#* INTERACTIONS WITH \ JIN GUANGYAO.
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While I think the moment in cql where Meng Yao– still bleeding from a stab wound in his chest btw– realizes Lan Xichen is in danger and decides to save the man who was so kind to him in cloud recesses is cute and all, nothing will ever beat the book for me. Little bookkeeper civilian Meng Yao, who has not had a serious chance to make his dreams of being a cultivator come true in fucking years, out of nowhere gets the fucking sect leader of Gusu Lan dropped right in his lap?
It's such a great example of Meng Yao's multilayered motivations to me. Because is civilian Meng Yao thinking of all the ways he can use this? Of the fact that having a great sect leader in his debt is the best thing that could happen to him? Duh. Obviously.
Is he very purposeful about appearing to Lan Xichen as a kind young man full of untapped potential, brave and willing to put his life on the line even though he really doesn't know so much about about cultivators, no sir, except a little he picked up here and there, because you see his father– 👉👈 Of course he is!
But the way through which he does that is... by actually saving Lan Xichen's life, at no doubt significant personal risk. The way he makes Lan Xichen believe he's kind and selfless is by... being kind and selfless. Just because he's doing it on purpose doesn't mean he's not doing it.
Is it lying if you want people to think you're nice and so you're nice to them? Isn't that just called being nice? Yes, he is very purposeful about how he appears to people, and very carefully crafts an image based on what he wants them to think of him, but most of the time he does that simply by... actually being the kind of person he wants to appear as. He still did the kind things he did, regardless of his motivations for doing them.
#mdzs#mdzs meta#meng yao#jin guangyao#lan xichen#rs: i wish it could've been you#I think for a guy like nmj the reason this 'fakeness' is scary is because it makes him unpredictable#meng yao COULD be nice to you because he wants you to think well of him and the best way to do that is simply being nice.#OR he could be planning to kill you later. you have no way of knowing which one it is.#but like... the existence of the latter– while obviously very troubling!– doesn't really make the former manipulation in and of itself#but both people in universe and the fandom frustratingly often take it as such#'i want this person to like me so i'm gonna be nice to them' <- this is not manipulation. this is just interacting with people.#anyway this dual motivation probably also applies to show meng yao. who is scrambling to find something else now that he's been banished.#but the reason the novel grips me so much is little civilian a-yao doesn't even *know* lan xichen yet.#it's the journey of this at first being very inpersonal- both as an opportunity and as a heroic act#(the impression he's giving being that he saved a stranger because he's just that kind of person 😇)#and over the course of their time spent hiding together becomes... very very personal.#meng yao coming in with a very general plan that he could charm any kind of person with and slowly adjusting it to fit lxc#but how is that so different from just... getting to know a person and realizing what kind of relationship you want to have with them?#I also just think it's cute to have a-yao get bonked over the head with the realization that this guy is so fucking NICE what the FUCK?#no way he's this lucky. good shit doesn't *happen* to him where's the catch with this guy??? hello???#lucky of course both on a personal level and for his practical goals. i loveeee both sides of a-yao's brain screaming in tandem
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my vice general and me: a tragedy in two acts
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#chifeng-zun this is not a failure of your vice general. this is your failure#for failing to provide suitable enrichment activities for your vice general#and choosing not to chaperone interactions between him and your criminally incompetent captain#if you don't want your vice general to murder your captain#you've got to make sure that they aren't loose in the same space while you're busy somewhere else#this is just basic vice general husbandry 101 and i'm really disappointed in you right now#(this is a bit please just enjoy it for what it is)#mdzs shitposting#nie mingjue#jin guangyao#meng yao#he did crimes??? good for him 😌
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thinking about teenaged Huaisang teasing Meng Yao about his crush on Xichen while Meng Yao helps him with his hair and blushes demurely like a Jane Austen heroine
#xiyao#lan xichen#meng yao#jin guangyao#nie huaisang#the untamed#chen qing ling#cql#no coherent thoughts just vibes and feels#about Meng Yao and Huaisang's relationship before everything went to shit#and how cute and soft and brotherly they must've been#I wish we got to see them interacting more in the show
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#oh hey this one is my header I guess!#sweet precious perfect JGY reaching out for hapless baby Minshan#absurdly romantic#I assume this is after Zixun bullied him since it seems to be the same area and it follows that flashback pretty closely#and that's when this interaction happens in the novel (and CQL)#so it's JGY to the rescue again!#why does someone always need to be coming to the rescue?#it's almost like outside forces won't stop making things difficult for our poor precious babies#su she#jin guangyao#suyao#literally canon#how is this not a romantic recollection i mean...
