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[sydcarmyfan]

I have a feeling FX will announce this week that season 4 is coming next year or season 3 part 2 will be released soon.

[sydcarmyfan]

Chef, your attention to detail is unmatched. I’m hoping August 7 will be the date s3 part 2 is released.

Would a part two fix season three at all?

I’ve been thinking on this for a while. Especially since I had been seeing the hope on my feed that there’s a part two. I just can’t help but ask if it would fix anything? That means the pacing would shift but how could they make sense of it all?

I didn’t hate season three but I have been letting it digest and now I’m very confused at how they’d be able to pull it off. That would mean eight (maybe more depending on how this goes) more episodes for season three, making it a really long season.

I had hope for a season five. Though, if season three part two is officially happening, I don’t see them doing that at all. Season four could be its last but what’s the contents of season four that would make it satisfying for the audience to end it on? I can’t lie, I’m very confused on how this would go. Especially since it’s been said that the scripts weren’t finished?! How are they making scenes for an unfinished script?! Was that season three part two or season four?

The way the team has handled this has been a huge mess all around. The promotion definitely didn’t make sense this year (due to the fact that the actors probably don’t know what’s going to be rolled out). I just hope they do better in the future, even if season four is its last.

Maybe the magic trick was season three part two all along LMFAOOO.

picture sourced from vanity fair

[sydcarmyfan]

I hope they don’t scrap the other 8 episodes, I need them. We need them.

18 episodes were filmed this year

Y’all, Ebon revealed that 18 episodes were filmed this year and we only got 10 episodes, so will they release the other 8 episodes earlier as part 2 or wait until next year and add them to s4? I’m really hoping that they will release them sooner than later.

[sydcarmyfan]

18 episodes were filmed this year

Y’all, Ebon revealed that 18 episodes were filmed this year and we only got 10 episodes, so will they release the other 8 episodes earlier as part 2 or wait until next year and add them to s4? I’m really hoping that they will release them sooner than later.

[sydcarmyfan]

❤️ thank you for all the love since i started drawing these two emotionally stunted chefs. ❤️ i gotta go on an indefinite hiatus but all your kind comments and messages have meant so much to me and honestly, have encouraged me to be creative again after a long period where i simply wasn't. i really can't thank you all enough!

[sydcarmyfan]

After watching s2, I was sure that Sydney will have an episode in s3 where we learn more about her so I was super disappointed that 1. We didn’t get the focused episode. 2. We hardly saw Sydney.

Almost can't believe there was no Sydney focused episode in S3. No one even talks about Sundae, Sheridan or even Brigade.

Though tbf, Sheridan was the only one that was more about her rather than her doing stuff alone after being abandoned in some shape or form. 🤔 *shrugs*

What do y'all think?

[sydcarmyfan]

I wish Neil would just mind his business because he’s been trying to make fetch happen and it’s not happening.

I couldn’t watch that scene, I had to skip it but maybe I need to watch it so I can see Claire’ s reaction. From what I’ve seen so far, I think Claire is slowly and surely starting to loose interest as well but time will tell if she’s ready to move on.

Claire POV is needed. It’s necessary!

At this point, I need to see Claire POV when it comes to her and Carmy’s relationship because Carmy makes it seem that everything was perfect. It’s just doesn’t make sense to me how she went from being giddy and telling him that she loves him to her walking out as soon as he said their relationship was a waste of time. Something is not clicking. The math ain’t mathing. Also she’s a doctor so wouldn’t she want to make sure Carmy is okay instead of running out on him? I strongly believe Claire saw a few red flags but ignored them, but when she heard him say those things, it was the last straw. Claire, what are the red flags you ignored? We the people want to know. We need to know.

[sydcarmyfan]

SOUND ON!!!

Idk if I'm late on this but I only just noticed it. Pls listen to Carmy at the end, after he introduces Syd to Luca. I removed the bg noise and enhanced the audio

He introduces them saying "Luca, Syd"

Then he's quickly trying to get Syd to move onto saying hello to someone else. He points to this other person immediately and says "Will." But Syd's still saying a very warm hello to Luca so Carmy calls her name to get her attention!!! It hasn't even been 3 seconds 😂 This is the guy who trained Syd's good friend and colleague and worked with Carmy!! Why can't they say hello properly, Carmy?!!

He was trying to break that up real quick!! That greeting was too warm and went on too long for his liking! 3 seconds being too long for Carmy!!

