#''THIS POST IS ABOUT WOMEN. MEN DNI''
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weird how queer people will talk for 100 years about trans and nonbinary acceptance and then view manhood and womanhood as mutually exclusive
#op#multigender#trans#nonbinary#inspired by all the posts i see that are like#''THIS POST IS ABOUT WOMEN. MEN DNI''#bestie im both#its about me because im a woman but it excludes me because im aman??
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I love it when women hate men. I love it when women are allowed to vent to each other about how horrible and creepy men are. I love it when women form friendships with and prioritize each other over relationships with men(whether they're attracted to them or not). I love it when women put men dni in their bios and on their nude photos and on posts on their blogs. I love it when women refuse to mollycoddle and accommodate entitled male feelings with "but this doesn't mean I hate all men, I know a few men who are great, I love my father/sons/brothers/uncles/male cousins/guy friends" I love it when women complain about men WITHOUT "not all men" being a disclaimer. I love it when women avoid socializing with/refuse to be around/befriend/get close to men because they know men can't be trusted. I love it when women make "kill all men" jokes. I love it when women offer absolutely no concern or care for men's feelings and if their misandry offends men whatsoever because why should we, men are the oppressor class who have raped and killed and abused us and kept us as subjugated as second-class citizens for millennia, they regularly mistreat us and the women in their own marginalized communities still every single day and make this world so much harder and more awful for us to be in, and if we choose to hate them and not spare them any sympathy then so be it, and I don't just mean "men as a class" either, you can be a woman who doesn't want to have anything to do with any man on an individual basis and completely cuts off men from her personal life too and ykw I will love and fucking support you in that because men deserve absolutely NOTHING from us. If they're so tough and strong then they can handle it just like they can handle being lonely. If you are a woman who hates men, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A LESBIAN AND/OR A TRANS WOMAN, then just know that I love you. I love you, I support you, and you are safe here.
#was going to make a post about how much i hate that women aren't allowed to hate their oppressors but i decided to spin it into something#positive instead#this is supposed to be the feminist site that makes reddit mgtow piss their baby diapers so let's go back to despising men and not coddling#their feelings and let's dye our hair blue while we're at it#i am so tired of this new wave of guilt-tripping and gaslighting women who hate men and don't trust or want to be around them#i hate how we're made into villainesses or the problematic ones for not valuing them in our lives or for wanting to guard ourselves or be#safe from our oppressors#and i'm tired of people who don't know the first thing about feminism being like 'BUT THAT'S TERF RHETORIC WHAT ABOUT X MINORITY MEN'#guess what women can also be x minority that you're trying to protect the men of and we get to hate men too#trans women are included when i say women btw and trans men are included when i say men#if anyone has the right to hate men more than anybody else it's trans women esp trans lesbians because they put up with so much shit#from men that even cis women do not and they especially know how vile men are behind closed doors#so#terfs fuck off#radfems fuck off#and if anybody tries to make this post more appeasing to men or 'not all men's this post you are getting blocked and hit with a hammer#feminism#misogyny#sexism#patriarchy#tw men#tw rape#tw abuse#misandry#terfs dni#radfems dni#feminists need to go back to being scary and unpalatable for men none of this 'but some of them are good!' bullshit#men are entitled to nothing from us#and if you try to prove me wrong then you are just proving my point if you have nothing good to say then simply keep scrolling#ok? ok.
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My clit is hard and I want attention >:(
#men dni#This post is for women#this post is about lesbians#cl!t#cl1t#wlw nsft#attention slvt#attention wh0r3#chronic masturbator
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you go to a lesbian blog and find it says women only!! no men allowed!!! and go oh! excuse me, um, what about other lesbians? plenty of lesbians are genderqueer... and they go well, okay, go fuck yourself tim chop off your sweaty dick and stop calling yourself a lesbian. you do not have a dick, actually. you think about that fact often, even though it does you no good. you do not tell this person that.
you go to another lesbian blog and it says women only and you try again, and this time they change it to wlw + nblw only (non-men who love non-men :D). and you'll say hey i appreciate that but gender's not really that cut and dry for a lot of people. someone could be both a man and nonbinary, for instance. i just worry that you're looking at nonbinary as a generic third gender, or an extension of womanhood. i mean yeah you include nblw in your tags but all your posts are about pussy-havers exclusively. what's with that? and they say go fuck yourself you pervy man pretending to be a lesbian. you tried to sneak in but i won't let you.
