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Seam | he/him"Don't dismiss me just because—unlike all your pals—my personality isn't the product of a crippling psychological disorder."(I have a crippling psychological disorder.)Header: DIE RPG | PFP: Arknights | Quote: Transformers IDW
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seamstraw · 2 months ago
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just finished issue 9 of the power fantasy (which if you haven’t read it, is a fascinating comic deconstructing/reimagining/inspired by x-men and written by an author who wrote some of marvel’s best storylines)—kieron gillen pulls off yet another “and this will completely change how you see this character.” he can’t keep getting away with this.
the dev reveal is so fucking interesting and totally recontextualizes past vs present magus. especially the bit where he kicks etienne in the nuts for saying eliza’s damnation is an acceptable price, since, yknow, that’s dev’s wife. but I also really hope the original jacky magus is out there somewhere.
well. I say “out there.” logically, that’d be hell.
valentina, etienne, heavy, and jacky were all close at some point. valentina still keeps a picture of the four of them displayed prominently. the four of them used to hang out at valentina’s house—I didn’t get the impression that they were gathered specifically for a meeting with major, though I could be misremembering that.
but they also kept secrets from each other. heavy didn’t tell them about the prophecy. jacky hid the major’s weakness. etienne was… etienne. they were all distrustful fucks.
(except valentina, of course, whose deepest personal desire seems to be to have a friend.)
what does it mean for none of your friends to realize you were replaced? for your politics and ideals and morals to notably change and no one thinks twice? how do you handle that? how do they handle that?
from a narrative standpoint, I do suspect that magus 1.0 is alive, just because a) we still need an answer as to how jacky even got his powers in the first place (though maybe flashback will answer this, or maybe jacky told dev pre-death) and b) gillen has done The Friend You Left Behind Is Back (sol in DIE). also, for a comic that keeps emphasizing messy relationships, there’s a lot of mileage in jacky coming back.
either that, or I’m just coping hard. might be a little of both.
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seamstraw · 2 months ago
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would it be fucked up or what if bob accidentally hurt one of the thunderbolts with his powers.
and then he does it again.
and again.
and again.
and he always makes everything worse and all he does is hurt the people around him and he needs to leave. because he loves them. and he can’t stop hurting them. but the thunderbolts would never let him just vanish. they’d look for him. they’d chase after him. they’d beg and plead for him to come back, and because bob is weak and selfish, he’d eventually give in.
but he would just hurt them again.
so he removes himself from the thunderbolts’ memories. from everyone’s memories. and leaves. and bob remembers, and he’s so, so lonely—
but at least this way, his friends are safe. because they’re better off without him.
I mean, would that be fucked up or what?
(something’s not right.
yelena has a hamster and she doesn’t remember why. john keeps setting the wrong number of plates at meals. ava can’t shake the feeling she left someone behind. alexei’s not sure when or why his limo was illegally modified to fit a sixth person. bucky keeps thinking about steve—about looking steve in the eye and not recognizing him.
but they’re the new avengers. life keeps going. villains keep attacking. except the new avengers are public, and they’re famous, and they’re a target, and all of them just punch and kick and shoot.
they’re losing. badly.
and then a man appears, and yelena blinks, and the villain is dead. she looks at him. he looks at her. she knows him. she does. and there’s a name on the tip of her tongue and she says—
the next day, the press interviews the new avengers. how did you kill that villain? the press asks. you keep surviving and winning fights everyone thinks you’ll lose. it’s practically miraculous! like someone out there is watching out for you.
alexei laughs and deflects with a joke. bucky gives a canned media response prepared by val. ava and john start fighting about who contributed more to the battle. yelena rolls her eyes but smiles at her team.
except—she can’t quite remember how they did defeat that villain.
something’s not right.)
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seamstraw · 2 months ago
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can’t help but imagine the whole of new york living in fear because bob’s words during the post-credit scene—that he can’t have the sentry without the void—definitely sound like he’s speaking from experience. i.e. at some point post-thunderbolts he tried to use his powers and went void in the end.
now, I’m sure the new avengers solved it quickly! but I’m sure it was also pretty obvious that the void was back. and the post-incident interview probably went something like this:
reporter: wow, we’re all so grateful to the new avengers for saving us from this villain a second time! how did you do it?
new avengers: power of friendship
reporter: I’m sorry?
new avengers: power of friendship
reporter: …hahaha, I’m sure we all understand the necessity of needing to keep trade secrets! but now that you’ve beaten the void again, they won’t be coming back again, right?
