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i haven't forgotten my login yippee

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versailles + the nymph

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modern marg blasting chapell roan while doing her make up to go out

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i was writing a reply and thinking about how she was taught to see love as a form of power. making someone love you as a form of control. desiring to be loved not to be loved but because of the power it gives you over someone. unwell thinking about this and about any scenario where she gets to look at it differently.

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the let me share your burden conversation she has with cersei but in dance era she'd very helpfully take over every queenly duty so alicent doesn't have to bother with that anymore 😇

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💬 + rumour has it that you're already a better queen than cersei ever was.

@ach1llean // send 💬 + a rumor and my muse will react to it.

❝ That's not a rumor. ❞ Does it sound less conceited, when this certainty is accompanied by angelic poise and brown eyes blinking sweetly? ❝ That is just the truth. ❞

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💬 + rumour has it that you're screwing our ugly redwyne cousins...

@ach1llean // send 💬 + a rumor and my muse will react to it.

The wrinkled nose at the idea is all answer one needs to know how she feels about that prospect, though the scoff settles it blatantly. ❝ They would like that, I'm sure. But do you truly believe I would, Loras? ❞ Offended at the thought. Margaery has much higher standards than that. ❝ What they lack in looks, they also lack in wits and kindness. What is there to be attracted by? ❞

And why would she subject herself to that willingly?

❝ Now, if we were talking Desmera maybe... ❞

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you know what she'd miss living in the north? the slutty dresses warm weather

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with the robbaery in my mind again i would simply like to say no amount of northern winter cold snow solemness would make margaery less lively. as lady of winterfell she would've been just as 'restless' as she is in king's landing, by which i mean always finding something to keep herself busy with, beyond running the castle. going out riding visiting the commonfolk entertaining visitors knowing their vassals interacting with the castle's household hearing about people's plights taking northern ladies as ladies-in-waiting hosting singers growing a garden. generally making the place more... full of life, in whichever little way she could. it's far from home and from her family, and it's entirely different from the reach, but this is a compromise that can be made, she would think; it would never be going against the northern ways, and she would never disrespect or belittle anything different for being different. doesn't mean the castle and its people can't use some more life.

as lady of winterfell, of course. queen in the north scenarios are a lot more complex and she would be under a lot more scrutiny from people who wouldn't want a southron lady as queen, on top of the context of war and everything. still, the general spirit of being very active and out and about to interact with people remains true regardless of scenario.

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i also love alerie casually spelling out the perception the tyrells want everyone to have as to what happened there. he choked on the pie everyone saw! it has nothing to do with margaery (or the rest of us!)

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"You are mistaken, my lord. The Fat Flower of Highgarden is quite convinced of your guilt, and determined to see you die. His precious Margaery was drinking from that chalice too, as he has reminded us half a hundred times."

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"No," the Knight of Flowers said, unamused. "Sansa Stark was the poisoner. You all forget, my sister was drinking from that chalice as well. Sansa Stark was the only person in the hall who had reason to want Margaery dead, as well as the king. By poisoning the wedding cup, she could hope to kill both of them. And why did she run afterward, unless she was guilty?"

margaery drinking from the same cup as joffrey is obviously a way to make the tyrells look blameless ( where they could've been suspects due to their former loyalties or joffrey being less malleable a king, they are not even considered at this point; margaery could've died just as easily, everyone saw it ). mace and loras both argue that, although pointing at different suspects. and i think it's also crucial indication margaery knew the plan from the start.

they wouldn't truly risk her life to get rid of joffrey. it's a carefully crafted plan, from what we know, even if there was an unexpected turn of events. they could've poisoned joffrey at any other time, made it look like a disease. instead they chose the moment all eyes were on him, and arranged things just right for it to look like an accident, because the more people watching the harder it'd be for anyone to claim they were involved. i don't think they were trying to frame tyrion; it was meant to be oh how tragic that joffrey choked and died sort of thing. alerie consoling margaery also supports that imo.

Margaery Tyrell began to sob, and Tyrion heard her mother Lady Alerie saying, "He choked, sweetling. He choked on the pie. It was naught to do with you. He choked. We all saw."

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Margaery Tyrell was weeping in her grandmother's arms as the old lady said, "Be brave, be brave."

marg crying when it happened, to me, isn't evidence that she didn't know - it isn't even about pretending. it's about how, no matter how involved with court intrigue she is, she's still a 16 year old who played a part in someone being murdered and dying horribly. she knows it's their doing and she was right beside joffrey while he choked, watching it happen with a horror that wasn't about being surprised about something bad happening, and rather knowing full well this was on purpose, planned, and that she played a part on it too. in that moment, she's not concerned with pretending, and she's not sad about joffrey either. it's the situation (and it actually happening right in front of her rather than existing as a concept and plan before) that leaves her like that.

i also think she was aware of it (or something in the sense of getting rid of joffrey) being planned. after she gains sansa's trust, sansa spontaneously speaks against her marrying joffrey because of how cruel he is, to which margaery points she has loras to protect her.

