Rouxls something else in common with other secret bosses - which is that we as players would have to really go out of our way to discover and fight him, and it's entirely likely that our efforts in that regard could cause many more problems than it might solve - see Kris's mental state after the whole Spamton ordeal. It's kind of like an extension of the philosophy behind the Sans fight in Undertale - we do it because of our morbid curiosity, because we want to see what happens, and because we can, we "have to"... no matter the cost in-game.

Quite aside from that, Rouxls fascinates me because it's entirely possible that his abilities could be literally game-breaking... if he only knew how to use them properly. As the Rules Card, he literally defines the terms of a game of cards - imagine what he could be capable of if he suddenly decided "you can't hurt me anymore" or "I win if I so much as graze you". I think that potential power may be largely curtailed by his need to be subordinate to a "higher power", because you cannot play a rules card in the same way you can play a face card... so maybe becoming subordinate to "something he wasn't supposed to meet" will allow him to use that power to its fullest extent.

To further hammer this point home, look at his appearances between Chapters 1 and 2. Under King, who is a incredibly myopic and cruel ruler whose subordinates either hate him or are completely indifferent to him... Rouxls' puzzles are equally rubbish. Then in Chapter 2, Queen does a slightly better job of "ruling" her domain, and actually commands loyalty from the Swatchlings, and suddenly Rouxls is able to construct a pretty elaborate house-capturing game in his fight. So there's a correlation between how powerful and competent a ruler is, and Rouxls' ability to craft puzzles and games.

So imagine what he might be capable of if he ever came into the employ of somebody with very intimate knowledge of Deltarune's game mechanics... somebody like that person who drove both Jevil and Spamton to insanity. And your theory here would be the perfect way that could happen. And then it's up to us whether we care enough - or are morbidly curious enough - to actually find him once he disappears. And what exactly such a search would entail, for Kris and the other main characters of Deltarune, the game's themes and motifs, and the nature of the nested worlds (e.g. Real(Light(Dark(Something else?))))

Thanks so much for sharing this with me! Rest assured it'll eat away at my grey matter for some time to come, which trust me, is the highest compliment I can give something here :D

[autisticsupervillain]

It's Fictional Throwdown Friday!

This Week's Fighters...

Sans the Skeleton vs Alastor the Radio Demon!

Conditions:

No Restrictions.

Scenario:

Flowey during one of his runs decides to summon Alastor out of hell for his help in obtaining the Six Human Souls and defeating Asgore. Alastor takes the deal and, being who he is, decides to take the bloodiest route possible to his goal. Sans stands in his way in the midst of his slaughter of Snowdin.

Analysis: Sans

The man. The myth. The legend. It's the King of Tumblr Sexymen himself: Sans.

For everyone who's been living under a rock since 2015, let me give you a quick rundown. Sans is a Skeleton Monster who lives underground in the town of Snowdin. He works as a Sentry with his brother Papyrus on the look out for humans, though Sans puts considerably less effort into it than his younger brother. He appears to be nothing more than a lazy bag of bones who simply can't be bothered to try to capture Frisk.

In truth though, he's much more than meets the eye. Sans had some kind of relationship with the Underground's previous royal scientist Dr. Gaster and is strongly implied to be an accomplished scientist himself. He's aware of the effects of DETERMINATION and knows that Frisk can reset time at will. Knowing that all of his decisions can be reset by some alien entity at a moment's notice has turned Sans into an apathetic nihilist who can't bring himself to do the bare minimum of his job anymore.

As such, Sans instead acts as the Judge, watching the human from the shadows and observing their actions. Sans remembers every friend they make and sees every life they take, and he will hold them accountable for each. Though, it's only when the human makes it clear that they're a threat to absolutely everything and everyone, everywhere, that Sans steps into the ring himself.

Sans is the weakest enemy in the game. 1 attack. 1 defense. Maybe even 1 hp. And despite all of that, he's still more than capable of kicking your ass. Firstly, his attacks directly hit both body and soul, to the point of completely destroying the soul in seconds as he ignores your physical durability. Secondly, his attacks come from nearly every direction simultaneously, putting the Player through hell as they have do dodge attacks that spring out of the ground beneath them, alongside lasers that spin all around them from his summonable Gaster Blasters. And third, Sans is remarkably fond of abusing his teleportation. Not to dodge mind you, as he's fast enough to side step everything Frisk throws at him, but to attack. He doesn't need to touch his foe to teleport them around the battlefield, even into his other attacks if need be.

It helps that he is easily the fastest monster in the Underground, capable of dodging attacks from a Sea Tea amplified Frisk even in his sleep, who can dodge lightning.