new avengers: …
new avengers: no promises
reporter: is the villain dead?
new avengers: no
reporter: but they’re locked up, right?
new avengers: no
reporter: they’re just running around and could attack new york at any time???
new avengers: yeah pretty much
reporter, in tears: I hate this fucking city
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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sometimes I stop and wonder if this person ever went back to ao3 for non-research purposes
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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my man amadeus… seventh smartest person in the world (which tangentially is a really stupid ranking to even exist but comic logic)… yet so dumb… but so faithful…
ngl I think the reason I found his plotline so compelling is because out of all of hulk’s allies and enemies, amadeus is the only one who actually believes the hulk isn’t a killer.
the illuminati shot hulk off into space because they didn’t trust him not to rampage and hurt people. the warbound follow hulk for, well, war, and they’re all working under the assumption hulk wants to kill his enemies. rick jones believes in bruce, not the hulk. the random hulk supporters want to see him tear down the system and kill the old heroes. even the rest of the renegades are shocked that hulk hasn’t already guillotined the illuminati and hung up their corpses on pikes.
hulk’s enemies think he’s a violent beast out to murder everyone. hulk’s allies also think hulk is out to kill people, the difference being that from their perspective, it’s justice, not murder.
except amadeus. who always defends hulk. who gets in front of hulk over and over again because he knows the hulk won’t hurt him. who is the only one to even propose a peaceful solution and try to give hulk a place he could be left alone.
amadeus, they could never make you hate the hulk, and they could never make me hate you.
everyone should have a friend who believes in them the way amadeus cho believes in the hulk
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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everyone should have a friend who believes in them the way amadeus cho believes in the hulk
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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holy fuck man, how the hell did I ever imply this was going to lead to a friendship between sam and walker? the reason I thought it would be funny is because sam and john hate each other. how does that one meme go? “horrifying: worst person you know has made a good point?” it’s dramatic irony. they’re not friends. they’re the worst of enemies. that’s. that’s the whole point.
did the “any of them (walker) say something disparaging” not tip you off to the fact that I know john and sam hate each other’s guts? it’s. it’s a joke. it’s a meme. it’s the equivalent of those fics where a supervillain assumes two superheroes are dating, calls them out on it in the middle of battle, and then the two realize their mutual pining as a result.
feel free to block me: that’s basically the purpose of having the block function at all. if you hate my posts that much, I don’t really get why you continue to look at them at all.
I think it would be really funny if sam and bucky have both been pining after the other for a while now but neither of them has said anything (sam: he loved steve… it would be so awkward to confess like I’m trying to replace steve not just as captain america but his boyfriend as well…) (bucky: he knows I was dating steve… I don’t want him to think I’m trying to replace steve with him…).
but then post-thunderbolts, winterfalcon divorce era hits, and bucky doesn’t say anything but all the thunderbolts immediately draw the conclusion that sam and bucky were dating and broke up. why else does bucky only have photos of them together or with sam’s family on his phone? and leap to sam’s defense if any of them (walker) say something disparaging? and play sad breakup songs alone in his room after arguing on the phone with sam?
(simultaneously: the avengers with an s are watching sam stare wistfully at photos of himself with bucky, constantly defend bucky to the press, and eat ice cream and watch hallmark romance movies at midnight after he gets off the phone with bucky. definitely exes, conclude the avengers with an s.)
this goes on for a few months until someone on twitter accuses john of being homophobic. john uses the tried and true defense of “one of my best friends is gay, of course I’m not homophobic.” this, unfortunately, only fuels pre-existing rumors that lemar and john were dating before lemar’s death, which is why john was so angry when lemar died and why olivia divorced him (she found out about the affair).
john, who does not appreciate people claiming that he was cheating on olivia, gets on twitter and types up an angry rant about how he would NEVER cheat on olivia and guys just can’t be FRIENDS now without people assuming they’re gay but he’s not HOMOPHOBIC because he’s such a great support to his good buddy bucky who is SAD and DEPRESSED after his evil boyfriend captain america cruelly ABANDONED him (evil and cruel for the abandonment, not the boyfriend part, because john isn’t homophobic) and john has NOTHING against THE GAYS he just wishes bucky would stop moping around the watchtower.
instantly a pr shitstorm. john takes it down after bucky yells at him but the damage is done. sam has seen it. sam calls bucky up because “why is walker spreading rumors we were dating??” (sam is also extra worried that maybe walker Saw Something during falcon and the winter soldier, and maybe walker knows sam is in love, which would be Very Bad)
bucky is so apologetic. he has no idea where john got the idea that they were dating from.
