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segaretro · 27 days ago
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okay so here's the interaction timeline of the 2021 merch 'drama' between nicolas cantu and dream, as per requested:
dream made this tweet responding to general criticism after a new merch drop in march of 2021
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nicolas cantu replied to the tweet with this
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then they went back and forth a couple times, still just mostly harmless banter.
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once dream got involved in the replies, his fanbase started relentlessly attacking nick about his recently deceased dog that he'd had for most of his life, and had just made an instagram post grieving over (this post is still up).
i don't have great ss' of the responses he garnered on the original merch tweet, but i've got a couple examples, more on the tamer end of what was said (these responses were in the several thousands).
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this was happening whilst dream was still responding to nick, and he most definitely noticed the backlash nick received for his mostly harmless comment. however he didn't comment until after nick deactivated his twitter, and only made this comment on his private account, with very little reach.
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it's notable that nick's initial comment, although insulting, wasn't an out of nowhere attack. he'd been on smp live and smp earth, and was an active member in the mcyt community, even playing a few minecraft mondays. he very often responded to tweets by creators in that space, in the same 'joking' manner.
dream didn't mention any contact with nick after this exchange, and it's unclear whether he followed up the situation with an apology or further messages in private.
nick would go on to occasionally make vague references to dream and his fans when he returned to twitter in 2022, but largely didn't mention him again until their more popular drama in 2023.
anyways that's all i have pretty much, if you have any questions about the situation or the responses, i'm happy to answer them, i was very active in both nick and dream's communities at the time.
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dream getting needlessly butthurt over ppl making low-stakes comments about his merch and fanbase isn't a new thing at ALL.
he loooooves to milk the nicolas cantu situation for sympathy points, but fails to ever mention that their whole 'beef' only started because nick called his merch bad on twitter.
(to which dream actively let his fanbase bully nick off the internet for upwards of a year, by harassing him about his recently deceased dog.)
notable that nick was only 17 at the time too.
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segaretro · 27 days ago
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molly on the subject of dream removing whore and r***** from his vocabulary
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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remember when dream was woke and against saying slurs . was that what the mask was
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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CLOCK IT
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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do you guys think lil nas x is still in the dsmp discord
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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"Real people can queerbait you" factoid actualy statistical error. Average real person can't queerbait you. Ikiss georg, who harasses a british standup comedian and misleads his fanbase about his queerness intentionally for profit and attention for five years, is an outlier adn should not have been counted.
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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i love it so much that whenever dream tries to drag quackity into his shit quackity uses the opportunity to plug whatever he is gonna do next instead of even acknowledging him. literally funniest guy on the planet, please never stop
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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i think at the end of the day that there’s really no reasoning with dream. he doesn’t believe that he’s in the wrong, he doesn’t think that a 16 year old can reasonably change their opinions once they turn 20, he doesn’t think it’s wrong to message the mother of someone your crossed with, he doesn’t think what he did to Caiti is wrong, he doesn’t think he’s misogynistic, he doesn’t think he’s egotistical, and he will never think anything different. i think that’s why he has such a hard time believing tommy has changed and thinks he’s just lying for clicks, it’s because he has not changed a bit and cannot comprehend that others do not have that issue
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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I love how being obsessed with livestreamed Minecraft role play for a period of my life has granted me access to seemingly endless interpersonal dramas I can tap into at 7 in the morning. Ex-girlfriend at the function pov
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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None of this would've happened if we let Coconut 2020 commit voter fraud
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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Love you sneeg
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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if i had a nickel for everytime quackity got a real time translation project of his a ton of attention because dream made an ass of himself on twitter id have 2 nickels which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice
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SNEEG 💀
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dreamcore
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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tommy: i’m not friends with a lot of people i was friends with when i was 16 because they’re bad people
dream: you have no backbone ur such a fucking poor loser i made you and now you just make fun of me and ur fans are all r slurs
jack manifold: shut up i’m talking patreon only 7 dollars!
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segaretro · 28 days ago
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the issue that provoked this stream needing to be made was that dream used a slur and needed to address it, instead he went live for 3 hours adressing the following topics.
-quackity
-how tommy is on his knees for quackity
- how tommy is a fake friend and hates quackity
-trump and how he’s a trumpie
-tommy was close with bad people like logan paul and w*lbur when he was 16 so he must be bad cause people cant change
-he’s not weird for messaging tommy’s mom and that’s totally normal
-quackity
-he’s not gay
-aimsey is an evil mastermind and is trying to get dream and george cancelled
-he’s an evil racist pedophile who made everyone sign ndas (that’s what everyone wants him to be apparently)
-quackity
-jack is cheating on ellie (rumor has it)
-there’s rumors about tubbo but he can’t say them
-adhd and autism and how he’s not to blame because of that
-harry is an idiot and only hates him because he quote tweeted him four years ago
-quackity
-people were sharing porn with minors in his discord but it’s okay because they asked everyone to not treat them differently
-actually everything is the fans fault and they’re the ones who ruined everyone’s friendship and he would be best friends with quackity if it wasn’t for the fans
-tommy is manipulating everyone and is actually evil but no he’s not he’s not a bad guy he’s just the worst
things he didn’t address:
-the r slur
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