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tuesdayscanons · 1 year
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Oh, and Abe's persistent crush on Joan is a coping mechanism.
Literally the last thing on Abe's mind before he got frozen (as well as the first thing on his mind after getting un-frozen) was confessing his love to Joan. It's something familiar that he can cling onto.
Sure, Joan hurt his feelings and left him to find "better" friends (which is her prerogative, don't get me wrong), but Abe is willing to ignore that cognitive dissonance because part of him longs for something familiar. Part of him is still stuck in 2003.
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innovativestruggles · 4 years
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Daisuke & Suzue’s Relationship - A Consolidation Post
Hey gang, so given that we have 2 episodes left and absolutely zero idea as to what Daizue’s relationship is, I have decided to put together a spectrum of information. A lot of the stuff I am posting here have already been speculated to some degree, but it is nice to have it all in one big post where you can see what’s been gathered so far.
When I write about speculations, I always base everything on canonical evidence. Of course, there will be elements of personal bias and opinions intermeshed within, but I will try and separate facts from opinions as much as possible so that you can also draw your own conclusions.
For the purpose of this post, I will exclude all novel content, considering the anime is vastly different from the novel. I will start with the OP and work my way towards Episode 9. Originally I was going to wait until Episode 10 to complete this post, but I decided that it probably wouldn’t matter, considering Daizue’s relationship may not be revealed until Episode 11 and they most likely would be focusing on the battle with Shigemaru in Episode 10 rather than delve any deeper into Daizue’s relationship.
WARNING: This is a long post
The Opening
I want to look at this from the perspective of a complete newbie, who has zero knowledge of the novel or what the fandom is speculating. When looking solely at the OP, this is how it is seen;
1. Suzue is a beautiful character who is heavily sexualised
2. The show centres around a handsome rich boy with unlimited money
3. Selling the idea of sassy detective work
Suzue plays the perfect Bond girl trope. From the way she is shown in the OP in lingerie, to being tied to Daisuke’s car, to being bridal carried at the very end. As a newbie watching this OP, all I see is, hot rich guy and his hot, sexy, gorgeous sidekick woman whom he develops a sexual relationship with. 
If we all take a step back and just see the bigger picture, anyone, including non-anime watchers, who look at this OP would immediately associate Daisuke and Suzue as some sort of couple/love interests or two characters with immense sexual tension. There is no doubt about that.
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So what am I trying to say here? Well, it is clear as day that the FKBU creators were deliberate in the way they showcased Daizue’s relationship. The OP is a foreshadow of what is to come or it implies the way the entire show is set out. 
But y’know...to me, the biggest foreshadow was that bridal carry!
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Oops...wrong one...I meant this one below 😏
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Episode 2
We are skipping Episode 1 as Suzue did not debut until Episode 2.
1. Suzue’s introduction She introduced herself as Suzue Kambe. That was it. Normally, whether it be in an anime or manga, a person would introduce themselves and their relationship (whether directly or indirectly), to another character. This was deliberately left out to keep viewers guessing.
2. Daisuke’s non-existent response Daisuke did not elaborate on his relationship with Suzue. Remember when Haru said something along the lines of “a woman with black hair entered this building,” to which Daisuke replied “woman with black hair you say?” There was no further explanation of who Suzue was to him or how they knew each other, or what sort of relationship they have.
3. Haru’s question was diverted When Haru asked Suzue, “who the hell are you?” Suzue’s response was “I’ve been following Daisuke’s orders...” Again, no further elaboration/explanation. The question was also diverted and she did not properly answer his question.
4. Haru’s assumption Haru made the assumption, as we found out in Episode 4, that Suzue and Daisuke are married. But this was not explored at the time in Episode 2. Again, another deliberate attempt to conceal information, considering we did not even get to see Haru’s assumption of Daizue’s relationship at the time.
5. Suzue’s use of Daisuke’s name No use of nii-san or nee-chan to indicate a sibling relationship and no honourifics were used. The interesting thing here was, Suzue was shown to drop the honourifics from Daisuke’s name in only this episode. Whether it was a mistake or a deliberate attempt to drip feed viewers information at the time, we don’t know. But let’s just say it was a deliberate attempt on the creators part - it needs to make sense. What I’m trying to say here is that Suzue should be in a relationship close enough to Daisuke to be able to drop the honorific but also be in a professional/lower position to continue addressing him with ‘sama.’ So in essence, Daisuke and Suzue’s relationship is most likely more complex than meets the eye.
6. Suzue’s professionalism Daisuke and Suzue’s relationship is too formal and professional to be considered to be some kind of sibling/family/close relative situation. Suzue works for Daisuke. That is the end point. She follows his every instructions and obeys all his orders. Even if she were a Kambe, she has to be a very, very, very distant relative to even submit to that level of obedience. If she were a closer relative but of a lower ranking than Daisuke’s family, there is absolutely no way she would be put in such a subservient position (more on this later).
Based on the 6 above points, personally, what I see is a deliberate attempt to create drama amongst fans lmao! But jokes aside, you cannot take it on face value that they are just relatives (or siblings at the time when it was first released) because as you can see, there are so many clues in this episode alone that does not make any sense.
Episode 3
Suzue only made a brief appearance here but I’d like to add a couple things.
1. Grandma’s focus on Daisuke Grandma barely acknowledged Suzue, and given that Suzue herself is a Kambe, I find this incredibly odd. Grandma was very focused on Daisuke, from his work relationship to his behaviour, and Suzue was...ignored.