But the most damning ability in his arsenal is his KR. KARMA is a soul poison that infests the target's soul as soon as they make contact with any of Sans' attacks. The common theory is that it does more damage to the opponent depending on how many people they've killed, as implied by the name and the text when you get hit by it "You can feel your sins crawling down your back".

Sans also has Blue Mode, where he increases gravity on the target's body and soul to pin them down and make them easier to hit. Sans uses these in conjunction his blue attacks, attacks that only do damage if the target is moving when they get hit, do disorient and rapidly obliterate his foe before they can think. Overwhelming assaults are the name of Sans' game and he'll pull any trick he needs to in order to win. Including things that are.... hard to quantify.

See, Sans is somehow capable of attacking you... even when it isn't his turn. He completely ignore the rules of the RPG world he lives in to attack you on the menu screen. Which, as you can imagine, is a hard thing to translate to a non-rpg fight. Do I just assume all encounters monsters follow rpg-rules? There's genuinely an argument that can be made for it, I suppose. One thing I am willing to give him however is his ability to pause the battle by just... not taking his turn. Even when all his other tricks fail, Sans can force a deadlock by just doing nothing until you give up and go away... unless, of course, his opponent is capable of doing the same kind of meta bullshit that he is. When Frisk also breaks the rules by attacking twice in one turn, Sans is caught out by it and dies. Which leads me into Sans biggest weaknesses...

He's still the weakest monster in the game. Monster Kid is stronger than he is. For all his memetic qualities, he's physically the weakest fighter to appear on FTF thus far. Not to mention, his own apathy keeps him from fighting unless he absolutely has to and his laziness completely tanks his stamina.

Even with those factors though, Sans has earned his memetic reputation as a ballbustingly hard boss. When you hear those first few notes, you know you're fucked.

Analysis: Alastor

Hell. The final punishment. The ultimate torture. A landscape of fire and brimstone where all your greatest fears and pains torment you for all eternity. A never-ending gang war where any day could be your last and the only way to truly survive is either carve out your own territory or to sell out your servitude to one of the nefarious Overlords waging to control Hell's Pride Ring.

As such, it might suprise you that some never wanna leave. Why would they when Hell offers you all the slaughter and mayhem you could ever possibly desire? Such is the philosophy of Alastor the Radio Demon.

Alastor was a radio talk show host who moonlighted as a serial killer in life who was sent to Hell after being mistaken for a deer and shot by a hunter while burying a body. When he awoke in Hell, he delighted in the opportunity to openly relish in his sadistic tendencies, quickly rising up to become one of Hell's scariest Overlords. Overlords are sufficiently powerful Sinners who are strong enough to carve out their own territory in the Pride Ring, where all Sinners reside and wage war on each other. Broadcasting the screams of his victims over his radio show before cooking them up and devouring them. Even without the use of holy weapons to destroy their souls and permanently kill them, that fate is enough fo make any Sinner terrified.

Come the modern day and Alastor has grown bored of engaging in his worst desires. There was no variety anymore. No sport. So, for reasons known only to himself, he vanished for seven years, returning only when the Princess of Hell herself announced her latest project: the Happy Hotel.

Alastor would enlist himself to help in her cause. Not out of any guilt or moral code, but to satiate his never ending boredom. Or so he says. Behind that sharp unshakable grin, Alastor's true motivation is a mystery. All we do know is whatever agenda he's pushing... might not even be his own.

Regardless, Alastor is a rather private person, with a strange, inscrutable moral code. Any who try to follow the strings he's tied to may just find that grin to be the last thing they see.

Alastor is one of Hell's most powerful Overlords, with a plethora of terrifying powers. He's impossible to record on modern cameras, he can summon and manipulate an army of shadows, inlcuding even his own, and can grow into a colossal giant to ripe people apart and devour his victims whole. His tendrils are powerful enough to rip apart Sir Pentious's airship and he can create explosions big enough to nearly dwarf the hotel itself.

Notably, he's far stronger than some of his fellow Overlords. Take the TV Demon Vox for instance, who is powerful enough to destroy volcanos, requiring roughly 182 kilotons of TNT.

Source:

None of this however, competes with Alastor's most terrifying ability. His power over souls. Should someone attempt to make a deal with him, they risk losing their soul to him, giving him completely control over them as his slave. He's conned fellow Overlords into falling for this ruse before, exploiting Husk's love of gambling to swindle him out of his free will. Notably, this makes him uniquely capable of potentially killing a fellow Sinner, as Sinners can keep coming back to life in Hell so long as they have their soul, no matter the damage.

