#// his mark or his sharingan lore

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its akatsuki!Lee propaganda & #like what is the lore

random part V & sasuuuukeeeee

THANX U SKUUN♥ @egregiousderp for all ur ideas *U* and for permission to use your quotes

in general, THANKS♥ everyone from the Glugchat, you are an incredible community, and I really appreciate your support And I don't remember when my presence in the fandom was LIKE THIS

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but if they’re on the same team and Sasuke confides in him that he’s looking for his brother (to kill) that might be a sympathy point for Lee.

His whole grudge against Sasuke initially I mean? At first it’s just “ah he’s from a prestigious clan so I can test my own abilities against him.” But then Sasuke learns movement from Lee without Lee meaning to allow him to…

But if Lee eventually becomes Akatsuki is could also be because he’s trying to infiltrate it and locate Itachi for Sasuke.

Genuinely there’s a lot of possibility in an AU like this and a Sasuke and Lee friendship could be SO INTERESTING like this, because Lee’s personality is so similar to Naruto’s but also…a little different?

Sasuke would probably take the Gaara thing as “makes sense of course you want revenge on the man who took away your life too. We’re the same.

THE POTENTIAL FOR EDGY SASUKE AND LEE FRIENDSHIP IN AKATSUKI!LEE

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I've thought about it a lot. I've never had much love for Sasuke, you know. but the more I thought about how their friendship would develop, the more interesting it seemed to me.

(by the way, it's funny if you look at the team that Sasuke has assembled - purely a TEAM OF RABID HYPERACTIVE EXTROVERTS, Lee fits in perfectly)

b u t

it turns out that they would still have time to spend some time with Orochimaru

when Sasuke comes to Akatsuki, not knowing that Rock Lee is already there

"…YOU AGAIN" "… AND HERE TOO"

and FUCK Lee wasn't there just because of Gaara but also because of Sasuke

(in general, it's funny to parallel, because Lee is in some ways similar to Naruto, and Sasuke is in some ways similar to Gaara

I can already go draw memes where Lee and Sasuke, with faces full of pent-up jealousy and indignation, look at Naruto and Gaara and randomly come to kage's office if they met TO REALLY DISCUSS BUSINESS …OKAY, I got distracted by how many jokes you can make on this concept

Anbu!Lee: 'I assure you, I'm just doing my job, I just want to make sure that the meeting IS GOING WELL' the rest of the anbu: 'yy e aaaah, of course. =/ after all, Naruto is definitely the one with whom the meeting can go wrong… mind your own business, we don't want to get involved in this') + another line of Sasuke and Gaara in the five kage arch is complemented by the fact that he now knows a little more about Sasuke because of Lee…..

so then think they would have to really try to get over their mutual dislike.

I think during orochimaru (I'll call it orochimaru timing lol) they still experienced it, but nevertheless they could already take a closer look at each other as individuals. Moreover, then it will be, on the contrary, a kind of period of skill improvement for both.

just imagine how Lee, with the same zeal with which he studied taijitsu, studies the use of chakra with Sasuke and Sasuke is improving his taijitsu skill

( while I was writing this, I realized that I had not decided which element of the chakra Lee had =/ )

I literally expect Sasuke to have to train with him - he still understands that they can train each other well, especially since Sasuke copied Lee for a reason, and the original goal of becoming stronger should be above personal relationships.

and for Lee if copying Sasuke on the exam was a pretty painful blow, now it's gradually becoming interesting Sasuke trained the speed skill with Kakashi for the sake of chidori, so I'm sure Lee could, u know TO REPEAT IT NOW

without sharingan technique is useless (the story of smol kakashi and this technique), but purely at speed without weights

just technically it can be done just as a fact of training. put a check mark in your head.

it looks to me like those moments when Lee is more confident in the correctness of his decisions.

because it's like a closed gestalt for himself, just technically to do what he saw from Sasuke at that moment It's like a confirmation that he's really right. that it was worth the risk to have such opportunities to use the chakra.

(by the way, I generally think what a huge potential Lee has then, at this moment they showed us the CHAKRA↓ if you add to this the things that were shown in the canon - the speed boost and the whole feint with weights, the opening of the gate, IT REMAINS ONLY TO GIVE HIM A BOTTLE OF ALCOHOL IN THE END. moreover, at first I also forgot about OROCHIMARU's SEAL, I remembered about it only when I thought about Itachi and joining akatsuki. I created a monster, you know. and I don't regret anything ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

but look at this…. chakrashot lol)

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Actually, it's about Itachi and Sasuke

initially, I immediately decided that Itachi had influenced Lee to join Akatsuki in the end.

so Skuun's ideas influenced me to think about it in more detail, because I didn't think about Sasuke at first.

