#14x08 spoilers

[florida3exclamationpoints]

BITCH DID SHE JUST SAY CLEVER BOY

[omgitskaii]

spn 14x08

IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL NHSELF CAS NOOO NO NO NO

[shelma32entertainment]

Doctor Who | 1X08 / 14X08 | Empire Of Death | COMMENTARY

[chlochette-sunde]

Speaking of 14x08.

This post contains spoilers. Don't read any further if you want to avoid them, contrary to me XD

So, the deal with the Empty.

It's my first time watching Supernatural but I already know that this deal leads to Castiel's death in 15x18. I knew that the trigger to this deal is a moment of happiness, that happened to be Castiel's confession of love to Dean. Destiel is canon.

I have also read that Misha had been warned about this arc and ending before shooting season 15.

I had expected the deal with the Empty to happen *during* season 15. I was really surprised to see it set in early season 14.

And it made me wonder... Were the scenarists preparing Destiel's arc as soon as 14x08?

In my very first post, I had stated that the whole crew must had known what they were doing from the start. That latest realisation tends to confirm my initial guess.

[nougat--nephilim]

LOOK AT HIS SQUISHY FACE

LOOK AT IT

SQUISHY BABY BOY

[lovespnfandom]

my baby😭❤️

[woulddieforgabriel]

Dean only taught Jack to drive in case he died. Jack isn't dying anymore. If he and Dean don't get into an argument over him driving again, I'm suing the writers.

[diminuel]

Empty!Dumah was so good...!! I think this was was a great episode with some amazing acting (I got teary-eyed at Kelly’s realization that Jack had died, that was so good). The Winchesters were great, Cas’ frequent smiling was great (we heard him laugh for the first time!), his sacrifice was great (and painful).

But damn. Empty!Dumah.

Amazing.

[freckles-and-wings]

What’s canon after this episode:

- cas is not currently happy

- ‘When you allow yourself to be happy’ implies that cas COULD potentially be happy this very moment but he’s keeping such source of happiness at arms length cause he doesn’t think he’s worth it

who knows what that source of happiness could be 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[destiel-honeypie]

Can we just talk about this? It's really just Jensen and Misha having a great time, because Dean (even if he's a bottom) don't subdue to Cas and that's basically what Jensen does, like that little going down with his head thing and looking up to him, just Jensen does that.

(I know that was a weak explanation, but they are out of character, you can't change my mind)

[thursdays-fallen-angel]

So if there are still claims hanging around that Michael isn’t this season’s Big Bad.... Is it going to be The Empty? 🤔

[florida3exclamationpoints]

Oh Ncuti Gatwa I love you so much thank you for your service

[missjackil]