I think @pudgetprincess was right in the replies of this post, Carmy was already aware that Luca could be a threat before Syd even got there. Carmy looked Luca's way just as he put his hand on Syd's back. He kept it there the whole time he introduced Syd to the table, telling her to "say hi", then looked Luca's way again before he removed his hand, making sure Luca had seen it. Then he introduces Syd to Luca and suddenly it's not "say hi" anymore it's ok Syd let's move it along there's other ppl here you know lmao. Carmy is actually hilarious! If we get jealous Carmy next season it's gonna be SO good.

[sydcarmyfan]

Just when I thought I was starting to be free of The Bear, the hold just started becoming stronger.

[sydcarmyfan]

Wait, that’s what she said about what happened when Carmy was stuck in the walk-in? Honestly I skipped all the Claire scenes and the majority of the Faks scenes so I may have missed a few things in s3.

Claire POV is needed. It’s necessary!

At this point, I need to see Claire POV when it comes to her and Carmy’s relationship because Carmy makes it seem that everything was perfect. It’s just doesn’t make sense to me how she went from being giddy and telling him that she loves him to her walking out as soon as he said their relationship was a waste of time. Something is not clicking. The math ain’t mathing. Also she’s a doctor so wouldn’t she want to make sure Carmy is okay instead of running out on him? I strongly believe Claire saw a few red flags but ignored them, but when she heard him say those things, it was the last straw. Claire, what are the red flags you ignored? We the people want to know. We need to know.

[sydcarmyfan]

Claire POV is needed. It’s necessary!

At this point, I need to see Claire POV when it comes to her and Carmy’s relationship because Carmy makes it seem that everything was perfect. It’s just doesn’t make sense to me how she went from being giddy and telling him that she loves him to her walking out as soon as he said their relationship was a waste of time. Something is not clicking. The math ain’t mathing. Also she’s a doctor so wouldn���t she want to make sure Carmy is okay instead of running out on him? I strongly believe Claire saw a few red flags but ignored them, but when she heard him say those things, it was the last straw. Claire, what are the red flags you ignored? We the people want to know. We need to know.

[sydcarmyfan]

As annoying and repetitive some of the scenes in s3 were when I first watched it, the wonderful meta on here is making me realize how everything adds up. I’m starting to think that I need to rewatch s3 so I can truly understand it. I’m still annoyed at the lack of Sydney scenes though but maybe that was part of the plan?!?

[sydcarmyfan]

Chef, this meta! Things are starting to add up for sure. Maybe I will give s3 a rewatch soon.

GUYS, I CAN'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE I'M SAYING THIS, BUT WHAT IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD A GOOD REASON FOR JOHN CENA BEING CAST AS SAMMY FAK?

please bear with me (pun intended) and let me know what you think of my speculation under the cut~

In a mid-boggling case of a seemingly big-lipped alligator moment in season 3 - John Cena appears in a bizarrely over the top (even by the tonal comedic standards set previously by The Bear e.g. Ecto Cooler punch at a kid's birthday party getting spiked with Xanax in Season One) and jarring scene that stretches on and on as he obnoxiously squabbles, blathers and exchanges nonsensical rapid-fire quips with his brothers Neil and Ted Fak as they buff polish The Bear's dining area before a food photographer from The Chicago Tribune arrives to take a photo for a review of The Bear.

In this scene, he also intimidates and threatens to 'haunt' (in a Fak family tradition ( that even the Faks find annoying) - that involves pranking and being an unrestrained nuisance to their loved ones especially when they least expect it) his brother Ted for, "stealing his SD cards"......

This scene and the increased screen presence of the seemingly plot-irrelevant Faks this season is currently being eviscerated by plenty of fans and critics alike.

..................................

But what if there's a (debatable, but) really good reason for this scene and the increased involvement in Seasons 2 and 3 of the massive numbered siblings family of Carmy's pseudo cousins, the Faks?

See Exhibit A:

In season 2, episode 3, Sundae - after Carmy has already asked Sydney out to Kasama, a husband and wife owned restaurant run by Tim Flores, and Genie Kwon*, ostensibly just to brainstorm and gain inspiration for planning for the new menu, and after Sydney has already gone home and freshened up and changed her clothes, then arrived to Kasama early, despite the meeting only being scheduled for an hour after she last spoke to Carmy at his apartment, Claire calls and interrupts the whole hypothetical shebang with Syd and Carmy at Kasama (the Tagalog WORD FOR TOGETHER) with the words,

