#180 degrees longitude between us

[forkaround]

BLs in 2022 didn't kill me but they gave me kinks that are difficult to explain

[gravity-knight]

May not have much furniture but BL posters are a must have for any happy home

[namtanlovesfilm]

one day I need to make a post about the thai shows that used brilliant nicknames to further perfectly describe their characters. one that comes to mind is wang from 180 degrees, which means hope & perfectly represents how much pressure he's had put on him for being his mother's hope in life.

[queerlatine]

I need someone to do a analysis on 180 degree longitude passes through us, someone needs to dissect it and feed it to me with a little spoon

[drama-kpop-quotes]

Drama: 180 Degrees Longitude Between Us (2022) Genere: Romantico, Drama, Melodramma Paese: Thailandia Episodi: 8 Rete Originale: GMM One Durata: 46 min.

[sharonanelie]

Anyone else watched 180 degree between us

Omg 😲😭😭😭🔮

Their chemistry was so good

The ending made me feel so bittersweet. I was really rooting for them to be together because I thought there was something to explore since it was love at first sight for me. But this series was heavy on the talking and there was so much pain and every character had issues... so the ending really was the only one that made sense...

The mum was so selfish, the other guy was just hurt and scared and the son was super impulsive and had daddy issues... omg.. I hope they find healing some day

[blunaggregator]

BLA Top 20 Thai BL Series of 2022

KINNPORSCHE

MY SCHOOL PRESIDENT

LOVE MECHANICS

MY ONLY 12%

LOVE IN THE AIR

VICE VERSA

TRIAGE

TO SIR, WITH LOVE

THE ECLIPSE

180 DEGREE LONGITUDE PASSES THROUGH US

THE MIRACLE OF TEDDY BEAR

BETWEEN US

NEVER LET ME GO

CUTIE PIE

AI LONG NHAI

REMEMBER ME

21 DAYS THEORY

CUPID'S LAST WISH

STAR & SKY : STAR IN MY MIND

DEAR DOCTOR, I'M COMING FOR SOUL

[blorbingqls]

People from BL that make me want them carnally (always)

i was not tagged by anyone, however, was very inspired by the list of @respectthepetty @neuroticbookworm @lurkingshan @waitmyturtles and @bengiyo - and all others whose list had been on my feed. I have a very similar list but I just wanna give appreciation and adoration to a lot of these gays that have been on my mind. always.

note: you'll see a pattern. this list can't be numbered

Tan-Bun from Manner of Death

need i even say anything?

Kinn-Porsche from KinnPorsche

the main man-boobies and small waist appreciation

Pete from KinnPorsche

one gif can't sum him up (a trend following all my blorbos)

Win from Between Us

do i want him or want to be him? *cries in bisexual*

Sand from Only Friends

I want to do this exact scene above even though i imagine it would be absolutely disgusting irl (since i don't like cigarette smoke)

Ray from Only Friends

i mean can you even resist him? I see you Sand (and Boston), i see you

Jae Young from Semantic Error

see bad boys in greener flags is a weakness - i am sorry but it is what it is (ALSO HOW CAN ANYONE FORGET THE LIP RING)

Choi Yuna from Semantic Error

something something about this woman just makes me GAAAH

Molly from The Warp Effect

the one queer fat representation i wanted in media and it made me go weak on the knees every fucking time

Jean from The Warp Effect

maam, i'll be a better boyfriend than any cishet men you encounter

(not a BL) Giwi from The Player

NAMTAN TIPNAREE I REQUEST YOU TO JUST STEP ON ME

Wang from 180 Degree Longitude Passes Through Us

i mean you see it. i don't have to explain further.

Ayan from The Eclipse

is any of even surprised at this point? (you should not be)

SPECIAL MENTIONs

Jim, Wen, Alan and Gaipa from Moonlight Chicken

these thread of men don't need to be explained lord help me

Pete from Dark Blue Kiss

his one shot in the pool and fashion sense literally had me crawling

Karan from Cherry Magic Thailand

i am a sucker for Tay Tawan atp pls

also, also, also not necessarily from shows but general existence of this man (Jeff Satur [if anyone doesn't know]) makes me want to steal his gender every fucking time

tagging @gunsatthaphan @laowen @reptileofdoom @slayerkitty and anyone who wants to go about it

[forkaround]

someone asked me recently "what is the appeal of BL?" what do you think?

