#[☂️] radisv / 💜

[hematomes]

So I've seen your post about prime Barbatos and (I don't subscribe to either I am open to both interpretations until proven wrong since we stil don't have his pt2 story quest and because of the latest events he is very sus with all mentions of wind and time)

Anyway I take prime Barbatos as him at his strongest and I think the reason so many people think of him being the strongest is because we actually know the least about him from the 3 archons we know, it is insinuated that he kinda is weird about time since his line for hello is like we've met before while everyone else is just introducing themselves as if we've never met plus that line in his story quest "let's meet at the usual spot" everyone took as the Vanessa tree while it was the statue's hands(where we've never been to until this point) so it's almost as if he knows the future/ other worlds or something, there is also the theory that he has never gone all out and always acted as a support (from the revolution to Decabrain to the revolution in the aristocracy which he literally ended with a false signature from morax instead of fighting, to meeting Dvalin for the first time and instead of fighting him in time where dragons were considered monsters he befriended him and so on) as for the construction of Mond the main point people are making about it is that while every archon has done something like that to their nation the only specified places that are constructed in that way of teraforming have been way smaller. Morax and Ei both have done it to a Island each (as far as we know from lore for now) but Barbatos has done it to the whole of Mond with breaking off the tallest mountain. Also if you look at the prolog it seems like he is able to actually show people the past through his songs since both the traveler's and Diluc 's reactions to his songs was "what was that/what did I just see" after the player is shown a clip of the past

But again that can be interpreted in different ways. The people you talk about have interpreted them as him holding back but many also see it as him needing someone else instead of doing it himself(if you look at one of his trailers the 4 winds basically tell him to finally do his job instead of telling others to do it)

So yeah again in kinda in the middle because there is a lot of mystery behind him still so I can't rule out him at his strongest being well the strongest of the archons while I also can't rule out him not being the strongest simply because we have wayyyy too little information about him

Anyway sorry for the rant but I've been obsessing over lore for the past week and when I saw the post I couldn't help it😅

OKAY SO TWO POINTS TO MAKE FIRST

1. thank you so much for providing that much info omg that's very interesting and!!! it does answer some questions

2. don't APOLOGIZE I LITERALLY ASKED WHAT PRIME BARBATOS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AND YOU ANSWERED THOROUGHLY so once again thank you

now onto the actual subject

i did take into account that barbatos/venti was really secretive, which is interesting bc with mondstadt obvious links to both celestia and the abyss (the gateway to celestia on the statue + the upside down statue)(and that's not taking into account the fact that we start at mond and we meet dainsleif there), i do wonder how they're going to give us more info on barbatos

my main... "problem" with this theory is that it's backed up with very little solid evidence - as you said, it can be interpreted in two ways, and the issue with these theories is that people take it for granted (= my frustration towards the consensus on tiktok that barbatos is the strongest archon in his prime when according to actual, current lore he's in fact said to be the weakest)

the part about him seeing the future etc is also very interesting, because iirc he does know every song ever written? so that's a nice theory! and there's another link with time, what with him being a part of the thousand winds (i can't remember the name BUT i do remember that said 'thousand winds' was one of the primordial one's shades so... yeah)

anyway it does make it clearer!! i like this theory, don't get me wrong (WELL i know you won't but), as i said my real problem is the fact that it's taken for granted when, at the end of the day, it's just a theory that could be debunked bc it's so easy to interpret it in another way. but this perspective is really cool, so!!! once again, thank you for your time <3