so you go to a lesbian blog with a dozen or so posts about queer people needing to be more weird about it and you sigh in relief. but you still see the men dni. that's odd. hoping for the best, you say hey! i know you mean well but please maybe don't put men dni at the end of the lovely posts on your lesbian blog bc some lesbians are men. and they'll be like ok!! well you're allowed ;) and you say no that's not. no. some men are lesbians not just me. you think about your own dicklessness and wonder if that's why you were given entry. and you add that even if male lesbians are allowed, there's no indication of that. how would anyone know without asking? and they're like ohh gotcha gotcha well men dni + this is for sapphics only!! and you'll be like ok well that treats the concepts of men and sapphics as mutually exclusive identities and i just told you that's not true and you agreed with me so.. i don't think that solves our problem. and they're like. ok. fine. men dni but genderfluid and multigender people are allowed! and you're like no see that's. that's still the same thing.. you're saying the same thing just with different words. if you don't want men to interact but you're fine with multigender/genderfluid/etc ppl interacting then you either don't see them as Real Men (because they don't reach a standard of Full Manhood) or Complete Men (because they're only Part-Time Men), both of which suggest that they are, in some way, not men or less-than men, which is invalidating and defeats the point of the exception in the first place (accommodation) OR that you don't really mean the dni which is confusing and inconsistent and makes guydykes feel weird and uncomfortable and excluded from the lesbian space you're trying to cultivate. and they're like um. ok. so. cishet men dni? and you're like well i think that makes more sense, but what if someone identifies as both a cishet man and a sapphic? again, if we're trying to accommodate the genderfucky populace then that has to be a possibility that is considered. and they say god you people are never happy. what do you want me to do? what am i supposed to say to keep the right men out? and you pause. you empathize with the need for a space free from dudes trying to fuck you straight and feminine. dudes who watch lesbian porn and joke about what they'd do if they were allowed into girls locker rooms. who look at you like a piece of meat, and like someone who looks at women like pieces of meat in the same way he does. you get it. you know. you want a space where you can be sapphic, too. that's why you came to these blogs in the first place. you brace yourself and you say well i don't know that there are "right men" to keep out. i don't know that there's any single label that would accomplish whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. you could go for "sapphics only" or "queers only" and i think that might be the closest thing to what you want, but it's never going to be perfect. creating any exclusive space is going to shut out people you didn't account for, and the broader the label, the more people will be shut out that you didn't want to shut out. and what about people who don't know if they're allowed? what of questioning transbians, where are they supposed to go? and, frankly, i think i might rather my dykey posts get read and appreciated by a gay guy who sees me as a man than a woman who only sees me as a sacred womb, pure from male perversions or violence or whatever. i think community might just be more complex than a dni can handle. and they look at you and say i don't want to not have a dni. i think you're too permissive. you can't just "what about" or microlabel your way into everything. go fuck yourself, i bet you're not even a lesbian anyway. go find a real problem to get mad about.
you go to a lesbian blog. you ignore the men dni because you know you probably don't even count to them. or maybe you do count and, out of respect for your manhood, they'd shun you accordingly. you try to feel okay about that. you scroll past dozens of posts about mediocre men and gagging at straight friends' boyfriends and how gross and undeserving men are of the beautiful women they couple up with and how all women should be gay so they can get treated right and and and and and. you finally find a post about curling into someone you love and feeling at peace and try to lose yourself in it. you know that feeling is what unites you, what makes you belong. you try to focus on it. you think about carding your hands through a butch's hair or lacing fingers with a femme and feeling warm and loved and more yourself than you ever have before. like this is who you're meant to be. you read about lesboys and butch boytoys and genderfucky dykes and big hairy deep-voiced wonderful women (like you want to be someday, like you wish you could make yourself) and you try to ignore the men dni underneath each and every post. and you daydream about meeting someone kind and earnest at a lesbian bar even though you don't think any such bars exist within three states of you and you can't drink and don't want to drink because you need to be in control of yourself at all times so you don't fuck up like you're always about to and here in the nonexistent lesbian bar you feel wanted and safe and in good company. you picture your ideal, happiest self. it is a mistake. ideal-you has a goatee. not the mascara one you smear on and call drag even though you know it's not drag, not really, the beard you call drag because you think everyone would look at you sadly if you told them it was just to pretend you had something out of your reach. a beard that's soft and that you grew and that cannot be smudged away if you get too comfortable with it. the dream shatters. your people pull away from you, their scoffs mixing with the mind-numbing gay girl bedroom pop you learned to settle for just to have something that almost resembled you, they all pull away and turn their backs and do not look at you. you're too close to being a man now, even though you're the same amount of man as before. and they know you're not supposed to interact with men, not as you would with dykes, at least. and it sours. it's all your imagination, all in your head, but it sours.