"but if they’re on the same team and Sasuke confides in him that he’s looking for his brother (to kill) that might be a sympathy point for Lee."

so sooner or later they would have discussed this point too, and I think they would have managed to build a trusting relationship for this.

..at some point after Sasuke's rescue arc, Itachi would have found Lee. Also to talk, as it was with Naruto. (Apart from what was described in one of the parts where I told you that Itachi just chose to pick up the Konoha boy from Orochimaru in the mom mode lol)

Of course, this conversation would not be like a conversation with Naruto, I imagine how Lee, on the contrary, purses his lips "in a beak", saying that he and Sasuke are not friends at all. (for now)

Itachi would like to know more about Sasuke, but since there would be little information, he would eventually tell about Akatsuki, predicting that the alliance with Orochimaru would not last long.

"When you decide to leave, we'll find you ourselves." (Lee just didn't know that Itachi would know anyway, since he was looking out for his brother)

…will offer to help with the removal of the seal if he joins them. And this will be another small lead to Sasuke.

In the long run, it seems that Itachi looks to me next to Lee really like a bit of a "mom", a slightly more mentoring figure, which he could not become for Sasuke.

Moreover, he also understood that Lee would most likely sooner or later begin to understand what he had fucked up about. -> they would have had a lot of dialogues about it

- why did you leave -are you really right -what will you do after …you've talked a lot about becoming someone who doesn't use chakra, but you've given up on it. Is strength the main thing?...

"Sasuke showed me that there's no point in what you can't use."

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Skuun really inspired me to think about them a lot more

because in the future, it seems to me that they really have a pretty interesting long friendship, cemented by time and common problems

NOT TO MENTION THE WAR ARCH AND THE POST!WAR TIME (it's even a pity that I already described about anbu in another part ahahah)

and I really like the fact that then the canonical situations between Naruto, Sasuke, Gaara and Lee intertwine and parallel a little differently

I even started to think that maybe Sasuke would trust me with a story about his plans for the final arches.

and it seems that this would be a disagreement that would gradually grow and strengthen between them, because in fact the way of "correcting" Lee would be different, just because of Gaara. Where in the final arch he has already really revised his past choices, and despite some mistakes, he chooses in the end to just accept them, and use the acquired power for what he talked about from the first arches. for protection.

It would be a great entry into the arc of war.

He comes with Sasuke's team. They come to help and protect. …and there's just a tense silence between them for the first time in a long time, because Lee knows. but he would like to believe that he, too, will come to a different decision.

I'll also add a little bit about art from prison. I just think of them sitting in neighboring cells in these straitjackets, talking through the wall. Where Lee jokes dubious jokes about returning to Konoha, and Sasuke laughs very quietly anyway about where they ended up. (Lee hardly hears it, but he just knows)

"…YOU AGAIN" "… AND HERE TOO"

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I WROTE TOO MUCH HERE, although I wanted to think a little more about Sasuke's attitude to the "Gaara thing" T___T

"Sasuke would probably take the Gaara thing as “makes sense of course you want revenge on the man who took away your life too. We’re the same." ©

..and it is in this quote that one can reflect what Sasuke sounds like here

...want revenge on the man who took away

AND HOW WONDERFUL IT IS that this logic works, because HE WAS WRONG ABOUT ITACHI …SO AND HE WAS WRONG ABOUT GAARA TOO

but ok , apparently that's enough for this post

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Analyses and Thoughts - Complete List

All my analyses gathered in one place for your convenience.

*Note* Will be updated the moment a new analysis is posted. Reblog-function is turned off for this post therefore.

All of my Naruto analyses use a combination of official english translation, anime scenes and official german translation just because I love to analyze how different translations change certain scenes with the use of certain words.

Posts marked with eng. use the official english release of Manga scans as a base.

Naruto - Analyses and Thoughts

Uchiha Madara

Uchiha Madara’s personality part 1 | part 2 | part 3 | updated ver: Uchiha Madara’s personality in its entirety eng

Why did Madara perpetuate the cycle of violence (pre-Konoha)?

Madara’s issues - a combination of nature and nurture

Uchiha Madara - A man defined by love, hope and despair

Madara’s mastery of Susano’o - It reveals his subconscious brilliantly

Is Madara a Misogynist?

