#''shadow and silver are lancelot and galahad in sonic and the black knight'' okay and .

[sonknuxadow]

sorry i dont really like the shadow is silvers dad theory/headcanon/whatever and part of the reason for it is that people keep presenting it as an actual thing that could be possible even though it makes no sense and all "evidence" people use to back it up is easily disputed

[shadowxamyweek]

Where Does the Headcanon That Silver Is Shadow and Amy’s Kid Come From?

Much like Shadow calling Amy, 'Rose,' Silver being Shadow and Amy's kid is everywhere. If nothing else, he's often relegated to a distant descendant. When did we all agree though that this was just kinda a thing? To answer that, we're going to have to back up to Dragon Ball.

Sega has never hidden its love of Dragon Ball. Much of what is now Sonic Canon just started out as Sega artists and game designers delighting in some of the cool stuff Dragon Ball does, including but not limited to how the 7 chaos emeralds parallel the 7 dragon balls, and how Sonic's super form mirrors Goku's. This is important to keep in mind because there's another set of parallels that are being drawn when the, 'Silver is Shadow and Amy's kid,' headcanon comes into play. In Dragon Ball, there's an villain turned anti-hero/secondary protagonist called Vegeta and a very bubbly, very domineering woman named Bulma. The two get together and have a kid, named Trunks. Trunks ends up time traveling, specifically going back in time to prevent certain tragedies from happening. Aaaaand then once again, in Sonic, we have Shadow, being a villain turned anti-hero/secondary protagonist, and Amy, being a bubbly and domineering girl. We've also got Silver, who ends up time traveling, specifically going back in time to prevent certain tragedies from happening. *gestures loosely* People on Sega's payroll have noticed the parallels and commented on them as well. In 2008, on his Bumble King website, Ian Flynn answered some fan questions about the subject:

Later, in 2023, Flynn and his cohost Crouse over on the @bumblekast answered a question about this again:

(It's at 1:26:13, just in case I messed up the link) ---- TRANSCRIPT Crouse: Right, here's another question. This one is from ChaosSonic1. "This might kill this headcanon for others, but it always bugs me: people constantly consider Shadow and Amy as Silver's parents but that would be impossible due to two things. One, Shadow was in prison for 200 years. Thoughts?" ...That's only one thing but okay. [Laughter] Flynn: It is something that's come up because there were a lot of weird parallels, number one that silver was, you know, decidedly based on Trunks and I think it's quite obvious that Shadow is the kind of Vegeta of this group. It makes Amy default to the Bulma, which isn't really solid. I mean, if anything, Tails is the Bulma of the group, but you know there are no solid one to ones throughout the whole thing. You started trying to get too specific with it and falls apart. There was other stuff like-... something in Sonic and the Black Knight-... Amy was Nimune and Shadow was Lancelot and Silver was-... Galahad... Point being, within Autherial 1:27:40 within Arthurian, lore Silver's character was the child of Shadow and Amy's characters, which kind of made everyone go, 'beg pardon?' (Brief pause, this is slightly incorrect. Nimune is both the singular and plural name for water nymphs, one, or all of which, raised Lancelot. Galahad is *only* Lance's child. Again, like Dragon Ball, not a one to one, but enough to cock an eyebrow.) Flynn: There's also like the kind of vague mysticism around Amy and the fact that Silver can do Chaos Control so it's like, did he inherit Shadow's Chaos Control and his psychic powers from Amy? And it's all like extremely loose vague breadcrumbs that don't really so much make a line as they just are kind of scattered in the water for the ducks to eat so no, it doesn't really make any sense because like you said, in that timeline, Shadow was sealed away for like the duration and it's still 200 years. I don't think Amy was, you know, secretly carrying Shadow's love baby that long. That doesn't add up...- I mean, who knows. I mean, if that is your headcanon, if that's your ship, if that's how you want to connect the dots, go nuts. I'm not going to shoot it down.

Crouse: But there's also the whole thing, like time travel is a thing.

Flynn: Yeah.

Crouse: A lot of other things are things that could happen, like- [Laugh].

Flynn: And Amy's associated with Little Planet a lot, I get it, you can- you could put the pieces together that way if you wanted. I just don't think that's what Sega's doing with it.

Crouse: Well, no, but you know, who cares what Sega's doing except you I guess. You have to. Flynn: I do. It's part of my job.

Crouse: You have to care, but the rest of us now, we don't have to. Screw whatever Sega's doing, we can do whatever we want. My headcanon.

---- (This evidence I have to thank @shadamyheadcanons for. I remembered reading this ages ago, but couldn't remember *where*. She also provided the Bumblekast interview. ) I'm also going to point out, as many have before, that Sonic plays loose and fast with what Chaos Energy/Magic/Science/Whatever can and cannot do, including but not limited to time stuff as evidence in Sonic 06, where Silver debuted. I've also talked before that just because we see a future based off of the current events and trajectory of those events in 06, that does not mean that said-future is set in stone, and may very well change if the characters themselves make different decisions.