"Did you mean to give me a fake number? You do know that I know your entire family [translation: she must know Donna too and Claire assumes that Carmy's folks approve of her - and she's proven to be technically right throughout Seasons 2 and 3 ], right? And I know ALL the Faks! [translation: tee hee! they're bigger than you - to quote Neil and Ted with their Uncle, "We Faks do have a particular shape, don't we?😇" - and they outnumber you, you scrawny punk, slay!😉✨]"

Claire then proceeds to playfully threaten to have said "massive numbered siblings" Faks, which includes Sammy Fak, played by John Cena (a professional wrestler, from an industry that is mixes both bawdy over the top theatre, a performance art that values Kayfabe (legerdemain/slight of hand anyone?) and comedy, and an athletic discipline) that is TALL. BUILT. HENCH. AND BUFF AF.....Claire 'playfully' threatens to have THESE FAKS, beat up Carmy, who is short in stature and cannot fight well from all the previous physical confrontations we've seen him be involved in, despite supposedly being a former high-school wrestler, and who has already been seriously physically abused thrice in the series run thus far (not counting him play fighting or trying to fight with Richie) after being JUMPED by a GROUP of assailants, not once, but TWICE in season one, by the Ballbreaker nerds in the pilot, and the Bachelor Party attendees in the season finale (the first season started and ended with Carmy being beaten tf up, Holy Shit! 🤯); AND AFTER BEING SLAPPED IN THE FACE IN SEASON 2 BY HIS OWN MOTHER, DONNA.

Notice the way Carmy goes from being lost in his thoughts but being completely relaxed after his menu planning session with Sydney, and in anticipation of seeing her on their would be inspiration seeking meet-up (definitely not a date, no Sir! 👀) at Kasama, to being tense and jittery and apprehensive when Claire calls him (after going behind his back and getting his number from Fak).

Notice the way Carmy's voice shakes when he asks Claire if she really knows all of the Faks.....

Notice Carmy's defeated and annoyed reaction after he hangs up the phone.

No wonder Carmy is being so avoidant and conflict averse in his handling of Claire in both Season Two and Three, he has absolutely no faith in himself or his loved ones at present to defend himself should he assert the type of boundaries he may have been desiring to have with them for these past two seasons, after all - who can he count on to fully have his back even to the point of physically intervening for him if he gets into a scrape or is genuinely attacked, by the Faks on account of Claire taking offense at or misrepresenting his words and actions to them, e.g. Claire apparently twisting Carmy's self loathing stream of consciousness confession (that she eavesdropped on) and telling Tiff that they broke up because Carmy said that "Claire will ruin everything good for him?" while he was trapped in the fridge?

What if Carmy knows he has to rip the band-aid and call Claire and apologize for his part in the superficiality and disintegration of their dalliance, but is afraid to do so because he knows in so doing, if he is being fully honest with himself and with Claire, he never truly wanted to be with her in the first place?

And who knows how Claire will take that revelation - it probably won't be pretty will it?

And.....

to quote Neil Fak,

"Claire's the best."

"We love Claire."

"I did that." [setting Carmy and Claire up in Pop)

And.....

Claire. knows. all. the. Faks.....

TL;DR

They cast John Cena as Sammy Fak, and the Faks had a lot of screen-time this season because they are the physical manifestation of being haunted in their family's sense of the word:

and a satirical visualization of Carmy's desire for Syd being cock-blocked ; plus Claire is a Love-able Alpha Bitch, and Carmy is ambivalent towards her, and even a little scared to face her, because her henchmen are the Faks!

If you enjoyed this post, then thank you for reading and I'd recommend that you check out the following meta on the way Christopher Storer and Company have seemingly (and controversially) committed to sticking to the bit of lying to the audience and breaking the fourth wall throughout this entire season:

Richie and the viewer - by @whenmemorydies with my add-on in the reblogs about Richie, not Carmy, potentially being Christopher Storer's author avatar in this series (from a post originally written before season 3 premiered.

Fourth Wall being broken - by @brokenwinebox and @thoughtfulchaos773

Claire being a possible representation of addiction, being a habit that is hard to kick - by @thoughtfulchaos773 and my and @devisrina 's add-on speculating that Claire may also be meant to be interpreted or revealed as a bit of a mean girl, to reference TVTropes, she may be a deconstruction/ mashup of the Girl Next Door, the Cute Bookworm, Nerds Are Sexy, MPDG, Yandere, Alpha Bitch, Loveable Apha Bitch, Childhood Friend Romance, High-School Sweethearts, Sickeningly Sweethearts, Even Nerds Have Standards, Beauty Equals Goodness, Face-Heel Turn tropes etc.....and a subtler mirror version of Donna Berzatto.

and another reblog add-on of mine to the thread linked above - on The Faks as the living embodiment of all that is fake in Carmy's life, C Storer's handy dandy tools for slight of hand,

you can't spell fake without FAK.

