#+ i just know no one will understand anyways bc my aroace identity is never taken too seriously & aphobia is way too normalized
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bleu-sang · 1 year ago
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I wish I had someone to talk about how much amatonormativity traumatized me
Not only when I was a kid and grew up scared that my parents would abandon me because people would keep asking me if they "started a new life" but didn't get it was romantically speaking and really thought they were gonna leave town and forget about me
Or not just because as a teen everyone started dating and caring about romantic shits that I couldn't understand and I felt this suffocating pressure that I had to become like them if I wanted to be accepted/normal
But mostly because I am terrified to be seen as an object that can be used and discarded without my consent because I "just don't know" what I'm "missing out" or I "just didn't find the right person yet" or I "just had bad experiences and need to get over it with someone new"
The only message I seem to get from amatonormativity is that my life is worthless if I don't have someone to share it with (romantically & sexually) and that romance and sex can be forced upon me if I don't act like I want them
And it's so scary. It's so so scary.
To know that my life has no value and that I deserve to experience traumatic stuffs to "cure" me
To know that anyone could want that from me and that it wouldn't be acceptable to say "no" because my body is disposable and belongs more to others than it does to me since I just "don't know" that I want to say "yes" yet
And all I'm left with is a bunch of trust issues because anyone I meet could turn on me at any moment and it would be socially acceptable.
Anyone could discard me to "start a new life" with someone that want the same things as them (romance and sex)
Anyone I meet could hit on me and ask stuffs from me that I cannot give them and I would almost always be the bad guy for rejecting them and I know that they could force me and that I wouldn't be taken seriously if anything happened
I don't know, maybe it's just the invisible poc aroace trans neurodivergent otherkin fem-looking ghost in me who's too used to be not acknowledged talking but I think something is deeply wrong with this society and I will not feel safe until it's done right.
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animarret · 7 months ago
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Ranting about aroace exclusionists a bit: tl:dr my issue is not even the exclusion at this point, it's the lack of respect for ace and/or aro experiences and identity.
Saw one of those whole "should aces belong in queer spaces" debates making the rounds and it got me thinking about some exclu points like. Notably one I kept seeing was along the lines of not feeling safe in queer spaces with "straight" people and like. Okay. We have different ideas of queerness but I sympathize with the sentiment even if I disagree. But it got me thinking about how, if a space is mostly exclusionist towards aces and aros... why would we (aces and/or aros) be there anyway?
Like, I as a queer person (nonbinary and romantically ??? Something not straight) and also as an ace, I know I wouldn't be comfortable in a space like that, even if my more acceptably queer identities were fine there. Because in my experience exclus, kind or not, aren't understanding enough of ace experiences to where I could see that part of me being accepted enough to be open about it.
If any exclus read this for whatever reason: are you as normal about aces and aros as you think? Do you *actually listen* to us? Bc most I've encountered 1) don't have pretty basic definitions of identities on those spectrums correct (aromantic is never mentioned? Gray or demi labels? Hell half the time the definition of ace is wrong), and by extension downplay and dismiss ace and aro experiences. Not even just about like, people being bullied or the more oppressive experiences like that. But like, do you realize that being ace and/or aro can just affect everyday shit?? Shows and movies I like and why are affected by this. The way I practice my religion is affected by my aceness. It is, in fact, an important part of me that is reflected in everything I do. And AVEN is a website, guys. Cmon.
My point is, why would I waste time in a space where the people (no matter how many times you say "aces are valid!!! Just not lgbt") consistently show a complete lack of care or willingness to actually learn about or understand mine and other's experiences? Why would I feel comfortable or safe, even, being in a group that not only doesn't understand asexuality, but isn't willing to try (as friends, comrades, community, etc) to understand me, as an asexual person?
I'm not invading exclu lgbt spaces because I have better friends and allies than that. I have better places to be.
And if you're exclusionist and me asking/saying these things bothers you, maybe make a better effort to be allies to aces and aros. Because for all your talk about us and your valid posts I don't see you making an effort for us. Do better!! Prove me wrong!! Make me eat my angry words!! Want us out? Support ace and aro spaces then! Get our fucking words right! Listen to us!
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psychoticwillgraham · 9 months ago
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musings about my aroace identity under here
TW: discussion of rape
so. the ace part of my identity is really…. Weird to me bc I don’t actually understand it?? I’ll explain. am I sexually attracted to people? nope. not one bit. was I a massive whore for ten years? yeah, but it wasn’t of my own choice, my ex made that decision for me. said if I was gonna be with him then I HAD to be polyamorous and willing to have sex with any man that propositioned me and I was ordered to do so otherwise I’d get punished (which was tying my hands together and I made it explicitly clear to NEVER tie them bc then I’d be truly helpless and couldn’t fight back. he didn’t care.) did that ruin the act of sex for me from then till now? oh absolutely.
did I actually enjoy it? depends. i very rarely ever came, and if i did and was too oversensitive, they’d just keep going, so it was never enjoyable. the vast majority of men didn’t even know how to really give an afab person pleasure, so yknow, i had to fake it to make it. which i was way too good at and eventually convinced myself to get into it and come anyway, so I basically trained myself to ‘enjoy’ it. at this point, i don’t think that I’ll ever be able to have sex again, even if it wasn’t with a cis man, bc it just felt like a job, which it kinda was bc i had to do it to survive the abuse. it was just another way of performing honestly. if someone even tried to touch me with sexual intent now, I’d get triggered and have an emotional breakdown. so no, I don’t enjoy it.
my aromantic identity is fairly straightforward though. I’ve never felt like I could love anyone, even as a friend. there’s only one friend that I ‘love’ and it’s the one irl who hangs out with me sometimes. like I care about her very much, but I wouldn’t even say I ‘love’ her as a friend. bc I just don’t know what love feels like honestly. and I’ve never been ‘in’ love with someone, I just can’t comprehend it honestly. I just… don’t feel connected with humanity or the concept of it as a whole, yknow? I feel like I exist outside of that, like im just a Thing of my own, wholly unique and not connected to human beings. like im completely alone and an ‘other.’
that also feeds into my lack of identity and not knowing my own personality or who I am as a person at all, which DID also complicates. i feel like my entire life is just one big performance. like my personality is just whatever i need in order to exist with the general population. do i rlly know who or what i am? not in the least bit and i feel like im just drowning rn in the whole performance that is life. honestly? I don’t think there even is a person under all this. im just a gathering of ideas in a flesh prison and nothing more.
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cowboymantis · 5 months ago
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Started this pretty much immediately when I saw the post! :D
So here is my journey so far! Decided to stop for today (well, it's already tomorrow technically...) since it's 4 am, but I had a lot of fun already :3
I wrote this separately in a notes app, while I was playing, so I'll be just pasting it here:
First of aaaall, I'll give a short comment on the extra PDF:
Advanced Documents for the Board Overseeing Archaeological Research Department
As someone who is familiar with Blade, I tried to put myself into the shoes into someone who has never heard of it, so I think even with this bias it looks very understandable for newcomers to Blade!
Okay, now to the main thing!