2. Grandma explicitly stated to Haru about Daisuke that she is “his grandma” This piece of information was only available in the English subtitles. Remember that in Japanese language, there is no ‘his’ or ‘her.’ It is gender neutral. But I take it that the subtitles are official subtitles which gave us a bit more of a clue into Daizue’s relationship. We know at this stage here that Grandma is only Daisuke’s grandma and not Suzue’s.
With the above 2 points, if Suzue were a sibling or a closer relative, there would be more focus on her too. And I know the show is about Daisuke and Haru, so why would Suzue get any attention? But precisely this is the reason! Because the show centres a lot around the Kambe family conflict and you would think Suzue would be more involved in this conflict if she were closely related. But she is not involved. To me, this just screams outsider. Poor Suzue.
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Episode 4
Alright, here we go on this roller coaster episode. 
1. Suzue addressed Daisuke as ‘Daisuke-sama.’ Kudos to know this because no bloody sibling would say this shit to their elder sibling. So that theory has been written off long ago now. 
Anyways I’d like to point out that there are times where lower members of a family, known as ‘branch’ families, would address the head family with polite honourifics. It’s quite rare nowadays in modern Japan, but in saying that, richer more exclusive families may still tend to do this and some still fight over the title of head of family. So in essence, anyone who succeeds as head of family (together with their immediate family) will obviously be addressed with polite honourifics. 
Just to let you know, branch families can either be closer relatives or very, very distant relatives (so distant that it is negligible they are related to the head family). We don’t know how big the Kambe family is and what the dynamics are like when it comes to the next successor. The bigger the family, the more likely members will want to fight over the title for head of family - usually once when the current head of family and their immediate family are all dead. What I’m trying to point out here is that Suzue may well still be a relative (I’m not gonna deny that during this first point I’m making), considering the above explanation I just made.
2. Daisuke did not elaborate on the type of relative Suzue was to him Another obvious one here. The creators love playing games with the viewers. The fact that Daisuke did not elaborate on his relationship with Suzue was a huge red flag. In the sense that we do not know whether Suzue is a close relative, a distant relative, married into the Kambe family or adopted. The creators are still keeping the viewers guessing!
3. Daisuke’s body language and expression This may be more opinionated base, but you can make judgements for yourself by rewatching the scene again. When Daisuke tells Haru that Suzue is a relative, there was almost a stilted, discomforting demeanour, as if he did not want to discuss the topic. This was heavily exacerbated and reinforced by his tone of voice, which may indicate he could be hiding something?
4. Haru’s assumption that Daisuke and Suzue are married Considering the fandom thinks Daizue look so similar, Haru clearly didn’t. So on his end, they looked more like husband and wife than siblings or relatives..
5. Suzue’s infatuation with Daisuke It was too obsessive. Lovey dovey and just ... plain questionable. I mean, Suzue could still be a relative and do this but the way it was set up was very jarring. As in, Suzue displays a sense of professionalism and obedience towards Daisuke that screams master and servant - not infatuation. 
Normally in anime shows where a character is infatuated over another, there isn’t that simultaneous level of professionalism displayed between the characters. So whether the character is a relative or not, it would be believable. But in Suzue’s case, professionalism + infatuation + relative does not make any sense to me. Also, Do NOT confuse loyalty with professionalism! They are two separate things. Suzue displays both! Characters you see in other anime may display loyalty and infatuation. The biggest incongruence to me with regards to Suzue is the infatuation and professionalism!
From something like this...
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To something like this...
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6. Suzue attended to Daisuke’s everyday needs Honestly if this wasn’t the most jarring thing, I seriously don’t know what was. I swear, not even the lowest member of a branch family would attend to a head family’s every day needs like a servant/maid. It makes no sense. Considering Daisuke is rich enough to have multiple maids that could attend to his every day needs, and that his butler Hattori could probably do what Suzue does, I do not understand the need for Suzue to do all these personal things for Daisuke.
7. The anime creators deliberately did this episode in a way that would confuse fans even more When you add: Daisuke saying “Suzue is a relative” + Suzue’s weird infatuation + addressing Daisuke with ‘sama’ = you are going to get the biggest explosion of confusion. 
It almost felt like the creators wanted to balance things out for the viewers. That is, “I want Daisuke to say Suzue is a relative, but I also don’t want the viewers to think she is a relative either.” There you go, they nailed it with this episode.
8. Daisuke cooked for Suzue At first I didn’t think much of this scene other than Daisuke’s weird way of making up to Suzue for being petulant LOL. But then I thought about how Grandma and butler were just standing there, uninvited to eat food made by Daisuke...it just goes to show that Daizue’s relationship runs a lot deeper than meets the eye. More important than Grandma that is for sure.
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Episodes 5 and 6
Suzue did not make much of an appearance in these two episodes, but what I continued to see was the undying loyalty and continued professional relationship between Daisuke and Suzue. Despite Suzue’s injury in Episode 5, she continued to assist Daisuke (or tried to) in a manner that screams ‘I am forever your servant. Ask and ye shall receive’ kinda vibe LOL 
When she knows Daisuke is safe, Suzue keeps her cool, calm demeanour and powers on with the professionalism, but that weird infatuation kicks in otherwise... what an odd relationship they have...