“…you didn’t refute the sad, depressed, moping part.”
sam and bucky realize they’re both in love with each other. they get together. divorce era over. bucky and sam vanish to louisiana for a week, until sarah kicks them out of her house because she thought the worst thing that could happen was seeing them both pine miserably, and then listening to sam’s moping in the divorce era was bad enough, but seeing them behave like lovestruck teenagers on their first date is somehow worse.
all the thunderbolts are patting john on the back for getting sam and bucky back together. john, who did not have any master plan, is confused.
(meanwhile:
“walker? walker?? you were pining so bad that john fucking walker noticed, but you couldn’t just say something to me?”
“you didn’t notice either.”
“yeah, well, I could say the same thing about you, buck! I wasn’t exactly subtle.”
“…sam, I said ‘I love you’ the last time we saw each other.”
“…”
“…”
“I still can’t believe we got together because of walker.”
“oh, yeah, he’ll never let this go.”)
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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God please stop
this is kinda lacking in context… I’m gonna go out on a limb here and assume this is about sam? because that’s the only thing I’ve gotten multiple hate comments and/or asks for recently. if it’s not, well, you gotta work on making your asks a little clearer.
as I told the other three people, please! I invite you to find things I’ve said that, in context, are me being negative about sam. because off the top of my head, some things I’ve said are… I like sam, I think sam has good reasons for disliking the new avengers, and it would be cute if sam and bucky were mutually pining for each other but didn’t realize it.
how does that one meme go? twitter is the only place where you can say, “I like waffles,” and someone will respond, “so you hate pancakes?” well, apparently, tumblr is the only place where you can say, “sam is totally justified in suing the new avengers,” and someone will respond, “so you hate sam?”
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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I think it would be really funny if sam and bucky have both been pining after the other for a while now but neither of them has said anything (sam: he loved steve… it would be so awkward to confess like I’m trying to replace steve not just as captain america but his boyfriend as well…) (bucky: he knows I was dating steve… I don’t want him to think I’m trying to replace steve with him…).
but then post-thunderbolts, winterfalcon divorce era hits, and bucky doesn’t say anything but all the thunderbolts immediately draw the conclusion that sam and bucky were dating and broke up. why else does bucky only have photos of them together or with sam’s family on his phone? and leap to sam’s defense if any of them (walker) say something disparaging? and play sad breakup songs alone in his room after arguing on the phone with sam?
(simultaneously: the avengers with an s are watching sam stare wistfully at photos of himself with bucky, constantly defend bucky to the press, and eat ice cream and watch hallmark romance movies at midnight after he gets off the phone with bucky. definitely exes, conclude the avengers with an s.)
this goes on for a few months until someone on twitter accuses john of being homophobic. john uses the tried and true defense of “one of my best friends is gay, of course I’m not homophobic.” this, unfortunately, only fuels pre-existing rumors that lemar and john were dating before lemar’s death, which is why john was so angry when lemar died and why olivia divorced him (she found out about the affair).
john, who does not appreciate people claiming that he was cheating on olivia, gets on twitter and types up an angry rant about how he would NEVER cheat on olivia and guys just can’t be FRIENDS now without people assuming they’re gay but he’s not HOMOPHOBIC because he’s such a great support to his good buddy bucky who is SAD and DEPRESSED after his evil boyfriend captain america cruelly ABANDONED him (evil and cruel for the abandonment, not the boyfriend part, because john isn’t homophobic) and john has NOTHING against THE GAYS he just wishes bucky would stop moping around the watchtower.
instantly a pr shitstorm. john takes it down after bucky yells at him but the damage is done. sam has seen it. sam calls bucky up because “why is walker spreading rumors we were dating??” (sam is also extra worried that maybe walker Saw Something during falcon and the winter soldier, and maybe walker knows sam is in love, which would be Very Bad)
bucky is so apologetic. he has no idea where john got the idea that they were dating from.
“…you didn’t refute the sad, depressed, moping part.”
sam and bucky realize they’re both in love with each other. they get together. divorce era over. bucky and sam vanish to louisiana for a week, until sarah kicks them out of her house because she thought the worst thing that could happen was seeing them both pine miserably, and then listening to sam’s moping in the divorce era was bad enough, but seeing them behave like lovestruck teenagers on their first date is somehow worse.
all the thunderbolts are patting john on the back for getting sam and bucky back together. john, who did not have any master plan, is confused.