Uchiha Izuna

Was Izuna anti-peace?

Izuna’s Personality - the many possibilities

Does he have a ponytail or not?!

Uchiha siblings

Madara and Izuna - The age gap could be larger than 1-2 years

Uchiha Sasuke

Did Sasuke really feel no love for Sakura, at all? | Updated version: eng

Uchiha Itachi

(Eternal Mangekyō) Sharingan

Sharingan - Lore Evolution

Mangekyō Abilities - Interpretations of the Symbolism

Mangekyō Abilities - How they reveal the personality of its bearer

Warring States Era

How did they know each other’s name? Eng | Izuna, Tobirama, Tajima, Butsuma

To be a parent during the Warring States Era and beyond

Konoha Era

Attempt at a timeline for Naruto

Iwagakure conflict reveals quite a lot about Hashirama

Senju Hashirama

Senju Hashirama - how his dream twisted him | eng

Hashirama’s offer of peace - Emotional manipulation or simply very tactless? | eng

Senju Tobirama

Senju Tobirama - Fear made him do terrible wrongs | eng

Diverse Naruto Characters

Haruno Sakura - an ordinary girl amongst very special people

Chiyo and Sasori - She neglected him out of guilt and fear

Naruto - Comparisons

Comparing specific moments in the Manga with the anime.

The “Uchiha Izuna” Conversation - Manga and Anime Comparison

River Confrontation (Ep. 368 | Chapter 624)

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Look, I’m the lore & logistics guy. I have to take a crack at this.

Google tells me a real life clan is usually several hundred people strong, up to a thousand. Well, Konoha is not that big, and there’s at least four other ninja clans in it as well as civilians, so this is clearly too much. I’d put it at a “small town” population, less than 5,000 people, eyeballing it.

USA birth rate is 11 per 1000 per year. Japan’s is lower, but I’m erring on the generous side to account for a high fatality-rate. In Naruto’s graduating class there were about 20 kids. That’s a population of about 2k. If we accept that there’s also a non-ninja school where civilian kids can get an education sans knives, and it’s equally large, that’s a population of 4K. We never see this, but the kids are asked “why did you want to be a ninja”, which implies that there is an option not to be. So let’s accept the 4,000 head population for our purposes.

So here’s what we know about the Uchiha clan size:

Two people were able to kill all the clan in the compound in a single night, without alerting anyone outside. Granted they’re both extremely powerful mind-control types, but even so, they need to be in the line of sight of someone to use their powers. And the victims would have fought back. The clan can’t have too many hundreds of members, or this would be unreasonable.

Additionally, we don’t hear about any other children except Sasuke. There must have been other children—I was at a family reunion with 5 beach houses recently and there were at least 6 small children running around. For Sasuke to be the only Uchiha kid in his year (we never hear about any classmates disappearing), the 11 per 1k birth rate math puts us at a population of 90 clan members. If they have a lower-than average birth rate in this clan—say, comparable to modern Japan (6 per 1k)—the population looks more like 150.

On Reddit, ilivoor99 says:

I’m gonna argue that this would account for all of them, because they’re too precious of a resource to have extras floating around. Maybe there’s an extra couple that got trashed during Danzo’s experiments.

So we have minimum 90 adults in the clan with sharingan. Male and female, although skewing male most likely. There will be an unspecified number of those without, who are either blind or else never activated.

This is all reasonably consistent. I have another stat to factor in, though.

The room where the clan “gathered” was big enough for maybe 40 if you line them in rows for a ceremony. This would be adults, obviously, and maybe if you’re being sexist about it, Only Men. Sexism seems reasonable under the circumstances. So we imagine there’s 40 men ages 14-70 in the clan when they built the compound. This is a small population to be self-sustaining, but we know they have lost some people to defection AND they’ve been suffering a bleed of war casualties for years. So they’re at a low point, probably. You’d have a population of roughly 80 adults, or possibly more if women are excluded from combat. Let’s mark it up to 100 to be generous.

Okay, so why are they nearly the same size 80 years ago as they are when Itachi wipes them out? You would expect a peace-time baby boom.

We know that not every member of the clan activates a sharingon. We also know that the sharingon is activated due to intense fear of loss. It’s implied that Obito was not treated well by the clan as a genin, and one might extrapolate that this is directly related to having not activated yet. We could say that members who never activate are probably treated as failures, and therefore they are not invested in by the clan.