@heretherebedork @respectthepetty @yeetlegay @shortpplfedup @lutawolf @luckydragon10 @apomiles @moerusai @pharawee @poetry-protest-pornography @disaster-j @laughsalot3412 @queersouthasian @everyforkedroad @iffervescent @dancinbutterfly @godotismissingx @highpriestessofjogan @jupiterjames @colourme-feral (I don't know most of you but I've been following your blogs and I'd like to know what you think)

[untilweloveagain]

MY TOP 2023 BLs

6. Our Dining Table: it was such a cute and wholesome show.

5. A Boss and a Babe: is the show perfect? no but did I very much enjoy it? yes

4. Only Friends: the complete opposite of the previous two shows but so interesting.

3. The Eighth Sense: It feels very self-explanatory, one of the best Korean Bls to date.

2. Kimi to Nara Koi wo Shite Mite mo: my favorite Japanese BL hands down, rewatched it in less than two weeks.

My School President: This show is so precious to me, I wish I could watch it as if it was my first time again.

HONORABLE MENTIONS

I Feel You Linger in the Air: the emotions, the production, the plot, everything was great.

180 Degrees Longitude Passes Through Us and Eternal Yesterday: both aren't from this year but I watched them this year and they were great.

The cinematography for 180 Degrees Longitude Passes Through Us was gorgeous. And did Eternal Yesterday make me cry? Yes, it very much did.

Between Us: It ended very early in the year, but I just want to talk about it since it is such a good story. I love all the characters so much, including the ones from Until We Meet Again. I will always be ready for another story with them.

[respectthepetty]

Really big fan of your analysis on BL dramas. I don't think I'll be able to understand half of the things I'm watching if not for you. Thank you for your hard work!

Thanks for letting me know @jyuubin!

Sometimes, I think I'm being too extra; then, I remember this is my blog, and I can post whatever deep analysis I want to.

I'm really on a one-person mission to get people to analyze the media they consume instead of passively ingesting it. I'm not judging anyone who wants an easy breezy watch, but no show is made as black and white, and it's a disservice to the production team to gloss over the creativity that goes into the creation of these shows. Also, once people notice these details, a show becomes more enjoyable.

People knew this scene hit different

White being happy and carefree while he dances under a rainbow flag as Sean falls in love with him [Not Me]

But might have missed the significance of this scene

Vegas being just as chained up and oppressed as Pete with the chains crossing over him as well [KinnPorsche]

You wrote that you wouldn't understand half of the things you watch if you didn't read my posts, but I assure you, once you start to *see* it, you won't stop.

If you watched Pran and Pat in their blues and reds (Bad Buddy)

which usually depicts a Romeo and Juliet type of secret romance, then once you see it in The Eclipse

or Between Us

You'll start noticing it in more shows.

And when a character starts to integrate his love interest's color into his life, that's when we know his feelings are changing.

Talay's color was blue while Puen's was pink. By the end of the series, they had switched colors and intertwined them into purples (Vice Versa).

Once you notice bars obstructing someone's view (I Told Sunset About You)

which usually means being caged in by emotions or oppressed, you'll start to notice them in other places (180 Degree Longitude Passes Through Us).

And a barrier in the middle of two people (Big Dragon & The Eclipse)

means conflict or a communication barrier.

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's people using their skills and trainings to immerse us in a cinematic experience, and once you start to see it, you can't unsee it. Try your hand at an analysis! Pick a show you're watching and see if you see any common color choices, unusual camera angles, or lighting differences. What does the music add to the scene? How do you feel about the scene? Why? Start with yourself, and I guarantee you'll notice the effect the show has on you and start to question why.

Hell, half of the people watching Big Dragon did NOT expect to feel this level of loyalty to those two idiots, but the cinematography immerses us in a story, so we are experiencing the show rather than simply watching it. Even if people aren't aware of it, they have feelings about a particular scene, and that is the magic of cinematography.

