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#guilty as charged#herbert west#re animator#reanimator#dan cain#danbert#reanimator 1985#re-animator#bride of reanimator 1991
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Never ask a mad scientist if he still ever goes to sleep.
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Pushover (in the literal sense)
#reanimator#herbert west#dr west#herbert west fanart#reanimator fanart#bride of reanimator#re animator#bride of re animator#bride of reanimator 1991#reanimator 1985#herbert west reanimator#ignore the background#art stuff
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Tales of the Teen Titans #53 - Dick and Kory vs. Donna and Terry; very cute doubles match inside Titans Tower
Batman (Vol. 1) #468 - Tim practicing against a ball machine at Wayne Manor. Bizarrely, he's shown playing both left- and right-handed in different panels (but primarily left). Artist mistake Ambidextrous Tim evidence?!
#Dick and Tim#Dick & Tim#Dick Grayson#Tim Drake#I know tennis is just a sport young men of a certain social class could easily be expected to play#especially in this time period (1985 and 1991 respectively)#and Dick and Tim are both athletic and shown to be good at a lot of sports#also Jack Drake is into tennis to some extent - he dragged Tim along to that “Tennis Open” in Gotham in Prodigal pt 4-5#so quite possibly it's something the Drake family might have done together#but my brain still goes brothersssss :) <3#if Tim knew Dick played (which I bet he did the lil stalker) I could see him being happy to keep up with it. because Robin plays tennis! :D#little brother behavior#they so got onto a court together at some point#and had fun trying to leave as many bruises as possible smacking balls into each other#Donna Troy#Terry Long#Koriand'r#Bruce Wayne#Titans#dcu#DC Comics panels#batfam#post tag#comics reading tag#Dick and Donna#tennis
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So y'all know how Jeff Combs was doing a theater production which someone involved with Re-Animator saw him in, and how he's suggested that the character he played there influenced how he played Herbert West.
I relayed this to @andalusiapunk and they were like "Oh! That explains it! He's theater-acting!"
I am not an expert by any means, but I did misspend my teenage years in a magnet school as a theater student. I understood immediately what they meant by theater-acting and I'm mad I didn't come up with it.
A lot of this has to do with Herbert's overall physicality. We all love talking about how he's hyper-dramatic, right? How he moves in a particular way that is extremely precise and sharp and, to be on point, theatrical. How he spins the tape recorder in his hand; how he offers Meg's heart in BRIDE; how he fumbles or manipulates syringes in various scenes.
None of that's in the script and it's not necessarily justified by what's happening... unless you're trying to make sure the audience in the backass end of the theater can see you're holding something small, like a tape recorder or a syringe or a human heart. As I observed elsewhere, you can trick the audience into 'seeing' or 'hearing' things that aren't present onstage or screen if your body language insists on its reality.
And, not to get into super-nerdy film history, but: originally theater-acting and movie-acting were one and the same. Early films are blocked like plays, they have extended sequences without constant cutting between shots (like an audience watching a play), and the extremely clear, over-enunciation of a play-actor trying to make sure those poor bastards in the back can hear what they're saying. And like a play, all acting was heavily rehearsed and expected to hit the same points and produce the same results every time.
What changed this was Marlon Brando introducing the idea of improvisation into movie-acting, a choice which also led to a greater flexibility in movie-acting... including delivery of lines. A more "natural", verisimilitudinous delivery became acceptable for films. This doesn't make either style bad, to be clear: each serves its purpose.
Bruce Abbott (to name the most obvious example) is doing movie-acting. He's got some Protagonist Accent going for him, but he has a clear variety of tone and a great deal of subtlety with his facial expressions and delivery. The same goes for the rest of the cast, although David Gale kind of straddles the line between these two styles.
Herbert's delivery is pure theater-acting. When he and Dan invade the morgue, Dan is whispering--but Herbert is stage whispering, which is why he hisses so much. I've made jokes on here before about how Herbert was born on Skid Row in Little Shop of Horrors-verse, and he thinks he's supposed to be in a musical... and, you know, LSOH is a film based on a play, only in that movie, EVERYBODY is theater-acting.