Historically in Japan there were eras where men would marry into their wives’ clans and take their father-in-law’s name. People ostracized from the clan for not activating might have married into other clans, and due to Blood Purity Bullshit, no longer be counted as Uchiha. This keeps the population of the clan relatively small, despite increased stability over the next century. If the eyes don’t manifest in mixed generations, then it would be easy to discount those kids from the murders.

Also, Obito does tell us that Uchiha clansmen were known to murder their loved ones in order to steal their eyes and regain their sight. Unclear how common this was—it could have just been a couple horror stories.

Between the bleed of out-marrying and the potential murder rate, and the wars, it’s not unreasonable to say that they never quite built their numbers back up.

So we have a population maximum of about 150 people, a minimum of 100. Skew higher if you think there were a lot of living-blind clan members, or a lot of living-inactivated clan members.

In regards to the other Big Name:

Redditors been having the same crisis about canon that I’m having for the last ten years

Kishimono Math strikes again

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kakashi come seal ur adopted devil spawn before he goes on a murdering spree early in his life -

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Shaggy Powerscaling

The first Shaggy meme I ever saw was this one:

and I remembered the Sasuke vs Itachi fight from Shippuden, and presumed it was near the end of the series. Sasuke gets strong as shit, so it kinda checks out that he could be a tenth of Him. So I decided to scale that up. According to Death Battle, Superman is basically the strongest thing in fiction, so that was the goal. Scale Shaggy himself up to the Man of Steel. Sasuke by the end of the series, tag teaming with Naruto, is able to defeat Madara. You don't need to know who that is. You just need to know that, according to a source I was unable to find, he's as strong as Nappa. If we're generous, Sasuke did half the work to defeat Madara, so cutting Nappa's 4000 power level in half gives us Sasuke's 2000. That makes Shaggy's power level, if we're to believe the meme, a paltry 20,000. Frieza's second form is 1,000,000. In conclusion, Shaggy's a huge bitch . While I was looking for the source for that thought, I found this one, which says that Madara could defeat Super Saiyen Blue Goku. Sasuke is about half the strength of Madara, and from the same universe with comparably wacky powers, which the article says are the thing that would out-perform Goku's hand-to-hand and Ki blasts. If Chakra and Ki are comparable power-wells(and I think they are), then characters' use of them are a viable way to compare overall power. Shaggy also seems to have wacky powers, so it makes far more sense to scale him against Naruto characters in general than DBZ, but being able to compare him to Goku(Who's a little under 20% of Shaggy's power, at this point), allows us to compare him to the peak of fiction, Superman. Kind of. According to Death Battle, power scaling doesn't really apply to Superman, since the whole point of him is that he's super powerful. In which case, similar rules probably apply to Shaggy. The guy's a freak. So right now all we know is that they're both leagues above the only other potentially comparable character. Except that this exists:

Definitively showing Shaggy as the superior being. Now I don't know a ton about Superman lore, so I don't know exactly which episode of the animated series this scene is from, but I do know that Superman gets similarly weak when exposed to Kryptonite, sweats, and finds it hard to stand. I also know that Kryptonite is green, and I think you can see where I'm going here. His shirt is made of Superman poison, specifically to defeat the only thing that could possibly stand against Him.

EXCEPT for one tiny thing. I misplaced the scene Itachi's choking Sasuke. That's not even the end of the original run of Naruto. Sasuke doesn't even have three tomas on ONE of his Sharingan. All of the scaling we've done thus far doesn't count for anything any more. Sasuke, who takes 10% of Shaggy's power to defeat, didn't leave a mark on Itachi. Itachi, who is far below the level of anyone else I've mentioned so far, effortlessly defeats this Sasuke.

In conclusion, Shaggy's actually a huge bitch.

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THE GREAT CRUNCHYROLL NARUTO REWATCH Goes Matchmaking in Episodes 190-196!

Welcome to THE GREAT CRUNCHYROLL NARUTO REWATCH! I’m Kara Dennison, and I’ll be your host this week as we run through all 220 episodes of the original Naruto anime adaptation like an army of Kyles through Area 51. In last week's episodes 183-189, we left behind the Hidden Star Village and took on the Peddlers Escort Mission. This week, episodes 190-196 close out our journey to the Land of Greens and then take us on a series of one-shot and two-episode missions.

  I figured after Joseph Luster nearly tapped out last week that things had to start looking up... but boy, it's been a mixed bag. Out of the frying pan that was the Hidden Greens Village and straight into the fire that was "Chubby Paradise" - probably my least favorite episode to date. And judging by this week's answers, I wasn't alone. Fortunately, that was balanced out with some fun: Hinata awesomeness, a hungry hungry house, and Tsunade being... well... peak Tsunade. Plus, we get the return of Rock Lee and Might Guy!

