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stenka-razin · 2 years ago
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I finally watched Star Wars 9 (aka Star Wars 8) and Star Wars 11 (aka Star Wars 9) along with a rewatch of Star Wars 7 (aka Star Wars 7). They're all bad!
The Force Awakens - I feel like this got by because people assumed it would resolve and pay off and you know, be a movie. It didn't and unfortunately the failures of 8 and 9 directly affect 7 because it leaned so heavy on future installments. It basically balled out on a credit card and episode 9 was the bill. But despite that I do think it's the closest to telling a coherent story in its own right. It's a story called Star Wars 1977 aka A New Hope, but whatever. It's also weird in that it like, double dips. It mocks this series adherence to the past while whole heartedly leaning into that earnestly. At it's best it's like Canonized Spaceballs, at it's worst it's reheated leftovers. But yeah, as soon as they drop that cryptic vision and "a story for another time" crap I know this was gonna blow. It's the guy who made fucking LOST. When will people learn!?
The Last Jedi - Guys this is dumb. Dumb as hell. Dumber than most Star Wars. Even the good ideas it flirts with are rudimentary. But they also botch half the story. Like the entire plot about the escape from whatever could have been solved with a single five minute conversation, and there's really no consequences. Like Holdo looks like an idiot for not briefing her crew... Poe Finn n' Rose look like idiots for botching a mutiny and getting thousands killed. It's so dumb.
Luke kills kids now... guess it's genetic. Like I think there's a small seed of a good idea in here. That Luke, once an anomaly amongst the Jedi, who saw good in a man everyone else thought was irredeemable, is now stodgy and conservative, a natural process that often comes when people are in power for a long time. That's a good idea. But for the first story with the character in years (I don't give a fuck about some stupid book) and we immediately jump to, "I tried to kill a kid cuz his rancid vibes" is bad! Bad writing!
Rise of the Skywalker - Everyone basically went in know this was gonna suck right? Like it had to wrap up a bunch of crap that no one had any plans for. Then it also had to deal with the fact that the Last Jedi kind of dismantled all that crap for a bunch of other crap know one had any ideas for. Like I know JJ and Kennedy are portrayed as villains for cutting down Johnson's vision, but I call bullshit on him having any ideas for a third movie either.
And in spite of that, it introduces a bunch of other stupid crap, too. Yeah this is Episode 2 levels of bad. I totally checked out. I had no idea what anyone was trying to do beyond shoot people. Babu Frik and D-0 were delightful though. Give those two a movie. Oh and it seems like each of these leans heavily on one old guy to breath life into the movie. Anthony Daniels, you may have been the best part of this?
Oh yeah the cast, like in general. They're mostly good, but also like. They don't properly hang out together until Rise of Skyguy and I just find it so odd that the filmmakers decide, oh yeah, they all hate each other? Like even Finn/Poe who were all like Buddy-this Buddy-that, now they're total dicks to each other. I also love that they one up Jedi butchering a love triangle, by introducing like six* potential couplings and all of them fizzling out. Like that's bad but it's even more confusing that they introduce more to fumble in the final installment.
Anyway, in summation. It sucked, and anything good about the first entry was a time bomb destined to suck because no one knew what the hell they wanted to do with any of this. Except make money. They knew that and did. Star Wars sucksssss
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alienfailboy · 8 months ago
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please remember that luke skywalker adopted rey and fin a few years after marrying din djarin and and opening his jedi school on mandalor with their green rat son.
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detweilerboy · 14 days ago
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Dunno still about Finn. The innocent farm boy gaining powers used to be the go to male fantasy but masculinity has lost its innocence for multiple reasons. The new male hero clearly is an underdog who has the world against him since birth and is still trying to be good or struggling with it despite his circumstances. Finn is a symbol of the shift in paradigm and the limits of that change. The male power fantasy started to get questioned the minute marginalized men couldve been accepted as mainstream heroes (id argue there were more progressive depictions in the 90s etc than 2010s)
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poebrey · 1 year ago
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me watching The Acolyte after suffering through the absolute fucking mess that was Kylo’s character and TLJ/TROS:
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nevesmose · 1 year ago
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I have to change the tense of a story when it's about 90% done. Aggrieved Waluigi noises.