[i-got-the-feels]

To you who call yourself a parent, you can only give birth to them but don't own them

To who who are still young, you have to bleed before you learn

To you who call themselves wise, dont let cowardice get the better of you. Pick a side or throw what you believe

[languidlotus]

I finally finished my gifts for @joyeux-tintamarre and @benkaaoi. These are Jao from Secret Crush On You (how did you know I've been wanting to draw him??) and Wang from 180 Degree Longitude Passes Through Us/ 180 Degree Longitude Passes Between Us (of course I know him! that show made me cry. :(((). Hope you like them!

[wen-kexing-apologist]

Rose's Day of Asks

Who were some of your favourite overall performances in terms of physical acting? Hands, face, body, whatever you prefer.

Have a great Day💜

 Hmm this is is a really hard question to- 

Billkin in I Told Sunset About You

Billkin as Teh is one of my favorite physical performances, not just in BL but of all time. I said this in The Conversation episode where we talked about I Told Sunset About You but for a boy that does not say much, Teh is incredibly loud as a character. The way he sits up, the way his face falls, the way he always circles, the grandiose and the miniscule ways that his body reflects his emotions. Do not get me wrong, PP is gorgeous and devastating in his role as Oh, but Billkin has a very very difficult character to contend with and to embody and from the posture, to the motion, the anger, the tears, the jealousy, the joy. He is constantly, constantly moving: tapping his fingers, shaking his leg, pacing, peeking, there is no way Teh is not an exhausting role to play, and he absolutely nailed it.  

[the rest of these are in no particular order, but there are so many, you really need to limit me to like..five cause I can’t do that on my own.]

Nike Nitidon in 180 Degree Longitude Passes Through Us 

Nike as Inthawut is an understated physical performance that I really enjoyed, Inthawut as a character is incredibly self-isolating, distrusting, shameful, and Nike carries that character very stiffly, squared shoulders, rimrod back, but he still moves with such grace to him. I watched all of 180 Degrees just thinking “he’s moving like a dancer” the entire time. Which is such a fascinating way to exist in a story where Inthawut and Sasiwimol as characters are engaging in a sort of social dance around each other and around Wang as they attempt to deflect questions about Siam. 

Hagiwara Riku in My Beautiful Man: Eternal 

Hagiwara is incredible generally but I really want to highlight his performance in My Beautiful Man: Eternal which has one of my favorite acting moments of BL. That is his performance when he is rescuing Kiyoi from Anna’s stalker. He moves so swiftly, so gracefully on a dime between threatening and violent, to soft and loving in his body and in his voice and in the shimmer in his eyes. Is it a surprise that he was able to pull that off? No, he showed such incredible range in his physical performance in the original season jumping between the timid, awkward, pushover to the loud, aggressive to the point of needing three people to hold him down, when he is defending Kiyoi, but it was truly so fun to watch him turn it on and off at any time. 

Also just an additional shout out to Yasei Yugei, specifically for the scene in Utsukushii Kare 2 when Hira tells him he doesn’t love him. The way his face fell? Incredible. 

Hasegawa Makoto in Koi wo Suru nara Nidome ga Joto

I wouldn’t say Hasegawa as Miyata is overall my favorite physical performer, however he had one of my favorite face changes of all time in the episode 4 sex scene. The way he sets his lips, the challenging look in his eyes, it was such an incredibly impressive shift in Miyata who has until that point been rather annoyed, bitchy, or awkward. 

Tod and Boy in Ghost Host, Ghost House

Again, I wouldn’t say they have one of my favorite physical performances overall BUT Tod and Boy in Ghost Host, Ghost House had one of my favorite physicality moments of all time with their sex scene in Episode 4. More accurately with the build up to their first time. Kevin in his shorty little short shorts knowing exactly what he was doing. I can’t even describe the whole thing or what exactly it was about the scene that really did me in but you can absolutely feel the desire, the tension through the screen, and that is in huge part due to the physical performance of both of those actors. Pluem covering his mouth, trying to look away, ugh, exquisite. 

Nishijima and Uchino in Kinou Nani Tabeta? 

I think the hardest thing for me to appreciate with a lot of the Japanese actors is that I haven’t watched a ton of Japanese media so I rarely see the actors cross over between shows or genres and that makes it hard for me to understand just how talented they are at embodying their characters. But oh my god, these two, they are just. Their hug at the end of season one is one of my favorite moments of all time, it makes me so emotional. The full body panic that washed over Shiro’s body when Kenji turned to leave in the first ever episode of What Did You Eat Yesterday? Kenji’s face during the “I know you’re hurting” line, the increasingly frequent smile from Shiro in season 2. Just AHHHH they are both such good physical performers. 

