#‘go ahead and lay the blame/talk of virtue talk of sin/ wouldn’t you have done the same/ in her shoes? in her skin?

[ookaookaooka]

oh my god the fates in hadestown are a greek chorus. how did i not realize this sooner i’ve listened to that musical a dozen times

[werewolfpdfs]

go ahead and lay the blame talk of virtue talk of sin wouldn’t you have done the same in her shoes in her skin you can have your principles when you have a bellyful but hunger has a way with you there’s no telling what you’re gonna do…

[eerna]

Go ahead and lay the blame Talk of virtue, talk of sin Wouldn't you have done the same? In her shoes, in her skin

Get the print here!

[raayllum]

rayllum + hadestown: gone, i’m gone

Oh, the way is dark and long But I’m already gone... (spoken) I’m gone [FATES] Go ahead and lay the blame Talk of virtue Talk of sin Wouldn’t you have done the same? In her shoes In her skin?

[betterratarchive]

META.          ( internalized homophobia ; the marauders ; the metaphorical closet )     so i’ve said before that peter is homoromantic and demisexual in the past. this post is about his own feelings about that, how he handles that internally, externally, and the focal point of this, why he is closeted to his closest friends in any instance where his coming out has not been plotted between the other mun and i. i should also state now that i do not ship w/olfs/tar nor do i accept it as a facet of canon and therefore will not touch on it all.

self and society.     peter’s sense of self is already severely underdeveloped when he attends hogwarts. there’s an immense amount of growing he has to do in the early days at a rather rapid pace, and conjoined with the fact that he’s only eleven years old and so his romantic/sexual feelings are still largely in development and rather unimportant to him at that time.

     it’s around thirteen it starts to occur to him that his feelings about his fellow marauders aren’t entirely brotherly. it starts as just admiring that they’re handsome, but over time it’s harder to tell exactly what that admiration is and where it stems from. by then other boys have started to take interest in girls and so he pretends he feels the same way without really contributing anything to the topic at hand. he lacks any and all attraction to girls, and he internally thinks that there’s something wrong with him for it. keep in mind that it is 1975. homosexual acts were only partially decriminalized in 1967, and wouldn’t be entirely decriminalized until 2000, nor would it have an equal age of consent until 1997. peter, growing up largely outside muggle london, was exposed to highly homophobic views and taught to believe by society that differing from heteronormativity was not only scandalous, but unlawful as the restrictions placed on homosexual couples of the time were so strict.

     he genuinely tries to fight what he’s been taught to consider ‘deviant urges’ and beats himself up over it. at fifteen, he forces himself to have sex for the first time with another fifth year, one born female. it’s messy, and uncomfortable for both parties. he hates every minute of it and forces himself through it anyways. he does tell the marauders about this happening. not in detail, or that it was awful, but that it happened as a sort of way of reaffirming his public persona of compulsory heterosexuality. it’s at this point he’s forced to somewhat confront his homosexuality but even then he still tries to fight it while sorting out his feelings for each of the marauders.

     the feelings he harbors for each of the marauders are not entirely platonic. the amount of which and how are entirely nuanced though based upon the time frame and his relationship with each of them. his attraction to sirius is largely rooted in physical attraction. sirius is very physically attractive in his eyes, but the upbringing he’s had ( despite the way he rises above the teachings his family gave ) makes peter uncomfortable at times. james, once again, is very physically attractive to peter and the fact he plays quidditch certainly does not hurt in terms of his physique. paired with his infectious charisma, it’s hard for peter not to fall into line and then into attraction. finally, there’s remus, who is arguably the marauder he was closest to. there were times when james and sirius would be off doing something, and it would leave him alone in the dorms with remus. these nights were generally rather quiet, or held quiet conversation that fueled his attractions and made him feel more comfortable with remus than any of the others. it’s during this time, he begins to silently fall in love with remus but he can’t/won’t admit this to himself and only begrudgingly admits to himself that his feelings for remus are stronger than his feelings for the others in terms of romantic thought. despite these feelings however, he still feels a strong bond with all of them as they are his closest friends before he considers them to be anything else. as he comes to accept that he is in fact gay, he decides not to tell them, for reasons that are individualized to each of them. 

