#1d hiatus or split?

[confuseddirectionerrants]

Can Liam Please.....

NO Liam can do as he MF wants to!

ok y'all are so fucking insane with this shit its nuts, you want a One Direction reunion, but you don't want them to talk or get along with one another, you don't want Liam to talk about Zayn or Niall, yet you want a 1D reunion! PLEASE get the fuck over yourselves!!! If you think that after this many years that these men haven't sat down and discussed or tried to work out their differences than you must really be fucked in the head.

AND DO NOT SIT THERE AND TELL ME YOU ARE PERFECT EITHER.

You can sit there and spew your hate for Liam all you want to but let me look in your closet and make sure all your skeletons are gone first. Make sure YOU are perfect.

I am so sick of the 1D Split fucking fandom. It is insane to me that it's so split when the fandom loves the same people. The only thing One Direction has ever done to its fans is told them that they were going on an 18-month hiatus, and it ended up being a lot longer. Ever set back and think why that is? Or why they haven't come back yet? Or why they might not WANT to come back yet? Come on people they spent so many years being mentally and physically abused by their management would y'all wanna come back after all that? They might come back when THEY see fit but hating on one or another isn't going to make it happen any faster or at all.

I see hate on Harry, Louis, Zayn and Liam and it blows my mind every day and i don't fucking get it. you all love them as a group but spritely you hate on them. Niall is the only unproblematic one out there. he is easy to be a fan of.

Y'all are absolutely insane.

#LeaveLiamAlone

[mego211]

I needed to go Tumblr. As soon as I heard that Liam Payne had died, I was thrown back into the teenager I was. I remember listening to the first album and watching the video diaries. I remember falling in love with these five idiots and waiting for the next song to get me through the day. I remember scrolling through this site for leaks, for drama and for everything in between. I remember heading to OTR concert and excited to finally see the boys that made life a little less shitty. I remember finding out that Zayn leaving the band and remembering when they released an album without him. Then I remember them going on hiatus and wondering how my life would go on. Then they all slowly released music in their own and realized that life was now split into 5. I remember when my mom won tickets to get to hear Liam’s first solo first, and finally meeting one of my idols face to face. I remember growing up and slowly loosing touch with 1D. Then it’s 10 years later, and I start to relisten to all of the albums. I remember being a teen. That came in ebbs and flows for a while. Then I see that Harry and Liam attend a Niall concert, and I start to listen to my favorite 1D songs. Two days ago, only 2, I was listening to FOUR and loving every second. I randomly start singing Strip that Down in the kitchen and life is a little at peace, at least it transports me back to simpler times. Times when I was worried if one of the boys was seeing someone because they would for sure go out with me. And there was hope in my heart that maybe someday, I would see One Direction reunited with all of them. And then I’m driving home humming to Angel. And then my friend messaged me that Liam is dead. But how? Wasn’t he just at a Niall concert and wasn’t I just thinking about how 1D could reunite some day and that would be the best thing ever! But no, Liam Payne is dead. I never really expected to have a celebrity hit me like this. There were a few that shook me to my core but I think I’m still in denial that Liam is dead. Payno is gone. A part of my teenage youth is gone. A big chunk of my life is gone. A part that I thought I could lock away and never get hurt, is truly gone. Worst part is listening to Spaces and Moments and realizing the true heartbreak of this. Warning: Moments will get you. It will 100% get you. Be prepared to cry and wonder how our Payno was feeling in the final moments. Rest east Liam 💕

[louisisalarrie]

Why do you think some larries like the idea of hl broken up in 2013 or 2016? I joined the fandom in 2017-18 and read back popular bloggers at that moment and everyone was convinced that they have been together, and some even were sure that Harry was very supportive in 2016 and did his best for Louis. Last few years I see more and more bloggers thinking differently. Have you ever changed your mind about hl and break ups?

hellooooo anon! welcome to the show x

a lot of the bigger blogs somewhat gave up hope, and started to fall off tumblr anyway because it wasn’t the platform it once was. The dynamic of this fandom is so different now, and visibly shifted after the band went on hiatus. The closeting got more and more aggressive over time, obviously, and then once the band split it was hard to keep on larrying because we weren’t getting content of them. And that’s the main thing I think has subconsciously or consciously swayed folks from believing they’re still together. It was mainly the hiatus.