Joff might restrain himself for a few turns, perhaps as long as a year, but soon or late he will show his claws, and when he does . . . The realm might have a second Kingslayer, and there would be war inside the city, as the men of the lion and the men of the rose made the gutters run red. Sansa was surprised that Margaery did not see it too. She is older than me, she must be wiser. And her father, Lord Tyrell, he knows what he is doing, surely. I am just being silly.

but everyone can see that's a recipe for disaster because loras is likely to outright kill joffrey if he hurts his sister, which he inevitably would. sansa herself thinks it'd be a matter of time before blood was spilled, and is surprised margaery can't see it. which i don't think is the case at all for a character whose cleverness is noted by others and who's always portrayed as so mindful of the context she's in. margaery didn't worry because she knew they were getting rid of joffrey before it came to that, even if she might not have known the how and when at the time (or maybe she did! i just haven't checked timelines and stuff).

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The wedding feast was held in the Small Hall. There were perhaps fifty guests; Lannister retainers and allies for the most part, joining those who had been at the wedding. And here Sansa found the Tyrells. Margaery gave her such a sad look, and when the Queen of Thorns tottered in between Left and Right, she never looked at her at all. Elinor, Alia, and Megga seemed determined not to know her. My friends, Sansa thought bitterly.

i was looking for something else and came across this and it only made me feel more certain margaery wasn't entirely feigning her kindness to sansa. it makes sense to me because, from what we see, if there's one thing she's consistently genuine about is her love for her family, and they intended to marry sansa to willas. not only sansa would be family, while she'd comply with what benefits the tyrells no matter what, if she didn't like her or didn't think she was good enough for her brother, margaery would have dropped her without looking back the moment she wasn't useful anymore. and while the distancing will happen anyway, she does look back here. olenna pretends not to see her, the cousins pretend not to know her, but margaery 'gave her such a sad look' because she cares. she can't do anything to make things better, or to be there for sansa at all; ultimately her family and their plans always come first. but she genuinely feels heartbroken for sansa.

and how could she not, if she came to care genuinely for her? margaery loves highgarden more than she'll ever love any other place; when she promised sansa that, it wasn't lightly. she knows willas would have treated sansa kindly and respectfully, she knows sansa could've been happy because highgarden, to her, has always meant safety and happiness, things that would be extended to sansa as its future lady. she knows sansa has suffered greatly, and of course the tyrells wanted her claim to winterfell, but margaery wanted her to be happy too; they could have both. she promised sansa that. and she knows it's exceedingly cruel that sansa was dreaming of that and the lannisters figured out their plans and married her to tyrion. they both know she won't have anything akin to what could've been if sansa married willas.

sansa cries during the ceremony, and the tyrells aren't there, but it'd be obvious even at the feast, and it'd break margaery's heart. she doesn't have to pretend to be sad. in fact everyone probably expects that, their ploy dismantled, she'll ignore sansa entirely much like olenna does; but she doesn't. she's openly, noticeably sad. it's genuine in a way margaery usually isn't in king's landing.

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@kingmaketh &. SER CRISTON //  💚

❝ Ser Criston, ❞ Polite and pleasant greeting offered from the White Sword tower's door; she dares not intrude further on the Kingsguard than needed be. The Little Queen, as people have taken to calling her, is naught if not respectful — and what differences may exist between reachmen and the dornish, Ser Criston is approached only ever as befits the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.

It wouldn't do well to slight him, when the Dowager Queen and her children are all so very fond of the man.

❝ Forgive me the intrusion, but there is a matter I wish to discuss, if you have the time, ❞ Important, though her presence alone does not preclude that; in her short time as Aegon's wife, Margaery has shown herself to not be a queen content to let others act in her name without acting herself, be it inside the castle or in the city proper. ❝ Relative to how to best ensure His Grace's safety, though I have yet to speak to him on the matter. ❞

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@reachregent &. WILLAS // 💚

❝ Do you believe they truly have a chance to  win? ❞ If anyone will be truthful, it will be her brothers; and when it comes to strategy, 'tis the eldest who shines most brightly. Big brown eyes, more clever than sweet, wait for the reaction upon his face ( but the fidgeting with her necklace gives away the worry her serene expression belies ). ❝ The Greens, I mean. ❞❝ Rhaenyra has more dragons, and her father's favor besides, ❞ Deceased though the old king is, now, vows had been sworn. They were bound to have some weight when it came to alliances, no matter how little stock some put to them. Highgarden had said the words too, and yet father now chose to support Rhaenyra's enemies. They are kin to Alicent and her children; cousins to some degree through mother's side. Not that it matters. Father had chosen who to fight for based on the crown that would make her Aegon II's queen. Grandmother had called him a fool, and Margaery can only think she is right. ❝ Aegon is said to be quick to anger and little interested in ruling. I might be able to bend him, perhaps, but — ❞ we cannot fight dragons.

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*lying* why would i lie

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°❀⋆Margaery Tyrell, the little rose.ೃ࿔*:･