  So, as we approach the threshhold of the final two dozen episodes, let's see what the team thought of this batch of filler!

    We’ve seen some pretty nasty jutsu before, but between Jiga’s suffocating magnetized sand and Renga’s “ants under a magnifying glass” treatment, the Janin brought (and suffered) some brutal tactics. What Naruto death or attack has freaked you out the most so far… or are you too stone cold for that kind of thing?

Paul: “Death by Wooly Willy into giant sand pit” is a pretty bad way to go, but honestly the technique that freaks me out the most is the Shinigami one that the Third Hokage uses to seal Orochimaru's arms. If that Jutsu lands properly, then both the wielder and the victim are banished to an eternal hell-realm where their spirits remained locked in combat forever, and that's some messed up metaphysics.

  Kevin: A lot of the more shocking deaths and techniques probably would’ve been more effective if I hadn’t seen the show before. That being said, I’d probably choose the Sound Ninja that used the gauntlets and had half his face wrapped up (okay look, the death and character design made an impression. The actual character, not so much). We didn’t see any detail, but we see his terror, we get a silhouette of what Gaara can become (if I’m remembering the episode correctly), and then he’s just gone. There’s so little fanfare that we don’t even hear about it beyond Sasuke mentioning that his opponent didn’t show up for some reason.

  Joseph: I’d say it’s that Mangekyou Sharingan move Itachi used on Sasuke and others to essentially lock them in an eternal loop of reliving their own personal tragedies.

  Noelle: Same like Kevin, I’ve seen the show before, so I know what’s coming. I don’t think I remember being particularly creeped out by any of the deaths, because none of them were major characters. More than the gruesome factor of character deaths, I react to the emotional weight of them so no, I haven’t really felt anything.

  Danni: Getting caught by Itachi’s Mangekyou Sharingan seems like a pretty raw deal, to say the least.

  Jared: Mangekyou Sharingan would definitely rank up there in terms of just pure psychological horror. Also any bug attacks. Just yuck.

  David: Honestly Gaara’s entire skill set gives me the creeps, just because of how intensely it would set off any sort of claustrophobia (before crushing me to death of course).

  Carolyn: I guess I just watch too much horror to really be affected like that. From a writing/storytelling standpoint, the most emotional death was the Third Hokage’s. Every character ended up dealing with his death in their own way (including Orochimaru), while also being a major point of growth for Naruto.

    So, that whole Princess Fuku scenario… I’m going to save us all a bunch of time and ask if there’s anything you dislike about Naruto that didn’t make its way into this episode.

Paul: Fat-phobia? Check. Weird assumptions and gender-based hang-ups? Check. Naruto turning into a piss-sprinkler? Check. Jiraiya, even though he's not physically present, still managing to encourage Naruto’s questionable behavior? Check. With the free space in the middle, I think I've got a “bingo” here...

  Kevin: Fart jokes, I guess? In looking for something, anything, good in this episode, a few of Ino’s reactions are so over the top and abrupt that I chuckled a little. But even those were humorous more due to the sudden tonal shift, and the more you remember what caused them, the less funny they become.

  Joseph: It’s a bad episode through and through. I really disliked the previous arc, though, so I was fine with just letting my eyes glaze over at the screen for this one.

  Noelle: I don’t even know where to begin, admittedly. I don’t think I liked a single moment of this one. It’s just... bad, and not worth a watch at all.

  Danni: At least there were no dead ghost moms?

  Jared: I guess there’s no Jiraiya accosting sexy jutsu Naruto, which is probably one of the few bad things this show does that it didn’t somehow include here.

  David: Oh, to be a fly on the wall in the writers' room as they were checking off the list of obnoxious things to include here. Really feels purposeful at this point.

  Carolyn: Sasuke.

    Up next is yet another “outsider infiltrates with disastrous results” episode, once again with the cast unsuspecting of a disguise in play. If you were a ninja, how could a friend or family member verify you’re you, and not an enemy ninja using a Disguise Jutsu?

Paul: My family would be able to identify the real me by inquiring about embarrassing childhood moments that – even though I'm now 37 years of age – they still bring up on the regular for some reason. My friends would be doomed, though, since they don't know the hidden meaning of the phrase “Baby Brontosaurus." They're not asking. I'm not telling.

