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romans-empire · 19 days ago
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A Clover trait that I haven't seen anyone mention is that they actually have a good or nice singing voice according to Insomnitot. Adding to this, from the Lucky Patch teaser we could assume that they also know how to play the harmonica. What I'm saying is that Clover is, on some level, musically talented.
And if we take into consideration what Martlet says during one of her team talk dialogue about the boss themes (OSTs), music (at least in UTY canon) is a way for monsters to express themselves. It's a natural occurrence formed by the magic of the monster you are fighting. So therefore, music would be connected to identity and expressionism in the Underground.
So, do you think while traversing the Underground Clover would hum little songs to themselves? Do you think Clover would play the harmonica for Dalv which inspired him to create a new music piece? Do you think while in the saloon, Clover and Starlo would sing a duet together or play the harmonica for him? I mean it is implied that Starlo inherited his mother's voice and that Crestina is good at singing.
Do you think while traveling through Steamworks, they would tap on the metal to the rhythm of songs they like while Ceroba watches on? Do you think while traveling with Martlet they would sing a song with her as Martlet fumbles through the lyrics?
Do you think that in every timeline Clover plays something or sings something for Flowey, sometimes making fun of him but other times in a genuine way to express how much they are thankful for his company? Do you think that in every other universe, Flowey tries to play the harmonica with Clover teaching him and he's so bad at it that Clover makes fun of him? Do you think that as he resets more and more, going through timeline after timeline, he slowly gets better to the point he finally learns the song that Clover was teaching him?
Do you think that that timeline was the last time they will ever play the harmonica or sing for him and he didn't realize it? Do you think that long after Clover's sacrifice, he finds himself humming the song subconsciously only to forget the next part and look to the side to ask Clover only to remember that they're gone? Do you think he sometimes still hears them humming along?
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romans-empire · 12 days ago
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[Tags from @the-great-papyru that I find interesting.]
Finally someone talks about this! When I first played through UTY I abused the save option because I was an anxious mess who constantly forgot if they saved or not so I discovered this really early, as in the first save point early. The extra dialogues from Flowey were a surprise so whenever I came across a new save point, I would save at least 5 times to completely get all his dialogue. I think that was a key factor in why I hyperfixated on Lucky Patch so hard. Though it's a shame that most players end up not realizing that Flowey gives off extra dialogue when saving more than once.
Alright, enough rambling about my own experience, it's time to give my thoughts. Like what the tags above show, I also think that Flowey's willingness to just let Clover save as much as they want is a way to give reassurance. To whom you may ask? Well, either himself or to Clover. I'm leaning more towards Flowey as from my interpretation of Flowey, he's someone who projects himself, more specifically Asriel's traits, to others a lot. He projects these traits so hard that I don't think he even realizes it, he's so blinded that it skews his perspective of others negatively. I would like to point up again to the tags above as those spell out my thoughts rather clearly. Though I will add that maybe this need of reassurance from Flowey is amplified due to Clover paralleling a certain human he once knew.
On Clover's side, I also think it would be a way of reassuring themselves. On the less serious note, I also think it's just a way for them to annoy him. Or even a backup plan for when they are going to do something stupid that is likely to backfire, such as drinking acid. And most importantly, my Lucky Patch heart says that they save multiple times to spend time with Flowey, just to unwind from the chaos of their surroundings. He's the only constant after all, the only one who understands what they've gone through in a way none of the others would ever understand. So what if Clover's a little dependent on Flowey? He's their best friend! As well as their benefactor, it's only natural that they would want to spend time with him. The only dialogue I can remember immediately that supports this are the dialogues you get in the Wild East when you save multiple times before and after every Feisty Five section. And if I don't remember incorrectly, the save dialogue where Flowey matches Clover's aesthetic by wearing a cowboy hat himself.
rambling about something that probably means nothing
so yeah replayed undertale yellow a bit and someone that really interests me in terms of clover and flowey's dynamic is how no matter how much you annoy flowey by making him save the game for you, he won't stop you. sure, he'll tell you you're wasting time, you're risking frostbite, that you need to get a move on, but not once does he actually stop you. you can confuse him by going back and saving your game somewhere else, but he'll still let you.
why was this something i felt a need to post about? how does this interest me? well i love it because of the general ambiguity of why he might be letting clover just keep saving their game whenever they ask. sure, it could just be so they become dependent on him to feel safe, but it really seems to genuinely annoy him most of the time with how he rushes you. i'd expect him to... stop saving my game to emphasize that he's not gonna just let you sit around and waste valuable time, but he just lets you. i'm probably overthinking it, who knows, maybe this is for the player's convenience. after all, it'd be really annoying gameplay wise if flowey just refused to save your game. but i like to think it's deeper than that. perhaps this could be flowey attempting to reassure them in his own weird flowey way. they shouldn't NEED NEED him to feel safe, so they oughta get a move on. stop risking frostbite and do something.