As it is now it's just a bit blah and presenting it differently will a) give me a chance to try something new and b) hopefully tie in better with the kind of atmosphere/literary milieu I'm trying to evoke. And c) still let me pull off the twist ending I'm feeling smug about.
Third person past ➡️ first person present it is then!
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retrob0t · 2 years ago
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i just want star wars YA book about Rey.. give me a cute little story of her life on Jakku!!! her fixing up the falcon for Unkar Plutt and getting into shenanigans!!! UGH or even just a normal book in between tlj & tros or... even post tros???!!!! I know we probably won't get much Rey related stuff until her movie is out (or maybe they'll bring back the Journey to Series, that was fun!!!) but I desperately want books focused on the sequel cast. The post rotj era books have been SOO GOOD and if i could just get some more breadcrumbs of these little dorks, then i'd be SO happy
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mamawasatesttube · 5 months ago
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can you imagine talking about anything else the way comic-fanon fans talk about comics?
"the beatles are my favorite band! oh no i don't listen to their music i just look at the album covers and imagine what it sounds like lol."
"star trek fandom is so fun like there's so many series and episodes and reboots that you can just say anything and it probably happened in one of them anyways. and if it didn't, who cares! theres no point in trying to figure out what happened in canon anyway!"
"i love how 90% of doctor who fans all agree that you can do whatever companion with whatever doctor and its pretty much canon because the show is so wild. like, we all just have fun and then some guy shows up and tells you um, 'that actually is directly contradicted by the basic setup of the show?', and then they get offended when you tell them to go away!! LOL!"
"star wars is just too complicated for people to understand - like, are you supposed to start at movie 1 or movie 4? - so you really can't blame anyone for not even trying before they start posting in the star wars tag. anyway here's why i think finn is an angry black man and kylo ren is better for rey"
eta: have been informed this is the star wars experience already. im so fucking sorry yall have to bear this curse too
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floatinglonewanderer · 1 month ago
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Im so glad it's not just me cuz wtf
anyone else noticed how the names in star wars get less star wars-y and more basic western
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the-most-humble-blog · 1 month ago
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🧠 STAR WARS HOT TAKE — THE MONSTER SHE BECAME A Blacksite Literature™ Transmission (Because sometimes the chosen one burns the temple down.)
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You want to know what would've saved Star Wars?
Rey turning into a Sith. No redemption. No apology. No narrative backflip to avoid bruising her image. Just evil. Cold. Inevitable. Tragic.
She didn’t get there because she was weak — she got there because the darkness made more sense.
Let me put it in the bluntest terms I can: She should’ve become the fucking monster. Not Kylo. Not some grey-area anti-hero. Not a conflicted girl with a lightsaber fetish. A monster. Just like her grandpapi.
But no. Instead, we got the most sterilized, agenda-drenched narrative in sci-fi history. A trilogy so frightened of letting a woman be flawed, powerful, and damned that it neutered its own potential. You want to know why that upcoming Rey trilogy will be DOA? Because they already wasted the only ending that could’ve saved her arc:
Her fall.
Not a stumble. Not a moment of “oops, dark side temptations.” I mean a complete possession. A willing descent. A new Empress. Palpatine 2.0 — but better.
Back in the day, we told stories to scar the soul in a good way. Greek tragedy. Shakespearean collapse. Anakin’s scream. > “I HATE YOU!” Burning, legless, crying in the ash of everything he once was. That wasn’t just cinema. That was myth.
And you know what made it powerful? It wasn’t safe.
Now? Disney thinks danger is offensive. That tragedy is too problematic. That every female protagonist must somehow double as a PR mascot for a toothpaste commercial.
The Force is female? Cool. Then let her fall. Let her fail. Let her choose evil, like any other real character might when backed into a moral corner and seduced by the very blood running through her veins.
But no. Rey had to stay pure. She had to redeem him. Because her ovaries wrote the script, apparently.
Let me ask you: If the dark side can’t take anyone… Then what is it? A glorified emo phase?