  Kevin: Until this episode, I would’ve thought that a sparring match would be pretty definitive evidence in a world where practically every named character can fight and knows magical martial arts. But apparently everyone decided to leave their brains at home for a few episodes.

  Joseph: They’d probably just ask what my favorite Nightmare on Elm Street movie is and if I ever gave the same answer twice they’d know it’s not really me.

  Noelle: Beyond some personal information that I rarely disclose, getting me to start monologuing about doujin and the discrepancy between US self-pub and JP/KR self-pub is a good way to start.

  Danni: They’d play either of the Love Live! Sunshine!! ending themes for me and if I did not immediately start crying, they would Hurricane Leaf Kick my doppleganger to death.

  Jared: Probably something similar to Danni’s with it being a Sunshine!! question or asking if Garou: Mark of the Wolves has one of the pettiest stories in all of video games.

  David: Just start asking me about my hyper-specific opinions on the Fate franchise as a whole, and you’ll know it’s me when it goes on far longer than you were hoping.

  Carolyn: If they asked which Stephen King books I own and the imposter actually knew all of them without pulling up a Google doc, they are lying. Also probably anything involving Buffy.

      And we’re back to another ghost episode… so yeah, we’re to the point when recycling concepts is much more the rule than the exception, and there’s not long left for that to change. To that end, is there a filler episode whose concept you’d like to see revisited, and how would you improve on it?

Paul: As others have already mentioned, I'd like to see more exploration of the shinobi-inspired offshoots of ordinary jobs, like the ninja chefs and the ninja postal delivery service. In the former case, a straightforward cooking contest without the kidnapping angle would work, and in the latter case, anything that didn't involve Jiraiya's erotic literature preventing a war between rival nations would be a step up. I'd also love an entire episode that's just everyone taking their pets and summons to the ninja veterinarian for check-ups.

  Kevin: Two options: One, Naruto as a mentor, maybe in charge of Konohamaru’s group, maybe not, but take the episode to show that he’s changed a little and has a bit more patience now. Two, back to the idea of the Ninja Chefs and Ninja Postmen. Just take normal jobs, slap Ninja on the front, and make a fun episode from it. It may not make any sense, but at least it could be entertaining.

  Joseph: I’d love to see literally anyone else but the main crew we’ve been following. Show me what Gamabunta is up to in the land of the big frogs or something.

  Noelle: Honestly, thirding the ‘normal jobs, but with ninja’ idea. We get a good enough grasp on the world, not down to the details, but enough that we can have a general idea of how things work. I’m the type of person that likes looking at small details, so show me the gears of this world, and how people function on the day to day (with ninja superpowers).

  Danni: Anything involving Might Guy, honestly. I’ve said it multiple times and it’s because I believe it: give me a day-in-the-life episode of Guy and Kakashi as roommates. I want to see them fight over who has to do the dishes.

  Jared: Definitely weird ninja jobs that haven’t been discussed yet or maybe something as simple as a non-Naruto focused episode where we just get a look at other characters doing either their routine or how they handle things when Naruto isn’t around.

  David: More food episodes, this time without the baggage of an actual “threat”. I just want to see our cast cooking up food in ridiculous magic ninja ways!

  Carolyn: My favorite filler episodes so far have been the Scooby-Doo ghost and the live-burial death cult. I’d be happy to explore the actual psychology and lore of the death cult.

  We finish out with two episodes of Rock Lee goodness, this time with Lee and Guy beating the snot out of each other via chakra WiFi. Several of us expressed (understandable) concern about Guy’s mentoring style during the Chunin Exam. How do we feel about the sensei/student interaction a couple dozen episodes from the end?

Paul: I like the idea of Rock Lee and Might Guy clashing by proxy through Chakra-controlled practice dummies, and I enjoy how that situation resolves, but I'm ambivalent about Guy's tutoring style and Lee's ambitions. Even though they explicitly address the idea of over-training, and even though Lee ends up on crutches again this episode, I don't feel that Lee has internalized any lessons about not absolutely destroying himself on his quest to achieve ninja mastery through Taijutsu. I’d like to see him fight smarter, not harder.

  Kevin: Honestly, Guy and Lee’s relationship may be one of the more complicated in the series. Sure, it’s as simple as “Lee follows after Guy like a puppy,” but that means that Lee is always driving himself far beyond his natural limits, and Guy encourages him pretty much the whole way, until Lee’s body gives out. It’s a self-destructive relationship for Lee, and Guy is enabling it while also genuinely trying to be a supportive figure, to the point that he gets Lee to accept a potentially lethal surgery by telling him that if Lee dies, they’ll die together. There’s a lot of darkness hiding behind the shining teeth and can-do attitudes. As for how I feel about it, I honestly would need to sit down and think for a while, and even then I’m not sure I could come up with a definitive answer.