And that's *only* arguments for the headcanon that Silver is, in fact, their child. That doesn't include just how much more liberty there is in the headcanon that Silver is some distant relative, who's bloodline is intrinsically tied to Shadow and Amy. So yeah! That's where the headcanon comes from! It's moments like these that I can appreciate the lack of details in Sonic. That's not a thing I say very often, but in situations like these, it really allows for an open imagination of the different parts and pieces, and how they all fit together. Sonic is fun like that, and I love it for this reason <3

[weirdozjunkary]

Golden heart (SATBK au fic) chapter 4

This one I think is a little bit longer than the others. I actually had to cut it in half because I didn't realize how long I made this. Tension and a cliffhanger? Wonder what will come next?

Chapter1 Chapter3 Chapter5

Chapter 4- between a knight and a hedgehog

Sonic waved his hands in front of him, shaking his head dismissively as he wrapped his head around all of this. “No no no wait!” He put a hand to his hip and pointed a finger at the dark double, giving his famous grin. “You must be some guy that looks like Shadow, eh? Ha, well, you certainly still have his vibe, ill tell you that!”

The black hedgehog responded with a confused scowl. Who was this ‘Shadow’ this kid was talking about? What even WAS he talking about? And why did he look like the king back when he first met him? He wasn’t the king and the knight knew that. Though his manner of speech was odd, it was nowhere like the king's way of speaking. Admittedly he did think he was the king at first glance, but this was NOT him.

“Who are you?” The knight said in a harsh tone. “State your name and business at once!”

“Some things never change….” Sonic mumbled to himself as he shook his head. “Listen buddy, I can tell you my name if you tell me yours first, alright?”

“You wish to know MY name?” The hedgehog scoffed. “Very well. My name is Sir Lancelot! Knight of the Roundtable! My duty is to serve King Sonic and to protect this kingdom and all who are in it! Now tell me who you are or else I’ll smite thee down for trespassing on royal grounds!”

“Okay dude, chill!” Sonic raised his hands up in front of himself. “No need to spew out threats!”

“ ‘chill’? What is this idiocy? Tell me your name NOW!”

Sonic took a step back from the black hedgehog, giving a grin he usually gave when he was nervous. It was strange of him to be nervous, especially around Shadow. Normally any nervousness he had with him was because he was going to do something stupid. But something about this guy told Sonic that he could fold him like an armchair without breaking a sweat.

“A-Alright, listen buddy…” Sonic stuttered. “You might want to take a seat, cause you might not believe the words that come out of my mouth…”

“What words? What sort of nonsense are you spewing?” Lancelot responded even more hostile than before.

“Look! All I’m going to say is that…” Sonic inhaled. “I’m not from this place… or timeline… or universe… actually”

Lencelots eye twitched. “Are you making a fool out of me, young one?”

“Nope, no fools here. I am literally not associated with anything from this wo- URK!”

A hand lifted Sonic up by his throat. His feet dangled at most a foot off the carpeted floor. Lancelot’s scowl stared directly into his own face.

“O-okay! This is different…” Sonic strained.

“I don’t know what sort of game you are playing, hedgehog. But I will NOT fall to your childish attempts at fooling me.” Lancelot scoffed. “ ‘Another universe’. PAH! Do you take me for an idiot who will fall for talks of sorcery?”

“Don’t you use chaos energy?”

“BE QUIET! KNAVE!”

“Dude listen! I am not a threat! I literally met the king like this morning!” Sonic flailed his legs in a panic.

“Oh is that so?” Lancelot said with playful undertones.

“YES! YES IM TELLING YOU THE TRUTH!”

“Um, what is going on here?” A voice drifted in, turning their heads. It was a very tall silver coloured hedgehog, heck he was taller than Shadow- I mean, Lancelot. He didn’t have any armor on, so there was no telling if he was in the guard or not 

“Ah! Silver!” Sonic said with relief. “Im so-“

“Sir Galahad.” Lancelot interrupted. “I’m here interrogating this pest that thought he could walk into here!”

Galahad looked at sonic then back at Lancelot. “Lancelot, that's a child. I don't think poses a threat.”

Sonic furrowed his brow at the comment. He hated being called a kid, especially in that demeaning manner… even if he WAS a kid in a sense. Still, being talked down like that. He wasn’t gonna stand it.

“If so, then how did he get into the castle grounds?” Lancelot raised a brow.

Galahad paused in thought, then turned to the blue hedgehog. “How DID you get in here?”

“Uh… I ran?” Sonic strained out the last word.

“… You… ran…”

“I am REALLY fast! Practically known for my speed!” Sonic said with a cheeky grin.