Now, the hiatus was important in terms of contracts and stunts and we had so much hope that because they were no longer “one direction”, we’d see a large shift in stunts and the boys hanging out together, and perhaps a bit of optimism for a CO. we tried to make the best out of a very sad situation lol, but it made sense. They could be more free since they were both solo and with different teams.

However, we just didnt get what we hoped for. We didn’t see them reconnecting and we didn’t get to see them both being in the same place staring at each other with the same love in their eyes that they had in 2011, because they weren’t required to be. No band, meant no obligations together. So without the constant proof and subtle looks and brushes of their arms and giddiness, it was hard to keep up supporting them. It felt somewhat pointless because we didn’t see an end to it. It was just hoping they were seen together or we’d get SOMETHING, and we got and are still getting little tidbits, but it’s not the same amount of proof as before so people kind of fell off the wagon.

To be honest, I took a step back after 2017 because Tumblr wasn’t pumping as much as it used to, and my life got in the way. Unless something major happened, I was pretty MIA, unfortunately. But I’ve been back fully for a couple years now, which I’m happy about. But it’s easy to shift ideas when you aren’t getting photo and video evidence of them being loved up, ya know? The stunts didn’t stop after 1d. BBG didn’t end. We all bet so much on at least a couple of stunts dropping when they went on hiatus but it just didn’t happen. We were, and still are, caught in this closeting game of PR moves and bullshit tweets and gift baskets for a kid that isn’t Louis’. ANYWAY

Those are the reasons behind a lot of doubt that larry are still together. So, what do I think?

Well, I think that theorising about their breakups is just entirely unproductive for the cause that we’re fighting for. It feels almost… fanfic-esque, and like, I still see people calling themselves casual larries and believe they were together at one point and that’s why they still fight for their freedom, because of what they went through as kids and even their closeting now, but I just… don’t think it should be a theory that people try and convince others of. That’s not what larries are about. If you think they’ve broken up, cool, don’t come on here and try to prove to everyone why, because that’s just… silly. It’s almost an anti move, which a lot of old larries have shifted to, mind you, because of these theories of break ups and very little proof with a whole lot of reaching (sometimes) on our end at the moment.

It’s an argument a lot of people use, like theorising that they’re in an ethical non monogamous relationship, or aren’t together anymore but fuck casually, or genuinely hate each other, or they aren’t together anymore and they’re dating other people (some examples being stunts, some being completely wild theories), and yeah, it comes down to song lyrics and lack of proof otherwise that they’re still together.

A lot of L and H’s songs do have connotations of breakups, or getting back together, or being separated etc., and I see a lot of Larries say “oh well they must have broken up at some point like any relationship, they’re not perfect, but they’re together now” etc., which is great, fine, and normal because being with someone for like 13 years in those jobs is hard work. But I truly think it’s unproductive to theorise on shit like that, as Larries. It gives antis ammo, and I think it comes out of boredom. Because let’s be honest, us and many solos (except the niall solos rn they living it UP), aren’t getting a whole lot right now, larry or otherwise. Harry’s basically MIA, we saw louis and Harry both at the euros in the same photo, louis is doing a few more festivals before a break (god that’s gonna hurt), and so… idk. We’re all itching for something. We used to get new content every day back in the day, but we just aren’t getting it. Which is fine, I don’t expect that these days, but damn, throw us a bone lol.

Some folks like to believe that larry themselves are choosing to keep their relationship private for now, because they want to. That’s fine. Others believe they are still being heavily closeted. That’s fine. What we’re fighting for is the love between two dudes, regardless of whether they have broken up somewhere in between, because we want justice for them and a change in the industry.

Anyway, my belief is that they’re together now, and that’s all that matters. We could go into deep theories and shit about body language changes and attitudes and fighting in 2015/2016 or whatever, but I just don’t think it’s productive, or that simple.

Listen, if I was in that situation, like… it’d be fucking hard to give up after how hard you fought for this person, that love just doesn’t go away. Being that age as well, it’s deep in your soul when you feel it. So I really do think that it isn’t as simple as that. I think it probably got messy at times, frustrating sure, but I’m not going to theorise on that.

And that’s not me being ignorant about relationships and how they can fluctuate and fights happen and breaks happen and I’m sure those two went through hell, but I just don’t see them giving up on each other that easily.