  Joseph: The whole ‘you die, I die’ thing still bugs me. I like where Guy is coming from but these filler episodes don’t do much to convince me he’s the best teacher ever. He may be the most supportive teacher ever, but it’s to a fault. Rock Lee is still great but honestly he’s too good for this show at this point.

  Noelle: It’s honestly very complicated, because there is no clean-cut answer. The truth is that Lee does have to work twice as hard to stand up to his peers, because he naturally doesn’t have the talents that they do. Having someone who wholeheartedly supports him is pretty alluring, no matter how you look at it. At the same time, Guy is 100% enabling Lee to go past his limits in an unhealthy way, and that doesn’t really change here.

  Danni: Ever since Lee miraculously recovered from his surgery in time to come to Naruto’s aid in the Sasuke Retrieval arc, I’ve kind of just accepted that subplot is entirely meaningless. Plus, at this point in the plot desert they’re clearly rehashing every single concept they’ve had so who cares?

  Jared: Guy can be bad about allowing Lee to push past his limits in ways that he really shouldn’t, but at the same time, I think Lee would do that anyways as you’d really have to nail that into him that he shouldn’t. That’s pretty much what we saw here again. As some of the other’s have said, Guy is very supportive, but there’s a line between being supportive and being toxically supportive.

  David: Unfortunately given Lee’s insistence, I really doubt there’s a realistic other option aside from someone convincing him that maybe he just isn’t meant to be a combat ninja, which maybe actually is the right answer?

  Carolyn: Guy didn’t make Lee the way he is. Lee already had this tenacity and work ethic, Guy just helps it along by being supportive. And I still maintain that Jiraiya has done literally nothing for Naruto. So, as far as I’m concerned, Guy is far from the worst Sensei. Plus, Lee’s injuries don’t typically come from his training but in actual fights with abnormally powerful foes. You could also argue that the fact that he can actually walk and fight again at all is due to his drive, which Guy definitely helps to foster. I think their relationship is fine.

    It’s probably a given what half of this answer will be, but for the sake of symmetry, what are your HIGH and LOW points of the week?

Paul: My high point is Tsunade attaching a pair of dummy arms to her overcoat so she can secretly drink sake when she’s supposed to be working, with an honorable mention going to the “ghost” episode which is actually about Naruto, Hinata, and Kiba encountering a “House Hunter” Mimic from Dungeons & Dragons. My low point is everything from the Princess Fuku episode. Fat people deserve to be romantic leads without being the butt of an endless series of lazy jokes.

  Kevin: High – Tsunade entire setup before she sends out Tenten, Neji and Naruto to help Guy. She has fake arms to make it look like she’s actually doing work as she sneaks a cup of sake, and when she needs to make a team, she literally just has cards of the available genin and tries to form something half way workable for the few that are around. Low – I mean, is anyone NOT going to say the Princess Fuku episode? It was a 23 minute long fat joke that got maybe a chuckle out of me due to severe tonal shifts.

  Joseph: My high was the living house episode. Look, sorry, I’m a simple man who’s a huge sucker for living houses. The low would have to be everything from the Greens arc. I’m just so tired of the bad Saturday morning action cartoon DiC side of Naruto. Don’t tease me with action and fights when it’s all so contrived, poorly animated, and laughably motivated.

  Noelle: High point, the haunted house episode. As fun as actual supernatural stuff is, finding out that something is totally ridiculous instead is just as fun. Low point, if I ever have to think of the Princess Fuku episode again, it’ll be too soon.

  Danni: My high point was easily when Hinata straight up killed a guy by burying him alive in his own jutsu without even batting an eye. She’s low-key cold-blooded when the chips are down. As for my low point, obviously it’s the Princess Fuku episode, even if it did give me lots of randomly inserted English and an evergreen line about not discriminating based on color.

  Jared: High points would be Hinata getting a good bit of time to be super rad, the weird headshots Tsunade had of Lee, Tenten, Neji, and Naruto when she was doing her fake arms bit, Lee just randomly seeing a dojo challenge and thinking that’s a brilliant idea, flesh castle, and that ska ending. Low points would obviously be the Princess Fuku episode, end of the Land of Greens arc, and seeing multiple themes repeated that we’ve already seen in the filler.