I loved the description of the Undead as furries, realistically people would totally first think they are furries (goes with any Tokumon really) 😭
Before I started, I was getting ready and making it look all aesthetic, fully knowing I won't use my epic Oneus card deck from the Trickster album bc it's not a full suit, also fully knowing I won't need all the other dice but they just cool for the photo :3
(Future note: My notebook here has a lot of random information in it, like world times, different currencies of the world, a world map, etc, which is really cool! But now I noticed oh wow it actually lowkey influenced me in my character creation, love the subliminal messages from my own equipment)
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Creating a character
Since I am writing those notes, in real time while I am playing the game, I just want to say, the "Thoughts on anti-homeless architecture?" questions in the character creation was a jumpscare. 😭😭 Well we'll see how relevant this will become in the future, I guess... But you're on thin ice 👁👁
Anyway, for the character I tried to make it a bit quick, since I wanted to get to the game fairly quickly to test it out. But the questions about creating the character gave me a lot of inspiration so I sat a bit longer on the making! I guess it's just like the character creation in video games, you end up spending way too much time on it. 😭
He's got some characteristics from me, but at the end everything else, like abilities and origin are mostly OC, in general just more focus on existing in a Kamen Rider world!
So yeah, my rough character sketch:
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Put it in more of a cute almost chibi style so I don't spend too long on the drawing kdjdjd
Btw... The name is a BIIIT of a refference to Ravn from Oneus, bc I had to think of them with the card deck staring at me, and I love Ravn, so yay!
His last name's meaning is something along the lines of "peaceful warrior", which I think fit perfectly for the character :)
Also, I tried for the first time to draw an OC Kamen Rider design, I'm not sure yet if I will even go that route, but I just thought it would be cool to have :3 Loosely inspired by the Cobra Undead, since I love snakes and it's my Chinese zodiac funnily enough, and going for the obvious (Mantis Undead) felt kind of weird given Hajime exists lmaoo 😭 He stole not only that humans identity, no, MINE TOO!!! I AM MANTIS!!!
Anyway, let's get to that character lore:
Raven Humphrey
[he/him, aroace which is completely unrelated but I just want to specify it so there is one more aroace character on this planet 🙏]
Age: 34
Origin: Alaska
BOARD:
- just newly joined BOARD as a Kamen Rider in training
- saw weird people in suits fighting monsters, was immediately intrigued, so he followed them, ended up being the one attacked by an Undead, actually tried to fight back, until he got rescued by the suited people and got ridiculed for doing such a dangerous thing. Wouldn't stop pestering them until they told him what they were and now he somehow ended up training to be a Kamen Rider
- is very fascinated by the Undead, thinks they're actually kinda cute! Thinks fighting them looks fun, but is kind of sad about the only option to interact with them to be hostile, so he likes to imagine different possibilities how to interact otherwise
Even has a small notebook where he has a lot of sketches of the Undead he encounters
- is, like any decent person, very much against anti-homeless architecture and gets kind of sad whenever he sees it
Before BOARD/backstory/overall character:
- grew up in Alaska, was always rather quiet, but easy to make friends with once you get to know him. He's rather introverted though, so he never really went on too many activities during his childhood
- doesn't have the best relationship with most of his family (probably bc they want grandchildren or something), but is still in contact with his older sister from time to time
- nowadays generally prefers peace and quiet over everything else, but has been doing Judo from an early age, later on started fencing, then archery. So while he is regularly more of a pacifist, he can get heated in a fun battle and his old battle spirit gets ignited!
- actually got heavily in trouble in high school for knocking out someone cold in a battle THEY started and didn't expect him to fight back. From then on spiraled into a bit of a street fight phase, got thrown out of his Judo team due to that
- normally is rather logical and tries to see things through, but also always tries to see the best in things and the best in people, since he went through a rough depressive episode during his teenage years (probably the major factor of his more aggresive behaviour during that time) and since then managed to come out more positive and controls his anger well now
- worked a bunch of different jobs you can do from anywhere (like writing books, doing journalism or photo/video editing, which back then definetly wasn't something just anyone could do!), so he could travel the world a lot, in the countries he stayed he would also sometimes work in random establishments, primarily works with heavy lifting since he's quite strong and also doesn't need to talk too much in those (helpful when you're introverted and not an expert at a language)
- in general is just interested in many things and loves to learn about new stuff
- really liked it in Japan, always loved different movies and shows from there, especially when they had fighting, and decided to study the language more in-depth and live there for a while (since all of this Kamen Rider stuff is happening, seems like he'll be staying there for a bit longer!)
Special skills:
- martial arts, different weapon fighting skills and also quite strong
- skilled in first aid (very useful and needed when you're travelling alone all across the world)
- very cold resistant due to growing up in Alaska
- I guess it is kind of a special skill, stays cool most of the time (no Alaska joke inteded) and its very hard to rile him up nowadays
- speaks a bit of multiple languages
- different computer skills
Relationship to the other characters:
Kenzaki:
- thinks very positively of him, while they haven't talked too much, he thinks Kenzaki is a good person, maybe even a bit too good given how naive he seems, but appreciates that there are people like this
Shiori
- probably interacted with her the most so far, since he's very interested in the Undead and their story. Overall the easiest to talk to for him, maybe because she almost feels like a little sister
Kotaro
- thinks he's a bit silly, but alright other than that (but the obsession with milk is, no offense, kind of disgusting)
Hajime
- thinks he's an alright guy, but they never really talk. Probably all of their conversations would just consist of silence since none of them would want to be the first one to talk
Tachibana:
- isn't so sure how to feel about him, since he seems a bit unstable, but trusts him anyway, since he and Kenzaki were the ones saving Raven back then from the Undead, so in a way he feels like he owes them trust
Mutsuki
- thinks he means well overall, but sees him as a bit annoying, but that's just how teenagers are. He'll hopefully grow out of it
Everyone else not named: neutral
Position in house:
Second floor, his room is filled with different bits and bops from all the places Raven has visited and immediately looked very lived in!
Now, finally getting into the gameplay!!!
Already like the system with different tasks and how cards are being used to determine what you're going to be up to for the day!
Also damn!! Started off with some great RNG, get to do 3 tasks!
For those, I pulled K, Q and Joker!
(Live Mantis reaction:
Okay let's see what task K is- OH MY GOD)
Anyway, Day 1 from the perspective of my character now, imagine him reminiscing or writing about the day in a journal:
"This day was certainly off to a rather weird start! I finally finished packing all of my belongings in the temporary farmhouse home, and it seemed like a quiet moment for once, so I went out for a walk to get my mind off things. So much happened all at once, it's only natural you need a bit of a time out, right?
Well, seems like the universe had other plans... For some reason, this weird guy claiming to work for the IRS just kept on bothering me. Not sure how he knew me, IF he even knew me (I didn't ask about my name at all) or if he even was IRS.
It was rather annoying, but thankfully, I just started to talk English, which he didn't seem to understand, and act like a confused tourist. Which probably just confused him more in turn, since he just completely stopped trying to annoy me at all.
Guess that's one way to get rid of the IRS (don't try this at home kids!)
Being sure that weird man went away, I continued my journey around the city. And I went down this really idyllic forest path, when I set my sights on an absolute abomination. Such a beautiful bench, ruined by an ugly metal bar in the middle. Surely, this was just to prevent homeless people from sleeping on it. Not even that, it also looked absolutely hideous.
Now, I normally try to stay calm, but I just couldn't, it infuriated me so much, I just HAD to get rid of those. I'm sure I'd be doing a favour to everyone.