Anyhow, lotta words to find a different way to compliment Combs and the rest of the REANI cast on their acting, because I live for sorcery enjoying these damn movies.
#reanimator#re animator 1985#bride of re animator#bride of reanimator 1991#jeff combs#bruce abbott#david gale#acting#meta#uninformed commentary#i live for analysis#nothingenough speaks
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happy birthday bride of re-animator!!! ur side plots are so so skipable but u have heart (ha) where it counts💚
#reanimator#herbert west#re animator#re-animator#reanimator 1985#bride of reanimator#bride of re-animator#bride of re animator#bride of reanimator fanart#bride of reanimator 1991#herbert west fanart#heliojart
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Izzy Stradlin Vest Appreciation
Part II
'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.
#izzy stradlin was put on this earth to torture me#he tortures me with his vest#he tortures me with his bottom lip#he tortures me with his guitar#he tortures me with his words#izzy stradlin#izzy gnr#izzy stradlin and the juju hounds#izzy juju#izzy solo#axl rose#duff mckagan#guitarists#guitarist#songwriters#singer songwriter#composer#the classic five#afd#uyi#gnr lies#1985 - 1991#guns n roses#gnr#rock and roll#guns n' roses#rock n roll#rock#every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRIDE OF RE-ANIMATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#reanimator#herbert west#re animator#reanimator 1985#bride of reanimator#bride of reanimator 1990#dan cain#daniel cain#bride of reanimator 1991#happy birthday#HAPPY BIRTHDAYYYY#YAAYYYYYYY#BIRTHDAY GIRL#ILY BRIDE MY FAVOURITE MOVIE
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les mis enjoyers i have a question okay
#i have a lot of opinions about this btw#namely that the ranking of which ones are the best goes:#1985 london cast recording#1991 paris cast recording#1980 recording (disco enjolras)#and then everything else is irrelevant#and it always catches me out when people quote things with different lyrics#like drink with me#because fr i'm exclusively used to the original english lyrics#les miserables
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I'll Just... drop this here 🔥 🛢️🎆 🏃
#val kilmer#the saint#simon templar#batman forever#batman#the doors#the doors 1991#jim morrison#photoshoot#the salton sea 2002#real genius 1985#real genius#chest hair#fueling the fire#Bare chest#Val kilmer chest hair#bwahahaha#thirst trap#hot#sexy post
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Jeffrey fans really need to acknowledge how good you have it😭/lh/j
#reanimator#reanimator 1985#re animator 1985#re animator#bride of reanimator 1991#bride of reanimator#bride of re animator#reanimator meme#herbert west#dan cain#jeffrey combs#bruce abbott#dr herbert west#dr dan cain#daniel cain#dr carl hill#david gale#david gale actor#the evil clergyman#from beyond#beyond reanimator#summer heat#syngenor#syngenor david gale#summer heat bruce abbott
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"Worship of the Female Form" - Alméry Lobel-Riche // "Bride of Re-Animator" - Brian Yuzna
#Bride of Reanimator#daniel cain#the bride#herbert west#danbert#reanimator 1985#brian yuzna#almery lobel-richie#bride of reanimator 1991
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My top ten favorite Disney villains
Number One: Chernabog
Number Two: Maleficent
Number Three: The Horned King
Number Four: The Headless Horseman
Number Five: Jafar
Number Six: Captain Hook
Number Seven: Scar
Number Eight: Dr. Facilier
Number Nine: Gaston
Number Ten: Hades
I love these guys man
#disney#disney villains#disney movies#fantasia 1940#Chernabog#sleeping beauty 1959#maleficent#the black cauldron 1985#The Horned King#the adventures of ichabod and mr. toad 1949#the headless horseman#aladdin 1992#jafar#the lion king 1994#scar#peter pan 1953#captain hook#the princess and the frog 2000#dr. facilier#beauty and the beast 1991#Gaston#Hercules 1997#Hades
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Random assortment of Reanimator drawings from my sketchbook
#reanimator#herbert west#herbert west fanart#re animator#reanimator fanart#danbert#reanimator 1985#bride of reanimator#bride of reanimator 1991#dan cain#daniel cain#art stuff
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I've gotten really into Re-Animator recently so I tried to practice drawing them!! I wanna draw them more!! Maybe I'll finalize some of these sketches/ideas if people like them. Also splatoon-ifies ur scientist and doctor
#reanimator#bride of reanimator#herbert west#daniel cain#dan cain#re animator#reanimator 1985#bride of reanimator 1991#reanimator fanart#fanart#splatoon#digital art
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Why we wanna transition to Mad Scientist (or, revulsion and queerness in horror)
(Hi, @ash-eats-film! This is the thing I mentioned!)