Seriously. If you have to already be broody, edgy, or half-insane to fall to the dark side, then the dark side is neutered. Defanged. Just an aesthetic.
But what if it wasn’t? What if the dark side could seduce anyone? Even the girl who smiled. Who loved. Who gave a damn. What if it made sense for her? What if it gave her power that felt natural — like breathing?
Here’s the thing they never dared write:
Rey has every reason to fall.
She’s a nobody. Her parents abandoned her. She was manipulated, hunted, deceived, isolated. Her identity stolen, retconned, and twisted — first by lineage, then by narrative.
And when she finally learns she’s a Palpatine?
They should’ve made it hurt.
Not a five-minute lightsaber therapy session followed by “I choose the light, teehee.”
No.
Let it destroy her.
Let the name Palpatine sink in like venom. Let it pull her apart. And then?
Let her put herself back together — not as Rey the Jedi… …but as Rey the Sith.
Let her accept it. Let her say, out loud, “I am what I am.” Let her choose it.
> “You wanted balance? I’ll give you symmetry. > You got your Skywalker that fell to darkness — now you’ll get a Palpatine that never climbs out.”
Imagine the scene: Finn, standing across from her. Lightsaber drawn. She’s wearing black. Her eyes like twin eclipses. No hate. Just serenity. The kind of calm that only a godless tyrant can possess.
And he begs her: > “Come back.”
But she laughs. Like it’s a joke. Because to her, there’s no coming back from truth.
> “You still don’t get it, do you?” > “There was nothing to come back to.”
And that’s when he realizes: She’s gone. Not possessed. Not confused. Gone.
She isn’t drowning in the dark.
She’s breathing in it.
You want to know what would’ve shaken Hollywood? A love story inverted into a execution.
Finn trains. Finn ascends. Finn becomes Jedi not because of fate, prophecy, or birthright — But because he has to kill the woman he loves. Because she became something worse than even Palpatine dreamed of.
And when the moment comes — She screams in rage as he drives his saber through her heart. Not in fear. Not in regret.
> In hatred. > Like Anakin. > “I HATE YOU!” > “I WOULD’VE KILLED THE GALAXY FOR YOU AND YOU CHOSE THEM.”
Her last words are not a redemption arc. They’re a final, unrepentant, curse.
And Finn? Finn whispers: > “I loved you anyway.”
That’s cinema. That’s fucking Star Wars.
But no. We got a PowerPoint deck on empowerment. We got “I’m all the Jedi” and hugs and Skywalker cosplay. We got the girlboss ending that no one asked for — And everyone forgot the monster she was born to be.
Disney was so afraid of letting a woman be evil that they stripped her of being interesting.
Newsflash: Flawed female characters are compelling. Villainous women are iconic. Tragedy is beautiful.
> You want to put butts in seats for that next Rey trilogy? > Have the balls to make her the villain.
Start the first scene with the galaxy on fire. The Jedi temples smoldering. Children missing. Acolytes chanting her name.
Not Empress Rey. Not Supreme Leader Rey.
No. Just Rey. One name. One legend. A goddess of wrath forged from legacy and betrayal. The shadow that even Palpatine never cast.
And Finn? He’s the myth now. The one who loved a monster and still raised a generation of incorruptible Jedi. Not because he was chosen. But because he had to end her.
Because she never came back.
Because she didn’t want to.
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ofstarsandvibranium · 2 months ago
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How to Woo Someone
Fandom: Star Wars
Pairing: Poe Dameron x F!Reader
prompt #1464
“Do you have any tips on how to woo someone?”
“You’re trying to woo someone?”
“Why do you have to say it like that?” from @writers-are-writers
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After the fall of The First Order, Poe thought life would be a little easier. But nothing ever came easy to Poe. Well, nothing except flying. Everything else was a bit of a struggle.
Rebuilding the galaxy after everything, was no walk in the park. As a general of the Resistance, Poe, as well as Finn and Rey, worked to make sure the galaxy found its peace again.
In the process, he made a lot more friends, a few enemies, but, most importantly, he met you.
You were basically in charge of your small village in Batuu. Poe and a few others had stopped on the planet to refuel and rest. You met him at the market, noticing the Resistance symbol on his satchel. You two got to talking and you brought him and his friends back to your village.