But, despite this cunning mind and terrifying power, Alastor is not invincible. He's overconfident to a foolhardy degree, from deliberately trying to piss off Lucifer himself to battling Adam, the First Man, without even a holy weapon and nearly getting himself killed. It's possible this overconfidence is what led to him selling his own soul to an unknown party, playing the pawn in someone else's game.

Still, don't count Alastor out yet. Now that he's exploited Princess Charlie Morningstar's desperation for a "favor", he fully intends on finding a way out of his chains. Only then, will we see what the Radio Demon hides behind his shark toothed grin.

Stay tuned folks~

Throwdown Breakdown:

There are a lot of complicated variables to this verdict.

Both characters have a misplaced reputation as being unstoppable badasses within the scope of their franchises, but that simply isn't true when one examines the actual facts of their canon. Sans would not stand a ghost of a chance against any of Undertale's strongest characters and Alastor, even back in the pilot, was never even close to the strongest being in Hell. So, let's strip them of their reputations and mischaracerizations to see how these too would actually engage, shall we?

On the stats side, Alastor blatantly one shots. Most people do. It's Sans. That's his whole point. But, just as with the Player, Sans is fast enough to dodge Alastor for a very long time. Alastor is faster that run of the mill Sinners like Angel Dust and average Imps like Blitzo, who are fast enough to dodge bullets and automatic fire. But Frisk can outright dodge lightning, which can move hundreds of times faster. Alastor has an advantage in AOE, with his minions, tentacles, and explosions forcing Sans to rely on his teleportation due to their sheer range, but Sans's sheer reaction speed would allow him to process that fact before Alastor's attacks have a chance to land.

"Oh, but Sans didn't use teleportation to dodge Frisk-" Shut up, hypothetical straw man. Frisk was swinging a knife in a straight line. Teleporting would be a waste of energy in a fight where Sans is already running low on stamina, so he doesn't. He's not gonna stand there and get blown up if he can avoid it.

Personality wise, both of these characters are going to be trading wise cracks and zingers all fight, but I find it more likely for Sans's banter to effect Alastor than vice versa. As shown in his duet with Lucifer, the people who get under Alastor's skin are people who completely undermine his intimidating fascade and who he can't just bully with his power and reputation. Sans dodging all his attacks while making terrible puns with big smug grin will gradually drive him up the wall. He's not likely to explode into a rage, but his frustration at Sans refusing to take him seriously, combined with general overconfidence, will undermine him as the fight continues. Alastor's best bet to get under Sans's metaphorical skin is to really lean into his "I slaughtered your whole town" routine, but even that can be countered by Sans's knowledge of timelines and resets that Alastor would have no knowledge of or power over.

The big thing working is Sans's favor here is how his abilities are perfectly tailored to undermine Alastor's. Sinners can't be killed unless their souls are destroyed... and every attack in Undertale can destroy your soul, bypassing Alastor's durability and immortality completely. In fairness, this is nothing new to Alastor. His fight with Adam shows full well he can play evasive and defensive when he knows someone is fully capable of killing him.

The problem here is threefold. Firstly, he still lost that fight with Adam despite that. And Sans's attacks are much more varied, underhanded, and clever than Adam's relentless onslaught. Secondly, Alastor's mobility is going to be tied down by Blue Mode flinging him around. Thirdly, he doesn't know that Sans can do this, meaning he's at risk of attempting to simply brute force Sans into submission and get killed.

Finally, Sans has better meta-narrative fuckery on his side. Alastor's 4th wall leaning is strictly limited to hijacking other character's musical numbers, leaving him with no answers for when Sans elects to simply not take his turn or attack in the middle of Alastor's. He likely wouldn't even understand what's happening, just that neither of them can move suddenly.

Alastor's best chance, beyond carpet bombing with AOE, is to outlast Sans's low stamina, forcing him to heavily exert himself with an overwhelming onslaught until he wears down. But, in doing so, he forces Sans to play a trump card that Alastor has no answer for. Once the stalemate tactics been pulled, Alastor's only remaining option is to manipulate Sans into a deal....

Here's how I see this fight roughly playing out.

Alastor tends to fall into one of two modes while fighting. Either "obliterate with raw show of force" or "outfox and evade". With no reason to suspect he needs that latter, he defaults to the former. After a trade of barbs and a deer pun that has Alastor roll his eyes dismissively, Sans's eyes widen as a massive green explosion stretches out towards him, forcing him to teleport away in a snap. He responds in turn with a Gaster Blaster onslaught that Alastor barely thinks to dodge, turning into a shadow to slip between the sea of bones. Initially caught out by a foe he underestimated surviving, Alastor immediately swaps to evade mode to dodge Sans's retaliatory onslaught. Tentacles pull him between Gaster Blasters, zipping him around across the sky to try and counter the Blue Mode pulling him in all directions. As a cabnibalistic serial killer from hell, KARMA would absolutely tear through his soul the second he gets hit. If he gets hit.