Episode 7
1. The lack of Suzue in the family photos No Suzue could be seen in the family album. And yes, some people pointed out the baby in the ‘pink’ onesie was Suzue. Could be. But highly doubt it. Someone mentioned that the onesie used to be red but faded over time to a pinkish colour because it has been more than 27 years. That’s also a plausible explanation. Tbh, that entire photo album just screamed Daisuke.
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2. All other photos pointed to the fact that Daisuke was raised as an only child No Suzue present or any indication that she was there at the time those photos were taken
Episode 8
Oh boy, the fun episode LOL
1. You can try and see it both ways here.
a. Suzue was just trying to warn Daisuke about HEUSC. That was all. Nothing else.
b. Definitely fanservice. Suzue could have done this in so many other ways. It was obviously a deliberate part on the creators’ side to bring forth a sexually suggestive scene that really further questions Daizue’s relationship. And the way they zoomed in on certain features (yeah we love their lips almost touching and Suzue’s ass in the air whilst her legs were pressed in between Daisuke’s) perhaps suggested something more explicit between the two (or implied to be in the future), but then again, the zooming in of their lips could just emphasise HEUSC’s ability to lip read rather than anything sensual. But ya know, I reckon it probably was both. 
Again, this whole scene puts more question marks on their relationship as to ‘What kind of relatives are they?’ or ‘Are they really relatives?’ or ‘What is their true relationship?’
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Zooming in on Suzue moving her ass and legs in between Daisuke was completely unnecessary unless they are implying something sexual. Yeah goodbye.
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This was obviously more necessary to describe HEUSC’s ability to lip read...but the way it was zoomed in and emphasised between them...
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2. The creators made Haru see Daizue walk out the room A hugely obvious attempt at forwarding Daizue’s relationship. I mean, putting Haru in that position completely threw the spanner in the works. He was obviously informed by Daisuke that Suzue “is just a relative,” yet he saw them walk out from Daisuke’s bedroom looking all...well...looking like they just had the most amazing time in there. 
Even though it was obvious to us viewers what Haru was thinking, we were never shown Haru questioning the situation in relation to ‘Wait a minute, didn’t Daisuke say she was a relative? What the f did I just see then?’ We don’t get that point of view from Haru so we don’t know what he was speculating in relation to their relationship. I mean, Haru could just be as confused as we were! The only advantage Haru got over us viewers was that he could have just asked them for more clarity around their relationship. Clearly he was just being too polite lmao
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3. Daizue did not attempt to clarify the situation I mean, unless they were both stupid and seriously thought Haru wouldn’t think they got up to no good, despite it being so clear as day that Haru thought otherwise, they did not say anything. Again, another deliberate part on the creators’ side to create further confusion. They really like making Daizue keep their mouths shut when it comes to anything to do with their relationship backstory...
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The creators went one step further and made Daisuke adjust his shirt. LOLOL
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And even further by making Suzue’s hair all messy and dishevelled...
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4. Suzue mentioned ‘your father and mother’ to Daisuke when discussing HEUSC Big red flag here that would completely forever bury the sibling theory. It sounds to me that Daisuke and his family are very separate from Suzue.
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Episode 9
We are in the present now!
1. Daisuke tells Grandma that only the Kambe family, that is, he himself and Grandma, could infiltrate the system This may imply that Suzue is not a true Kambe or she may have been adopted into the family. It would also help discredit the theory that she may be a lower ranking member of the Kambe family/a branch family of the Kambe. It may also imply that Daisuke may have been hiding something from Haru about Suzue when he said ‘Suzue is a relative’ or he was outright lying.
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Other materials
Their appearances
On surface level, they do have some similarities but if you look a bit closer, their eye colour is different (Daisuke’s is a deep blue and Suzue’s is more violet), hair colour is different (Daisuke’s is more black and Suzue’s is more charcoal) and eye and eyebrow shape are different. Tbvh, if they made Suzue’s eye and hair colour completely different, you would see the contrast more. It’s just that the creators deliberately designed the two this way to evoke more confusion.
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Concluding opinion: It is obvious to me that the creators are drip feeding us information about Suzue. Here with this post, even when analysing it on a spectrum, I gathered two things from it over time.
a) Suzue is not a blood relative
b) The relationship between Daisuke and Suzue is a lot more complex
Just remember that Daisuke trusts Suzue with his life. So the level of mutual understanding and trust between the two is incredibly profound.
Again, these are all very speculative and a lot of the fandom have garnered their own information over the course of the episodes. This is what I (and a lot of DaiSuzu fans) have dissected so far. 
Although the entire show is centred around Daisuke and Haru and their detective work with regards to the Kambe family, I feel like Daizue’s relationship is like that mini side story. Whether they will delve into it or not in the next two episodes is anyone’s guess really. As I said earlier, if anything, the reveal would most likely occur at the very end of Episode 11.
Anyways, share your thoughts and feel free to refute! But PLEASE, be respectful.
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P. S. I will keep adding to this if I think of more stuff. It’ll be part of a new “edit section.” I’ll just reblog it so people can see it easier!
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psyga315 · 4 years
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Fixing RWBY Volume 3
Volume 3 is most likely not going to receive a lot of changes due to how this is the lynchpin for which all other RWBY volumes make or break. It is because of Volume 3 that people were either turned off or were re-engaged by the tonal shift and it is because of Volume 3 for which people compare all other finales to, as well as scenes that were clearly made to recapture that feeling from Volume 3.