Horror has a few baseline emotions it tries to inflict on the audience. This has been written about for decades, most famously by Stephen King, but the baseline elements most writers agree on are as follows.
Dread: Anxiety over what is about to happen
Terror: The fear of what is occurring right this second
Revulsion: Being forced to interact directly with what's happening right now
Black comedy: Being tricked into laughing at either the terror or the revulsion
Horror: The trauma response to what just happened
A great example of this can be seen in The Evil Dead II (YT link that doesn't include the full context, but does have the, uh, money shot). There's the dread of realizing there's something in the root cellar; the terror of when the Deadite pops up in the trapdoor; the combined revulsion and black comedy of Ash jumping on the Deadite's skull/the door, popping out its eyeball which shoots into Bobby Joe's mouth, and then the horror of what just went down rolling over Ash and his current companions.
Often, revulsion and black comedy go hand in hand. That's because they're tension relievers. The revolting thing becomes ridiculous, and you laugh at how ridiculous it is. This lets you settle down in the midst of the gore and death, just slightly, just enough to get through it... so the horror can fully set in for you, too, once it's over.
You also, often, question your own stability if you laugh in the middle of a gross-out horror scene: "Am I sick? Is there something wrong with me for laughing at X?" This is even worse if the villain starts laughing--now you're questioning whether you're IDing with the monster. Are you okay? Is something wrong with you?
Revulsion is often framed as the slutty member of the good, proper, morally-upright brigade of horror. We have a name for folks who seek out gross-out horror--they're gore-hounds, a term that is virtually always pejorative when applied to other people. We call certain types of horror "torture porn" or "gore porn", as though it is inherently sleazy and sexual to rely on this specific emotional reaction. (Note that we don't have "black comedy-porn", or "dread hounds", even though a dread hound sounds really fucking cool.)
Not to go off on a huge tangent, but I think the issue with media that overly relies on revulsion is that it's unbalanced, not that it's bad. A movie that's nothing but dread never has any emotional payoff. A movie that's nothing but terror never lets the audience relax back into their seats and, paradoxically, will become boring (imagine two hours of jumpscares).
So forth and so on: all aspects of horror rely on each other to survive. That includes scenes that make you go "Awww, sick" while nervously cackling.
Here's the thing: in previous generations, revulsion was similarly understood to be an essential part of horror, but what led to a revolted reaction was very different.
Lovecraft (boo this man! BOOOOO) understood the power of revulsion, which was the source of a lot of his strangest and most vivid descriptions. It was also the source of some of his most bigoted ideas working into his stories. The undercurrent of "non-WASPs are evil because they are repulsive" is as pervasive in his work as "the universe is incomprehensibly vast". You kind of can't get around that.
But there's another thing Lovecraft did to generate revulsion. He wrote a number of stories where an unhealthy focus on corpses, graveyards, graverobbing, and the like is, indirectly or directly, associated with sexual perversion.
How many, you may ask? Off the top of my head, there's "The Loved Dead", "In the Vault", "The Disinterment", "Pickman's Model", The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, "The Hound" and "Herbert West: Re-Animator". All of these tales share certain themes, which don't repeat beat-for-beat in each tale but do overlap:
Male character becomes obsessed with dead bodies--whether that's stealing them, having sex with them, desecrating them, or resurrecting them.
He is comfortable around death and the dead to a degree that is unusual, sometimes explicitly stating that he prefers the smells/sights of death to those of life.