It was some distance from the Black Spire Outpost.
Your village was previously pillaged through by some First Order troops. You asked for Poe's help and he gave it to you.
What was supposed to be a short stop on an Outer Rim planet ended up being a two month's stay. For Poe, at least. He wanted to personally see to it that you and your village got the help you needed, while he let his friends continue their journey.
Poe helped lay more of a foundation again in your village. You already set up the blueprints, he just helped you carry out the plans.
"We make a great team. Honestly, I could use someone like you with the Resistance."
You snort, "Are you offering me a job?" you nudge him with your shoulder and a smirk on your lips.
"If you want it, yeah. Like I said, we need more people like you. People who are still willing to help others," he sighs and looks away from you, instead, looking out on a group of villagers helping build a new set of homes, "A lot of people lost hope and peace when the First Order took over. I want to restore that to them again."
You slowly nod, "I'd love to help, but I need to talk with my council."
"Of course. I'm here for a few more days so you have time," he places a reassuring hand on your shoulder and then goes to join the group of builders.
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While also helping you rebuild your village, Poe became acquainted with several members of your council. One of them being your cousin who was around the same age as Poe.
As he was helping the builders, Poe pauses to watch you interact with some of the village children.
Your cousin, Sendril, slaps him on the chest, "You okay?"
"Huh? Oh, um, ye-yeah," he struggles to pull his eyes away from you as you laugh at something one of the children say. Then Poe asks Sendril, “Do you have any tips on how to woo someone?”
Sendril cocks a brow and asks back, “You’re trying to woo someone?”
Poe's face scrunches up in confusion, “Why do you have to say it like that?”
Sendril shrugs, "I don't know, you just seem so...serious all the time. Didn't think you'd wanna woo anyone." He continues to place bricks to build a wall of a home.
Poe sighs and joins him, "Well, wooing anyone was the last thing on my mind, but..." he pauses and looks back at you, again. His attention is brough back when Sendril snorts, "Good luck."
"Has Y/N ever been with anyone?" Poe asks as he smears concrete and then places a brick down.
"Once, didn't go well. They left her to go explore the galaxy with someone else. She was heartbroken, never saw or heard of her being with anyone else since."
Poe hums, "Would she be interested?"
"In you?" Sendril asks, looking at Poe. When Poe nods, Sendril scrunches up his nose, "Honestly, I'm not sure. Considering you don't plan on being here for much longer, probably not."
"I asked her if she'd want to come with me, help people rebuild around the galaxy."
"What'd she say?"
"She has to talk to the council. Do you think they'd let her go?"
Sendril hums, "It's likely. Y/N is a great leader and has helped us keep our heads above water since the First Order pillaged us, but we're stronger now. We can continue without her." He stands up and crosses his arms over his chest. Sendril may be around the same age as Poe but he's taller and stronger. He casts an intimidating shadow over Poe as he asks, "And are you going to treat her right?"
"If she allows something to happen between us, then yes. While I've only been here for a short time, I already know Y/N to be a strong, caring, and wise person. I admire how well she's led you all through these tough times. She's also funny and beautiful and kind-"
Sendril rolls his eyes and interrupts him, "Alright, I get it. You're smitten for my cousin. I'll give you my blessing since I'm the only family she has left, however, hurt her-"
"And you'll lay me in the ground, I got it."
Your cousin snorts, "No. She'd do that to you, herself. But I'd help bury your body."
"...Thanks, Dril."
"You're welcome, Poe!"
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You told Poe you’d be seeing the council that morning to discuss your potential leave.
Outside of the building, Poe couldn’t help but pace back and forth. He understands if the council would prefer for you to stay since the village is still in the process of rebuilding. However, Poe really thinks you could do a lot of good around other parts of the galaxy as well. So he hopes the council sees it too.
It was thirty minutes of deliberation before you stepped out.
“Well?”
You smile at him, “When do we leave?”
Poe immediately pulls you into a hug a swings you around, “You’re going to do amazing things out there, Y/N. I just know it.”