remus.     remus seems to him at first like the most likely one to reveal his secret to, until he considers it further. the most obvious reason that he has for keeping it concealed is that he has enough on his plate with his furry ( not so little ) problem. even with that consideration taken completely off of the table, he is wildly paranoid about losing the marauders as friends, but especially so with remus. because of his upbringing, he expects that should he tell anyone or should they catch an inkling of it, they will violently reject him for it. the fact that peter’s feelings are strongest for him makes this a very difficult situation that he decides to avoid rather than confront.

james.     james potter is the second consideration. his charisma often puts peter at ease and makes him feel safe enough to tell him ( almost ) anything. his fear once again stems largely from rejection, but also from seeing the way that james reacts to snape. he is terrified that outing himself will pain a target on his back and those he once considered his closest friends would torment him endlessly without escape given they live in the same dorm. once again he recognizes his own paranoia, but fails to overcome it.

sirius.     finally, he comes to the option of sirius. he almost tells him despite his fears, as he’s the most likely to understand overcoming the prejudices instilled from a young age by people he trusted. that is what scares him so much about telling him though. if sirius, of all people, rejected him and refused all association, there was absolutely no way he could see that anyone else could ever possibly accept him for who he is, leaving him to lock the secret away.

[rpmemes-galore]

Hadestown: The Myth. The Musical. ... sentence starters  ( pt. 2 )

“You're stir crazy!”

“They called it ‘freedom’.”

“Wait, I'm coming with you.”

“Oh, you're a heartless man.”

“Go ahead and lay the blame.”

“Laying low, staying out of sight...”

“What if I said she's down below?“

“You got a lonesome road to walk.”

“Just how far would you go for her?“

“I can give you what it is you crave.”

“You're shivering... Is it cold or fear?”

“You sell your soul. you get your due!”

“You're on the lam, you're on the run.”

“Where are you? Where are you now?”

“Because they want what we have got.”

“Heavy and hard is the heart of the king.”

“Ain't you working on your masterpiece?“

“If you don't do it, then the other one will!“

“What do we have that they should want?“

“But, don't you see? It's different with me!”

“My heart is yours, always was and will be.”

“Now everybody knows the walls have ears.”

“You keep on walking and you don't look back.”

“Maybe you're looking for some stronger stuff...”

“I can see you're blinded by the sadness of it all.”

“What the boss don't know, the boss won't mind.”

“Oh, the way is dark and long, but I'm already gone.”

“It's a bitter wine. Spit it out while you still have time.”

“'Course, there is another way, but I ain't supposed to say it.”

“Every coward seems courageous in the safety of the crowd.”

“Oh, my heart, it aches to stay, but the flesh will have its way.”

“Talk of virtue. Talk of sin. Wouldn't you have done the same?”

“Only one thing to be done, let them think that they have won.”

“But, I don't understand... you said this was the promised land!”

“Don't need a ring for my finger, just need a steady hand to hold.”

“And you're gonna have a martyr on your hands if you let him go.”

“Doubt comes in and all falls silent. It's as though you aren't there.”

“There's no telling what you're gonna do when the chips are down.”

“You said the world was generous and wouldn't turn its back on us.”

“Take if you can. Give if you must. Ain't nobody but yourself to trust.”

“Life ain't easy. Life ain't fair. A girl's gotta fight for her rightful share.”

“Help yourself, to hell with the rest. Even the one who loves you best.”

“Nothing makes a man so bold as a woman's smile and a hand to hold.”

“You said that you would stay with me, whatever weather came our way.”

“She called your name before she went, but I guess you weren't listening.”

“He could make you see how the world could be in spite of the way that it is.”

“Oh, you're a spineless king. And you're never gonna get them in line, again.”

“Men are fools. Men are frail. Give them the rope and they'll hang themselves.”

“But, that was in another life. That was in another world when I was a young girl.”

“I don't need gold, don't need silver... just bread when I'm hungry, fire when I'm cold.”

“You can have your principles when you've got a bellyful, but hunger has a way with you.”

“Love is not a gilded cage. All the wealth within these walls, will never buy the thing called love.”

“Thought you'd lay your burdens down and rest in peace in paradise, but there ain't no rest for your weary soul.”