Terms like "fiendish", "hellish", "abnormal" and "perverse" are used to describe him; his gaze towards dead bodies or to experiments may be framed as "leering" or "speculative".
He is frequently a twink; often described as being frail, if not noticeably beautiful; he may recall being mocked for being "bookish" or "weak" as a child.
He is superficially charming in a way that gets him by in polite society, but not long-term nor in-depth.
He often ensnares an otherwise "normal" man to share his obsessions, effectively recruiting him as an assistant... until the "normal" guy realizes he's about to go on the chopping block (or, in at least one story, already was on the chopping block).
Their crimes involve a lot of sneaking around late at night, locked doors, whispering so they don't get caught (or they'll be killed), secretiveness, glee at getting away with it, and frequently, sharing the same living space.
The Unrepentant Evil Dude is often killed at the end of his tale in a way that implies vigilante/mob justice is at hand.
The other may be allowed to live if he's very sorry and frames the whole story as being the fault of the other guy, or he may die too while affirming his horrible demise as just, even if it terrifies him.
(One could make an argument that Wilbur Whateley fits into some of these tropes. It's me I'm one)
If this all sounds very gay, Lovecraft probably would have agreed. He had as dim a view of homosexuality as he did on most other things that were Outside The Norm. In other words, we were supposed to see Richard Upton Pickman with his ghouls and think, "Ah, yes, this is a metaphor for queerness", only we were supposed to be revolted by that revelation.
This same attempt at revulsion can be easily read into Victor Frankenstein, and probably more Mad Scientists than I can name offhand (but feel free to in reblogs). Frankenstein's "crimes against nature" were connected to dead bodies as well, and likewise involved a lot of sneaking around, locked doors, and worry about what would happen were he caught with this naked man-thing he's keeping in his dorm. His crime, as with his parody character Herbert West, is creating life outside the bounds of heterosexual cisgender sex. This was meant to revolt readers' sensibilities as much as the whole cutting-up-corpses-and-stitching-them-back-together thing would.
This is why, if we're being honest, "Re-Animator" and "Bride of Re-Animator" are not necessarily gay… they're homophobic. This might be controversial, but stick with me.
I feel like Gordon and Yuzna were tapping into that old-fashioned Revulsion Handbook, including from the source material, which thematically linked Herbert West with queerness. (I'm using "queer" a lot here, but I would personally include trans-friendly readings under that rubric; I'm using "queer" in the analytical sense and not solely in the identity sense.) This means that, ironically, a lot of what we could point to as queer subtext is actually homophobic text.
This is reinforced by the novelization of the first film, written by a homophobe who got Trumpist brainworms later in life. He wanted to make West repulsive to the reader, and therefore, he tried to make West more gay. And IT WORKED.
To be clear, I'm not accusing anybody, other than the novelist, of being a homophobe. There's a difference between possessing internalized bigoted beliefs which express themselves in writing, versus utilizing tropes originating in bigotry because That's What's Done Around Here. (I can understand why others might not perceive a meaningful difference.) Like the Cuzco lizards, this queerness-as-villainy is definitely a stupid thing ported in from the source material.
I do think that this is why everybody but Our Queen Barbara Crampton seems embarrassed or nonplussed by all the transfags pestering them about fellatio tapes. It's because they don't get why this thing appeals so much to us. It shouldn't. If anything, they should be canceled for having yet another queer-coded villain, along with a number of other plot choices of questionable taste (I'm looking at you, The Head Scene, and I don't like what I see).
Only, uh, it didn't work out that way long-term, did it?
I thank Cronenberg and venereal horror for this, in part. Brutally queer despite not being explicitly gay, venereal horror is what happens when the characters should be revolted, but aren't.
This kind of thing is horrifying for crossing the line twice: first by being disgusting, then by having characters respond as though it is exciting, or sexually stimulating, or if nothing else, normal. They are perverse. They leer at the dead and the subjects of their experiments. And the disgusting monsters at the center of these narratives are celebrated. Their twisted sexualities are explored with the same brave frankness other filmmakers give to milquetoast cishet missionary nonsense. Their political views are given life and air, and usually, they're right. Their deaths, if they come at all, are framed as tragedies brought on by society's sick rejection of the flesh their brave experimentation.