Thankfully, it wasn't to hard for me to get them off the benches, but when I was just finished with a second one, an officer spotted me! And I was so stupid and held the other one still in my hand, thinking I could recycle it into a cool makeshift weapon or something else. But it just ended up exposing me further and the cop watched me put both of them back again... Ah, well I guess all I got was a warning.
Eventually, I decided to just give up and go back home anyway, away from scammers and police."
Adding to the Joker Task: Omg this reminds me so much of one of my favourite dramas, SPEC: Birth, where one of the protagonist always throws a bunch of paper in the air (it has a point there but the mental image I got from this task just reminded me of it!)
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Also, just trying to make sure, but I'm fairly certain this isn't canon/included in the story, since it is a "safe", aka a joker task?
DAY 2
Exciting, my first Undead Encounter!
Also, I keep accidentally writing Unded 💀 My brain is rotting from the internet I swear
Omg, I got a King of Clubs 😭 Tarantula Undead... Guess that's probably the most fitting first encounter for my character (well, Shima to be more specific bc he's also rather chill)
But that also means no fighting!
"Yesterday I pretty much just fell into my bed, exhausted from everything and then those weird encounters on my walk. I'm not gonna lie, I was feeling a bit down this morning and just wandered around the house a bit.
Eventually I started to get into a little chat with Shima, who also was around at the time. I never really actually got to talk with him, so I didn't know he was so chill! If anything, it just further proves my theories that Undead don't necessarily have to be fought. It makes me wonder if there are any other Undead like him..."
DAY 3
I didn't roll an Encounter, so I thought it would be a fitting idea to make my character look for an Undead, after a conversation with Shima he might be encouraged to try and look for Undead to potentially befriend.
And...Oh boy we'll see if this will go horribly wrong or if he gets lucky for once!
And yes, I actually got an Encounter and pulled 7 of Hearts. SO CLOSE to 8 Hearts! Why do I care about 8 Hearts? Bc now I have Welcome To Hell stuck in my head, aka the boss theme of 8 Hearts in No More Heroes Travis Strikes Again... the boss also likes to say RIDER KICK when attacking you, so I guess it's all connected somehow-
Anyway, I got distracted again!!!
"Today, I was feeling rather optimistic! Talking with Shima gave me some new hope again, and especially ensures me that it's not impossible to get along with different Undead. Obviously, since my training isn't complete, it's not recommended I go and look for Undead myself, so Mutsuki was sent by Tachibana to follow me, since he somehow knew my intentions for leaving. Ah well. I mean, the kid isn't bad (I think), but edgy teens like him are the exact reason I don't ever want to be a parent. No offense, but I just couldn't handle this all day.
One day though, I guess that's fine. Or rather, part of one day.
We were walking through a park, when suddenly, I felt like something held me back! And there I noticed, something was tangled around my ankle, I could just about stop myself from tripping.
Didn't take me long to realize it was an Undead, because it revealed itself, probably trying to squish me, thankfully Mutsuki quickly reacted and punched it away.
This encounter definetly didn't start off friendly, but I tried my best talking to it! I'm... honestly not sure if it understood me or just chose to ignore me, but I felt like talking to a wall. I guess it was annoying even Mutsuki, since he told me to just leave it to him, eventually defeating the Undead and sealing it.
Honestly, I was a bit frustrated. I told him we could've tried harder, he answered it just won't listen. Eventually, he just threw the card at me and told me I can always try and talk to it this in there, not that it would know.
Now I'm home again, staring at this card while writing... I'm... not sure how this made me feel. I guess, some Undead just have to be fought because they have a more violent nature.
It definetly sucks, but I'm also not saying no to an exiting fight..."
Having the Plant Undead as an encounter while Raven was trying to look for one to befriend was definitely kind of funny. I was trying to think, but I just don't think that's an Undead you can befriend. Not saying it's impossible! Just maybe for my character :'D Also it's a good character development moment where he learns early on how different the Undead can be!
DAY 4
Another day with tasks, 3 again and... JOKER AGAIN??? Like damn I know the Joker Undead is one of my favourite designs ever but damn...
Anyway, I got Joker, 3, 6!
"I guess I woke up rather early today, I just was very exhausted after yesterday, once again! But I decided to do something nice for everyone and prepare breakfast today!
There was this dish that wouldn't leave my mind ever since I tried it in a breakfast menu in Germany! To be honest, I had to look up what it was called in my journals: Kaiserschmarrn.
But I absolutely wanted to try and recreate it, so more people can experience it.
It's basically like a scrambled egg for pancakes, if that makes sense.
And, well, I guess it smelled very good because everyone was commenting on that, but once we tasted it... Yeah, I think I definetly mistook the salt for sugar...
I mean, because of the cinnamon sweetening it too, it wasn't aaawful, but it also wasn't good either. Funnily enough, I think Tachibana really liked it, which, I don't know if he acted like he did, out of sympathy, or he actually just has a weird taste.
Either way, I think in theory this recipe would've been nice, if I actually added sugar. Ah well, we'll see next time!"
Fun fact: I tried making Kaiserschmarrn the other day for the first time and I was amazed at how easy it was and everyone absolutely LOVED it, I inhaled everything off my plate in record time it was so good. So it went the exact opposite from what my character here experienced lmaooo this poor guy man 😭
I got the baseball practice next, and I just want to add: this is actually such a creative way to implement that training into this game!
"Later that day, Tachibana asked if I wanted to do baseball practice with him and Mutsuki.
...I knew exactly what that meant and no, I am not good at it. I don't even know why, with my skillset, hell, archery especially! I technically should be good at it, but it seems almost impossible to me.
But with everything, practice creates the master.
So I did join them, and I would say I was very average at it. And with average I mean about how good a regular person with no fighting experience would be at it.
I mean, I did guess some of them.
But I always impulsively punched them away, and I might've accidentally hit Mutsuki on the head with one!
Now, I am not one to start a fight or hold a grudge but all I'll say this is payback for him being so stubborn with the Plant Undead. Yes, I am still thinking about that. Yes, I do think mayyybe it was possible to befriend it.
Either way, I think all things considered, and the unfortunate happenings aside, today was quite fun."
It's funny, the ONE character my character was a bit negative towards (Mutsuki) is now one he keeps on having to interact with, like a kid having to babysit his smaller brother 😭😭😭
NEXT TIME ON OWO, THERE WILL BE AMONG US... (Yes I rolled that task)
But for now, it's sleepy time.
As a last visualization, page 1 from today and my setup dkdjdj
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Hopefully me going through my experience like this kind of shows the thought process of someone who did not make the game and just goes after the instructions, however here are some things I haven't explicitly listed during my playthrough, and just thought about later on:
I started to kind of question this when my first real fight started:
Does your character have Kamen Rider abilies in the fights?
Or just the characters that help you?
When an Undead gets sealed, does your character get the card? (aka can you freely decide?)
If your character has Kamen Rider abilities, do you just make up a new Category Ace Undead card for them (however that would work logically)?
Obviously, a lot of things are open for interpretation, since it's all about telling your own story with vague instructions, and at the end of the day you can literally do what you want, but I was just very unsure about those points personally, and if they were intended in a certain way, or if you're completely free to go Kamen Rider fighting route (wether it is from beginning on or during your journey)!
Version 1 of the Kamen Rider Blade Solo Journal RPG project is now up!