[alfuncoots]

Beatrice & Olaf 👀

Go ahead and lay the blame Talk of virtue, talk of sin Wouldn’t you have done the same? In her shoes, in her skin You can have your principles When you’ve got a bellyful But hunger has a way with you There’s no telling what you’re gonna do When the chips are down

Gone, I’m Gone - Anais Mitchell and The Haden Triplets

[st-just]

Go ahead and lay the blame Talk of virtue, talk of sin Wouldn't you have done the same? In her shoes, in her skin You can have your principles When you've got a bellyful But hunger has a way with you There's no telling what you're gonna do

The Fates, Gone, I’m Gone

[radiobob214]

Hadestown and Online Activism

Preemptive TL:DR, this kinda boils down to "Hadestown has nuance, tumblr is allergic to nuance"

"Go ahead and lay the blame. Talk of virtue, talk of sin. Wouldn't you have done the same, in her shoes, in her skin? You can have your principles when you've got a belly full."

So says the amazing jazz/folk musical Hadestown. Many people here would do well to consider how this quotation might apply to them. It's easy for my fellow well meaning white people to say "Well, of course I agree that black lives matter, but I don't condone rioting," because we are not nearly as affected by police brutality.

It's easy to moralize when you're not the one suffering.

This also applies to the mindset of "You bought at W@lmart/ Amaz0n/ McDona1d's/ etc, so you must support the company and their toxic policy." Unethical business practices yield lower prices, and there are times when those are the cheapest options.

[puckrph]

HADESTOWN SENTENCE STARTERS - PT II

taken from the broadway cast album. feel free to change pronouns, etc.

HEY LITTLE SONGBIRD

‘ hey, little songbird. ’ ’ i’m a busy man, and i can’t stay long. ’ ‘ cat got your tongue? ’ ‘ it’s always a pity for one so pretty and young when poverty comes to clip your wings and knock the wind right out of your lungs. ’ ‘ nobody sings on empty. ’ ‘ i want a nice soft place to land. i want to lie down forever. ’ ‘ you’ve got something fine. ’ ‘ the choice is yours, if you’re willing to choose, seeing as you’ve got nothing to lose. ’ ‘ i could use a canary. ’ ‘ suddenly, nothing is as it was. ’ ‘ wasn’t it gonna be the two of us? ‘ ‘ let me guess: he’s some kind of poet, and he’s penniless. ’ ‘ hey, why not fly south for the winter? ’ ‘ look all around you. see how the vipers and vultures surround you. and they’ll take you down, they’ll pick you clean if you hang around such a desperate scene. ’ ‘ people get mean when the chips are down. ’

WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN

‘ what is it? ’ ‘ it’s your ticket. ’ ‘ life ain’t easy. life ain’t fair. a girl’s gotta fight for her rightful share. ’ ‘ what you gonna do when the chips are down? ’ ‘ help yourself, to hell with the rest. even the one who loves you best. ’ ‘ oh, my aching heart... ’ ‘ take if you can, give if you must. ’ ‘ ain’t nobody but yourself to trust. ’ ‘ aim for the heart, shoot to kill. if you don’t do it, then the other one will. ’ ‘ the first shall be first, and the last shall be last. cast your eyes to heaven, you get a knife in the back. ’ ‘ nobody’s righteous. nobody’s proud. nobody’s innocent now that the chips are down. ’

GONE, I’M GONE

‘ my heart is yours. ’ ‘ my heart is yours, always was and will be. ’ ‘ my heart is yours, always was and will be. it’s my gut i can’t ignore; ____, i’m hungry. ’ ‘ oh, my heart, it aches to stay—but the flesh will have its way. ’ ‘ the way is dark and long. ’ ‘ i’m already gone. ’ ‘ go ahead and lay the blame. talk of virtue, talk of sin. ’ ‘ wouldn’t you have done the same in my shoes, in my skin? ’ ‘ you can have your principles when you’ve got a bellyful. but hunger has a way with you.  ’