Cronenberg's the dude who unironically thinks that Shivers (trigger warning for literally everything) has a happy ending. My man David's got subscriptions where others have issues.
Venereal horror has given us a new metaframework for looking at the repulsive, the monstrous, and the problematic and responding to it… differently.
Now here's another thing: Lovecraft likewise provided a structure for embracing the grotesque and the queer.
Pickman, the Decadent artist, paints photorealistic, enormous portraits of ghouls. Literal flesh-eaters. He is fascinated by them, comfortable with them. "Model" heavily implies that Pickman is a ghoul changeling--switched at birth with a human child. This leans into Lovecraft's ideas about heritability being a major source of horror, of course, and seems run of the mill until you get to The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath.
In there, Pickman appears again, but this time as a ghoul. He has cast off his human social shackles and joined the beings he loves, beings who understand him and support him. Kadath is notable in that the ghouls are actually... like... reliable, loyal, and morally good? Carter's opinion pretty much is, "They do eat human corpses and they smell awful, but they're all very nice and want to help me on my quest, so maybe they're not so bad (if not as good as the cat army)".
This feels like Lovecraft acknowledging that his entire approach of linking queerness, death, and revulsion is fundamentally flawed. Once you become familiar with the repulsive, it becomes not-really-that-repulsive-at-all. You can find beauty in it, and amusement, and love. Pickman embracing his ghoulish nature isn't all that different from Seth Brundle's overall lack of revulsion at his body's transformation. And it's not that different from what a lot of transmasculine folks go through, either.
It's not that transmascs, trans men, and/or transfags don't see what West does as crimes against nature. It's that we're all very fucking tired of being accused of crimes against nature. We're tired of not being able to look at socmed without finding accusations that we're disgusting perverts who sneak around behind closed doors to corrupt innocent, promising people to be our lackeys and partners in crime.
Hell, I refer to my wife as "my partner in crime" not because it's a cute way of acknowledging how well and how much we work together both in life and creativity. It's also because we could have been arrested for our relationship when we got together.
We were illegal.
There was a lot of sneaking around and whispering and trying not to get caught and "what if they call the cops on us if we're clocked". Can I tell my friends about this? Will they reject me or rat me out? Where am I safe? Nowhere. Best to lock the door and then check it again to be sure. Best to be very quiet.
Best to act like a graverobber trying to get their grisly wares back home before good, decent, Christian folk see them.
So when I hear "Blasphemy? Before what God?!", I read it as (whether he's ace or aro, gay or achillean, trans man or transmasc or genderfucked) a queer slogan of defiance, instead of a defense of graverobbing, corpse desecration, and non-consensual resurrection.
We're told we and our bodies are repulsive, so being told that Herbert is also repulsive makes him more relatable. Instead of wondering what the hell's wrong with him for shooting up reagent, we all theorize that it's actually T or has similar effects--because we're all told that T is a toxin that will horribly change and disfigure our bodies. He dresses in a three-piece suit for school, and instead of reading him as a stiff and overly-formal little freak, we assume he's layering up because he hasn't found a hoodie he likes yet.
He cackles at his horrific creations, and instead of saying "What a fucking freak (anguished)", we say "What a fucking freak (affectionate)" and laugh along with him. Who among us hasn't taken apart our Barbies and tried to combine their parts with the Kens? What is a doll, or a human, but a collection of parts to be rearranged? Haven't we also been told we're freaks for rearranging our own parts?
We've already been told by society at large that we are Herbert West. We're just embracing it, in the proud tradition of venereal horror fans who are not revolted when they ought to be, and I think that's delightful.
#fandom meta#reanimator#re animator 1985#bride of reanimator 1991#bride of re animator#herbert west#headcanon#transmasculine#body horror#venereal horror#cronenbergian#writing trope#i live for analysis#lovecraft#this has been rattling around in my head for ages and probably isn't going to cover everything or be correct but here we all are anyway#hope y'all like it
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