I'll be posting the link in a reblog of this post in a second. This is my first time making one of these, so any constructive criticism is very, very much recommended. I hope you enjoy trying it out! And if there's any issues with the gameplay, please let me know immediately. Thank you!
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thoughtsdying · 3 years ago
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Being aroace is coming out to your mother in front of her friends in the midst of a discussion about what being asexual or arromantic even means, because while you were trying to correct the assumptions made (basically asexuality is no libido ever and aromanticism sounds very suspicious and like asexual people are aro anyway, they don’t want relationships which like, what the basic uneducated allo thinks) giving away only that you’ve read on it an “us” slipped in and then everyone is like looking at you and you say
“well yes i’m asexual, so i know what i’m talking about”
and your mother is like “since when, i know you have like a working libido” (thanks mom thats more i ever wanted to know about you aknowloeging the fact i masturbate).
and you go like “from a year ago more or less”
and also she says “why didn’t you tell me? i fear you’re saying that because you feel disconnected from other people you need to trust more not evade yourself from reality”
and then someone, all the someones else are “oh, but if you have a libido you’re repressing, that’s celibacy” “really, no attraction at all? and what if you see someone cute?”
and you go “asexuality is lack of attraction not of sexual desire. and i think they aesthetically cute and move on with my life? there’s no need or impulse for something more?”
and they “but what if you’re like. attracted intelectually? sapiosexuality is a thing right”
and then you go again “then i want to talk and be friends? that doesn’t have anything to do with sexuality for most people?”
and you freak out and walk out almost crying after another round of the same, from your mother. and she walks away towards you. and well maybe your mother now thinks you’re an even bigger weirdo with attachement issues, but she respects the label bc celibacy and abstinenece and nirvana i guess, as she would respect if i were to be a monk or something (which. no. that’s not the thing. that’s not what it means mom why do you think that?)
and she goes “but really did you have to react so badly when everyone started asking questions and go out so dramatically? why are you so sad, aren’t gay or trans kids proud of coming out bc they’re secure on their identities?”
well mom. i’m pretty sure most were lowkey terrified and cried even if only of relief or something, but being asexual has just gotten me being condescended to by you bc you think is an option i’ll grow out off once i pass my twenties, and also maybe the fact of impulsively coming out in front of a lot of well-meannig clueless people asking lots of questions about why asexuality/aromanticism made no sense to them including you, felt invalidating to me, right?
i’m sure it had nothing to do with why i never told you although the word was on my radar since my mid teens-
maybe i can be irrationaly emotional about something that’s so personal being dissected in front of others when you’re also since i was a teen being worried about me being more “social, normal, assertive” and just before going to that lunch you told your early twenties daughter who has more than once broken down crying bc she doesn’t understand how to connect with people to act less autistic out of nowhere (i really am not on the spectrum i felt, but maybe on the adhd one) and quit with the serious face and the headphones and the avoidance.
maybe i came only partially came out, not that it matters to you when you already think asexuality is not wanting to ever be in a relationship, ever, so, the same of aromanticism, and i didn’t even try to explain more, bc i don’t want to be dissected by you and told “oh, you’re just an snowflake and the fact you cried on me means you’re unhappy with the label not like all those other out lgbt teens young adults i know, so like you just need to go to the psychologist like you were trying to do just after the pandemic and before, see if you have issues with the adhd or the inteligence or somehting”
thanks a lot mom.
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5typesoftrash · 3 years ago
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warning: this is going to be a long post. transphobia and bigotry under the cut
I am posting this rebuttal of a person who got (hilariously) angry at someone who Does Not Care (me) and wrote an entire-ass essay on this post because apparently this is how I spend my time. Defending my identity which does not need to be defended because it is immutable from transphobic trolls who won’t even see it cause they’re blocked from this account.
Anyway. Be careful looking under the cut.
TERFs, gender-crits, radical feminists, transmeds, nb-exclus, anti-mogai, and anyone else whose ideology promotes transphobia and/or trans erasure, please kindly do not fucking touch this post. I am not kidding when I say that I will report you all to tumblr for hate speech if it takes me all fucking night.
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Two screenshots of a reblog from tumblr user homosexual-means-gay. The post reads:
please tell me how literally every single gay man being repulsed by ppl with vaginas hurts you! tell us why it’s a problem gay ppl aren’t attracted to the opposite sex like straight and bi ppl are!
homosexuality isn’t a political movement it’s a regular natural innate sexuality. gay men aren’t attracted to biological females and it hurts gay ppl when you side with conversion therapists and it hurts bisexual ppl who actually are attracted to both sexes when you erase them for your homophobic agenda. you’re not a victim. you’re happy to eliminate homosexuality from existence as long as you’re able to reinforce heteronormative gender roles the gay community has always opposed. your bigotry harms trans homosexuals too, not that you transhets care about the gay trans ppl either.
erased from history? you want gay ppl correctively raped out of existence bc you love socially constructed gender roles more than human rights. you deserve all the hate you put out into the world. im sorry our innate orientation and culture prove how flimsy and useless the gender roles you define yourself by are, but homophobia will not improve your self esteem. you’re driving away ppl who would be happy to support your made up identity by attacking how we were born same sex attracted. sorry you can’t relate bc you’re straight. sorry you think you can use your privilege against us. but it’s not something we’re doing to you. it’s not something we can change and it’s not something we want to change. there’s never been a gay man in existence who likes pussy, not even the gay trans women like marsha p johnson and sylvia rivera. you’re a sad little straight girl alienating all potential allies.
hurting us doesn’t validate you. it doesn’t hurt you that no gay man will ever like pussy.
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(If someone wants to do a better ID that’s fine, I just wanted to put everyone on an equal playing field when it comes to understanding the content of this post.)
I’m going to go line-by-line and refute every single bullshit thing this person said.
> please tell me how literally every single gay man being repulsed by ppl with vaginas hurts you!
factoid actually just statistical error. TERF Tommy, who has committed multiple transphobic hate crimes, is an outlier and should not have been counted. I know many cis gay men who are attracted to trans men because they are MEN, not because of the genitalia they have. And I know you want to say ‘that makes them bi’, but no, it doesn’t. You want to accuse me of homophobia? Telling another gay person that their identity is invalid just because they express it in a different way than you do is literal homophobia.
>  tell us why it’s a problem gay ppl aren’t attracted to the opposite sex like straight and bi ppl are!
because... some are? And you don’t speak for the entire gay community? Especially not the other side of it, for the opposite binary gender than yours.
>  homosexuality isn’t a political movement it’s a regular natural innate sexuality.
and transness isn’t a political movement either, it is a regular natural and innate gender identity. You know that gender identity is inherent, right? When people say ‘gender is a social construct’ all that means is that it is not a natural thing. Humans created the concept of gender and assigned value to it based on what we could perceive as a means of giving order to the world around us. That doesn’t mean that it isn’t important and it doesn’t mean that there aren’t parts of it that are inherent to individuals.
>  gay men aren’t attracted to biological females and it hurts gay ppl when you side with conversion therapists and it hurts bisexual ppl who actually are attracted to both sexes when you erase them for your homophobic agenda.