Anyway, hope this gives you a little insight into my brain and what I think about this. You can check out skepticalarrie’s ‘they never broke up’ tag if you like, and I’ll have this in my pinned post for reference to what I think about breakup rumours etc as #still together still going strong.

Let me know if any other q’s or if this ramble needs some clarifying hehe. Thank you! <3

[cantquitu]

"Such as Liam talking about his struggles with alcohol, Louis talking about how he found it difficult to come to terms with his role in the band, Harry talking about his anxiety around the risk of him messing things up or doing the wrong thing, and everyone knowing so much about him."

What's your take on Louis also saying that he was blindsided by the band ending? I have to admit that when I became a Harry fan and learned about 1D, I immediately thought the hiatus line was for the fans, and that they'd split, but wanted to allow space for a possible reunion rather than toxic gossip.

But even if they were honestly just going on a break, that's a lot of discussion for 4 or 5 people to have, in their various combinations. Louis seemed to be across the management side of things at the time, as well. Didn't they close the 1D-related companies down within the year? There would have been meetings about that, as they were all directors. Do you think he was having a hard time accepting what Harry and maybe others were saying? Or do you think he's a bit disingenuous about it all?

I absolutely think the hiatus line was for the fans. 100%. I have no doubt that they all discussed and agreed with their management and label what their strategy and script would be.

They needed an approach that would help manage the fandom's response. Any British person working with them would have been aware of the response to Take That ending, and 1D and their team also had the very fresh knowledge of how the fans responded to Zayn leaving. I believe they felt a certain duty of care to their fans and felt that officially splitting up would have been too much for them to take, and it was better to leave the door open to a reunion.

Also, more cynically, it allowed the label to exploit the final tour dates and album sales before they departed, and preserve the 'we're brothers' image that was so important to the fans.

I find it baffling that adult fans of 1D don't get this. Yes, 1D lied about being back in 18 months. I'm the first person to usually say "believe what they actually say, not the fantasy/conspiracy you've made up in your head", but I do think this is a completely different set of circumstances. This was PR 101. It's a white lie, a lie to soften the blow, a lie that any grown-up can see a mile away. No-one outside the 1D fandom believed that band were going on hiatus. No-one! Any fan who believed it was either a) too young to know better (which is why 1D did it), or b) willfully fooling themselves.

As for Louis, I don't think he was being disingenuous when he talked about 1D once they'd ended. I think fans just interpret what he says with their own biases to the fore. Nothing that Louis has ever said post-Dec 2015 made me think he believed the band was coming back after 18 months or that they genuinely were on a hiatus.

Louis talked about being surprised and bitter that the band was ending. He has spoken really frankly about how difficult those discussions about 1D's future were. So yes, I think he was finding it difficult to accept what Harry and others were saying during those conversations in that last year of 1D. He literally said so!

“It was an uncomfortable time more than anything. We’ve always had a level of respect for each other in these meetings and we always said that 100 per cent honesty and openness is so important if you’re going to get on as a band.

It made those situations a little bit difficult because I felt like I really was building up confidence in myself and in my place within the band and as a songwriter in the band.

“I could feel that potentially it was going to be a break. What was difficult was trying to understand how long that might be. So that process was kind of a little uncomfortable.

“You’re asking guys who have grown up being best friends to make selfish decisions, which they should do, based on themselves.

But it doesn’t change the fact that it was difficult for me to accept at first.”

This all happened before 1D ended. A fact that most of Louis' fans chose to ignore. By the night of 1D's last performance, Louis was saying (in footage from that night that he released in his documentary):

"As far as I'm concerned there's no guarantee and there's no security, nobody knows what's coming after this. Anything could come next - absolutely anything! It's like starting again to be honest, for me. I'll just take it as it comes, I suppose"

Does that sound like someone who's saying, "We'll definitely be back in 18 months?" No! He has explicitly said that he found the "not knowing" difficult to accept. Some of his fans have twisted that into "He didn't know 1D had ended! He was duped!". Like, how dumb do you think the guy is?? Give him some credit, of course he knew 1D was ending!!! THEY WERE OUT OF CONTRACT! They did not re-sign. That was a decision made long before their final show.

Louis struggling to accept it does not equal Louis being kept in the dark. He wanted certainty, he wanted answers, he wanted to know what his future was going to look like. That's not something anyone could give him, he had to figure that out for himself. Louis knows that, he's spoken about it publicly a thousand times. It drives me nuts that people ignore him!