So, instead of going episode by episode in trying to change plot elements, I’m going to go in broad strokes with this.
Like before, I’d recommend Celtic Phoenix’s Fixing Volume 3 video, though only for the Vytal Festival Tournament and Cinder’s overall plan. After that, all bets are off.
Though, we need to address the Goliath in the room. Midway through Volume 3’s production, Monty Oum passed away and, if Shane Newville is to be believed (which, given how they used Adam’s V3 fight footage for V6, might be more likely), a lot of stuff was changed last minute, much to Shane’s chagrin. Now, some rewrites would simply go for “let’s go with the original plans” route, but I find that would be not only too easy, but would go into the route of “this is what Monty wanted”, which is not only a stupid complaint in more ways than one, but a real slap in the face to his friends.
Instead, I want to go with a somewhat more… meta route. I understand that this is a little more controversial, so if you wish, you may skip this. The long story short is that we’d be getting a 2.5 where we see the Vytal Festival Tournament and its ulterior motive is to get animators that hopefully would not lead to the fight scene drought of Volumes 4 through 5. Also, Jason Liebrecht is Qrow instead of Vic because Vic was busy in another role by the time RWBY finishes up with 2.5.
Those Who Treasure Monty
We begin in our world, on February 2, 2015, news of Monty Oum’s passing breaks out onto the web and a long, lingering shadow is cast over RWBY’s future. Even with multiple confirmations that RWBY will continue, it’s clear that without Monty Oum’s animation, RWBY would eventually slow to a crawl in fight choreography.
So, RT is forced to make a decision. They need to put RWBY off for a year while they figure out how to proceed. To ensure the RWBY fans stay sated and to search for talent that could either replicate or even succeed Oum’s, they create short, five-minute fights set during the Vytal Festival tournament that anyone with an animating talent can use. While some used Poser like RWBY, the fact that Maya is used more gets RT to thinking… Perhaps they should make the switch to Maya.
It’s been stated that Monty insisted on Poser when Maya was a superior option, and I wanted to reflect that in this meta-arc. This would also pave the way for animators to get RT’s spotlight.
In the middle of this hiatus, we’d also get Grimm Eclipse, which, given how not a lot of attention is given to RWBY proper, means that RT would funnel more support into the game’s first year than they did originally. This might also get Gray to try and put his name out by doing Gen:Lock, or at least releasing teasers for it, much like how Monty hyped RWBY through the four trailers.
The fights are in a purgatory of “semi-canon”, where it technically happened, but don’t expect RT to actually call back to it. Much like the DC Comics. HEY-O!
By the end of this hiatus, RT will most likely get their new talent and will definitely cut ties with Sheena and Shane, much like they did originally, but hopefully with less resentment given the cooldown. RWBY would get an October 2016 premiere which would be predated by RWBY vs. ABRN, JNPR vs. BRNZ, and SSSN vs. NDGO being the final three fights for Volume 2.5, done by people who would end up being lead animators for RWBY going forward. The last of the fights will end on a familiar scene.
“Wow, now that was a match!”
“Pheh, that was a mess…”
The latter of which being delivered by Jason Liebrecht. I reason that, in the time RWBY took to process the passing of their brainfather, Vic would most likely have been in another role and be too busy to do Qrow. This would also avoid the… unfortunate circumstance of which we shall not name.
With that, we shall properly proceed to…
RWBY, Volume 3, The Vytal Festival Arc
By the time 3 kicks off, we’re already done with the first round, having already seen most of it from 2.5. We instead open up with Ruby talking to her mom, the final moments of RWBY vs ABRN, and Ruby and her friends celebrating their victory, much like V3. What changes is that JNPR is also celebrating their victory over BRNZ.
However, it’s clear that not everything is bright. Ruby’s still scarred over the Breach, Blake is frustrated with the lack of closure they got and believes that the case is still not over, and Yang is thinking back to what Raven said, to which we get an extended flashback of Raven explaining that she saved her once and that Yang should not expect her to save Yang again and also how Summer was a pawn in a larger game. She doesn’t say much, but she leaves enough information for Yang to know who Summer was a pawn for: Ozpin.
We end Episode with a ship entering Vytal and Qrow deliberately going over to face it as Weiss looks on in a bright smile. Episode 2 kicks off with Qrow vs. Winter, now being a lot more vicious as Qrow believes Ironwood to be putting his jackboot over Vale and strangling what free will the people had remaining. We get to see his bad luck be put into motion as bystanders get attacked by debris and getting injured in the process. His Semblance is literally uncontrollable. However, the trick is to not show that this is his Semblance until Volume 4.
Glynda and Ironwood arrive and chew out both Winter and Qrow for their fighting. Even though they have differing opinions on Ironwood, Qrow is explicitly told that his drunken fits only help to cause fear, something Ozpin does not want in the Vytal Festival. Qrow brings up that Ironwood’s army is bringing fear and while Ozpin agrees, also agrees with Ironwood that it also brings some form of safety. Bottom line with how the scene plays out is that Qrow, while a valuable asset on the battlefield in more ways than one is outright a liability in social situations, made apparent when he hangs out with his niece(s) and only makes a bad situation worse by making his “cut one Taijitu head and now the other one calls the shots” speech sound way worse than it sounds.