I’m sorry this is literally incoherent. To reiterate: some gay men ARE attracted to assigned females. Yes, siding with conversion therapists hurts gay people. No, I am not siding with conversion therapists. I have never once stated -- in fact, the entire point of my post was the opposite of this -- that anyone should EVER have sexual interactions with a person they don’t want to. Even if the reason for that is because they have a genital preference, which is NOT the same thing as a sexuality.
(I know I’ve been over this before but here it is again. A sexuality is a measure of what GENDER/S you want to have sex with. A genital preference is a measure of what genitalia you are willing to get all up close and personal with. Both are innate, one can be manipulated. They are not the same thing.)
Hurting bisexual people... hey, fellow bis, am I hurting you by *checks notes* existing in time and space?
>  you’re not a victim. you’re happy to eliminate homosexuality from existence as long as you’re able to reinforce heteronormative gender roles the gay community has always opposed.
I am literally A GAY PERSON. Even by YOUR MEASURE I am a victim. And I do NOT want to eliminate homosexuality, I just want people to acknowledge that language evolves and definitions can change as our society does. Also, have you ever met a trans person in real life? Because like 80% of all the trans people I’ve ever known have been gender non-conforming, so like. That invalidates that point. The trans community opposes gender roles as well.
>  your bigotry harms trans homosexuals too, not that you transhets care about the gay trans ppl either.
Please point to where it says I’m straight. Please. I want to see it.
>  erased from history? you want gay ppl correctively raped out of existence bc you love socially constructed gender roles more than human rights.
At this point I’m just repeating myself. Please see the above points for rebuttal.
>  you deserve all the hate you put out into the world. im sorry our innate orientation and culture prove how flimsy and useless the gender roles you define yourself by are, but homophobia will not improve your self esteem.
Says the person berating a minor for *flips notecard over* agreeing with them that people shouldn’t be forced into sex. I’m sorry that you’re so hurt and angry that you have to push your pain onto other people just to feel better. I genuinely am. It makes me so sad to see how much some people are hurting. But I won’t just sit and take this kind of verbal abuse. I don’t deserve it, quite frankly.
>  you’re driving away ppl who would be happy to support your made up identity by attacking how we were born same sex attracted.
I doubt anyone calling it a made-up identity wants to actually support me. Next.
>  sorry you can’t relate bc you’re straight. sorry you think you can use your privilege against us. but it’s not something we’re doing to you. it’s not something we can change and it’s not something we want to change.
Again. I am not straight. I do not have any straight privilege to use against anyone. Even if I was cis I still wouldn’t be straight because I’m aroace and attracted to anyone and everyone. My gender identity isn’t something that I can change, either. And even if I couldn’t, I wouldn’t want to. I love being a man, and I love being a trans man. 
>  there’s never been a gay man in existence who likes pussy, not even the gay trans women like marsha p johnson and sylvia rivera.
I’m sorry, WHAT. Marsha P Johnson and Sylvia Rivera can’t be both gay men and trans lesbians. Which one are they? You gotta pick, babe.
> you’re a sad little straight girl alienating all potential allies. hurting us doesn’t validate you. it doesn’t hurt you that no gay man will ever like pussy.
So am I a transhet or am I a straight girl? Also I’m not sad, I’m quite happy with where I’m at in my life. I do not feel validated by hurting anyone, because I don’t enjoy pain. I’m not masochistic or emotionless, I am in fact hyperempathetic due to my autism, and I don’t like it when anyone is hurt. This can be evidenced by this post here where I wish well upon a group of people who have directly hatecrimed me in the past. 
I will repeat that. I have literal trauma from physical violence as a result of the actions of this group of people, and I am still wishing them good things. 
Nor does it hurt me that ‘no gay man will ever like [AFAB genitalia]’ because this isn’t even a true statement. As I have mentioned previously, I know personally multiple gay men who are attracted to trans men. And reader, please note the fact that this person uses a slang term, a deliberately vulgar one, where in my original post I used the medical term ‘vagina’.
Hope this clears some things up.
TERFs, gender-crits, radical feminists, transmeds, nb-exclus, anti-mogai, and anyone else whose ideology promotes transphobia and/or trans erasure, please kindly STILL do not clown on this post. I am once again not kidding when I say that I will report you all to tumblr for hate speech if it takes me all fucking night.
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avenger-hawk · 4 years ago
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Hey hawk, did you observe a pattern among people who participate in Woke-ism culture, they seem to have similar "traits" and "personality"? Dislike the "straight" orientation (usually identify themselves as gay/lesbian/bi and brags they are LGBT every second), they seem to think gender identity is a personality trait etc therefore "I'm holier than thou because I list myself as she/he/they/it". I bet they are gonna scream at me for being whatever "phobic" just because of this post lol
*clears throat* yeah they gonna scream at you but they can’t scream at me because it’s been a year that I am in an lgbt relationship soooo xD
Ofc I noticed this kind of behavior, these woke ppl really like be ‘different’ and tbh the thing I find more irritating is when they define themselves ‘autistic’ or ‘asperger’ or ‘adhd’ whathever other mental illness/condition, because these are serious things that should be diagnosed by a specialist and not an online tests, and usually ppl who have a real problem are not so incredibly vocal about it. Sure they don’t brag with it....”but I don’t have money to take a test and my parents don’t let me!” they say? yeah. could be. but it also could be that you just wanna look special and since you’re socially anxious or shy or just a b*tch, you like to play rude and then justify yourself with those labels, and if someone dares tell you you’re a piece of shit you can call them ableist lol
Same for race or country. Not taking anything away from populations/countries/cultures/religions that have been oppressed, but sometimes I cringe cause some ppl try so hard to fit in this. Like, at some point 99% of populations were invaded by others and oppressed, and I’m sorry for welsh ppl, to just name one (no offense it’s the first that came to my mind cause I read a post recently lol) but if this continues we’re gonna have to seek justice for the victims of the vikings’ raids lolol
Anyway, back to what you were saying. I partly get that lgbt ppl are vocal about what they are bc maybe they can’t tell their families or friends, and they use social media as outlets. but like you said, your personality is not defined by who you f*ck and/or love (It’s not even defined by the fiction you like, actually, but they think so). So while I understand ppl describe themselves in their profile and specify their gender identity and sexuality, for me it’s cringey when they take it too far. Like when they start with all the labels ever, or they make combinations...demisexual panromantic/asexual demiromantic/trans nonbinary aroace spectrum...sounds like a competition of who’s less ordinary. Bonus points if they also add race and illness. Bonus points if they pretend they’re experts and activist and they shit on ppl who ship something or speak of top/bottom bc they’re fetishizing gay mlm/wlw and how dare they, dirty cishets (cause Anon, straight is a too banal word lol).
(also...not to offend ‘aroace’ ppl out there but...when someone is like 12...couldn’t it be that they’re just...too young for caring about sex/love? asking for a friend lolol)
I mean, tumblr has a lot of lgbt ppl and it’s cool, and I know it’s hard to live as an lgbt person cause you can’t do what het ppl do normally, like kissing in public or holding hands or writing cute posts on fb bc someone might bitch or be even worse, so this creates a bitterness and aggressiveness on social media I guess, especially here where minorities are the majority lol. And I too, on my personal blog, occasionally ranted about things like internalized homophobia and queerbaiting, but only very rarely lol and no one paid attention to me, guess I am not lgbt enough hahahah
But, it’s stupid to use sexuality labels as a shield to shit on ppl and then call them --phobic when they react. It actually happened to me a couple of years ago, I wrote something about bottom Sasuke and this self defined aromantic+asexual+autistic+gay american dude attacked me for fetishizing gays. Back then I was in a relationship with a guy so for him I was only a boring straight person I guess, a gross fujoshi who dared like mlm haha. fuck him. If I were the same type of person as him I would have pulled the oppressed card, I could have attacked him reminding him that his country treated italian immigrants like animals, and that they had this veeeery big problem of being unsure about our ‘race’ so in their papers they often wrote ? cause they couldn’t understand if we were poc or not...but it would have been kinda off topic and I cartainly don’t waste time talking about me to ppl I don’t even trust to be what they say.