(meanwhile:
“walker? walker?? you were pining so bad that john fucking walker noticed, but you couldn’t just say something to me?”
“you didn’t notice either.”
“yeah, well, I could say the same thing about you, buck! I wasn’t exactly subtle.”
“…sam, I said ‘I love you’ the last time we saw each other.”
“…”
“…”
“I still can’t believe we got together because of walker.”
“oh, yeah, he’ll never let this go.”)
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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went and read some sentry comics. it starts out normal enough. no one knows who sentry is. sentry is convinced the world has forgotten him. reed richards has betrayed him. sentry’s arch-nemesis the void is coming back.
actually, reed was on his side all along. the void is sentry. sentry is the void. they’re the same person. sentry mindwiped himself to prevent the void from existing because with no sentry there is no void.
actually actually, the void is a made-up entity implanted by the mastermind into sentry’s brain to make him think he can’t use his powers. so the void only exists because someone brainwashed sentry to think the void exists, and then sentry’s powers made the void exist.
actually actually actually, the void is a separate, evil guy who gained immense powers as the universe’s way of balancing out sentry’s existence. but then he stole sentry’s powers and replaced sentry and discovered he actually liked being a hero.
actually actually actually actually, that’s just a bedtime story being told by reed richards to his son.
actually actually actually actually actually, the void is the true robert reynolds and the sentry is the alter ego. and now they’ve separated into two bodies. and now they’re fighting. and now the sentry is about to throw the void into the sun to kill him. and now they’re kissing.
wait, what?
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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sam worked with and was best friends with nat, clint and bucky, all of whom were assassins. he stood by wanda even after she killed people in lagos. he was the first person to oppose the accords, steve followed HIS lead. he was and always has been vehemently anti-tony, anti-govt, anti-authority. he was on the run because of it. he fought for karli ffs. idk where y'all get this gross mischaracterised version of him. is it because of your pathological need to woobify your white favs? ofc the convo with bucky "didn't go well" cos bucky knew that sam was planning on restarting the avengers and went ahead and joined a team that included a whole ass child trafficker and the racist mf who tried to violently murder sam with his best friend's shield so..you didn't make any valid points other than villify an already disproportionately hated character.
uh… I’ll just quote myself here…
sam has completely legitimate reasons for being upset about the new avengers thing. for one, I doubt mr. “helped take down hydra in the government, civil war team cap” feels great about the avengers being associated with the us government.
he was on cap’s side in civil war, which included wanda
okay, lemme make my stance clear, which is that in this hypothetical scenario, I don’t think sam is wrong.
how. how does this vilify sam. this is a genuine question. please point me to what I’ve said that makes you think this. I genuinely don’t know what you want me to say here. how can I make it any more obvious that:
a) I like sam
b) I think sam has totally justified reasons for being upset about the new avengers name/team formation
and c) in the hypothetical scenario I presented, I still think sam would have entirely reasonable and justified reasons for feeling dubious about leaving bob with the new avengers.
I seriously don’t understand why you think I’m trying to vilify sam. sam’s great. I think he’s the correct choice for the next captain america. he’s funny, he’s empathetic, he’s kind. he has a strong sense of justice. he’s practical and he’s smart.
I just also think that maybe sam wouldn’t be super happy with leaving the equivalent of a walking nuclear bomb in the hands of the us government (given that he is, in your words, anti-govt and anti-authority) and a team containing, in your words, a team including “a whole ass child trafficker” and “the racist mf who tried to murder sam with his best friend’s shield.”
no. seriously. we both seem to agree that sam has legitimate reasons to dislike the new avengers. so how is it that when I try to say, “sam would also have legitimate reasons to dislike bob being part of the new avengers and I think that could be an interesting point of contention,” it turns into you assuming I’m trying to vilify him? because I’m not.
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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(this ended up being way longer than I thought it would, so tldr: I’m not saying that sam is evil or that he’s victimizing bob, I’m saying that it would make a lot of sense for sam to be uncomfortable leaving bob with the new avengers and he would be totally justified in feeling that way.)
okay, lemme make my stance clear, which is that in this hypothetical scenario, I don’t think sam is wrong.
the thing that’s so compelling about civil war is that both steve and tony make reasonable points. on a political level, the avengers do in fact need some sort of supervision, but also ross is awful and team cap just got done rooting out hydra from the american government. on a personal level, it’s shitty of steve to hide the “bucky killed your parents” thing from tony, but tony’s reaction does also sorta prove why steve did it. neither steve nor tony is fully right or fully wrong in civil war.