You giggle in his embrace, “Thanks, Poe,” you say as you pull away.
You two stare at each other in silence. Poe’s eyes are soft as he looks back at you and then glances at your lips.
He slowly leans in towards you, giving you time to pull away. But you don’t, so when his lips touch yours, he pulls you closer.
You kiss him back with intensity, the secret feelings you’ve kept buried inside you for the past two months. Those feelings and thoughts of Poe spilling out as you kiss him back.
“So this is how you woo her?”
You both pull away to see Sendril leaning against the council building with a smirk.
You clear your throat and ask, “Woo who?”
Poe sighs and shakes his, “Ignore him.”
Sendril laughs, “Just don’t forget to invite me to the wedding,” he shoots a wink at you and carries on his with his day.
Poe clears his throat, “So, um, should probably start packing. Got the whole galaxy to see.”
You smile brightly at him, “Right.”
You step aside and begin to walk to your home, but then you turn around, “For the record, I do still expect you to woo me, Dameron.”
He laughs, “Don’t worry. I plan too,” he smirks your way before you turn back to head home.
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creatingblackcharacters · 18 hours ago
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Thee's something I've noticed in certain fandoms where a fan will be racist towards Black actors... and then turn around and say "damn the writers are racist jerks!" to try and get brownie points. Jenny Nicholson comes to mind with how she constantly sent John Boyega hatred and called him a misogynist for making JOKES about Rey and Finn sleeping together despite loving Reylo smut.
She never apologized for this, and the most she's said that sort of resembles an apology or admission of guilt for her racism is "i feel scared looking at him" and I'm like... if looking at him reminds you of the horrifying hate campaign you started against him, try apologizing?
That's that racism for you 👍🏾 I'm currently trying to get a racist to come outside and stand on her racism as we speak 👀. A lot of these people don't see the Black folk they mistreat as human, so when the reality comes that they might have to own up and look someone real in the face with the shit they said/did, it's "scary". You weren't scared when you were being racist 👀 you weren't worried about the fear you caused in the people you were harassing 👀 so why are you so scared of the consequences 👀 They'd rather die feeling like they're a "good person" than they would actually BEING a good person by apologizing.
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trashnotfound · 4 months ago
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Shoot me, but these 2 had way more tension and chemistry then Kylo and Rey ever did! So much so they had to separate them for an entire movie…
The hugs!!!!
THE LONGING LOOKS!?!?
2 outcast coming together and fighting for a better life with eachother.
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kate's 365 days of ships:
day 58: finn & rey star wars
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neenarchive · 11 days ago
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having been invested in star wars when the sequel trilogy was coming out, them not having a plan is hilarious if not kind of sad in hindsight. the theories. the analysis. we were all so sure of what would happen, of what they were foreshadowing with each scene. WHO is finn really? rey is a skywalker. no rey is a kenobi. no rey is a nobody. WHO is snoke really? WHERE has luke been? characters will go through sensical character arcs. kylo ren will earn his cunty little theme song by actually being an effective villain with agency just you watch guys. no kylo ren will be redeemed in a narratively satisfying way. no kylo ren will die of consumption like a little victorian street urchin. don't worry about it guys they haven't forgotten about finn; it's all building to something. oh boy oh man no way will palpatine somehow return that's ridiculous. we were fighting in our own star wars about it. but they didn't know chat. the worst fan theory you could possibly think of has a more coherent plot than what the studio had in mind (nothing babes). billions of dollars in movie ticket sales and they didn't have an agreed upon story. please buy new colour lightsaber at your nearest disney store. share prices are built on hope.
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saphronethaleph · 3 months ago
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New Media Jedi Order
“Okay,” Rey said. “I don’t know if you can use the Force, yet. Not really. It’s… not something where I had a lot of training myself. But…”
She shook her head. “Okay, I’m already not expressing this right. But the way the Force works, it’s… a mystical energy field, that fills the whole universe. And that might mean that everyone can use it. Or it might mean that it’s just easier for some people, and harder for others. But the most important part of it all is that… the Force is there. It’s real. It binds the universe together, and once you start to understand that… that’s when you can start to understand the rest.”
