#“james was in love with lily blah blah blah” he also harassed her canonically i for one much prefer fanon
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Oh my goddddd. Do people not know fandom edict??? If you want to talk shit on a ship you don't go out of your way to make sure people who like that ship see it, you're not going to change their minds just by adding in the fact it 'wouldn't make sense' or 'isn't realistic'
You know what also doesn't make sense and isn't realistic? Fucking wizards. Get off your JKR high horse.
#she made it canon that wizards didn't use any sort of plumbing for longer then they needed to simply because it was a 'muggle invention'#nothing in her delusional world makes sense#let people have fun and ship what they want to#(as long as its legal obv)#im sorry for the small rant i just hate people not having proper fandom edict because its just basic common sense#.tspeaks#harry potter#marauders#marauders era#dead gay wizards#dead wizards from the 70s#“james was in love with lily blah blah blah” he also harassed her canonically i for one much prefer fanon
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*clears throat* okay-
wtf is this discourse bro 💀💀 "go outside and touch grass" yall are arguing over whether or not..fictional crack fanon ships are misogynistic. like this is absolutely a discussion but the issue here is foundational, jegulus and wolfstar may often portray misogynistic and fetishizing behaviors but that is literally the bones of modern fandom culture. to ignore the canon in favor of more creative fan-made interpretations or depictions, you are inherently subjecting these fanworks to criticism regarding the ethics behind it.
if you are going to have this cake (say mlm ships are misogynistic) you need to put the fork down (stop consuming most fan-content)
this may seem like a wild jump to make but ill use a similar fandom that im more familiar with to illustrate this 'slippery slope'
i love the percy jackson fandom! i have grown up on those books. but here's a list of non-canon ships and their criticisms.
percico; usually paints annabeth as biphobic or erases her from the narrative entirely. also ignores that nico explicitly stated that he doesn't like percy. (percy/nico - mlm)
jasico; disregards character dynamics and forces the gay character into a harmful stereotype. (jason/nico - mlm)
jercy(.?); pushes harmful narratives that two men are not allowed to have an emotionally healthy friendship without being gay. (percy/jason - mlm)
pipabeth(??); fetishizes wlw relationships, is often only a companion to an mlm ship, and drags these characters so far out if themselves that they are barely recognizable so they feed into a palatable lesbian dynamic. (piper/annabeth - wlw)
jiper; disregards canon characters and forces piper to be straight. (jason/piper - wlm)
and for gits and shiggles, brason; supports the unhealthy idea that since he didn't "get the girl" he is undeserving of an actual relationship (jason/ a literal brick - ml🧱)
none of these ships are actually bad, in fact, most are handled very nicely even if i dont personally ship it but, they all have massive ethical flaws.
do you see my point here?
and if you're wondering why i care especially since ive stated multiple times that im only really on marauders tumblr bc jegulus is solangelo w better quality fics and i do not know very much abt harry potter...kick.
this is basically a line-for-line bar-for-bar repeat of the klance vs allurance battle of 2018, of which i had to explain to people that every one of the ships for vld is awful and by participating in shipping of any sort you are being willfully ignorant to the unethical/immoral nature of pretty much any ship ever.
so in conclusion, do i give a shit? absolutely fucking not. do i still think that this is the most absurd form of performative activism ive ever seen and possibly thinly veiled homophobia? yeah. and fyi... no one fucking cares, these are fake people who have 0 canon personalities at all, all of them are dead, and the author is a raging transphobe.
take a breath, go outside, and if you truly want to criticize behavior in the marauders, you should probably start with the insane amount of incest- like seriously guys wtf is going on?? like ik my fandoms may not be perfect but i couldve gone my entire life without reading the tag "star crossed brothers" while im looking for a cute little solangelo jegulus fic
im joking (..kind of) but seriously dude, if you don't like something in a fandom, just avoid it. theres no point in tearing people down over fictional injustices. unless a ship is fundamentally immoral (im looking at you mcu starker 👀) it's a futile argument.
i could tell you that jily is a disgusting display of harassment and manipulation in which james refuses to respect lily's wishes and blah blah blah but you dont care, it's nothing jily shippers haven't heard a million times before.
i think that ron and hermione are terrible for eachother because they almost constantly fight and appear to hate one another not to mention that ron is immature and something something it doesn't matter.
i could write an actual proper essay on this if you'd like but i think you get the gist.
pov: marauders fans when you call them out on their thinly veiled misogyny (grow the fuck up maybe) , hidden quite terribly behind the continued fetishisation of mlm relationships (which is also fucking weird seek therapy maybe)
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What I Think About Some Canon and Fanon Ships!!