I could go on about this forever so I'll leave it here :)

[releaseholiday]

work for an Odeon cinema in the UK and we always watch new films before putting them on our screens just to ensure they run smoothly. We've had to send some back in the past.

Anyway, I saw aotv yesterday and was disappointed. It's rated 15 for explicit language because Louis swears constantly except when he's with Freddie, who features a lot. He does talk about how some fans won't accept F and how it hurts him. He also says that he's had to come to terms with being lied to about the hiatus and that Harry split 1d because he wanted a massive solo career. Nothing about Larries except Charlie says 'you have a lot of lgbt fans' and Louis replies 'yes, even though I'm straight, it's weird.' 😖

There are some scenes in Mexico and at the Barnet house with the dogs, and an E mention back in 2020 during the pandemic but the film ends before they split up with fitf getting a number one. Most of it is like afhf film on steroids with lots of concert footage, backstage drinking.

Bestie pls tell me you’re a troll bc if that’s true…rip to Louis

[zot3-flopped]

I’ll be honest about something here. I have no complaints about anything that Harry has done in his solo career regarding 1D. He’s behaved with a lot of dignity and has never really directly been negative about his experience or his ex-band mates. He’s been first class all the way, and it’s served him well

BUT - I hope that going forward, in future interviews, or whatever, if he’s ever asked the “will 1D reunite” question again - that he basically shuts it down. He can be kind, and classy. But something along the lines of “that ship has sailed” would be good I think. Before I don’t think he had any reason to shut it down - even though he likely has zero intention of ever reuniting - but what does it hurt to say he would never say no. But now I think it would be good to say no. I think he’s at the point where he can afford to say no, and it’s something I would honestly like to see.

Just my opinion today. Missing him and his voice a lot right now.

I wish Harry would put out a statement saying that he's officially left the band. No more talk of a reunion or saying 1d are 'on hiatus'. Let's be ruthless and call a split a split.

[1d-oneliner-fest]

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[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

https://www.tumblr.com/eminentzayn/133426168731?source=share

Thoughts?

I read the whole article from Fader to put this quote into the context of everything Zayn said.

Interesting paragraphs:

So you can see in the article that Zayn’s transition to RCA was brokered by Simon Cowell and he really didn’t have a choice but to sign on with a Sony label.

The next paragraph discusses the impact of Zayn’s leaving on the relationship with 1D fans. What’s left unspoken in the article is the fact that Zayn not only has to worry about the fans’ support for him, but he also needs to feel responsible for fans not leaving the rest of One Direction.

While the plastic may be off, saying goodbye to One Direction’s billion-dollar brand and global fan base means that as a solo act, Zayn will likely reach a significantly smaller audience. “A big part of why I left the band is I made the realization that it wasn’t actually about [being the biggest] anymore,” he says, unconcerned. “It wasn’t about the amount of ticket sales that I get. It was more about the people that I reach. I want to reach them in the right way, and I want them to believe what I’m saying. I’ve done enough in terms of financial backing for me to live comfortably. I just want to make music now. If people want to listen to that, then I’m happy. If they don’t want to listen to it, then don’t fucking listen to it. I’m cool with that too. I’ve got enough. I don’t need you to buy it on a mass scale for me to feel satisfied.”

Zayn — and all 1D ex-members— really cannot say anything that takes away the marketing value of 1D.

Now read the entire paragraph in context:

That’s not to say that he’ll never work with his former bandmates again. In old interviews and even in the note announcing he was quitting, Zayn always expressed a desire to remain “friends for life” with his former bandmates. So it was surprising when only weeks after his exit he got into an argument on Twitter with Louis over someone’s poor choice of a photo filter. I ask him where he and the group stand now. “I spoke to Liam about two weeks ago,” Zayn says. “It was the first time I’d spoken to him since I left the band, and I rung him, and he wanted to talk. He said that he didn’t understand it at the time, but he now fully gets why I had to do what I did. He understands that it’s my thing, that I had to do that, and that basically he wants to meet up and sit down and have a good chat in person, and he wants to do some music and work on some stuff aside from being in the band, which we always wanted to do anyway.”