The words hung in the air, and Rey held out her hand. Her staff rippled slightly, then rose, and she pulled it over to her as she stepped back.
“The Force connects us all,” she said. “Every living being, and it flows through everything that isn’t alive, as well. And it means that every living being in the universe is unique, and important, and special… which is where the first part of the problem can come in. The Dark Side. And that’s why I want to make sure I make this completely clear – because everyone is special. Which means you’re special. But that means that everyone else is special as well.”
She exhaled. “That’s… important. Something you have to remember. Because if you forget the second part, then you’re fundamentally wrong, and that never ends well – for you, or for anyone else.”
After a pause, to impress the gravity of her point, Rey took a deep breath, and let it out.
“So… there’s a number of ways to get a closer and stronger connection to the Force,” she said. “But one of them is that it’s about… knowing things you couldn’t otherwise know, and touching things you couldn’t otherwise touch. If you’re wearing a blindfold, but you can still see. If you’re light years apart, but you can still feel. If you’re the other side of the room, but you can still move.”
She closed her eyes.
“If it hasn’t happened yet, but you can still know. The Force is… transcendent. It connects everything, but everything is larger than one person – it’s larger than everyone – so it’s not possible for an individual person to channel the whole of the Force. But they can touch it, shape it, influence it, and with it… impossible things can be done.”
Hux stabbed the pause button, scowling at the screen, then looked up at the intelligence officer.
“What kind of nonsense is this?”
“We caught it on the HoloNet twenty minutes ago, sir,” the intelligence officer replied. “It had been up for forty minutes before that, and it’s already gone dramatically viral. At this point I’d say about one point two percent of the entire userbase of SpaceTube has clicked the link.”
Hux glared back down at the screen, then caught sight of the view count – and the subscriber count.
And the account name.
“How did the scavenger girl get access to such a popular SpaceTube account?” he asked. “And why is it called Singular Smuggler?”
“Just a guess, sir,” the intelligence officer offered, intelligently. “But I’d guess it’s because it’s Han Solo’s old account? And she does work with his wookiee.”
Hux gave him a baleful look, a muscle twitching in his cheek.
“Well, how bad is it, then?” he asked. “This is obviously a blow for the First Order’s public relations, especially after that nonsense with the broadcast last week where they called for the galaxy to rise up – and the fact we’ve lost Starkiller Base and the Supreme Leader, thanks to-”
He bit off the words.
He wasn’t going to blame the new Supreme Leader for their misfortunes out loud, no matter how much he detested the man.
“It’s bad, but how bad it is depends on what she says in the whole video,” the intelligence officer pointed out. “I haven’t had time to watch it, it’s three hours long.”
Hux muttered something about incompetents, then flicked down to look at the contents list.
He blanched.
“...section two is labelled ‘examples with Finn’,” he said. “Isn’t that the Traitor?”
“That sounds likely, sir,” the intelligence officer frowned. “Why?”
“Block the video immediately,” Hux said. “Across the whole of the First Order. We cannot permit their propaganda to spread to the Stormtroopers.”
The intelligence officer hurried to his desk, ready to issue the order, but before he actually got there the door to the command room crashed open – several inches of durasteel crumpling like tinfoil.
“Huh,” said the stormtrooper standing behind where the door used to be, and examined her gauntleted hands as she flexed them. “Looks like that bit works.”
“...well, kriff,” Hux muttered.
At least there was one bit of good news that he took vicious pleasure in.
Supreme Leader Kylo Ren was going to hate this even more than he did.
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dalekofchaos · 22 days ago
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The Sequel Trilogy's lack of politics and why it ultimately hurt the trilogy
I think the real reason why I don't like the Sequel Trilogy is that it has nothing to do with what legacy character was done dirty, wasted potential or just nostalgia porn.
Why I really don't like the Sequels it says nothing and is just Disney corporate churned bullshit
With the Original Trilogy, it was Lucas radicalized against Nixon/Watergate, and the Vietnam War
The Prequel Trilogy. The Bush Administration, Iraq War, Patriot Act and "The War on Terror"
The Sequels had the perfect politically charged trilogy handed to them on a silver fucking platter and all they did was rewrite the beats of the Original Trilogy and ignore the very clear fucking evil going on in the world.