WAIT FOR ME

‘ hey, the big artiste! ain’t you working on your masterpiece? ’ ‘ where is she? ’ ‘ what do you care? ’ ‘ what do you care? you’ll find another muse somewhere. ’ ‘ why do want to know? ’ ‘ wherever you are is where i’ll go. ’ ‘ i called your name before i went, but i guess you weren’t listening. ’ ‘ how far would you go for me? ’ ‘ how far would i go for you? to the end of time, to the end of the earth. ’ ‘ there is another way, but i ain’t supposed to say. ’ ‘ wait for me. ’ ‘ wait for me, i’m coming with you. ’ ‘ i’m coming too. ’ ‘ who are you? ’ ‘ where do you think you’re going? ’ ‘ who do you think you are? ’ ‘ you’re on the lam, you’re on the run. don’t give your name: you don’t have one. ’ ‘ don’t look no one in the eye. this town’ll try to suck you dry. they’ll suck your brains, they’ll suck your breath. they’ll pluck the heart right out your chest. they’ll truss you up in your sunday best and stuff your mouth with cotton. ’ ‘ i hear the walls repeating the falling of my feet, and it sounds like drumming. ’

WHY WE BUILD THE WALL

‘ why do we build the wall? we build the wall to keep us free. ’ ‘ how does the wall keep us free? the wall keeps out the enemy. ’ ‘ who do we call the enemy? the enemy is poverty. ’ ‘ they want what we have got. ’ ‘ the war is never won. ’ ‘ there are papers to be signed. step into my office. ’ ‘ a lot can happen behind closed doors, that’s for sure—that’s a fact. but a lot can happen on the factory floor when the foreman turns his back. ’ ‘ anybody want a drink? ’

OUR LADY OF THE UNDERGROUND

‘ i don’t know about you, but if you’re like me, then hanging around this old manhole’s just bringing you down. ’ ‘ you could use a little pick-me-up. ’ ‘ i can give you what it is you crave. ’ ‘ come here, let me guess: it’s the little things you miss. ’ ‘ ask me, and you shall receive. ’ ‘ or maybe these just ain’t enough? maybe you’re looking for some stronger stuff. ’ ‘ wipe away your tears. i know how you feel. ’ ‘ how long’s it been? ’ ‘ a little moonshine ain’t no sin. ’ ‘ what the boss don’t know, the boss won’t mind. ’

WAY DOWN HADESTOWN (REPRISE)

‘ the deal is signed? about time. ’ ‘ i did what i had to do. ’ ‘ they kept their heads down low. you couldn’t quite see their faces right. ’ ‘ they called it “freedom”. ‘ ‘ doesn’t anybody hear me? ’ ‘ they can hear, but they don’t care. ’ ‘ no one has a name down here. ’ ‘ he set you free to work yourself into the ground. ’ ‘ they can look, but they don’t see. ’ ‘ your eyes will look like that someday. ’ ‘ you kissed your little life goodbye. ’ ‘ so, what was your name again? ’ ‘ you’ve already forgotten. ’ ‘ a lot of souls have got to die to keep the rust belt rolling. ’

FLOWERS

‘ what i wanted was to fall asleep, to close my eyes and disappear. ’ ‘ i trembled when he laid me out. ’ ‘ you won’t feel a thing. ’ ‘ dreams are sweet until they’re not. men are kind until they aren’t. ’ ‘ is anybody listening? ’ ‘ i open my mouth, and nothing comes out. ’ ‘ come and find me lying in the bed i made. ’

COME HOME WITH ME (REPRISE)

‘ come home with me. ’ ‘ i called your name, before. ’ ‘ whatever happened, i’m to blame. ’ ‘ you called my name. ’ ‘ how’d you get here? ’ ‘ i sang a song so beautiful, the stones wept and they let me in. and i can sing us home again. ’

PAPERS

‘ i don’t think we’ve met before. ’ ‘ don’t know who the hell you are, but i can tell you don’t belong. ’ ‘ you stay out of this! ’ ‘ you better run. ’ ‘ i’m not going back alone. ’ ‘ who the hell do you think you are? ’ ‘ who the hell do you think you’re talking to? ’

NOTHING CHANGES

‘ why go against the grain? why swim upstream? ’ ‘ it ain’t no use, you’re bound to lose. ’ ‘ why get wet? why break a sweat? why waste your precious breath? ’ ‘ nothing changes, anyhow. ’

[funkyliloboist]

♾

Ah, some Hadestown.

Go ahead and lay the blame

Talk of virtue, talk of sin

Wouldn't you have done the same?

In her shoes, in her skin

I think these lines served an important role in reality-checking the audience. We are upset that Eurydice has chosen to go to the Underworld, but given the circumstances, can we judge her?