The fight continues at this pace for awhile. The two sides alternating between putting everything into evading the other's barrage and throwing back a storm for the other to weather in turn. Back and forth it would go, as Sans's puns and ribbing gradually get under Alastor's skin. That damn skeleton is wearing out. He can feel it. All he needs to do is press him a little harder, hit him a little faster. Until...

The fighting stops. Alastor braces for an attack that never comes. Nothing happens. They stand there.

"What just happened?"

"it's not your turn."

"Turn? What?"

"and it's never gonna be."

So.... Alastor makes a deal. Keying into the fact that Sans's smile is hiding some dark secrets just like his own, Alastor offers to share the souls with him. To work together to break the chains holding them down. Sans seems to consider it, nods, and they shake on it.

Alastor hears the whoopie cushion just as a sea of bones rises to entomb him. As his soul shatters into oblivion, three words echo around him.

"geeettttttt dunked on!!!"

This Throwdown's Winner is...

Sans Undertale!

[ratsoh-writes]

Happy Valentine’s Day ratsoh :) I have a request for a Matchup for my babygirl Charlotte!

She’s 23 and currently working at a bank but her dream job is something involved with fashion history. Charlotte is soft spoken and generally prefers to hang back and keep to herself except around people she’s very close with. She lives on a property with a few different houses with her family (immediate and more distant) she’s very patient and detail oriented, and tends to be very understanding and forgiving. On the flip side she can be a bit of a pushover, especially around stronger personalities, and generally won’t stand up for herself until she’s reached her limit.

Aside from fashion history, she’s a big foodie and likes cooking, going out to eat, etc. she’s curious and open about learning and trying new things as long as she gets enough time to herself in between. She’s also good at building and fixing things (assigned furniture assembler), and very good at math- she’s the kind of friend people ask for help when filing their taxes

She’s the oldest of 5 kids and has younger half siblings from 19-7 years old, but the family living together is around 30(?) people. Her family is important to her and while her SO certainly doesn’t need to be around them all the time (and she’s open to moving away from them so long as it isn’t super far away), she’d still want to feel comfortable bringing them around each other and not having to worry about it if she isn’t there to supervise the whole time. Similarly, she’s pretty introverted and while someone who is very outgoing isn’t a deal breaker she wouldn’t do very well with someone who is constantly taking her out of her comfort zone.

She doesn’t have a lot of strong preferences, she has a partial preference for people taller than her (she’s 5’7) but it’s not a very strong one. Her partner also being detail oriented is a pretty big plus bc details are so important to her. I think she’d appreciate confidence, whether is more boldness and bravado or a quiet self assurance, she’d subconsciously drift more towards those kinds of people.

Her general aesthetic leans more towards light colors and flips around between historical, country cute, elegant, and girlish depending on the day. She’s almost always carrying a sewing kit , notebook, and her multitool pocket knife with her, and she’s got shared ownership over a pair of pet doves with her cousin/best friend/ roommate Lenore. The doves are her babies

Anyways , I hope this wasn’t too much or too little. Thanks ratsoh! Your writing always brightens my day <3

Lovely character description! Anyways Charlotte has very specific needs. She needs someone who’s confident but observant enough to realize when they push to hard. And a family lover of course! So after searching for those requirements, I decided to match her with ….. SALT! Lustswap papyrus!

Salt has a type. That is very obvious if you look at all his exes. He’s attracted to this shy softies. He loves bringing them out of their shells. Over time he became quite good at reading people’s body language and expressions to tell their comfort levels. Salt is a great choice as someone who can give Charlotte the confidence to be adventurous while still being restrained enough to feel secure to her.

Salt is 100% extroverted and would do well in a large family setting. Picking him means that there’s no need for Charlotte to move away if she doesn’t want to. He’ll blend in well with the group, and become the annoying uncle with dirty jokes the kids don’t understand lol. Every family needs one of those after all lol

Salt is a professional makeup artist! So while it’s not the same field as clothing design, it’s still very similar. Salt is someone who needs to keep up with trends in order to keep his job relevant. He’s someone that Charlotte can always talk to about her passion, and he’ll be able to keep up just fine

Charlotte should be warned though, salt is a lust monster lol. So she’s gonna have her hands full with him ;). And maybe a few kids down the line. He’s a family guy, and while he can go without, he does hope that his future partner would want one or two someday