However, there’s also subtle nods that imply that the only reason he’s such a drunken wreck with social skills so bad that he’s actively making things worse is because of the trauma he received from his days of being in STRQ and serving Oz. Basically, downplay the comedy of Qrow being drunk and show off that Qrow being drunk is a bad thing like in Volume 6.
Winter also has her hangups. Because of being raised by her abusive father, Winter inherited a bit of that. Think the DC Comics version of Willow. Weiss notably sees just how much like her father Winter’s become and Winter tells her that her ambition of being a Huntress has done more harm than good, bringing up her scar. Winter then tells her why she came. Not just to oversee the deployment of new robots, but also to warn Weiss. Jacques cutting Weiss off and constantly calling her is his way of saying “Okay, this is getting out of hand, come home or I will take you myself.” This kinda worries Weiss quite a bit.
The doubles match are the ones that are a major focus for episodes 3 & 4, showcasing Yang and Weiss vs. Neon and Flynt, Nora and Pyrrha vs. Sun and Neptune, Mercury and Emerald vs. Coco and Yatsuhashi, and Penny and Ciel vs. some random members of CRDL. Not a lot of changes here. With a whole episode to ourselves, we can spend that to see our cast one final time before the plot throws them into hell. Weiss talks to Ruby about her father, she assures her that RWBY will not leave her side. Blake tells Yang about her worries for the White Fang, especially since her name had been publicized by the tournament, even knowing that Yang is hiding something.
We end the episode with Glynda asking Ozpin if he’s sure about something and he reassures her that time is of the essence and that they have no other option. “The only one with a choice will be her.” Before we cut to Pyrrha.
Episode 6 is unaltered, except there’s a heavier emphasis of Ozpin pushing the issue onto Pyrrha and making it clear that it’s making her mentally unstable.
RWBY, Volume 3, The Fall of Beacon
Okay, the only thing that changes for Episode 7? NO BLACK SCREENS! It works for some mystery with the Grimm and Salem, but for meeting Roman?! So, no black screen. If you need to add mystery, just add dark shadows and for the Grimm, glowing eyes. The biggest change would be how Cinder interacts with Adam. Obviously, we keep how he acts in the flashback… But we get a bonus scene of Cinder talking to Adam and manipulating him into resenting Blake for leaving him. Boom. We got our transition covered.
The only change for Episode 8 is that Blake doesn’t go “lol, okay” when she gets Yang to say she’s sorry for kneecapping Mercury. In fact, she expresses doubt on Yang and does not change her mind about it, believing that the thing she was hiding had something to do with injuring Mercury. We end Episode 8 not with Ruby encountering Mercury, but Hazel.
Episode 9 remains relatively unchanged, as it’s the necessary lynchpin to cause the Fall of Beacon. Really, most of the final act can remain unchanged for the most part, save for some quality of life changes like “how come no one called out Emerald when she was in the middle of the crowd even though they were told that her team went home?” or all those tiny nitpicks that really makes Cinder’s plan fall apart if you think too hard about it.
The most that changes is that Hazel fights Ruby reluctantly. Obviously, he doesn’t want to fight Gretchen’s partner. Cinder would have no idea Ruby’s incompetence led to Gretchen’s death, so Hazel wouldn’t use that to guilt trip Ruby. He does, however, rant about the flawed system that Ozpin has made and it’s clear that this is him talking about how flawed the system is, not Cinder whispering sweet nothings in his ear. He lets Ruby go just as the fight between Pyrrha and Penny ends.
Yeah, this still takes place despite Cinder not knowing, since she lacks her virus for now. Cinder is smart and is able to put two and two together when she sees that Penny is doing a lot of the heavy lifting during her fights. I mean, it was obvious to us that she was a robot from Volume 1, Cinder didn’t need no fancy scroll to tell her “hey, Penny’s a robot.”
I should add that, throughout the tournament, Cinder had been rigging the tournament so that it’d come down to Vale vs. Atlas, using the narrative of the Breach to set the stage. She’s also making sure the losses for Mistral and Vacuo sting so the Grimm get attracted sooner. How is she doing this? Via the backdoor program she had. As I said previously, the virus feigns being dead and can only be reactivated by a backdoor program. However, this isn’t the full extent. Cinder is basically using the program to activate a few nodes in the CCT to rig the randomizer enough so that no one stops and goes “wait, this is fishy”. It doesn’t help that the way the tournament is held, each Kingdom representative is guaranteed to face an opposing Kingdom once per round, so if one Kingdom was really good, they’ll overcrowd the subsequent doubles and finals. Two Kingdoms? Then you essentially guarantee that the rest of the fights can be nothing but Kingdom A vs. Kingdom B.
Penny is killed and this becomes the straw that broke the camel’s back. I also would make it so that her big speech, while imposing and setting the tone for the fall, doesn’t sound like “I’m the big bad evil guy and I’m going to announce my terrorist attack!” Also, Adam can get involved too, saying how humans are so sad over a dead robot, but when it’s a Faunus, no one gives a crap, white guilting the crowd. When the Beacon staff cut the feed, Cinder goes “OMG! CENSORSHIP!” and riles up the crowd that way. Basically, her speech causes fear and panic. The Grimm and White Fang attack, we kick off the Fall of Beacon Arc.