Canon:
Romione (ron x hermione): Cute!! they have been through so much together and just fit together. Their fans are also really nice and pure (except for some Lavender haters)!! I do have different characters that I ship with them more (fanonically) but for canon, they are really good together!! 8.5/10
Hinny (ginny x harry): Meh.....not my most favorite ship ever but still pretty cute.....I think it was just kinda too stereotypical (his best friend’s sister has a crush on him) blah, blah, blah! I think it would’ve been better if Ginny was just more confident and independent (like she was in the books) but overall it’s a pretty decent ship. 6.5/10
Remadora (tonks x remus) : Pretty good but I ship wolfstar!! I honesty think Tonks was lesbian or aroace or something like that, and Remus was prolly bi/gay. It still was a cute ship and we got Teddy Lupin out of it, so no complaints there. I wish it would've been developed more because it didn't have the best storyline/backstory. Overall a pretty good ship tho! 6.8/10
Bleur (fleur x bill): I really liked this ship!! Especially how Fleur said the whole line after Bill became a werewolf (cuz that was perfection)! I'm kinda sad we don't get to see a lot of this ship in the books/movies but it's still great! 9/10
Charry (cho x harry): One of my least favorite canon ships tbh......cho wasn't (emotionally) in the best place after Cedric's death so I have no idea why she would want another relationship so fast!! also, she was quite jealous and untrustworthy of harry (after the whole harry/hermione debacle) which isn't the best thing to be in a relationship....3.9/10
Voldytrix (voldemort x bellatrix): ugghhh yuckkkkk.....this is like one of the main reasons I hated the book cursed child....also, voldy-moldy had no "heart" so he couldn't "love" and Bellatrix only "loved" him not her own husband.....this ship was kinda just one-sided so was just a horrible ship.....why was this even a thing?! -∞/10
Deanevra (dean x ginny): I think this was a pretty cute ship while it lasted. The only thing that was kinda weird was how they broke up......ginny broke up with him because he was helping her get through a door....it kinda looked like j.k.rowling (who I do not support btw) was trying to make it misogynistic but it just ended up weird...nonetheless, it was a nice ship while it lasted. 7/10
Jily (james x lily): This is one of the best canon ships out there, everyone knows that.....the only thing I really didn't like about this ship was how James kept pursuing Lily, even when she said no......it's supposed to be romantic but it kinda edges the line of harassment.....and James was a bully soooooo......but I liked the ship when they were out of Hogwarts....then it was cute and pureeee!! 8.3/10
Marthur (molly x arthur): this ship is freaking awesome!!! it really highlights was a good parent should be to their children (not all the time tho.......*hint, hint*, percyyyy) overall a 9.1/10
now for Fanon
Perciver (Percy x Oliver): THIS IS MY FAVORITE SHIP OF ALL TIME!! and it has sooo much potential!! it could be enemies to lovers, jock x nerd, muggle au, fake dating, friends to lovers, soulmates, there was only one bed, etc.....and omgtheywereroomatesssss.....they probably aren't the very most affectionate in person but just by themselves they are!! overall, I think they compliment each other very well and are just two adorkable boys!! ∞/10
Deamus (seamus x dean): such a pure ship oml.....I think it would've taken some time for them to realize they were bi/gay/queer and liked boys, but when they did, they would be really affectionate and stuff 10/10
Linny (Luna x Ginny): such a pure ship too!! this gives me jock x nerd vibes kinda like percy and Oliver, and is probably such a cute ship. I doubt they would be overly affectionate like deamus but probably would be more affectionate then perciver. I think this would be the start of ginny's bisexual days 8.9/10
Rarry (Ron x Harry): kinda like a friends to lovers thing going on!! I think they would compliment each other very well (even tho they had their differences) and would be a great ship!! 8.7/10
Dramione (Draco x Hermione): No, just no. I don't think I would want by bully to be my boyfriend/crush unless he completely changed himself (which I do not think Draco did)......so no.....but it's better than like Snamione/Snarry/Sneville 1.2/10
Snamione (Snape x Hermione): No again. He bullied her a lot, and was like 2-3 times her age (I get that some people like that thing but I don't so sorry) so nooo 0.9/10
Snarry (Harry x Snape): he bullied him even more than he bullied Hermione....not my ship so sorry about that 0.5/10
Sneville (Neville x Snape): No, no, no, no!! no way.....Snape bullied Neville the fucking most out of everyone else and Neville was deathly afraid of Snape (Snape was his boggart in 3rd year) so no 0.1/10
Percivercus (Marcus x Oliver x Percy): finally!! a poly ship!! I think ship would be really cute cuz it has friends to lovers and enemies to lovers all in one!! it has lots of potential, much like perciver, so cute ship!! I think this is a really good poly ship and I rate it 9.5/10
Dreville (Neville x Draco): eh....I’m not really sure how to feel about this....if Draco is the same brat he was at school then it’s a big fat no, if he’s “redeemed” or trying to, then maybe? It’s better than Drarry and Dramione, at least. 4.3/10
Wolfstar (Remus x Sirius): Absolute beauty of a ship. It’s probably my 2 or 3rd most favorite fanon ship! they really complement each other and are just so cute!! Though it must’ve hurt for Remus when he thought/realized Sirius was a spy (cuz he didn’t have all the facts)!! 9.1/10
I’ll post the rest later because I’m bored so if you have more ships u want me to react to ig, just reply/reblog!! Byeee! Have a good day/night!!
@pluto-the-planet1 wanted me to do pavender (Parvati x lavender) so here you go!! pavender is so cute!! just two lesbians being queens! I literally love them, so adorableee! and I love reading fics about them that include deamus (dean x seamus)!! I rate it a 8.9/10
@princessdiana1967 wanted me to do roneville (Neville x Ron) so here ya go! roneville is really cute! two shy boys being adorable tbh! I feel like both of them would have a hard time expressing feelings but when they did, it was genuine! They’re literally so pure oml! I rate it a 9.2/10
#hp ships#lot of them#I really don’t want to tag all of them#so here’s a few#deamus#dreville#percivercus#perciver#remadora#wolfstar#and there’s a lot more#but I’m lazy#so sorry#:(
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