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lachatalovematcha · 11 days ago
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pixxietart · 17 days ago
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Meow meow!! >:3
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romans-empire · 13 days ago
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On some level, Clover was indeed affected by his confession of only using them to further his goals. I would say that the blast is a quick and direct way of killing and serving vengeance to their opponents as seen with Axis and Asgore. So why the gun? The easiest answer we can infer is that it hurts more. It's a slow and painful death in comparison to the blast which decimates everything in its path in seconds. Unlike monsterkind's "crimes" which only indirectly affects Clover, Flowey's crime is personal to them which leads Clover to be more harsher with their vengeance or "justice" as they like to call it.
one of my favorite details in the vengeance route is how axis gets the clover blast, martlet gets the clover blast, asgore gets the clover blast. but all flowey gets is the gun
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kingspacebar · 6 months ago
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Sitty...
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soulless-prince · 7 months ago
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howdy flowey. Still the same old friend I see?
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* It's been a while...hasn't it, CLOVER?
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bleue-flora · 8 months ago
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"If you love and cherish our green boy you are welcome to this garden as a flower, plant or lurking gardener, please make sure not to trample any plants and water them with reblogs, notes, comments, asks, and replies to keep them healthy." (context)
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dedi-ashour · 1 day ago
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‏ربما سأغرقك بالفرص واحدة تلو الأخرى ؛
لكنك لن تعرف ابداً أيهن ستكون الأخيرة .
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nerdymakerwasteland · 8 months ago
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Доброго и чудесного утречка всем! Хорошего настроения!
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romans-empire · 21 days ago
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Honestly, I could talk about Lucky Patch for hours. I didn't expect to like their dynamic when I played UTY for the first time, yet here we are.
To be honest, I did not like Flowey prior to Undertale Yellow. To me he was merely a side piece to the overall story of Undertale, I disregarded him and focused on the Dreemurr family which in hindsight does include him, just not in the way that I could comprehend back when I was younger. UTY really helped me in understanding his character and realized just why he was so compelling. Now he's one of my top favorite UTDR characters. I still hate this stupid flower though, I wish the worst for him /j /pos.
And Clover, I did not expect to attach myself to this child so much. Clover's personality is rather hard to get unless you were really looking in between the lines and other easily missed dialogue or in-game narration. Thankfully, I am the kind of player that remembers really small details, especially when it comes dialogue and narration. I do admit that I project to Clover a lot, my fics are a testament to that. However, I did enjoy them as a character and protagonist in their own right, removing all biases will not change that. They are one of my comfort characters and favorite characters of all time.
Combining the two, we get Lucky Patch. I do see why most people I've seen in the fandom might not like this dynamic, it's not for everyone especially if you aren't into peeling off layers upon layers of a character. Though, I am really happy that the Lucky Patch enjoyers are much more present here on Tumblr. If you don't look closely or take things at face value, Lucky Patch is a toxic dynamic built on lies and cruelty. Even when looking further, you cannot deny that aspect. But what makes them compelling is that this dynamic is mostly driven by the characters and their psychology. Especially Flowey's. If you do not understand the character, you will most likely miss the intricacies that make them, them.
Clover and Flowey's relationship span across all timelines and routes, so taking their relationship from one route only is not the way to go. That's the reasoning to the most common complaint I see when it comes to them, most non-Lucky Patch enjoyers only see their relationship from one angle or route. Most of the time, they take it from the vengeance route or neutral. My reply to that is that their relationship develops as the routes change. From vengeance, neutral, to pacifist, their dynamic changes in accordance but you can see why when you look closely at the context being given to us throughout their interactions in each route. At the end, you will understand why Flowey lets Clover go. Why he spew his little speech at the end of the true pacifist end.
In other words, I love these tragic doomed toxic codependent flowers so much and I will commit atrocities to defend them.
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papillonaskblog · 6 months ago
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namitha · 2 years ago
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Open your arms to yourself. Comb essential oil through your hair and wear it as a braid. Adorn yourself. Forgive yourself. You are deeply deserving of love and abundance exactly as you are. You are a single rose. You are the summer rain. Forgive yourself for all of it. Not just the easy part. Fall in love with your body again. Move slowly with your eyes on the infinite sea. You are here to live sensually.. Take up full residence in each and every cell.🌻
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sadenees · 2 years ago
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pixxietart · 13 days ago
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It's hard being an otakugirl in a world full of..idk..girls
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kingspacebar · 1 year ago
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Made an ogerpon themed fursona and gave her an ogerpon plush and I love her I love her I love her all my illnesses have been cured shes so everything RAAAAAA
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