Also because I was raised by parents who were very politically involved, so I remember them doing activism, like, getting out of the house, going to protests, doing volunteering, even taking me along when I was little. So even tho now everything happens online first, and even tho posts can spread awareness and change ppl’s minds, I still don’t trust when I see those blogs full of angry woke activism, because they seem fake and even those ppl seem fake. It’s easy to scream for justice from a keyboard, in a comfortable house. It’s less easy to protest in the cold, risking to have problems with the police, the government, the pandemic, whatever else.
It’s irritating that wokies want to take the right to like smth in the right way or whatever, telling everyone else who don’t fit in the minority group that they can’t like the thing. Idk, I just wish ppl were like in Eastern Asian fandoms, not making everything about themselves, being open minded enough for whatever ‘different’ thing whether they are into it or not, and if they’re not ignoring it only.
And I do get wanting to fit the minority, as a teenager I was veery punk/gothic, depending on the moment, and I never fit in the majority opinions or habits anyway. And I was kind of fluid with my identity and sexuality, but silly me, I kept it for myself, even tho I discussed with those who insulted lgbt ppl and I wrote stuff where everyone is bisexual by default, thinking that it was how people were born before society conditioned them...I could have bragged but I had no idea about ‘fluid’ or ‘pan’, silly me.
I am so irritated at everything, like the words they use, even the english language that is not mine, is getting on my nerves because it’s the vehicle for their crap, but these periodically trending words are disgusting like these ppl to me.
I migth have gone out of topic again lol.
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falling-chandeliers · 4 years ago
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this is unprompted but are you willing to share your lgbt headcanons for lok characters? 👀
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oh geez, not gonna lie i don’t really have my own, but i just agree with most of the fandom on theirs :/ @agenderbumi and @lesbiankya have some great ones though !!
so i guess these aren’t really mine but these are ones i believe in sorry :/
- demiboy meelo. a lot of people don’t see this bc of his young boy men-are-better attitude, but i really think they could question their gender later on in the show !!
- when meelo comes out to tenzin they’re a bit confused but supportive, bc tenzin mainly understands the male female & nonbinary genders, not really anything in between
- but then after some time and effort tenzin comes to understand and eventually starts questioning their own gender (i’m a firm believer in non-binary tenzin!!)
- tRANS LIN. i am a FIRM believer in trans lin. she suffered from internalized transphobia for a while, because she thought that all girls had to act very feminine and, well, girly. i also believe that kya helped her through her gender crisis, and helped lin realize that no, not all girls are feminine.
- demigirl kya. i don’t really know how to explain this but,,,,,, demigirl kya.
- i also feel like lin would be bi oriented aroace. like, she would def be in a QPR with kya, but for the longest time she thought she was broken for not wanting a “normal” romantic relationship am i projecting onto lin? you’ll never know
- bigender wu !! wu has two gender identities, one that is male and one that is non-binary, although they tend to stick to he/they pronouns. 
- i really love the idea of panromantic ace bolin & genderfluid opal!! similar to the demiboy meelo hc, bolin first doesn’t really understand opal’s gender identity, but after a lot of explaining he ends up getting a general grasp on the concept. he wakes opal up every day w good morning kisses & then asks them for their pronouns. also along the way, bolin realized that oh shit, i am not just attracted to girls why is everyone so amazing
- bolin is definitely a major “I LOVE MY SPOUSE” husband, whether you hc opal as cis or not dsfjsfsdf and we love him for that
- everyone on team avatar is bi with the exception of bolin, who is a raging panromantic. asami has a preference for girls, korra for strong people in general (you can fight me on this), and mako has just recently discovered that yes, he is allowed to be attracted to boys. i hc him as a very deeply repressed bi, and that was partly why his earlier relationships were so awkward bc emotions??? he knows them, just doesn’t understand them.
sdkjfhjsdkf yeah anyways i lied i just came up with all of these ones rn (except for the last one) but if i accidentally stole someone hc i’m sorry :(
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lizzieraindrops · 8 years ago
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sally grissom
part of advanced PLACEMENT: an ars PARADOXICA high school au about a gang of queer teen nerds, by @estherroberts​ , @podcastmecaptain , and @lizzieraindrops
all three of the aformentioned dorks are responsible for the hijinks found in this post. @lizzieraindrops especially for this one
click here for the au masterpost | track #ars placement for updates! ALSO: things aren’t always showing up in the tags, so your most reliable bet is the aforementioned masterpost.
this is one of many individualized advanced PLACEMENT works, for stories of each character involved. we each wrote the story that we each post, with input from the others.
IMPORTANT NOTE: sally is deliberately written as aroace (aromantic and asexual) for the purposes of this au, but this particular individual representation of this orientation may not look quite like what you’re expecting. please see the separate post i made discussing why that is for further information.
sally grissom grew up on a farm in iowa in a town even smaller than point-of-exile, trying to construct rube goldberg machines out of cornstalks and accidentally starting more than one crop circle conspiracy theory
she got moved up a grade way back in second because she’s really bright, so not only is she Younger than everyone, she is even Smoller
literally always the scrawniest tiniest in class
she didn’t really get along with most of the kids, they thought she was weird and tended to ignore her
which was not fun but still preferable to active bullying, although she wonders sometimes if the only reason it didn’t escalate was because she was good at keeping to herself and out of the way
she actually enjoys her own company over that of most people, but she definitely gets lonely, too
but there was one girl who actually asked sally why she was eating raisins on tortilla chips instead of laughing at her
and actually tried the raisin-laden chip sally offered her and pronounced it “not bad,” even though she never tried it again
she became sally’s absolute best friend
and sally felt like she had everything she really needed
tiny sally never really thought much about boys, or girls, or dating, or anything
she’s always been more preoccupied by just existing. it’s a complicated but exciting business, existence, even and perhaps especially when you’re small, and just look at all the other things that be out here existing in the world, it’s incredible
science and especially the field of physics appealed to her from a very young age, because at heart and in the right hands, it’s the pursuit of understanding, tiny piece by tiny piece, how the existing world works at a very deep level, and she finds that incredibly satisfying
she’s always been pretty happy and fulfilled by just bopping along doing her own thing as she moves through the world
but she got increasingly uneasy as she got older and everyone around her started obsessing about things she found relatively uninteresting compared to the miracles of the workings of the universe, and looked at her like there was something wrong with her when she said so
eventually she learned to deflect attention when people asked who she had a crush on or who she thought was cute
because she didn’t have an answer, and she knew that not having an answer was the Wrong answer, because it’s a witch hunt question. if you don't answer it Properly, you're hiding something, and your accuser definitely knows what it is better than you do
she just wanted to tinker with her projects and learn about the world and spend her time with her best friend who was so near and dear to her, why was everyone talking about kissing and sex and ??? expecting her to Do something about it, whether she wanted to or not
“why on earth would i want to kiss a boy when i could be hanging out with you and wiring more LEDs onto my halloween costume. I’m gonna look badass this year”
this friend, she was sally’s everything, and that was never a problem
until everything and everyone changed around her
(even her)
(long before she lost her, sally knew she was losing her to whatever inexorable forces were changing everything and she could neither understand it nor stop it)
and then, sally had to move to colorado the summer before 8th grade, relocating for one of her parents’ jobs
and everything was gone
no; sally was gone. and she wasn’t going to be able to go back.