you sigh. you think about how small you are. how short, how narrow, how feeble. how your voice pitches up when you talk to strangers because it's easier to speak quietly when it carries more, and because you're nervous. because it's a chore to talk, like everything is. you think about testosterone. you think about how your family would look at you, the questions they would ask, your answers they would only pretend to accept. the uncomfortable glances and whispered questions they'd try to hide from you. you think about how small you are, and how small you will always be. how you don't know of a way to fix it, but even if there was one, no one would want you anymore. you'd be the only one thinking it made you a cooler dyke. you think about how you don't even want a T-voice all the time, how you'll never be able to switch it at will, because you don't know how and can't bring yourself to figure it out. you think about how your throat closes around every hint of your own attraction. how wanting is perverse, how wanting is invasive, how wanting is embarrassing and too vulnerable so it must stay anonymous, as an online witness, and how you can barely manage to form or maintain friendships because your brain makes you pull away, always spinning out and struggling to recover from the simplest of interactions. how they'll all leave you and you won't chase after them at all and how that will hurt them. how stuck you get. how it looks like nothing's holding you back, how that frustrates everyone who thought you were going to be more than you were. the people you love who understand except when it comes to being ghosted, being shut out. how you don't want to hurt them. how you can't tell them that because you're stuck. how you turn to stone when touched, how you never reach out, how you lose your speech and can't look at people, how your autism is fun and sexy until it becomes real and you never see them anymore, how much you longed for someone who knew everything without you having to explain, and who loved you anyway. how unreasonable you know that is to expect of anyone. you think about that not-even-real lesbian bar. you think about how you still can't drive. how you can't leave your home on your own, without dragging somebody into helping you. how you can't leave your body. how you can't leave your manhood behind.
you think about finding another lesbian blog and ignoring everything. about skimming it for the parts you can juice some meaning from. the parts men ignore and don't understand, and how typical of you it is to do so. or the parts where you're not welcome and you should accept that, because it's for lesbians only. how you are a lesbian anyway. how you're meant to choose lesbian or man, how each is a betrayal of some kind to yourself or your people, your family, your lovely strangers, your rare friendly acquaintances. about the parts that tell you you're not wanted, that you're ugly and lazy and gross and insert yourself everywhere without even asking. about the parts that tell you you are hated, and how lesbians are above it all by rejecting men. how lesbians are each blessed miracles. about the parts that say you should be ashamed of being whatever twisted confused freak you are, of everything, of looking and wanting or not looking or not wanting, of picking and choosing instead of taking it all in with a smile. after all, shouldn't you take it? or is your ego too fragile, as men's so often are? aren't you tired? good. we're not here for your consumption. and we sure as hell don't want your company or "community" or whatever. didn't you read the sign? no boys allowed. and if you want to come in you have to make up your mind. as if you haven't told them the only answer you have. you're both. you're both.
you know you broke the rule by interacting.
but it gets lonely sometimes. you wonder if they know.
#before i maybe get yelled at:#1) no i do not think ppl are evil for having men dnis no i do not think these are all equal transgressions even#though there is an overlap that should be examined that i think is based in a degree of lesbian separatism + exclusionism#2) yes there are lesbian blogs and people that are cool about genderfucky people. i'm not talking about them#3) this is a stylized vent post about trying to find lesbian content on tumblr that isn't like this. all these dnis/rules are ones i have#encountered. no i do not literally tell these people to change their dnis to suit me. the conversations are symbolic and ideological in#nature. if i find a blog with men dni i generally go somewhere else. it's about emotions. it's about my feelings on that it's not literally#about dming someone demanding they change things. it's not about demanding that You change things or else you're a bad person.#4) it is about the conflicts and hypocrisy and inconsistency of strict and exclusive sexuality labels persisting in gender-diverse spaces#and how it affects me as a lesbian who is a man who is a woman who is fucking whatever else. and yes it is about transphobia too.#5) it's about how lesbians feel the need to exclude men and how i think efforts to do so fail and hurt ppl and are often misguided#tht i think also comes up in like. bi lesbian/mspec lesbian/gaybian discourse. i'm not any of those myself but it seems like there's overla#6) if this post seems whiny and sad and insecure that's because it probably is. i have a right to be all of those things.#7) no i do not think all lesbians are man-hating assholes. i am a lesbian. i love lesbians. i love dykes and most of them are fantastic ppl#i just think the general bullshit of the world leads to this defensive thing that ends up hurting others in our community y'know?