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#moi#jgy tag#jin guangyao#mdzs#mdzs talk#poll#what ‘like’ and ‘dislike’ mean is up to you#i’m imagining like…if you go out of your way to interact with them that counts as liking them#e.g. starting a conversation with ‘can i pet your dog?’ or going to a party but hanging out with the cat the whole time#if a neighbor is walking their dog and you stop to chat and the dog comes up to you#so you give it a little scritch or a pat#i might call that neutral#if you wouldn’t have interacted with the dog otherwise#basically i think it’s like this:#if you seek THEM out you like them#if they seek YOU out that’s more neutral#if you actively AVOID them that’s dislike#i have suspicions on the way this will go
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Sorry about your laptop 😭 again 😭
Ok for the ask game! Suyao’s first meeting, since it’s only referenced in the text and we don’t get to see it 👀
As Su Minshan was leaving the night hunt, he couldn't help but feel bitter and resentful. Even though he himself had performed quite decently compared to other participants, only a couple of his disciples had managed to score a kill at all, bringing the sect's total down to truly abysmal numbers. And he couldn't even blame them for that; as the founder of a minor sect with no name in the cultivation world he had no promising young talents banging on his doors begging to be let in, and the handful of boys and girls he'd picked from various little towns around Moling during the war couldn't possibly compare to the disciples of well-established sects with years of training under their belts.
It was with these thoughts weighing heavily on his mind that he ran into someone. The man was dressed in a plain Jin disciple uniform, with only the vermillion dot on his brow vaguely marking him as someone of importance, and currently in the middle of arranging clean up.
As Su Minshan mumbled an apology, still preoccupied with his own thoughts, the man's placid smile turned a touch warmer.
"No need to feel bad about your disciples' showing, Sect Leader Su," he said encouragingly. "Quite a few of them showed a lot of potential tonight, with a few more years' training they'll surely become fine cultivators rivaling those of the four great sects. Sect Leader Su has quite an eye for talent."
Su Minshan blinked and bowed to the stranger, thanking him for the kind words, and it was only after the man bowed in return and left, followed by a group of Jin servants, that it finally hit him.
The venerable Lianfang-zun of the Jin sect, the war hero Jin Guangyao who had single-handedly slain Wen Ruohan, had just praised him in full view of assorted cultivators from multiple well-established sects.
#ngl i don't remember when their first meeting is even supposed to have happened in the canon gshdhd#but given that JGY praises his swordplay when we see them interact#i assume it was either during the war#or at a night hunt?#so i went with the latter option#jin guangyao#su minshan#suyao#mdzs#ask game#me writes
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Nieyao brainworms alive and well. If anyone was wondering
#my art#mdzs#nieyao#jin guangyao#nie mingjue#i was eating a clementine and this interaction more or less happened with my husband and its nieyao hours so it made me want to draw this.#immediately after showing my husband he was like huh. isnt that what happened w us earlier.#and made fun of me for longing for Mingjue. hhh leaf me a lawn#also been listening to a cover of stay with me on loop so#i think ive been making too much good art so heres something trashy for a change
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I really enjoy throwing some random guy with no significant connections to either NMJ or LXC into 3zun.
#this is about su3zun btw#/throws them into a jar#/closes it#/shakes it very hard#/sees what happens#i just think it would be funny to watch sms interact w/ lxc and nmj#because his reaction to them is “who the fuck is that guy”#as opposed to his devotion to jgy#watch them fuck glaring daggers at eachother#while jgy pets all of them#like keeping feral cats from going @ eachother's throaths#tragic saber man#underestimated loyal dog#poor poet lan#feral little meowyao#su3zun#3zun#su minshan#jin guangyao#lan xichen#nie mingjue
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closed starter for jin guangyao!! ( @masqce )
"guangyao." zixuan calls, sure the man he'd seen across the room is his brother. "it's good to see you." he starts, determined to have a pleasant conversation with the younger man. "are you having a good time?"
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@masqce for Jin Guangyao
At first, Xichen didn't see Jin Guangyao. Xichen was just in his own little world, swaying to the music and sipping his ginger ale. "Lovely ball, isn't it?" He asks to whoever was next to him. "Especially in a place where one can explore and learn at the same time."
#Remember the things others do for you not the things you do for others (Lan Xichen interacts)#Sworn brother the Betrayer (Jin Guangyao)#masqce#muse: jin guangyao
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@masqce / guangyao and jin ling event starter
he didn't know where he had wandered off too, having just picked a direction in the building to disappear off too, forcing himself to keep going until he was sure no one had followed. it was probably some area he wasn't supposed to be, or at least particularly far out, considering he had somehow ran into his uncle in the process. jin ling didn't even have the energy to start his usual argument with jin guangyao, things about memories and murder a distant thought right now. "i'll find my way out of here soon i just need ten minutes without having to talk to my advisor." and the man would certainly corner jin ling again the moment he was given the chance.
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I cannot stress enough how MINOR of a petpeeve this is and how this is an interpretation that i'm comfortable with other people having even if i personally do not but I've noticed in a lot of 3zun fics, if jgy is holding smth back- generally his own feelings because his natural reaction to conflict is to make it Go Away and so if his emotional needs are the potential source conflict he will simply Not Look At Them.- That between nielan Xichen is the one who's worried and presses for comunication and Mingjue is like "Meng Yao is an adult if there was a problem he'd say so."