One major change to kick off the finale: Port and Oobleck are killed. It doesn’t have to be shown, but it would be implied as Ozpin notices that he lost contact of the two. Really, this is your chance to get rid of all the characters that won’t make an appearance in later Volumes or wouldn’t really matter. After all, there will be no rest or love. Hell, kill off CFVY while you’re at it. Hammer home that the dark tone is here to stay. Also, the backdoor is the thing Roman puts on that ship and thus reactivates the virus.
Of course, the major change is Adam’s fight with Blake, since they fought before. Blake tries desperately to ask why he’s hurting people, but Adam gives her his response: “Because this world doesn’t reward the kind-hearted people. You should know that after what happened to your father!” This puts Blake in a lot of fear and anxiety, requiring Yang to interfere. The one thing I’ll change from this is that Adam does not one-shot Yang, because that horribly unbalances him in the grand scheme of things. Instead, he relies more on manipulation to put Yang in the absolute worst spot throughout the fight, absorbing the increased blows he got from Yang before letting it all out in his Moonslice, taking off her arm.
The other major thing I’d change is the handling of Pyrrha. The bit where they’re underground changes immensely as Ozpin explicitly instructs Jaune to wait by the door, thus separating him from Pyrrha. Ozpin and Pyrrha go to the pods, but as Pyrrha begins to have second thoughts, Ozpin activates the switch as Pyrrha screams in pain.
Meanwhile, Jaune finds Cinder entering the chamber via a superhero landing (No one’s gonna acknowledge that she managed to follow the group down a longass shaft?) and as Jaune tries to fight Cinder, realizing she’s the one who organized all of this, she tells him “I didn’t cause this… I merely exposed Ozpin for what he truly is… Arrogant and willing do to anything to win.” Jaune pieces together what Cinder could possibly mean and enters the chamber, seeing Pyrrha in pain. Just then, Cinder kills Amber and takes her power.
Ozpin decides to hold Cinder off while Jaune and Pyrrha go to get help. While this will be revealed in Volume 5, it’ll be revealed that Ozpin threw his battle with Cinder so that, not only would he reincarnate quicker, but also to avoid the Council chewing his ass out. This leads to the consequence of Cinder forcing Pyrrha’s hand, however…
Like with the show, Pyrrha fights Cinder by herself since Jaune did enough. We’ll have him try to contact Glynda and the others, but they’re unfortunately busy and it’s this poor communication that causes Jaune to panic call Weiss. The fight proceeds like normal and Pyrrha is killed by Cinder, making her sacrifice seemingly in vain before Ruby, having enough with all this bullshit, Silver Eyes the fuck out of Cinder and the Dragon, turning the latter to stone and Cinder into a cripple.
Ending remains the same, but give a lot more emphasis on Ruby and Yang coping with the new change and the losses of their friends. One day, Jaune comes by and asks Ruby if she and Yang would like to accompany them to Mistral, figuring that Cinder came from there and that they’d be able to find some answers. Ruby, having had enough of moping around, leaves much to her father’s chagrin. Salem’s speech remains the same and we get two stingers, split by Divide and Cold. Divide’s credits would be for the Volume and Cold would be for all the animators who helped out during Volume 2.5 and a tribute to Monty. The first stinger is Qrow following RNJR in bird form, the second is Cinder, literally on the edge of death before the parasite Grimm begins to heal and nurture her. She’s furious that Ruby managed to hurt her and this negative emotion causes a Grimm to stalk her. She tries to sing to it, but her voice gives out a rasp.
Just as the Grimm is about to kill her, it gets killed by an unknown assailant, who just scoffs to Cinder. We don’t know who it is, but the shadow of a scorpion’s tail and the creepy voice pretty much gives those with foresight a good idea who he is: “Poor, poor little girl… Bit off more than you can chew, hmmm?” before cutting to black with him giggling.
DVD Extra
This would basically be an encore of Volume 2.5, where animators that nearly made the cut were invited to animate doubles and finals battles and even have a speculative RWBY vs. JNPR battle for ol’ time’s sake.
And that’s RWBY Volume 3 tweaked. Only two more left to go and they’re the most… interesting ones to tweak. Well, with this isolation, I might as well give a little bit of time to this…
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2-4, 8-13, 19, 27. Also include Gnizana (our setting), and skip the Thuvians for 19 since you already answered that for them, unless their answers have changed.
2. How good are they at tongue twisters?
Georg is fairly good - they’re very deliberate in their speech, so they rarely get tripped up.
Diesel is really fucking bad. They have trouble speaking normally sometimes, tongue twisters are right out.
Vita doesn’t have any difficulty with them due her programming.
Bivir would hate anyone who asked them to do a tongue twister automatically, and that effect is only magnified if they are asked to do it in common. They have a lot of pride, and can’t back down from a challenge, but they’re also too proud to fail miserably.
Alex isn’t great at them, but doesn’t care.
Seva likes them, but isn’t good at them. They can laugh at their attempts.
Damien is bad at them, because he’s not incredible at talking.
Desdemona is good at them, but doesn’t speak fast enough for being good at them to count, really.
Shian is good at them, but can’t do them with other people around, bc they get flustered.
Niall uses them regularly in hopes he’d get better at talking. It didn’t work.
Gnizana is very fluid with them.
3. Biggest regret?
I feel like we’ve bene over this w everyone but Gnizana, so…
Gnizana’s currently very much regretting deciding to tag along with Aster.