Louis Chiang, Hsu Kai, and Takeda Kuohei in Kiseki: Dear to Me & Old Fashion Cupcake (respectively)

Louis and Hsu gave me the same physical acting moment in Kiseki that I loved in Old Fashioned Cupcake which is the body responding to something differently than the brain is, especially in something as physically demanding and choreographed as a kissing scene. All three of them did such phenomenal jobs in their respective scenes with Ai Di looking so fucking confused when Chen Yi kisses him, and actually kissing back for a split second before biting him, Fan Ze Rui kissing Bai Zhong Yi back while trying to push him away and then immediately giving up, and Nozue fully doing calculus in his head while still kissing Togawa back. I appreciate actors so much because I could never oh my god. 

Milk and View in 23.5 Degrees

I gotta get some ladies on here and who better than the loves of my life Milk and View. Milk I just want to commend how variable her performance is between 23.5 and Bad Buddy. I am so so here for all the rolling, flailing, fainting, screaming. She’s doing such an incredible job in what I am sure is a very physically taxing role. 

View going on the complete opposite end of the spectrum with a very stiff character with a very flat affect. I love everything about Aylin, and I especially love those little moments of emotion that do break through. The small smile Aylin gets, the crying breakdown she has on the basketball court, the delay before she too runs all gangly and awkward to the door to greet their friends. Stiffness feels like a hard thing to embody without it feeling like bad acting, because I think a lot of what I see of bad acting comes from people who are too stiff, for completely non-character related reasons. 

MOTHERFUCKING BARCODE TINNASIT IN DEAD FRIEND FOREVER

This kid. Was. SO. CREEPY. I am so proud of him! When I first saw Barcode on screen in this show, I thought they picked him for the role of Non because he was the sweet, baby-faced little boy you remember from KinnPorsche and thus would garner sympathy. But no. 

NOPE. 

I WAS WRONG. 

It is because BARCODE IS A FUCKING POWERHOUSE at 18 years old. The laughter, the smiles, the absolutely deranged behavior. The breakdowns. This kid. Holyyyyyyyyyy shit. 

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In truth there are so so so so so many moments, performances, actors that are just absolutely incredible and worthy of praise, and the nice thing is that even small moments can make huge impacts on me, on an audience as a whole. Sometimes it’s not just the physicality of the actors that really makes the performance, it’s the anatomy of the scene, it’s choreography, it’s lighting, it’s sound. The silence in Our Dining Table, Episode 8 when Yutaka reaches back for the briefest of moments. The editing of the masturbation scene in I Feel You Linger in the Air cutting between Jom’s hands on Yai’s back and Jom’s hands on his own body. Han Baram’s sad, sad little face and his sad sad little song and the way he and Im Han Tae cuddle even when they are platonic in Sing My Crush. Sam Lin + Alcohol in We Best Love. Like ugh there’s just so many beautiful physical moments out there. 

Additional Shout Outs: 

First Kanaphan, Mark Pakin, Fourth, Ohm, Singto: all of these boys are so impressive in their physical acting in so many ways. First as Yok and First as Akk was almost completely unrecognizable to me when I first saw them. First is an incredible physical actor, and I wish that GMMTV would actually let him maintain complex characteristics rather than turning him in to the weepy boy every time. But from a physical acting standpoint, he’s incredible. Mark Pakin truly is GMMTV’s six man: he was on The Warp Effect, Moonlight Chicken, and My School President which all aired at the same time, with him playing three very different characters. It was such a treat to see Fourth and Gemini back to back in MSP and MLC as well, but the happy bouncy puppy dog that was Gun compared to the jaded, angry young adult that was Li Ming was just marvelous to behold, I swear to god I saw a storm cloud pass over that kid’s brow at one point during MLC. Ohm because of course. Singto because that dude is able to convey so much by moving so little of his face, it’s truly astounding. 