she was dropped into the point-of-exile school system just too late to get to know the current batch of junior high kids, and too early to make a fresh start of it going into high school along with everyone else
and then, of course, she had to have an identity crisis right then, on top of the stress of relocation
sally had to really rethink things after The Move, because although she tried so hard to maintain contact, she lost touch with her best friend, and it shattered her heart. and she knew she wasn’t Supposed to have this much of a broken heart over something like that, but that didn’t make the shards any smoother. actually, it only made it hurt worse, because she didn’t feel like she could tell anyone 
she had to wonder, was she actually gay? had she been in love with her the whole time without knowing? sally might not Get people a lot of the time, but she knew that girls were only supposed to feel like this about boys they wanted to kiss, not their best friends. was this what people meant about crushes and all?? but she didn’t want any of that gross romantic stuff, either. was she just lonely? or did classic hyperfocus sally just plain care too much? she didn’t know. she didn’t know.
this prompted a whole lot of questioning and self-exploration
she spent much of her time online, at first, when she got to colorado
like, more than usual
sally has always been a meme trash internet junkie
she stayed in her little bedroom with the blinds half-shuttered until she started finding words that made sense
she learned that asexuality was a Thing and identified strongly with it right off the bat and has never looked back
aromanticism also made a Lot of sense to her and she knows she’s somewhere (enthusiastic handwavey gestures) there on that spectrum, too
she also learned a lot about other LGBT stuff during this intensive research period because parts of that Also made sense
the jury’s still out on whether she was gay for her friend or not, and probably always will be, but that’s okay
because she started realizing that it was okay for the the most important relationships in her life to Not look like what people expected them to, and that she could do anything she wanted to and didn’t have to do anything she didn't
and at some point during the summer before she starts high school, esther roberts walked up to her with a slightly manic grin, looking like she was gonna befriend her or die trying
sallys instinct when esther marches up to her is to ignore and avoid, but esther is a sharp girl whose opening move is to compliment the star trek t-shirt that you can barely see under sally's oversized flannel
(sally loves overlarge floppy clothes)
because of that sally decides to give her a chance
even though she’d really just like to be left alone to try and sort herself out
anyway, sally ends up getting dragged to lunch with her and jack and anthony
and anthony’s like “for heaven’s sake esther will you stop strongarming random strangers into coming to lunch with you, i bet she doesn’t even know trigonometry”
and sally's like “fuck you i’m going straight into calculus in the fall”
and anthony perks up his ears and is like !!!!!!! friend!!!!!!!!!! MATH FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!
and esther’s like “she looked like a nerd, i thought she might like to hang out with you losers”
and jack’s like “hey!!” but anthony doesn’t even notice bc he’s already started talking to sally about math
and slowly, sally realizes how not-straight all her new friends are and she just. feels so comfortable, without so many expectations
sally and esther have a special Bond abt queer stuff. it’s harder for sally to talk about things like that with anthony even though he becomes her best friend in the whole world
(perhaps because he’s her best friend in the whole world, and she has trouble reconciling her current reality with the old sally grissom who had never lost one)
for a long, long time, esther is the Only person who knows about the girl from iowa
because esther’s a girl who likes girls and it’s a lot less scary to tell her that sally might-have-liked-a-girl-once but isn’t sure and may never be
and she cries because she wants definitive answers, she wants something that makes sense, but this time she may never get it. this, she, is an experiment that will probably never have enough data to draw any kind of conclusion.
but esther tells her it’s okay either way. it’s okay if she did and it’s okay if she didn’t.
and sally gradually realizes it’s okay to be uncertain. it’s okay to exist blurred across the lines of what people expect and outside the boxes of what makes sense. hell, maybe it’s okay for what’s outside the boxes to make more sense than what’s in them. isn’t heisenberg’s uncertainty principle necessary to understanding quantum mechanics?
and slowly,
slowly
that old wound finally starts healing, though it leaves a scar
and the question becomes less and less pressing, with time
later, in high school, sally and esther meet down by the garden shed at school whenever they need to Talk about things
nothing calms sally down like the feeling of sitting down cross-legged on a solid-but-squishy spare bag of Miracle Gro
once, someone started teasing about them going to the shed to mess around and sally kicked a watering can in frustration and accidentally sent it through a window and got detention for destroying school property
but esther ended up in detention with her because she chased down whoever was making fun of them
and kicked their ass
sally runs back into the shed because of the double embarrassment of the accusation and the watering can mishap
(esther later teases sally kindly with jokes about going back into the closet/shed)
one time the science beans are chilling in the lab one afternoon and jack and esther are playing dilemma at the bench next to anthony, who is finishing up his lab writeup
quentin is dozing on the couch with an open manila folder over his face
sally is somehow sitting cross-legged on a lab stool, eating her way through a tin of anchovies that she’s individually wrapping in steamed spinach and then devouring with gusto
and jack is sure he’s about to beat esther at cards but she suddenly pulls the rug out from under him with an unexpected play and beats him
“goddamit esther, how do you always do this, do you keep a fricken ace up your sleeve just to fuck with me”
and esther just makes three seconds’ worth of eye contact with sally in dead silence, not moving because if she moves she’ll start laughing
and sally, who has been agonizing over coming out to the rest of the gang as ace for awhile now but hasn’t been able to figure out how to do it, 
suddenly blurts “i don’t wanna be in anyone’s pants OR sleeves”
esther fucking loses it
quentin peers out from under his folder, bemused as to why the two girls are laughing their asses off
once she stops cackling, sally really awkwardly gives ace and aro 101 explanations with help from esther
quentin’s the only one who’s already familiar with asexuality and aromanticism already and he perks up because hey! i know this!
but they all take it really well
jack’s like “wow yeah, that really sounds like you”
anthony notices that sally’s fidgeting and stimming way more than usual and says “oh, sally, you were really nervous about this, weren’t you”
she just kinda nods, not looking at anyone and rocking a little on her stool
“come here, you”
he goes and wraps her in a great big soft bear hug and she nuzzles against him
“it’s okay, you’re okay, you’re good, we love you, i love you”
sally’s definitely sniffling a little
at one point during her junior year, sally finds herself dozing off in a pile on the couch between anthony and esther toward the end of a movie night. she briefly wakes up all the way and freaks out a little because this is, so intimate
and she’s used to people expecting that to mean something More that she doesn’t and something Less than she does
but then
she realizes
that it’s okay if she loves her friends more than anything else in the world, and it's okay if it's a little weird, and it's okay if other people don't get how that works and how powerful it is, because her people get it
she's not too much; she's not too little
she sighs snuggles down into the pile and passes the fuck out, because that realization drew a lot of poison out of her
and she sleeps
and for the first time in a long time, she feels safe not only with her friends, but with her self.