4. Are they formally trained or have they gone through a more organic learning experience for their skillset?
Georg is organically trained - most of their sorcerous skills were honed on the road, and the result of natural growth.
Diesel developed their skillset on the run - there’s little else to develop. 
Vita studied hard to develop her skills. 
Bivir was formally trained in herbalism and archery both.
Alex was formally trained in swordsmanship and equestrianism.
Seva is a bit of an odd mix - they started thieving and sneaking on the streets, but later had those skills formally honed. 
Damien is self-taught.
Desdemona learned organically. She’s a very organic sort of person.
Shian was formally trained in swordsmanship and magic both.
Niall was formally trained in wizardry
Gnizana’s magic comes naturally to her.
8. Paper or plastic?
plastic doesn’t exist in this setting so everyone considers paper.
9. What’s their dump stat?
Georg’s is Strength and Constitution, both of which they’ve got little of. 
Diesel’s is constituion, which makes sense because they’re in a sorry state right now.
Vita’s is Wisdom, but even that is neutral because she’s very well rounded. 
Bivir rolled well, so they don’t really have a dump stat - their lowest scores are Wis and Con, but even those are at +1.
Alex ‘s dump stat is Wis, he’s a foolish boy. 
Seva’s dump stat is Charisma. They’re just so abrasive that their charisma is -4…
Damien’s dump stats is Charisma and Strength. He’s not very strong or very charming, but he’s got a lot of heart. 
Desdemona’s dump stat is Charisma. That aura of general heebie jeebies doesn’t do her any favors.
Shian’s dump stat is wisdom - they haven’t been allowed to have any life experience.
Niall’s dump stat is charisma. He just has a breakdown when people try to talk to him.
Gnizana’s dump stat is Strength. She never had to hone it, because she’s like that.
10. What’s their best stat?
Georg is wholeheartedly charming as well as physically beautiful - Charisma.
Diesel, while not as charming, is bluntly honest and well intentioned, and they do their best for others - Charisma.
Vita is inexperienced, but she absorbs any information at inhuman rates. Intelligence.
Bivir has been honing their speed their whole life, as a dancer and hunter, Dexterity. 
Alex has honed his strength for many years, and it’s paid off. Strength.
Seva is of many skills - they’re well educated, but what gets them by is being a sneaky sneaky. Dexterity and Intelligence are tied.
Damien has been quietly practicing his speed in his basement for many years now - Dexterity.
Desdemona is an old soul, and she’s always been very observant and wise. Wisdom.
Shian is skilled and well-rounded, but they’ve focused great effort into their wizardly talents. Intelligence.
Niall has been studying wizardry his whole life. Intelligence.
Gnizana is a gnome of class, poise and beauty. Charisma.
11. What is their favorite anime?
Georg would really dig Spirited Away.
Diesel would love pre-timeskip Gurren Lagann.
Vita would very much like Madoka Magica - I cant imagine her not being really into Madoka Magica. 
Bivir would like Magi, but prefer the anime because the manga got very disappointing after the timeskip since it set up the final boss to be capitalism and then it wasn’t. 
Alex would be very into fullmetal alchemist. Short blonde boys missing limbs representation!
Seva would like Heroic Legend Of Arslan a lot - historical, about companionship, about politics, and about elite soldiers and finding the right cause. It’d be therapeutic.
Damien would love Boku No Hero Academia very much.
Desdemona would love Kyoukai no Kanata. I’ve only seen one episode of it but I know she’d love it. I should pick it back up…
Shian would like Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun. They love a good laugh. 
Niall is a very sentimental sort and would very much love Clannad and After Story
Gnizana would like, while a movie, Kiki’s Delivery Service. It’d remind her of her childhood, having trouble getting her magic working on her side.
12. What’s their favorite beverage?
Georg likes milkshakes, but ones that aren’t cold. They’re weak to temperature.
Diesel likes apple juice. 
Vita doesn’t drink.
Bivir likes wine.
Alex doesn’t have a preference, but hates milk.
Seva likes mead.
Damien likes milk.
Desdemona loves black tea.
Shian likes smoothies.
Niall likes green tea.
Gnizana loves coffee.
13. If they can use magic, what’s their favorite spell?
Been over this for most everyone but there’s some newcomers to the list!
Desdemona favors Speak With Dead - in her line of work, it was extremely helpful and in common use.
Shian favors molten orb. Nothing like a bowling ball made of molten metal to make people regret fucking with your crew.
Niall favors Aura of the Unremarkable - an enchantment spell allowing one’s actions to seem innocuous, even if they are absolutely bizarre. 
Gnizana favors Electrical Ray (one of her bloodline spells), but wishes her bloodline abilities were more useful in the feywild.
19. They have to go live on a deserted island. They can take one thing and one person. What do they take?
Georg wouldn’t want to take anyone - they can make it on a desert island on their own, and they don’t want their friends to hate them for taking someone on a desert island. They’d want a hatchet.
Diesel wouldn’t know who to take. Probably Evelynn. They’d also bring a good book. A very good book.
Seva wouldn’t take anyone, and they’d just want a good knife.
Damien would want his gun, and he’d bring someone who’s been through worse, likely Shian.
Desdemona would bring Aster, because she likes him and he could swim away if he didn’t want to be there. She’d bring a large chunk of flint for making fires and tools with.
Shian would bring a small boat, and someone who knows how to navigate.
Niall already lives on a deserted island with one other person. 