I’m not proposing a scenario where bob is a sad victim and bucky is his noble defender and sam is the evil, unsympathetic villain out to get them. I’m saying that it would be in-character for sam to have doubts about the whole setup—and he would be well within his rights to.
sam has a strong sense of justice. he doesn’t blame bucky for things he did under brainwashing. he understands the flag smashers even if he doesn’t agree with their methods.
but he’s also pragmatic. in the winter soldier, he knows bucky is brainwashed, but he still tells steve that maybe they need to stop bucky and not save bucky.
why? because bucky is dangerous. he’s a brainwashed assassin with an insanely high kill count. he almost kills sam and he almost kills steve. and at this point in time, they have no idea whether or not the brainwashing can even be reversed. and sam is right! the movie literally shows steve almost dying because he’s unwilling to hurt bucky. yeah, bucky ends up saving steve in the end, but steve wouldn’t even be in a position of needing to be saved if he had been willing to take killshots against bucky.
(which is not to say I think steve should have killed bucky—but sam’s take on the situation is very reasonable, and objectively makes more sense for anyone who’s not emotionally invested in bucky the way steve is.)
back to hypothetical post-thunderbolts scenario. bob is like. objectively dangerous. he’s the equivalent of a walking nuclear bomb. it’s not his fault, but… he can’t control his powers. manic episode? oops, sentry comes out. depressive episode? oops, the void comes out. literally the only thing stopping him from killing everyone in manhattan was the power of friendship.
and yeah, I’m sure bucky would tell sam that the power of friendship can stop the void! but sam did not watch thunderbolts. sam does not have the same trust in yelena or john or ava or alexei that the viewers have. what sam actually knows is that valentina allegra de fontaine (a woman with incredibly shady morals who triggered the void once already) is in charge of a team that contains:
an ex-black widow who got de-brainwashed and then still kept taking on contract kills and worked for valentina voluntarily
john walker. which. falcon and the winter soldier. and then post-fatws he became a mercenary. and john also worked for valentina voluntarily.
an ex-shield operative who tried to kill ant-man and then went around doing contract kills and working for valentina voluntarily.
an alcoholic, ex-soviet superhero who spent twenty years in prison and did not work for valentina voluntarily but only because she wouldn’t hire him.
like. you have a guy who could destroy the world if he has a bad mental health day. this is not the team lineup any reasonable outsider would trust to keep him mentally stable. and they’re working for valentina, who, again, caused this whole mess in the first place and tried to use bob’s powers for her own gain.
we as the viewers can say “oh but the new avengers are a great team and bob’s friends” because we have the advantage of having seen the movie. which is literally designed to make you think of them as a team and see how well they work together. sam does not have that benefit. sam is looking at a team of the most mentally unstable, unethical, antiheroic misfits earth has ever assembled. and bob.
I’m not saying that in this hypothetical, sam wants to lock up bob and throw away the key, or kill bob, or even hurt bob in any way, really. I am saying that it makes a lot of sense for sam to want to remove bob from the thunderbolts and valentina’s influence. and honestly? he’s totally justified. this whole setup looks like a powder keg about to explode from the outside, except instead of a powder keg it’s a nuclear bomb.
I want to preface this by saying that I think sam has completely legitimate reasons for being upset about the new avengers thing. for one, I doubt mr. “helped take down hydra in the government, civil war team cap” feels great about the avengers being associated with the us government. for another, sam has personal beef with john and valentina, one of whom is on the team and one of whom is their supposed boss.
that said, I think it would be interesting if in addition to the team name/the team in general, he and bucky were fighting about bob. how much does sam know about the void? probably everything tbh. I’m sure he would ask bucky about what happened with the void, and I don’t see bucky hiding anything. sam is his best friend, and he met bob like. five minutes ago.
so. bucky shares everything, and now sam knows that bob is the void. who killed people. who can’t control his powers.
would sam necessarily be upset that bob is roaming free? maybe not. he was on cap’s side in civil war, which included wanda, who was in a pretty similar situation to bob at the time. did some bad things in the past, imperfect control of powers.
but… maybe.
sam advocated for steve to kill bucky instead of trying to save him during the winter soldier. he expressed general uncertainty about bucky being free of brainwashing in civil war. sam is a great guy, but he also has a strong practical streak that steve didn’t have (or was too blinded by friendship with bucky to acknowledge). sam is friends with bucky now, but he’s not friends with bob.
and honestly?? if I were sam, I wouldn’t feel great about leaving bob with the new avengers either. they’re working for valentina, aka the woman who caused this entire mess to begin with and already tried to use bob’s power once. and the rest of the new avengers aren’t exactly paragons of mental health or morality.
so. if sam doesn’t think the current bob situation is safe. and bucky isn’t willing to hand bob over. then… where does that leave them?