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Various screencaps of REGs telling people they can’t identify as queer and/or that queer is not an identity or isn’t real, all taken from this post. This is provided as part of evidence that, yes, acephobes/discoursers are absolutely saying we can’t be or use queer. Also, hey, check out how many of them are transmisogynistis, radfems, biphobes, transphobes, etc! and use a lot of anti-progressive/anti-sj language (like “identity politics”). It’s almost as if their rhetoric is related...
I have removed the REG usernames in the following captions to avoid their interacting with this post, and to slightly no-platform them. Anyway, they read:
bigballofwibblywobbly: Well you created an argument about something that wasn’t being talked about. I was talking about individuals who don’t identify as anything but queer.
Not saying we should apply it to the whole group. But you’re a terf so it all makes sense.
[REG/radfem 1]: queer isn’t an orientation??? its a reclaimed slur like god i love being a part of the lesbian gay bisexual transgender reclaimed slur for homosexual community. you’re an ace inclusionist ofc you want to reclaim slurs never used against you and think queer is a separate orientation. the lgbt community will never be the queer community or the ‘everyone that doesn’t completely conform to heterosexuality’ community lol
[REG 2]:  Yeah queer isn’t really a coherent identity in and of itself. I see “sapphic” being used in much the same way now. Like I understand that figuring out who you are is difficult and people may want to use words that are sort of? Vague and noncommittal? But queer quite honestly does not mean anything in the sense that as it’s own identity it says nothing really about who you are attracted to or your gender identity. It’s [post cut off at this point]
[REG 3]: That and its fucking vague as fuck? What does it even mean? So many non-LGBT people claimed that they’re LGBT bc they’re “queer”, when they’re just cishet polyamorous people or cishet kinksters or cishet aces or cishet aros or cis aroaces like…. that slur isn’t for u. And people who are LGBT but identify as q*eer are still LGBT? Why do u need a slur in the acronym if you’re either L G B or T? What’s the point? What does it add?
[REG 3]: Then you’d go under the bi umbrella Identity politics are so ridiculous jfc u don’t experience some new form of oppression and therefore need a community based around it just because you are mga but don’t like the label bisexual for urself.
[REG/radfem 4]:  “Queer” could mean that you are a guy who uses nail polish or that you have a turtle pet.What’s the point of this word?What does it represent?What’s your axis of oppression?What experiences do you share in common?What’s the fucking point of identifying as “queer” other than to pretend that you’re special and oppressed?
feminismandmedia: I love how you say that people who are attracted to multiple genders are pretending to be special and oppressed.
Fuck off you twit.
[REG/radfem 4]: Sexual attraction is about sex not gender.There are only 2 sexes so you’re either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual.It’s not that deep, trying to give a special name to your sexuality doesn’t make you opressed and it’s actually disrespectful to actually opressed people.
[REG/radfem 5]: You shouldn’t be identifying as q*eer freely without consequence because it’s a slur.
[REG/radfem 4]: Why are you oppressed?What’s the base of your oppression?How is society systematically aimed against you?If you’re actually oppressed why do you use such an ambigous and nebulous terminology with no concrete meaning to describe your community?Since it makes it harder to acknowledge you as an oppressed group? “Fam. I like all genders. I like dick and vagina too. I’m queer too” You’re bi, congrats, you may be affected by homophobia(oppression) if you date a same sex partner.“Oppression” is a strong and assertive word, you can’t just throw it around.
bigballofwibblywobbly: My god I hate TERFs. Fall off a bridge. Thanks.
Seriously? Do we now have a quota of oppression to fill? You want every dirty detail? You disgust me.
Also I’m not bisexual thanks.
[REG/radfem 4]: “Do we now have a quota of oppression to fill” Yes it is called being oppressed.I said that the person who said they liked dicks and vaginas is bisexual, not you. You hate us cause we’re right and you know it, I would hate us if I were you too. Just bc someone called you she instead of zir in the supermarked once doesn’t mean you’re oppressed Bethy, get your shit together.
bigballofwibblywobbly: I love how they erase my queerness to fit their argument.
[REG/radfem 4]: What am I erasing? Lmao, what’s “queerness”?You still haven’t answered what it means, bc it means nothing, it is a word made for straight kids feel special, a homobhobic slur actually.
bigballofwibblywobbly: My pal. I already said. I like all genders.
[REG/radfem 4]: …so you’re bisexual therefore only oppressed if you date a same sex partner like I said.
bigballofwibblywobbly: Wow. That’s some nice biphobia you have too. Bisexual people don’t become straight if they are in a relationship with the other gender.I’m not bisexual anyways.
(Also on that last one, calling being nonbinary a white thing? lol)
bigballofwibblywobbly: Well guess I don’t belong in the community. Congrats your gatekeeping has cut out people who like multiple genders. Top notch. Really.
[REG 6]: Aren’t there other words for liking multiple genders other than a slur?
[REG 7]: Um OP polysexual falls under the acronym without using a slur and is an umbrella term for multi-gender attraction….
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The following cap is a separate post made by a REG that is capped for no-platforming purposes and to prevent their interaction. It was shoved into the ace positivity tags because discoursers seriously just straight up hate ace people and don’t want them to exist. 
The post is about how “real” LGBT+ people hate the word queer and don’t identify with it except as a comeback, implying anyone who identifies with or uses it regularly is actually not LGBT+ and instead one of “the mogais”. It compares people reclaiming queer to white people using the n-slur and neurotypicals using the r-slur.
The post uses the phrase “cishets in denial” and I honestly think that truly encapsulates exactly how discoursers are seeing being LGBT+. 
It fits right along with that “if you are attracted to the opposite sex you’re not lgbt” post. 
It fits with the idea that more people are identifying as LGBT+ because it’s “trendy” and are actually fakes and liars, an idea spread and supported by cishets, truscum, anti-sj, radfems, etc. This comes as no surprise as MOGAI was coined by a nonbinary person, and that has been the driving force behind the hatred for it.
It also fits with how “sga” is pulled from conversion therapy because that’s literally how the people behind and supportive of the concept of conversion therapy look at being LGBT+: that it’s a phase, you’re just jumping on the bandwagon, you’re in denial, this isn’t the “real” you, etc. 
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[REG 8]: Lol, seriously? There is no better way to show that MOGAI is made up of mostly cishets in denial than how heatedly they fight to use the word “qu**r”. If they paid fucking attention, they’d know that actual members of LGBT don’t really want to be called that, that most LGBT folks only use it to fight the balance of power that qu**r causes and that they aren’t going to cast away the history of the slur just because it’s supposedly a trendy umbrella term.
It’s the same way white people whine about their “right” to use “n*gga” when black people say no, or NT people claim “freedom of speech” when calling anyone and everyone “r*tard*d” despite decent human beings explaining why that’s fucked up.It’s so damn annoying…
danni-rants: And this is in ace positivity why again
queerautism: You heard it here first folks. Everyone who fought to reclaim Queer as an act of rebellion and empowerment… was actually cishet all along. Same for neurodivergent people who can’t be more specific than ‘queer’ about their identity. And everyone who keeps trying to turn it into a positive term and build a community around it. Also my nonbinary pan ace ass apparently lol
Simply Amazing.
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