#8) i get that my perspective/experience is a bit unusual and many lovely ppl haven't considered it. that's part of why i'm sharing this#nyarla dni#<- sorry man it's too vulnerable. gonna keep this one to the internet-only folks#adding this wayy later but a crucial part of the experience i Almost talked about it this but never explicitly did was that like#the measures ppl take to 'defend against men' are often deeply transmisogynistic as well. obviously#and when i see that it hurts me too. not that it hits me the same way when strangers assume im a trans woman and hate me for it#but it doesn't feel good to see transphobia at all. i focused on how that relates to other kinds of transphobia#namely transandrophobia here but like. it's all connected. lesbain separatism + exclusionism relies on both and they aren't always#distinct experiences. ime. anyway trans ppl i love all of you forever#i just thought me writing “*turns to the camera* and trans women exp this too.' wouldve been too much even for this post#i figured the audience would like. know that. and so far it hasn't been an issue. i have not been yelled at thanks guys 🫶
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"all these achilleans putting women dni in their posts are so cringe and misogynistic!! 😂😒😒"
meanwhile sapphics:
#btw this isn't me saying that lesbians have to be attracted to men or whatever.#this is me saying that. if sapphics can have their posts about simping for women without men trynna intervene.#then achilleans can have posts where they simp about dudes without women as well.#cuz last time i checked. that was called homophobia.#hating on queer men isn't a progressive and feminist take. it just makes you homophobic.#so anyway: women dni <3#queer#lgbt+#achillean#mlm#vincian#discourse i guess???? i mean i'm not trying to start shit but i feel like i should tag it that way just in case.
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Idk what new followers/regular rbers need to hear this but:
I am a Man so of you have Men dni and complaints that men dont respect boundries. wh a t are YOU doing on my blog :? I thought we were the ones who never read before reblogging and interacting :)
#i am gonna block some people once im on my puter#but im kinda tired of being told how bad me and men are about boundries#but some of you are seeing butch and going no futher#and hitting that follow while you got post bitching about ur pinned being ignored#and that's kinda hypocritical dontcha think ;?#mine#vent#dni are fucking stupid in the first place just block creeps#vut if ur gonna bother to put me in it dont make it my job to tell you to go away#bc ur assuming my nb means women lite
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if taylor swift was tyler swift, would you still be hating on "him" as much?
i think not. check your internalized misogyny.
#Asks#anonymoose#anti taylor swift#swifties dni#amazing how swifties just go blind when you post about men the same way you post about her#trying to force women to conform to your ideals? on women’s day? more likely than you think
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Hey, guess what!
Identity policing and gatekeeping doesn't stop being identity policing and gatekeeping just because you say so.
You can tell me the world is flat all you want. It will continue to be round.
#this post is about any and all identity policing but was prompted by a lesbian gatekeeping lesbianism#if you gatekeep any aspect of the queer community then you are a fed#nobody is erasing your identity - you're just being an exclusionary shitwad#also genuinely considering blocking everyone who has one of those ''men dni'' tags on their bios because like#that's just the ''Non-Binary is women+'' mentality the long way around#many enbies identify strongly with manhood - some lesbians actually identify strongly with manhood#''hate all men'' is not the progressive stance you think it is hun...
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Idk if I've complained about this on here before, but it drives me up the fucking walls how male isekai stories mainly have the protagonist doing and accomplishing great things in the "outside world" while female isekai stories have the protagonist healing from past trauma and/or dealing with family matters (even political dealings)... like, even if the female protagonists are in the public sphere, it reeks of "public vs. domestic spheres" and "women belong in the kitchen/home. "
#not a quote#female protagonists are 'passively' being healed by others. the story isn't really about their actions#I want buff women killing monsters is what I'm saying#bc I do like healing stories and non-typically strong characters#but c'mon. it's way too obvious at this point#I have heard of like. two isekai stories with strong female leads and one of them didn’t even transmigrate#(the Executioner and Her Way of Life)#actually there are dark stories with powerful FL like Your Throne now that I think about it but none of them are physically strong#I'm talkin' Tower fantasy stories....stories with systems...you know....#my posts#isekai#isekai rants#sexism tw#sexism in media#I adore healing-from-trauma stories but if they only consist of women you're saying something you didn’t mean to say#women are not naturally victims and men are not naturally abusive/stronger#also those stories that try and critize medieval sexism but completely ignore how their mc is just the modern 'ideal woman'...cringe#esp when the love interest is the one being sexist.... die die die#sexism#radfems dni#terfs dni#pro patriarchy dni
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Went out for a cheeky time on the town in a gay bar hopping fashion, and was once again rudely reminded that many people do not view bisexual women as people that belong in the queer community.