And I get why this is done, because nieyao's communication is generally atrocious and Xichen is the Gentle One who'd want to make sure a-yao is okay. So I get it. But. Canonically. The person going "I know a-yao, we trust each other, I don't need to ask him, he'll tell me on his own terms." is Lan Xichen and the one going "If Meng Yao doesn't want me to know something he WILL hide it from me and i'll have no idea because he's just that good at lying" is Nie Mingjue. And in a healthier nieyao dynamic, as these fics work under, that knowledge would not lead to automatic distrust but rather a desire to check in, to go: please remember that I value your honesty more than whatever you think you would burden me with by telling me what's going on.
Xichen also wants honesty and open communication ofc but his reaction to conflict is also to make it go away as fast as possible and he feels like saying it constantly feels accusatory so he wouldn't. If he asks if something is ok and a-yao smiles and goes of course er-ge checking again if it's really okay would be implying he was lying the first time!! He's showing his trust in him!! This is really refreshing if you're constantly assumed to be untrustworthy and meng yao appreciates it so much and it works really well 95% of the time but when it doesn't? Oh boy.
#examples of where that goes wrong *points at canon*#mdzs#3zun#nie mingjue#lan xichen#meng yao#jin guangyao#nieyao's communication is bad because they're going 'i CAN'T figure you out and so there's no point in trying'#and not because they think they understand the other perfectly#that's xiyao#who fall into this trap because they DO actually know each other better than almost everyone else#and so are completely blind to the few things they don't get about e/o#nielan can also do this#but it's more complicated cause i feel like they consciously DECIDE not to know each other sometimes#because they hold responsibilities to other people they must prioritize over each other. like so much canon nielan is wrapped up in duty#but idk exactly how that would translate if they did make the conscious decision to prioritize their relationship#and this post is about the yao-corner of the triangle and how they both interact with him so. will reserve those thoughts for another time
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shitpost dispatches from the unclean realm - why kill your darlings when you can just fuck them instead edition
#xue yang's whole reaction to poor meng yao's interaction with the world's shittiest commanding officer#is a gift#mdzs#mdzs shitposting#cql#the untamed#xue yang#fucking delinquent 🍭#meng yao#jin guangyao#he did crimes??? good for him 😌#moling queue
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I stan a lot of villains but I’ve possibly never been so of two completely different minds about a villain like JGY and it’s wild
I remain fascinated by the irony that the cut off point for me was when he killed his nasty father literally everyone in the fandom wanted to painfully die
Like JGY before that? Neat if infuriating, compelling to read about, will devour any fic exploring what could have been
JGY after that? uhhh what the fuck what the fuck go away how dare you you are literally exactly like your father??? like wtf would your mom say about this dude? you literally used those women like objects and then got rid of them?? OKAY. okay. will literally read no fic about him after this point anymore lmao
idk I think my interests are wild sometimes. also occasionally I will read people defending him and I’m like, “yeah I agree almost everyone else was awful too and let’s be real most of them would have also been quick to murder anyone disrespecting their mom like that. I would have but also... but also he went off the deep end and had to go down sorry bye. and it’s extra disappointing he’d use sex workers as mere disposable tools for his revenge while (rightly) building his mom a whole fucking temple“
do I have a point??? no but thoughts.
#I love and hate him so much as a character#mo dao zu shi#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#the untamed#jin guangyao#also why are there almost no fix that have lots of WWX and JGY interactions bc I need those#*fics but I meant fix-its so that works lmao#misogyny /
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Screaming crying banging my head on the wall. I am totally normal and not at all insane about this
I'm fucking SCREAMING ARE YOU SHITTING ME
ASDFGHJSDFGH
They are unreal. They are doing this on purpose, look at them!! They are RIDICULOUS OMG
How aren't more ppl going insane over this??? We talking about the psychopathic megalomaniac who was literally going to burn the world down... and he's being LIKE THIS to a cute little random guy who no one takes seriously but is just that good at what he does --and what he does is being charming af!!
AND IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE
#replies#mdzs#wen ruohan#meng yao#jin guangyao#ruoyao#why do we as a fandom ignore these interactions so much??#is it me??#am I being too delulu about just this small couple interactions???#bc this is the hill I'm dying on idc#I just want my dimpled boi to have nice things#and what's nicer than this paragon of daddyness!!
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Love having to read a post about how "JGY could've solved The NMJ Problem by [doing thing that was not even remotely the root of the issue and would've been a band-aid on a ruptured spleen at best]" with mine own eyes on this fine afternoon. Just.
#i'm not gonna involve myself with the post in any way#because ew human interaction#but what i will do is silently side-eye the op very hard#jin guangyao did nothing wrong
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