You see how Zayn has framed the 1D relationships as Louis versus Liam. This means that Zayn can avoid discussing anything about Louis— he has skillfully swerved from disagreements, motivations, fights that framed the end of 1D and the reasons for his exit. This interview made it seem as if his leaving was entirely motivated by Zayn’s unhappiness with lifestyle and music genres (which wasn’t true). Remember, at the time of this interview (November 2015), 1D hiatus had been announced, but fans had been promised that they would come back. Zayn swung the discussion toward the most anodyne, neutral person in the band, to Liam— a neutral figure in the Harry-Louis-Zayn end-of-empire divorce.

The reason for that wasn’t any particular fondness for Liam (although Zayn surely felt affection for him) but because Liam wasn’t involved in the ugliness of the split.

[wellthatwasaletdown]

Some of the facts being spouted are harrie talking points - more excuses. It is true that the last two 1D albums had the lowest sales, but MITAM cannot be compared to the other albums because there was no tour bundling attached. Those are just pure album sales, which means it actually sold quite well. It was only beaten to number 1 by Bieber’s album which had tour bundling attached. It also sold more than Four. It is also not true that boybands are always time limited. New Kids On The Block, Take That and the Back Street Boys still tour, and one of the Irish boybands was also touring again this year. 1D breaking up didn’t have to be a certainty even if their sales had waned.

Boy bands usually have a "shelf life" of around 5 years. That's not speculation or a harrie talking point.. It's based on actual fact, and has been written about/discussed by the music media for years.

Also, New Kids on the Block and Take That both actually broke up before reuniting after 10 years (or more) to record and tour again. Backstreet Boys didn't officially split, but they did take an extended hiatus before coming back to record and tour.

[niallthebadboi]

Seeing all the shit that the 1D lads went through during the band makes me so ashamed to be a fan. How didn't we see it? Why didn't we, as loyal fans, see that by the end they were tired and struggling. 5 albums in 5 years aswell as touring too. That's enough to make anyone depressed. It makes me ashamed that I was an older fan (late teens) and I didn't spot anything sooner.

I was angry when they split, it's not a fucking hiatus no matter what bullshit they say, I was so frustrated. How could they leave us? I already had mental health issues and the boys were the one thing keeping me grounded and they just left.

I remember the day Zayn left. I was in college, animal biology class to be exact, when at 5pm (ish) I saw on my phone that Zayn was leaving. I was so angry. How could he? I cried all the way home then I cried for the rest of the night. They were a constant in my shit show of a life but now I felt like they were slipping away. Did they really love us? Or did they just care about our money?

I understand why he did it. I would of left years ago if I was in that position.

I know they'll never see this, but I'm sorry. I'm so fucking sorry that we never saw anything wrong and we continued to pump money into the shit show that Simon had created.

I don't like listening to One Direction as much as I did. I still do listen from time to time but I feel sick every time I'm sad and I hear a song from them because it makes me remember how overworked they were. How it wasn't their lyrics, how they probably recorded that line of a song then went and played a show when they were so tired. It makes me so angry that they were made to work so fucking hard as such a young age.

I'm so proud of all of them for growing into their own people, making the music that they wanted to make from the start. How they've achieved so fucking much on their own when they probably didn't think it was possible.

[dearweirdme]

so this larry situation has started a discussion. i am not a larrie btw but i know rain you used to be one. in my opinion larry is definitely an example of shipping taken too far.

louis's statement kinda scares me "there’s nothing I can say or do to dispel the believers of that conspiracy. they are so intertwined with what they believe to be the truth now that they won’t actually see the truth for what it is." even after this statement, i saw a few larries who still believe that his management is making him do all this. that gave me the shudders.

if louis and harry used to be a thing and this is how they turned out now, i would happily accept tae and jk to be just friends rather than their relationship turning into something disastrous like larry.

i think for me the only way i will continue to believe in taekook (assuming that they cannot come out officially as a couple) is if they both stay single for pretty much the rest of their life. so this is like a pretty long term theory lol but this will be my ultimate proof. because if they cannot get married or openly be together, its not like they can just tell us that, the only way we can spot it is if both of them are single. and ofc this theory only works out if only tae and jk out of all the members are single well into their age. if literally any other member is also single then this theory doesn't work.

anyways what do you think? what is your version of final proof?

Hi anon!