[rewrite-this-story]

I think you only wanted one musical but here's three: Hadestown, Little Shop of Horrors, Hamilton

Thank you so much for requesting these! I love all three of these musicals. I'm a little less familiar with Little Shop of Horrors, so I'll start with that. Also, these are not in any specific order.

Little Shop of Horrors

All my life I've always been poor. I keep asking God what I'm for and he tells me, "Gee, I'm not sure."

Show me your face clean as the mornin'. I know things were bad, but now they're okay.

Tell me this feeling lasts 'til forever. Tell me the bad times are clean washed away

Hamilton

If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?

We'll never be truly free until those in bondage have the same rights as you and me.

I'd rather be devisive than indecisive.

You have no control who live, who dies, who tells your story.

No one really knows how the parties get to yes. The peices that are sacrificed in every game of chess. We just assume that it happens, but no one else was in the room where it happens.

Hadestown

With a million hands, he builds a wall around all the riches he digs from the Earth. The pickaxe flashes, the hammer falls, and crashing and pounding as rivers surround him and drown out the sound of the song he once heard.

Nobody's righteous. Nobody's proud. Nobody's innocent now that the chips are down.

Go ahead and lay the blame. Talk of virtue, talk of sin. Wouldn't you have done the same?

The ones who tell the lies are the solemnest to swear. And the ones who load the dice always say the toss is fair.

If we're free, tell me why I can't look in my brother's eye.

As I'm sure you've guessed, I really love Hamilton and Hadestown. There are many many more lyrics I love and these are only a few of my favourites. I had to limit myself to five for both Hamilton and Hadestown.

For this post:

[eerna]

Hello! Random detail from the show I wanted to share!

When Eurydice handed Hermes her token in I’m Gone, basically our entire section gasped behind us, which mean that when the Fates busted in with “go ahead and lay the blame, talk of virtue talk of sin, wouldn’t you have done the same?” It felt like they were DIRECTLY CALLING THEM OUT it was CRAZY

So cool to see the theater do it in real time!!!!! Twice I've had my friends say "wow Eurydice is not loyal huh" and then the Fates would sing their lines and they would be like "OH I AM BEING CALLED OUT". Really great how those lines are irreplacable ahahah

[betterratarchive]

SIRIUS WENT TO CHECK ON PETER THAT NIGHT TO SEE IF HE WAS SAFE. i am fucking tired of the fanon bullshit that sirius and peter basically gave no shits about each other.  sirius fucking cared about him. i will never argue they were the closest or anything like it but for fucks sake can we stop painting sirius as someone who all but relentlessly bullied peter and for all intents and purposes of fanon, probably would have suspected him as a spy more readily than he would remus. fanon needs to stop basing sirius and peter’s relationship on poa onwards when you’re seeing bitter angry sirius lashing out at the man who put him in azkaban for twelve fucking years.

[thethingwithmemes]

Hadestown Sentence Starters (Part Five) 

Change anything as needed 

Gone, I’m Gone

“My heart is yours, always was and will be.”

“My heart, it aches to stay.” 

“I’m already gone.” 

“Go ahead and lay the blame.” 

“Talk of virtue.” 

“Talk of sin.” 

“Wouldn’t you have done the same?” 

Wait For Me [Intro]

“Aren’t you working on your masterpiece?” 

“You’ll find another muse somewhere.” 

“Where is she?” 

“Wherever she is, is where I’ll go.” 

“What if I said she’s down below?” 

“Just how far would you go for her?” 

Wait For Me

“Wait for me.” 

“I’m coming.” 

“Wait, I’m coming with you.” 

“If all you got is your own two legs, just be glad you got them.” 

“Who are you?” 

“Where do you think you’re going?” 

“Why are you all alone?” 

“Who are you to think that you can walk a road that no one ever walked before?” 

“You’re on the lam, you’re on the run.” 

“Don’t give your name, you don’t have one.” 

“I am not alone.” 

Why We Build The Wall

“Why do we build the wall?”

“We build the wall to keep us free.” 

“The wall keeps out the enemy.” 

“Who do we call the enemy?” 

“Our work is never done.” 

[datastate]

Go ahead and lay the blame.

Talk of virtue, talk of sin;

wouldn’t you have done the same?

In her shoes? In her skin?