Galahad gave Lancelot a look, who greatly returned one back to him. “ you are known for your speed? Something that the king was once known for in his adventure days? You do look like him to…”

“He says he’s from ‘another world’ to” Lancelot added.

“What do you mean?”

“He told me he’s from ‘another universe’. One where he babbles nonsense like he does.” 

“Really? That’s very… quaint.”

“Look, you guys can go on with your fancy talk or whatever…” Sonic said. “But uh- if you could just put me down, I’ll be out of your quills and-“

“Oh no! You aren’t leaving until we know what your business is!” Lancelot growled.

“Come on, Shadow! I told you about it already!”

“Enough with the nonsense, knave!” Lancelot shouted as he shook sonic like a ragdoll. “And who is this ‘Shadow’ you keep talking about?”

“Yes, you addressed me as ‘Silver’ when I entered the room.” Galahad said. “Are there others who are impersonating us?”

He leaned in next to Lancelot. Both knights looking very suspicious of the blue hedgehog that Lancelot had hoisted up by his throat. Though, Lancelot looked more annoyed or angered than anything, but that was just how Shadow usually was. Oh geez. There was no positive way around this encounter, was there? The king could always step in. But that guy seemed to be a shut in even to his own knights. 

“Haha okay, it seems that you guys aren’t believing me… surprisingly.” Sonic nervously chuckled. “Listen, if you let me go I PROMISE everything will be explained! Maybe we can call a meeting? Maybe around after dinner?” He shrugged with a big nervous grin on his face.

The knights grew more intense. Lancelot looked like he was about to toss him into the river if he kept on talking. 

“ I…..” sonic threw his hands down in defeat. “Ah, forget it.”

He kicked the dark knight across his face as swiftly as he could, releasing himself from his grasp. Using his momentum, Sonic spun and light speed dashed down the hall, creating a long trail of dust as he zoomed out of view at the speed of sound.

“What the hell?!” Lancelot cursed as he rubbed off the dirt from his cheek.

“He’s so fast!" Galahad said in amazement.

“AFTER HIM!” Lancelot ran past galahad who soon followed the pursuit. “We need to stop him before he tries anything!”

Sonic bounced, flipped, and unrolled himself. His sneakers squeaked as he retained his ballance. “Heheh, okay. That could have gone smoother…” 

“HEDGEHOG!!!” Lancelot screamed down the halls. He, along with Galahad, was fast. He was keeping pace with him.

“Huh, looks like ‘Tall dark and handsome’ and his friend are faster than I thought!” Sonic admitted. “But let’s see if they can catch up after THIS!” He gripped the ground and spun his legs around. Faster and faster they spun as he revved up his speed. “Sorry, I gotta split! But if you want to chat more, come on and talk to the king! If you can get to him before me!” 

And as soon as he let go he zoomed as fast as he could, faster than before. A ‘Super Peel Out’ as he called this move. He rarely used it, but boy was it fast! The move made his sneakers skidd and scream like a race cart on a race track. The blurry images that passed him flew by in slow motion to his eyes, each pillar or decoration were monochrome blobs to him. 

He zipped and zoomed. Turning on a dime around corners that seemed impossible. “Where’s that old guy!” He said to himself, trying to discern one monochrome blob from the other. The only thing he could see clearly was himself and what was right in front of him. A blue blur whizzed by from what Sonic could only guess was an open door. Was that the king? He was already too far to stop and turn himself around, he was going to have to take the long way back to him.

Three turns round and Sonic rushed down to the blue figure, who he now could see definitely was the king. He slowed down his pacing to prepare to skidd and stop before him.

“HEY! BLUE!” Sonic called out.

The king turned his attention to him, then squinted his old eyes at the blue speck that was approaching.

Sonic waved his arm out above his head. “BLUE! THERES SOMETHING THAT I MIGHT NEED HELP ON-“

The dark and silver knight appeared before him, it was chaos control! A move used mostly by Shadow the hedgehog, how fitting for this knight to be able to use it to. 

A green glow came from Lancelot as he drew out an electric blade made of chaos energy. Chaos spear. “YOU HAVE RAN FAR ENOUGH!” He lifted the chaos blade to strike.

“WOAH WOAH WOAH WAIT WAIT WAIT!” Sonic panicked and tried his hardest to stop moving forward. At the speed he was going, he was going to ram right into them.

[sonknuxadow]

sorry i know i cant stop people from having their headcanons or aus or whatever but i find it kinda silly when people present the idea of silver being shadows son as if its an actual plausible theory.... because all the "evidence" for it is very minor stuff thats easily explained away . and then theres also the fact that in the 06 timeline shadow was put back into stasis shortly after iblis destroyed the world because humanity was looking for someone to blame for it. and silver also says that iblis has been around since before he was born. im aware that the future is always changing so a future where an adult shadow is around to interact with a tiny little baby silver isnt entirely out of the question but wouldnt this plot detail make shadow being silvers biological father very unlikely if not outright impossible??