The difficulty of Larry fandom is that after 1d went on hiatus.. there was close to no real interactions to be witnessed between Harry and Louis. Before hiatus, most Larries were still quite certain they were together and they got to actually watch them interact and look at how they reacted to each other. When that disappeared.. the fandom kinda had to go by clues and fill in the gaps. But that leaves so much room to be wrong. That is why I feel fairly certain that they were together during or for parts of 1d, but perhaps not much after hiatus. There’s so much that makes Larry fandom a tough and complicated place. They are dealing with a band that’s no longer active, two solo artists that are quite different, a lot if newer fans who don’t really understand 1d history.. etc. All stuff that makes for a complex situation. Not all Larries are as unhinged (same as how Tkkrs differ from each other), but if you base your opinion on twitter larries 😬.

I think unhinged theories emerge when fans think they have to speak and fight for their favorite artist. We can kinda see it here too, with some fans talking about members hating each other. To me that is unhinged as well. You are absolutely right in saying Larry fandom (as a whole) takes it too far. There’s a lot of unhinged theories going around. I don’t think Louis has to do this because of his management, I think he has a lot of control these days. The idea that he doesn’t is something that stems from their earlier days, when their label and management did seem to have a lot of control.

It is very important to take note of time passing and of situations changing and I feel that is lacking in Larry fandom. A lot of people hold on to what once was without leaving much room for new developments.

The same thing goes for Tkk. I just try to go with what Tae and Jk show us. I think they have continued to show us their closeness so at this moment I have little reason to doubt that they’re together. When that changes (and not to bring down the mood or something, but we do not know how enlistment and being apart will effect them) I will still go with what I see and accept if I feel they have broken up. If at any point one of them announces an engagement or marriage.. I’ll take that to mean they split up or that maybe we were wrong (depending on context).

You always have to do with the information you get. In this situation it’s always possible that at one point something comes to light that changes our perspective. For me Taennie wasn’t that, but for some it was. For me Tae and/or Jk denying Tkk probably will be, others might still carry on.

My ultimate proof of Tae and Jk being together will be when I see both of them come out in 10+ years or so. If they make it so far ofcourse.. otherwise I’ll probably forever wonder 😂. But it’s not that important for me to get ultimate proof of them together. In the end what I want is for them to be happy, whether it’s with each other romantically or platonically.

[whoreforlarrystuff]

Hey.. I've read that harry has least screenspace compared to other guys in AOTV(but I've also read that there is kind of montage for H in the beginning not sure which is true) and also that camera panned to Harry whenever there was talks about band going on hiatus or break talks.. that is louis was of saying that H being the reason for split without actually telling it.. is it true? If you've seen or heard about such thing?? If its actually true to a point then it makes me think that if they've actually ever cleared their differences and their portrayal as enemies is actually true🫨.. I mean do you put the person you love in such light is my question...

Hi Love!

I highly recommend seeing the movie if you haven’t already! I saw it in theaters, and then when the download was being passed around on here, I saved it & rewatched parts of it.

I didn’t count screen time in the movie for each of the guys- based on memory, I know that there’s scenes with Liam that are much more in depth and post 1D days.

There’s also some moments that feel very specifically Harry / Larry related- there’s a moment before the last performance where they hug and Lou is shirtless. Leading up to that moment you can tell Louis is nervous / Harry can’t stop looking at him from across the room( Adding the hug gif below)

I think if we suddenly got footage of H & L together post 1D (which is what most of the film covers) it would be very very surprising- especially since the narrative is the opposite.

I didn’t get the vibe at all that Louis was attempting to blame the hiatus on H, or that he was painting him in a bad light at all!

[berlinini]

"1D was at the top of their game and Louis was finally finding his place in the band; I can tell you if he knew they were splitting up he would have been much more angry"

No, 1D was definitely not at the top of their game. Their time was running out like all boybands. Their album and tour sales were steadily declining year by year. MITAM had the lowest sales of all their albums, and they didn't sell out their last US tour. Louis had found his place but the band was in decline.

Louis WAS really angry! He has said how angry he was. It's right there in his documentary. He was confused and upset, he didn't know what he was going to do and he didn't know if they'd get back together again. That doesn’t mean he or anyone was "lied to" about the hiatus. They were out of contract! None of them believed they were on an 18 month hiatus, come on!

Of course Louis and all of them would lie to their fans if they thought it would make it easier and safer for everyone. This was a very young and extremely passionate boyband fandom. Nobody wanted them freaking out and doing something stupid and desperate like when other boybands ended (and Sony didn't want them to stop buying 1D records).