4. The parallels between The Bear and Burnt by @ambeauty - a post Season 2 post which was proven to be prescient and insightful given the Easter Egg inclusion of Bradley Cooper's character from Burnt on the photo wall of chefs at Ever in the Funeral dinner in the finale.

5. The parallels between The Bear and Boiling Point - a gritty film and mini-series set in a restaurant which features several plot elements and characters reminiscent of certain character archetypes and subplots present in The Bear - seriously think of this IP as The Bear's cynical, dramatic, older British cousin.

Decision to leave by @anderwater

This anon that recommended Boiling Point to me and wrote about its connections to The Bear.

The difference between The Bear and Boiling Point by @theblvckvenus

The similarities between The Bear and Boiling Point in this reblog add-on to @happylikeasong et. al's thread.

6. Claire/Carmy and the Walk In - my old post on the parallels between Strange Days (1995), Can't Hardly Wait (1998, and The Bear.

and @ambeauty 's meta on Claire as a representation of the fridge

7. My post on the possible connection between The Bear Season 3 and Andrei Tarkovsky's experimental, semi-autobiographical, psychological Oedipal drama film The Mirror (1975) - a film which was incredibly divisive upon its initial release, but has since gained wide acclaim and re-evaluation as a masterpiece, and that has had a legacy of subsequently inspiring multiple renowned filmmakers.

8. The Bear series' lead actress, and the director of Napkins, one of the only episodes of The Bear Season 3 to receive almost universal acclaim - Ayo Edebiri's trollish sense of humour and assertion that lying is the pinnacle of comedy.

9. And last but certainly not least with the inclusion of a Genie Kwon*, of Kasama fame, cameo in the season finale and the prominence of Kasama being key to Syd and Carmy's stymied relationship progression, courtesy Claire, see

The Kasama of it all by @gingerylangylang1979

@mod-doodles @lunasink @vacationship @chansoooo1-blog

@bioloyg @msmoiraine @nerdyblerd @ripley-stark @uncriticalbunny @prowitchazel @sluttycatfish @msmoiraine @mswyrr @anxietycroissant @turbulenthandholding @tvfantic87 @laryssamedeirss @tejidaepoque @angelica4equity @inalltheirgorgeouscolors @houseofevangelista @glitterslag

@uncriticalbunny @imliterallyjustablackgirl

@bioloyg and @ambeauty please don't say I told you so or welcome back, I'm flabbergasted that I wrote this, but I want to believe! 😭

P.S. If you're still reading this, do yourself a favour and read @brokenwinebox 's post

New Paradigm

and this follow up

Mocktail is a dirty word

and check out her #the magic trick tag!

and also check out these Sydcarmy and Rosalind x Orlando from Shakespeare's As You Like It:

First Meetings

Fumbling with your crush

Separation, keepsakes and lovesickness

and also C Storer really did tell us in the music that this season would inspire

Mixed Emotions 🥴

[sydcarmyfan]

Good spot, Chef! I didn’t even realize that he left her again after promising her that he would not do it again right at the start of the season.

I am hoping Carmy will start to do better for himself and others especially Sydney, because he’s left her alone on different occasions since s1.

They knew as viewers we were hoping Carmy was heading to Sydney's place.

[sydcarmyfan]

He better, because did he go for a walk and leave Sydney at Ever with the others when they were there together? Carmy has a lot of apologizing to do.

They knew as viewers we were hoping Carmy was heading to Sydney's place.

[sydcarmyfan]

Someone said that most of the things covered in the 10 episodes could have been covered in 2-3 episodes and I agree. There was quite a lot of repetition and dragging of things which made it hard to watch some of the scenes.

Blaming the bad reviews on the SydCarmy fandom is crazy. And why is that one article saying that we have “a sickness that no kind of medicine can cure” like all this venom for what? Let people ship in peace.

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Even with Ebra, we hardly saw him in s3 and I think he has an interesting background so I would like to know more. All the time spent on the Faks and others could have been used for the original characters. It’s such a shame.

Blaming the bad reviews on the SydCarmy fandom is crazy. And why is that one article saying that we have “a sickness that no kind of medicine can cure” like all this venom for what? Let people ship in peace.