Gnizana would bring a random, wealthy stranger and a very nice dress which shows her cleavage off. She would convince the wealthy stranger to marry her, and then she’d work towards getting off the island.
27. They’re at a tavern. They bump into a big burly angry drunk with a combative attitude. What happens? 
Answered for most everyone, but.
Gnizana would roll to seduce him.
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Graduation Day Part 1
Well, here we go. I’ll be skipping the opening paragraph next episode, since it’s a two-parter. But… Graduation Day. Time for the Ascension. They still don’t know what demon the Mayor is going to turn into. Is that a problem? 1. I like the pinkish graduation caps and gowns. I graduated in June 1999 in an outdoor football field in southeast Louisiana, and had to wear black. It was terrible. 2. “You’ve just mastered the power of positive giving up!” 3. Xander is convinced it’s three weeks before his retirement, and he’s in a cop drama. 4. Harmony and Willow are having that weird graduation thing where you suddenly like people you’ve never liked. 5. If a soda machine gives me Coke when I ask for root beer, I am angry forever. 6. The Mayor is giving the commencement speech at graduation. 7. Lester is doomed. Very doomed. 8. “Guest starring Kristine Sutherland.” 9. Wow. Cute dress, Faith. “Any boys who manage to survive will be lining up to ask you out.” 10. The Mayor is human. That’s part of what makes him so frightening. He’s immortal and sold his soul a very long time ago, and he’s evil through and through, but he manages to be all of that while still having a conscience and the full set of human emotions. His love for Faith is very paternal. It’s twisted and built on him using her for her capacity for violence, but it’s also real, and that’s terrifying. 11. Percy got a good grade on his history final. 12. Xander is late for class. 13. They’re playing Hangman. And Xander is being asked out by Anyanka. She’s willing to watch sports with him. 14. Anyanka knows what the Ascension is. And Giles and Wesley are fencing. 15. “Faith has you at a disadvantage, Buffy.” “Because I’m not crazy, or because I don’t kill people?” “Both, actually.” 16. Anyanka: “You’ve never seen a demon.” Buffy: “Excuse me. Killing them professionally, four years running.” Anyanka: “All the demons that walk the Earth are tainted, are human hybrids like vampires. The Ascension means that a human becomes pure demon. There’s a difference.” 17. The Mayor made a promise to Snyder. I expect this to end badly. 18. Giles just stabbed the Mayor. It didn’t work, but it was satisfying. 19. The scene of the Mayor confronting them in the library was fascinating. 20. Cordy and Xander are skipping fifth period together. 21. “What, is some terrible demon going to attack the school?” 22. “You stay, you get me killed.” Well done, Buffy. 23. Amy Status: Still a rat. 24. “Our lives are different than other people’s.” 25. “Would it help you if I panic?” “Yes! It would be swell!” 26. And now Oz and Willow are going to have sex. In front of Amy. 27. Buffy is at Lester’s house. And so’s Angel. They have a report on lava bed excavation. 28. “This is my last office romance.” 29. Angel just got shot. With a giant arrow, but not through the heart. Faith missed his heart on purpose. 30. Angel fainted. Faith poisoned him. Wesley’s Council contacts are actually possibly going to be helpful. 31. I love how delighted the Mayor is at Faith’s delight at him eating spiders. “You’re wicked gross!” 32. Faith’s story about jumping off rocks is why she was Chosen. 33. “When I think that something bad could happen to you, I feel bad inside.” 34. Buffy is taking care of Angel. He doesn’t look great. 35. “This is mutiny.” “I like to think of it as graduation.” 36. “Come on, guys. The suspense is killing Angel.” 37. Did the Mayor tell Faith that the poison was cured by drinking a Slayer’s blood? Because good God did he put her at risk. 38. Is that the knife Faith left in the spider on the wall? The seedy mall knife the Mayor gave her? 39. Huh. The Mayor might not know. 40. Fight time! Probably not going to write many notes during it. 41. The unfoldy page of the picture of Olvikam is brilliant. 42. As is the Mayor eating his spiders. 43. “Plus these things are high in fiber. What’s the fun in becoming an immortal demon if you’re not regular?” 44. Buffy stabs Faith; Faith falls in a truck that drives her away deliberately. Notes on the fight in the Overall. Overall: Which is now! This last big fight between Buffy and Faith was the highlight of the episode, and anchored it well. The part in the apartment was really, really good - maybe better than their fights earlier in the season - but the part on the balcony was less so. There’s a professional wrestling match type, the strap match. It’s popular with certain bookers, mostly from the South, because it tends to be violent, but it also tends not to be very GOOD. It involves attaching two wrestlers together with a leather strap or a chain or a bullrope and making them fight while trying to touch the corners of the ring. The thing is, the strap keeps them from actually moving around in the space in which the match is happening, which usually makes for a far less interesting affair. Hence the problem with the second half of this fight - for most of it, Buffy and Faith, who are both very dynamic, athletic fighters, are chained together with a pair of handcuffs, so most of what they can do is limited to kinda halfway flinging each other around. It’s just not as fun to watch. The episode as a whole, thankfully, is brilliant, with familiar high school stuff at the beginning building to Buffy’s own graduation from working under the Council’s care by the end. That particular moment would probably have been more effective had the Council offered more help in return for loyalty earlier in the season, instead of compelling Giles to poison Buffy then firing him anyway, but within the episode it was very powerful.
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