James Supamakong in Bed Friend, Episode 4

This is honestly more from a vocal perspective but the way he fucking screamed and cried in both attempted rape scenes haunts me to this day. 

The cast of Ossan’s Love Returns, but especially all of the fight scenes between Hayashi Kento (Maki) and Yoshida Kotero (Kurosawa), they were so fun to watch, especially because they are supposed to present as such put together characters, and the sustained fight scene in Episode 6 was fucking hysterical. 

Non-BL mentions: 

Toby Stephens and his voice acting in Black Sails

Matthew McFayden and the hand flex in Pride and Prejudice 

Kalki Koechil and physically portraying cerebral palsy as an able bodied actress in Margarita With a Straw (you can check out my write up for my thoughts on the ethical component of that though)

The fencing scene from The Court Jester

I have never watched the movie, but Christopher Reeve’s Clark Kent to Superman transition

Sense8. All of it. 

I haven’t even seen it, but Orphan Black

What are some of yours?

[one-of-tankhuns-neurons]

What's the difference between a BL and a queer drama?

Easy!!

BL's has intentional focus on a love story between to males and it can vary in genre. It can go from typical romance soaps with cliché plotlines and sappy confessions, to intense thrillers and murder mysteries.

Queers drama may include romance but it isn't the main point. It highlights queer experiences and emotions such as family dynamics, coming out, life stories, forming bonds, etc. It also understands queer identity as more complex, which is why characters may diverge from the cis homosexual.

Now LISTEN TO ME... BL can show actual queer dynamics the same way a kdrama about a girl who falls in love with a rich CEO can slip on some important commentary on women experiences or even class disparity. One is nOt inherently better than the other. Calling something a BL doesn't make the way it talks about the importance of found family and building a support system not based on kin less valuable. Especially now that more queer people are getting involved in it. But we must remember BL has it's origins in fantasies (not necessarily sexual) so that's the way it's gonna lean. Yes people, history and tradition of literary and cinematic currents and genres IS important when defining it.

Here are some shows that are BL

2gether - University drama

Jack and Joker - crime

On Cloud Nine - supernatural

609 Bedtime story- sci-fi

'till the world ends - apocalyptic

This love doesn't have long beans- cooking

Bad Guy my Boss - CEO x secretary

Here are some shows that (according to me) are queer dramas

Shadow - supernatural mystery

180 longitude passes through us - family drama

Love in the big city - anthology (kinda?)

More than words - dealing with the norm

1626 - coming of age

Right time right you - drama

I understand that the lines may be blurred sometimes but it's mainly because people are using BL as a trampoline to get to a wider audience but in reality are not producing strictly BL stories.

The point in knowing the difference is just so that you know what you might or might not get with each one, and it's NOT THE QUALITY or the director.

180 degree longitude and 7 days before valentine were directed by the same person but one is BL and one is a Queer drama.

(I didn't include queer drama focusing on Trans, lesbian, asexual experiences bc the point here is to make a comparison and those are least likely to be compared)

You are allowed to disagree with me

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

[lurkingshan]

oh i saw you recommending dramas to another anon so i was wondering if you didn't mind dropping some recs for me as well! i was really hoping for some really angsty ones if you know any (the country doesn't matter!)

Greetings, fellow angst monster! I am happy to rec angsty dramas for you; I went through my highest rated to find some that I think are particularly excellent. Since you didn't give me any other parameters, this is a pretty varied list. Their only real commonality is they all scream ANGST of some kind. Hope some of them work for you!

180 Degree Longitude Passes Through Us (Thailand, Gaga)

Beyond Evil (S Korea, Viki)

Eternal Yesterday (Japan, Gaga)

Goblin (S Korea, Viki)

Flower of Evil (S Korea, Netflix)

I Feel You Linger in the Air (Thailand, Gaga)

Just Between Lovers (S Korea, Netflix or Viki)

It's Okay, That's Love (S Korea, Viki)

I Told Sunset About You/I Promised You the Moon (Thailand, Viki)

My Mister (S Korea, Netflix or Viki)

Someday or One Day (Taiwan, gray)

The Eighth Sense (S Korea, Viki)

The Miracle of Teddy Bear (Thailand, YouTube)

The Red Sleeve (S Korea, Viki)

Tokyo in April Is... (Japan, Gaga)