My 14x08 Opinion

Byzanthium This one got me feeling some kinda way.... Lets start with Sam sitting bedside with Jack? Ughhh my heart!! Sam has sat bedside of people as they were dying, like Bobby and Claire, of course Dean, but you could see in his face and posture, this was a whole new feeling. A hint of anger came out for a second when Jack said “Tell him Im sorry” and Sam said “Tell him yourself!” but he got a grip and smiled softly “He’ll be right back” Jack couldnt have been any sweeter either. Of course this didnt help my heart any.  “Sam?” “Yeah?” “What happens next? For regular guys like me?” “I dont know” “Then this will be an adventure” Hear that?? Thats my heart shattering!! The amount of emotions Sam showed was heartbreakingly refreshing. No, we didnt get any sobbing, (on screen) but Ive resigned that he saves that for when Dean dies only, but my boy was definitely heart broken. His storming off had me worried. Sam doesnt always make the best decisions with a broken heart. I liked that Dean wanted to give him space... all the way up til Cas told him he left on his own. Then well... space be damned right? I loved that Dean instantly worried Sam made a deal.  I loved the scene with Sam angrily chopping the trees... it reminded me of Red Meat when Dean was taking it out on the trees also. Then he broke the axe head, he crumbled.... the self loathing came out once again that he cant even build his son a pyre. My boy was helpless and lost. Watch your step now, I havent gotten around to cleaning my heart up of the floor.  Now, the “Getting loaded for Jack” scene will go down in my mind as a classic iconic scene forever. Along with great scenes like Sams arms opening as hes about to jump into the pit in Swan Song, the Church scene in Sacrifice, “Sammy Close your eyes” in My Brothers Keeper, the Night Moves scene in Baby. I will always remember this episode by that scene. It was beautifully shot, The candy bars were nothing less than adorable, Sam having a genuine, dimple filled smile. All 3 of them laughing, having fun, drunk off their asses. Then Sam flips his glass and staggers off.... tapped out.  Now, how Sam didnt have a hangover the next morning, or how he came up with an idea how to bring Jack back after 5 whiskeys, shows my boy has some super powers I think LOL to bring Lily back was odd, but good. This showed me that even though they CAN bring people back from the dead, its still not an easy feat. They dont have a resurrection spell, or readily available demon to make a deal with, they didnt call on Billie. This is good. This will keep us wondering and worried about how they can bring each other back in the future. However, Lily coming back considerably shorter was weird... older, sure, I get it, but shorter? Anyway, I LOVED Sam angrily shouting “HE’S OUR KID!!!” at Lily. Its the first time Sam vocally acknowledged that he feels more for Jack than his friend or little brother. I know some of you think the whole “my 3 dads” thing is cheesey and too much like fanfic, but of everything they could have pulled out of fanfic. this one was pretty bold, and I think it works, and its beautiful. (Sure Id rather it just be Sam and Dean as daddies, but Ill accept the trio) The heaven scenes with Jack were good. Im glad he got time with Kelly. The heaven scenes with Cas and the angels was boring, and it seemed they didnt really know what to do with the Empty entity or what kind of deal Cas could make. So he makes a deal that seems as though he just cant let himself be happy. Not that big a deal, though it should upset the hellers eh? Since if he allows himself “to be happy with Dean” hes gonna get sucked into the Empty.  So we end with them “knowing where Michael is” which could kill my “hiding in Dean” theory, but I still have that in my pocket because 

Naomi said she had a general idea, so they dont know exactly

Dean still had those mysterious dizzy spells

Jensen said we will see Michael!Dean again at the 300th party

Jared said Sam will confront Michael

Trailers can be very missleading

Im looking forward to the mid season finale next week. One thing I will definitely say in favor of the post Kripke era, is the cliff hangers for the mid season are always good, even if the episode sucked, they always leave us on a cliff hanger that makes us stressed out and speculating for the whole hiatus. Kripke didnt do that so much, we had s1 “Oh dad is on the phone” S2 “Dean has a secret about Sam” S3 Very Supernatural Christmas and no cliff hanger. s4 Angels are gonna fight Demons (zzzzz) S5 Ellen and Jo died, and Lucifer cant be killed. Great episode, but not actually a cliff hanger. Where as even though S12 Lotus sucked, it was a great cliffy to have the boys carted off to Fed Prison. And last years being trapped in the Bad Place with a “dinosaur” or going back to Sam getting his soul back, or how dead is Bobby? You get the picture.

So needless to say I really loved this episode. A couple minor issues that wont really matter in the long run. So on a scale of Bloodlines to Who We Are Im gonna give this one a strong 9. Well done everyone... well done..

[taskmastersource]

this was shot like something out of a horror movie

[ineffableuser]

NONONO YK WHAT?

I DON’T ACCEPT THIS

NOPE

NOT TRUE

CAUSE YK WHAT THIS IS? THIS IS JUST A PRETENTIOUS BURY-OUR-GAYS

BURY-OUR-GAYS-IN-THE-EXACT-FUCKING-MOMENT-IT’S-OFFICIALLY-SHOWN-THEY’RE-GAY-AND-ALSO-BECAUSE-OF-IT

SO FUCK IT

FUCK THIS

FUCK THE CW

FUCK EVERYTHING

EXCEPT FOR FAN CONTENT

[deansawthetvglow]

and then, when you finally give yourself permission to be happy and let the sun shine on your face, that's when I'll come.