  David: Totally agree on the high point being Hinata being completely awesome this week (I put it down as something I was highly looking forward to last week and it didn’t disappoint.) The low point is of course Princess Fuku, but it probably deserves an award for being the lowest point of this entire run so far.

  Carolyn: Yeah, how could the low be anything but that episode. Most specifically for me, Naruto being totally shocked that two people he considers heavy being in love as if that couldn’t possibly happen. And also … how old is Ino? Because … uh … High point: Rock Lee lives by his own rules! That’s not how medical science works, my dude. That line was hilarious.

    COUNTERS:

Ramen: 3 bowls Hokage: 0 Clones: 22 + 1 uncountable scene

  Total so far:

Ramen: 185 bowls, 13 cups Hokage: 62 Clones: 811

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-Finally, NICOLE MEJIAS guides us through the end of the Gantetsu Escort Mission!

CATCH UP ON THE REWATCH!

Episodes 183-189: No Laughter Allowed!

Episodes 176-182: Reach for the Stars!

Episodes 169-175: Anko’s Backstory At Sea

Episodes 162-168: The Tale of the Phantom Samurai

Episodes 155-161: Quickfire Curry

Episodes 148-154: The Forest is Abuzz With Ninjas

Episodes 141-147: Mizuki Strikes Back!

Episodes 134-140: The Climactic Clash

Episodes 127-133: Naruto vs Sasuke

Episodes 120-126: The Sand Siblings Return

Episodes 113-119: Operation Rescue Sasuke

Episodes 106-112: Sasuke Goes Rogue

Episodes 99-105: Trouble in the Land of Tea

Episodes 92-98: Clash of the Sannin

Episodes 85-91: A Life-Changing Decision

Episodes 78-84: The Fall of a Legend

Episodes 71-77: Sands of Sorrow

Episodes 64-70: Crashing the Chunin Exam

Episodes 57-63: Family Feud

Episodes 50-56: Rock Lee Rally

Episodes 43-49: The Gate

Episodes 36-42: Through the Woods

Episodes 29-35: Sakura Unleashed

Episodes 22-28: Chunin Exams Kickoff

Episodes 15-21: Leaving the Land of Waves

Episodes 8-14: Beginners' Battle

Episodes 1-7: I'm Gonna Be the Hokage!

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Eh? What? There is no indication that incest is required to keep bloodline traits. Every marriage for the past several hundred years would bring in new blood if everyone kept it in the clan youd be fucking your sister/cousin/second cousin in a single generation.

Its implied that some clans like the hyuuga did try their best meaning 1st or second cousins when possible. And its implied thats part of an archaic and WRONG culture that resulted in things like the hyuuga cursed mark and Hinatas abusive upbringing.

I think its pretty obvious that based on all the lore that all one needs is the genes to manifest. That some uchiha never manifest the sharingan because they got mostly non uchiha genes or the ones they did get werent particularly strong. Sasuke belonged to a strong bloodline meaning that Sarada would have gotten her uchiha genes from one of the strongest uchiha. Similarly while i do feel Boruto resembles a fanfiction oc its true that there isnt much precident for what happens when u mix a uzumaki, the bloodline with the stribgest chakra, with a weak version of the hyuga bloodline. Like i thought it was obvious . Himari takes after her mother and boruto takes after his father but they still benefit from the other parents genes.

Also. Yea the writers do what they want with their story. Its all made up and the writer wanted to quit before boruto from what i hear. The story doesnt belong to u and pretty sure u know less about the characters than them

Tbh the new generation ruined what the clan system meant. All these kids are halflings and they don't even look like they belong in their clan. You can't tell that Boruto is part Hyuuga and so on. The writers pick and choose what clan tecnique to give them when in sarada's case it's flawed as only pure uchiha can use fire ball jutsu & have the kekkei genkai, same for the hyuuga too. This goes for all these halfies. Sasuke probably would've & should've married in his clan if they didn't all die.

Actually Boruto wears Hyuga Crest on his shirt underneath his jacket and both he and Hima know the gentle fist. Important note - Hinata is a direct descendant of Hamura Otsutsuki and Naruto of his brother Hagoromo so I don’t have a problem with them having Hyuga Kekkei Genkai. (Since Kaguya, mother of Hamura and Hagoromo, had it first)

But Sarada makes no sense whatsoever, she’s just randomly given techniques out of blue. Only explanation for her to have Sharingan is that Orochimaru had his hands in that

And yeah Sasuke would have married Uchiha if his clan were alive.