(I don’t think bucky would tell bob about this. I’m not sure he’d even tell the rest of the team about this. for one, not great for bob’s mental health. for another, it would take animosity between the capvengers and new avengerz from “who gets the copyright” to “very personal stakes because wtf do you mean he wants to take bob away.”)
this is a lot of words to say maybe we’ll get civil war 2.0 but this time sam is tony and bucky is steve and bob is bucky. anyway. I just think it would be an interesting point of contention between the two of them. even if it didn’t get to civil war levels.
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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(edit to add: I think people are misunderstanding the point I’m trying to make, which is not that sam is evil or a villain or victimizing the new avengers or whatever. I’m saying it would be totally reasonable and justified for sam to have doubts about the current situation. please refer to this clarification if your takeaway from this post was that I dislike sam.)
I want to preface this by saying that I think sam has completely legitimate reasons for being upset about the new avengers thing. for one, I doubt mr. “helped take down hydra in the government, civil war team cap” feels great about the avengers being associated with the us government. for another, sam has personal beef with john and valentina, one of whom is on the team and one of whom is their supposed boss.
that said, I think it would be interesting if in addition to the team name/the team in general, he and bucky were fighting about bob. how much does sam know about the void? probably everything tbh. I’m sure he would ask bucky about what happened with the void, and I don’t see bucky hiding anything. sam is his best friend, and he met bob like. five minutes ago.
so. bucky shares everything, and now sam knows that bob is the void. who killed people. who can’t control his powers.
would sam necessarily be upset that bob is roaming free? maybe not. he was on cap’s side in civil war, which included wanda, who was in a pretty similar situation to bob at the time. did some bad things in the past, imperfect control of powers.
but… maybe.
sam advocated for steve to kill bucky instead of trying to save him during the winter soldier. he expressed general uncertainty about bucky being free of brainwashing in civil war. sam is a great guy, but he also has a strong practical streak that steve didn’t have (or was too blinded by friendship with bucky to acknowledge). sam is friends with bucky now, but he’s not friends with bob.
and honestly?? if I were sam, I wouldn’t feel great about leaving bob with the new avengers either. they’re working for valentina, aka the woman who caused this entire mess to begin with and already tried to use bob’s power once. and the rest of the new avengers aren’t exactly paragons of mental health or morality.
so. if sam doesn’t think the current bob situation is safe. and bucky isn’t willing to hand bob over. then… where does that leave them?
(I don’t think bucky would tell bob about this. I’m not sure he’d even tell the rest of the team about this. for one, not great for bob’s mental health. for another, it would take animosity between the capvengers and new avengerz from “who gets the copyright” to “very personal stakes because wtf do you mean he wants to take bob away.”)
this is a lot of words to say maybe we’ll get civil war 2.0 but this time sam is tony and bucky is steve and bob is bucky. anyway. I just think it would be an interesting point of contention between the two of them. even if it didn’t get to civil war levels.
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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the movie sort of brushes past it by having the thunderbolts save the civilians near them and then all the voided people getting un-voided, but… even if we discount the trauma, people definitely died because of bob.
the type of chaos the thunderbolts saw? that was probably happening all over the city. maybe not falling rubble with the helicopter crash, but out of control cars? if a plane was caught in the radius? there are ways for people to still die.
I don’t think the death toll was necessarily super high, but I do think it existed. e.g. the couple bucky saved who totally would’ve been run over by that truck he flipped. now take that with no bucky, and multiply the odds of a runaway car by a city of 1.6 million people.
tbh the thunderbolts probably don’t care. maybe bucky and walker? but they’re all killers. yelena offed like a dozen people in the first five minutes of the movie. they literally do not give a fuck.
but bob? I think bob does care. in the vault, he says he thinks he did something really, really bad. that super bad thing was voiding/killing two people. imo way more than two people died this time. bob’s gotta be feeling guilty as hell.
I’m fascinated by the idea of how he might react to this. bob is just a relatively regular guy who ended up with superpowers. bob is not an assassin. bob is not a soldier. bob is not a spy.
and now bob is a murderer.
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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me and my boyz with a z, but my boyz are depression and mania
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seamstraw · 3 months ago
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perpetually hilarious to me that yelena put on eyeliner and slicked her hair back before heading off to assassinate ava
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