You can argue that JJ Abrams wanted it to be about the Neo-Nazis in Argentina and the Rebels being forced to reunite against them after all this time until the cows come home all you want, that theme ultimately fell flat as time went on.
You didn't need the Dark Side. You didn't need Palpatine. You needed a bunch of pathetic men who longed for the "good old days" of Imperial rule that never fucking was and being indoctrinated and radicalized by a cult of personality. The horrors of fascism and someone so weak twisting the minds of foolish and weak men is more scary than the dark side could ever hope to be and instead, they chose to rip off the Empire vs Rebels and brought Palpatine back...
See also this video.
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The closest they came to a politically charged message in the Sequels was Finn and the Stormtroopers probable Rebellion, but they never pulled the trigger and acted like Finn's defection never mattered and continuously treated the Stormtroopers like disposable cannon fodder.
Hell, you can argue Rose, Paige and being victims of war was a close political message that wanted to fucking say something, but once again that was discarded. We didn't even see Rose and Paige's sisterly bond or get a single word out of Paige's mouth. The fact that they cared more about space horses and not freeing the slaves of Canto Bight says a lot about Disney's priorities.
I would've even tolerated all the bullshit lack of politics in the Sequels if they delivered on Queer Resistance aka Finnpoe but of course we can't even have that.
The message they delivered with Rey was ALMOST good. That anyone can be important and rise up and become a Jedi, but then they just HAD to ruin it by making her a Palpaskywalker.
And The First Order. Snoke being Palpatine's Clone ruined any credibility. Kylo Ren being redeemable killed any ounce of credibility of The First Order. You could've ran with the Neo-Nazi theme with Hux as the main villain, but of fucking course they pulled the "I'm a spy" bullshit. and of course they just HAD TO bring back Palpatine because JJ Abrams doesn't have a creative cell in his entire brain.
Snoke should have been based off of Trump. He did not need to be a Sith Clone and Palpatine sure as fuck didn't need to be brought back just so Rey can defeat him. Kylo Ren should've been EVERY isolated white man who has been radicalized by Trump and embraces the ideal version he saw in Vader that never was(also he doesn't get redeemed, if he's to be redeemed it's because he realizes he's a terrible person and helps the heroes end the regime and faces consequences, not "oh he's good now because of love and dies suddenly" you don't redeem and romanticize fascism) Hux should've been a precursor for Musk. Related to high ranking Nazi and son to a monster. "Intelligent" highly good with technology but is an ineffectual idiot and everyone mocks him.(I know at the time he wasn't as big, but we all saw through his bullshit) Phasma should've been every conservative woman radicalized by this bullshit.
Or alternatively. It didn't need to be an evil Empire. It's an ally that the New Republic helped create. Victims of the Empire almost wiped out by the Empire. Lets say The Ghormans or the Bothans. They became the monsters they despised. They became a terrorist state and the New Republic is out there in the senate and doing their PR. "They have a right to defend themselves" They are religious zealots, like the Jedi on crack. They believe the system they are trying to conquer is theirs by birthright. And the perceived enemies, ARE the rebels and our "heroes" are fighting the Rebels and it's only near the second half of the trilogy where they open their eyes
I do hope Andor inspired the Rey trilogy to be more political, be bold to take risks and have an actual spine, but I'm not holding my breath.
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better-call-mau1 · 2 years ago
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Yeah…it’s a pattern that I’m hoping is broken with Sabezra (and it’s a real hope since apparently Dave said something about wanting to give his characters happy endings after all their suffering), but that said…
…I’ve prepared myself for the worst. 😖
Y’all are wanting Sabine + Ezra to be a thing. I mean don’t get me wrong, I do too, but what happens to Star Wars couples?
Kanan and Hera?
Padmé and Anakin?
Rey and Kylo?
Obi-wan and Satine?
TRAGEDY
TRAGEDY
TRAGEDY!
Kanan died,
Padmé died,
Kylo died,
Satine died.
Do We ReAlLy WaNt ThIs!?
(And yes I know there are more people but these people came to mind first.)
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