It was obviously hardest for Louis to let go. But it's insulting to him and Liam and Niall to pretend they somehow were clueless enough to think they'd be back as 1D within 18 months. That was a story geared to their youngest fans to make their last few months easier for everyone. Everyone knew 1D was over. Louis just had the hardest time coming to terms with it. He's told his story. No need to make another one up.

From Rolling Stone's review of AOTV:

One Direction delivered their final performance on stage at The X Factor, right back where they started. It was December 2015, about a month after they released their fifth album in as many years. But unlike their prior albums, there was no world tour on the horizon to keep the cycle going. Instead, they would be embarking on a much-needed hiatus. “Let’s give it 18 months,” Tomlinson said on Alan Carr’s Chatty Man a few days before that performance. It’s been more than seven years now, but he seems to have genuinely believed it was only a break at the time.

“Even right up until we went on the break, there was still really no closure on that idea” Tomlinson says in the documentary. “You didn’t really, or at least I didn’t, understand what it was going to be. I think the feeling I remember the most is a little bit of anger, because I didn’t want to go on a break. It didn’t just upset me, it shocked me. I wasn’t prepared for it. I thought for me, it was the band or nothing.”

[twopoppies]

Hi Gina. Something has been bothering me for a while now I just need to get it off my chest. Sometimes I feel like people's attitude toward the Azoffs might just be anti-semitism, whether they're conscious of it or not. Like, it really rubs me the wrong way whenever I see people saying that the Azoffs are controlling Harry or that the Azoffs are greedy. Obviously, those things could theoretically be true, but I think that the immediate urge to jump to those conclusions without much proof or knowledge of the actual situation is troubling to me.

Hi love. Yeah, I don’t think you’re completely off base. Perhaps people don’t realize how antisemitic the way they characterize the Azoffs often sounds.

What I find really funny is that in 2014 when we started seeing Harry around Jeff and Irving, people were really excited. There were theories that Irving was going to sign the band (obviously this was before the “hiatus” was announced) and save the day. There was lots of talk about how Irving helped 30 seconds to Mars get out of shitty contracts and maybe he could do the same for 1D. Clearly we were very naive.

But the hatred has grown as our fandom has split. As Harry’s career grew and Louis’ stalled, rads decided that the Azoffs and Harry were responsible for that, that the Azoffs were evil, that they ran the entire music industry, and that they controlled every award show, interview, article, and streaming platform in favor of their artists. So now they’re just money grubbing, greedy, nepotistic, cheats.

I just find it all boring and a little bit gross.

[cantquitu]

I know if you're a fan it's easy to get caught up in 1D complications like Larry or why they split, but you know what impresses me about them?

Post-hiatus (or intra-hiatus I guess 😉) they don't say a lot. They get asked when/if they're coming back and they keep to the only sensible answer. Louis has said more about the end of it than Niall or Harry, and Liam talked a bit but mainly in the context of the problems he had with the oppressive nature of fame. But overall it would barely cover two sides of A4. For a band that ended 9 years ago that is quite something.

When I read the ask about them coming back for a performance to honour Liam, I immediately thought, oh no, they will never do that, they are all working on their solo careers too hard to go back to 1D things. What proof do I have of that? NONE. We don't know them at all and I find it impressive!

I feel exactly the same. In celeb-terms, it's truly unusual how tight-lipped they've been about 1D. When they've revealed more than just the party line, it's always been from a deeply personal perspective, never broader than that. Such as Liam talking about his struggles with alcohol, Louis talking about how he found it difficult to come to terms with his role in the band, Harry talking about his anxiety around the risk of him messing things up or doing the wrong thing, and everyone knowing so much about him. Niall has said very little (that I'm aware of), while Zayn was probably the most loose-lipped. But even he was pretty restrained. They're all been very protective of 1D. We always said Liam was most likely to tell all, and now he never will. I think the others may become even less likely to reveal more after this terrible tragedy.

[zot3-flopped]

The 1D hiatus gave me trust issues. 1.5 years, my ass. 😂

- letdown mod

She's an OT5! This explains the hate blog. She blames Harry for splitting the band.

That explains the obsessive tracking of what Harry does, and why she won't entertain a word against the other four losers, including abusive Liam.