#bisexual#biphopia#biphobes dni#why have a B in LGBTQ+ if y’all continue to refuse to acknowledge it as a VALID sexuality#makes me feel incredibly out of place in a community that is all about acceptance#:(#I’m not valid if I dare men and if I date women I’m a lesbia#rant post
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saw a post saying that putting 'men dni' in ur bio/whatver is ignorant/phobic against multigender ppl, like if you want to be included in the men group you have to be excluded when ppl dont want you around
ppl who feel uncomfortable interacting with men (queer or not) should be able to state that without someone thinking its a targeted attack against their identity
#like you dont get a pass from being excluded for being a man just cuz ur also a woman#its 'men dni' and not 'women only' for a reason#and FUCK even if someone wants their posts to only be interacted with feminine gendered ppl who gives a hoot#we should be making ppl feel comfortable in their curated online spaces#if you feel uncomfortable then ignore/block#like you cannot make a fuss about also being considered a man then fuss about the complications with that
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I think there's something inherently bad about trying to exclude men from sapphic posts, and excluding women from gay posts. Even further, I think there's something reductive in general about excluding people of any gender from a post about being queer (or most things really). types of posts shouldn't be gendered.
I'm not saying that the people that do this are evil or bad people by any stretch, and by no means do I think this is something to attack people over.
#saw a random post about liking women that said something like “men and homophobes DNI”#i dont remember who posted it#and ive seen all forms of this kind of DNI warning#and i find it weird that its a generally normal thing to do that#idk im just some random person on the internet dont take my opinion that seriously
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I'm rather new to Tumblr, but it's been really refreshing to find spaces that do just outright exclude men. It sours the mood to have men waltzing into very obviously lesbian things (especially the ones that celebrate our independence from men) and sitting down with their pants around their ankles.
misandry isn't a real form of systemic oppression. women don't owe you kindness when expressing frustration with how men treat them. you're just misogynistic and uncomfortable when called out on your own behavior❤️
#men dni#lesbian#I remember seeing someone post an ask they'd received on their sapphic blog#he was malding about how terrible it was that there were women who wouldn't want him#cope and seethe little man#male gaze unwanted#male gays probably lost but accepted
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sometime i expect people who try to give me shit for my opinions to be somewhat right but theyre always extremist lunatics who have never been offline
#why do people who have me in their dni in their blog descrip talk to me#also her whole blog was dedicated to bisexual people being evil#get a fucking hobby#me: gives a kumbaya statement about gay people getting along#deranged women who are trying to combat misogyny by exhibiting every other form of bigotry and even making some up in my replies: 🧍♀️#and i know its because all they have is scrolling through tumblr search function for phrases they could try to ben shapiro rant at#but i dont have sympathy#also i feel like the butch cracker barrel post i have had men in trump hats shove cameras in my face for asking them to wear a mask do you#think im gonna wither cause you call me retard with a 3 censoring it
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I’ll never forgive everyone who has retraumatize her and call her a liar. Considering what she’s had to endure, losing her family members and getting shot by this Canadian sociopath and him traumatizing her for two years I have every right to say that I am, always have, and will forever ever be and remain outraged for her and every bw and women in general who has has been harmed by punks like lames
The black community progressively gets worse as the years go by, the Megan the Stallion situation being a prime example. This honestly should’ve been a moment where the community banded together and helped fight for justice for Megan but instead the likes of both black men AND women are clowning her and making light of the situation. We need to do better.
#I’m disgusted#i want Megan to not trust or help anyone moving forward#ReblogView post#Avatar#sarcasticmrfox#mochachocolatteyaya#Dec 24#2022#it's really#so embarrassing#and shameful#and it just emphasizes how things were probably always like this#but black men continuously get raised up on higher pedastals#dancing like minstrels for ww/nbw#and black women who dont love themselves either still supporting them#continuously begging for the scraps like they were raised to do#its so fuckin embarrassing#nb dni#always for queue#like my coworker today talking about ''yall know i love me some chris brown'' WHY. why tho!!#cuz that nigga did a backflip?!#there is NO conviction. NONE.
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why have us queer people as a community normalized terms like "boygirl" or "girlboy" or other things like that but not like. the actual experience of being multigender. i swear some people will be like "ahaha its so cool and swag to be a #girlboy #boygirl" then turn around and be like "MEN DNI THIS POST IS ABOUT WOMEN" "MEN CANT BE LESBIANS (because no man is ever a woman too)" etc etc like come on guys
EDIT: i added an entire rant about this here
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