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IM SORRY FOR SENDING MULTIPLE ASKS IN A DAY
BUT I REALLY CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT LISA LISA HAMON AU WITH VAMPIRIC JOTAROO OREUEEUFEFIBUFIEQPIOWOQI-
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Oh god this would h a r m Jotaro so badly tho
A skill he'd been practicing and honing for years. A skill which had been passed onto him by his great grandmother, which he'd taken pride in, which he'd loved...... has been stolen from him alongside his humanity
He physically wouldn't be able to use Hamon anymore. The smallest and weakest of sparks would be able to tear through his body like it was paper, and it would be completely impossible for Jotaro to build up a "tolerance"
He'd still try I think. Out of denial or desperation for some kind of familiarity or out of terrified self destructive tendencies
On one hand the Hamon lessons from Lisa...... definitely wouldn't help with Jotaro's self image. On top of training him, Lisa would have eventually told him what exactly Hamon was used to combat in the past. Man eating beasts who killed for the sake of their own pleasure with little regard of others, monsters which had killed her birthparents and husband and students and nearly took her son, who couldn't be reasoned with and needed to be killed before they could do any greater harm
And now he was one of them. He was one of the monsters hiibaachan had been warning him about, had been training him to fight against, had been training him to kill if need be ever since he was a little boy
.....however on the other hand, it's going to give him a strange, macabre sort of comfort. It's concrete evidence that he isn't invincible, that he isn't the all powerful immortal Dio claimed vampires were. That there was something out there other than the sun that would be able to kill him for good if he ever went crazy
As for Joseph and Holly...... yeah, they're going to be much more upset about this secret training than they would be normally. In the original version of the AU at the very least their anger at the secret is tempered down to a mild frustration because it did save Jotaro's life during the fight after all. If anything Joseph would be a bit excited because he'd be able to have another shared interest with Jotaro
But here?
Yeah they're going to be P I S S E D
#I forgot to mention the first time I used it but “hiibaachan” translates to great grandmother#(if I translated correctly feel free to correct me on this if im wrong)#hamon crusader#vampiric jotaro#jjba#jojo’s bizarre adventure#stardust crusaders#stardust crusaders spoilers#sdc#jjba part 3#jjba jotaro#jotaro kujo#jjba lisa lisa#lisa lisa#jjba dio#dio brando#jjba joseph#joseph joestar#jjba holly#holly kujo#sb answers#whimizera me
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Pt 2. It's never mentioned (as far as I know) that a wife can beat her husband “lightly.” I just think that making any kind of abuse (no matter how light) permissible in a marriage is very dangerous and futile. I really hope none of this sounded rude. I’m not trying to bash the religion in any way, I’m just trying to get answers as this has been a huge roadblock for me.
Im sorry it took me so long to reply to you, i just wanted to really concentrate and do my best in answering you correctly. You didnt sound rude at all, and i didnt take your questions as something offensive in any way (please dont worry about things like these when talking to me, i barely ever get offended). Contrary to that actually, im glad youre keen on finding out and asking about it. You are right, violence does not belong to a marriage at all. However, the scholars have said that this “beat them (lightly, if it is useful)” does not actually mean that he should beat her, but that it is a light tap; like gently tapping with a miswak (i actually tried this on myself once, and it didnt hurt at all). The word “beating” doesnt explain it even nearly well enough, because normally when we talk about beating we refer to those “men” that hit and hurt their wives, which is definitely not allowed. Islam forbids beating women and warns strictly against it.But you realized this, so lets move on to the part in Quran that talks about the topic. “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women…. As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.” [Qur’an 4:34 – Muhsin Khan Translation]If a wife and a husband have an argument, and she has done something that goes against the rights of the husband, he has to talk to her about it first. “Youve done this and that, and these offended me so would you please not repeat it?”. So that is the first step, and usually in a healthy relationship this sort of kind speech solves it. However, if the problem continues; she keeps doing the same thing over and over again, he takes another step - refuses to share the bed with her. Now this is a bit stricter than the former one, because he has already tried verbally solving the problem but she doesnt listen. That gentle tap, “beating”, is only mentioned as the third option, if it is useful. This “beating” should be done without hurting her, without bruising her. This last step is only to show the severity of her transgression - “ive had enough, youve constantly been persistent on doing this wrong thing x”, it is not meant to be humiliating, forcing or causing pain. He is her protector and maintainer, and this includes him warning her from sins. When he has tried all the other ways of getting her to stop her wrong actions, and if she still persist then he takes this gentle tap as a last resort. So it is to be used only if the wife really does not change her behaviour after the two first stages; this is not to be taken as a first step. And i think that usually, in a healthy relationship with two people of sound mind, the first two steps should make the problem clear and have the spouses fix it. Yes, that gentle tap is allowed, but it is not mandatory. Muslims should strive to follow the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, who never hit a woman. Did this help at all? Please ask again if youre still confused. And if you have any more questions, please feel free to ask me. And dont let something like this stand in the way of you and Islam, this is definitely not as big of a deal as people often make it seem like. Ive been a muslim all my life, and im a girl too, but ive never been afraid that my future husband would beat me (or even just tap, because we’d simply communicate about the problem and if im wrong id fix it) if he truly is a righteous muslim (meaning there are men that beat their wives, but that is more of a upbringing/cultural/sickness thing, not a religious one at all). Anyone should please feel free to correct me if ive said anything at all thats wrong in any level, may Allah bless you. and may Allah guide you and give you whats good. anything i have said that is good is from Allah, but if ive said anything wrong then it’s from me.
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