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Non-disordered plurality vs. Endogenic plurality: what’s the difference? (FAQ system edition)

What is plurality?

in its simplest form (it’s more complex then this, but this is at its simplest) the experience of multiple beings within one body. The most main stream form that gets talked about is DID, but there is many other forms of plurality. Within the mental health field, systems may also be diagnosed with OSDD-1, UDD, P-DID, (when it comes to labels for plurality at least, misdiagnosis is unfortunately very common as well) typically these get associated with traumagenic plurality, but this isn’t always the case since they are ultimately labels to help categorize plurality in a medical sense. Also not every system falls under these categories!

What’s endogenic plurality?

Endogenic plurality is typically a system who identifies that the system they are apart of was not formed from trauma. This isn’t always the case though! Systems can be Endogenic and traumagenic at the same time. Often times this gets called Multigenic, Mixed Origin, and/or Traumaendo. Also while some systems may identify as fully endogenic, this does not mean they don’t have trauma.

What’s traumagenic?

Traumagenic is a system formed from trauma, it is often associated with childhood trauma, but this isn’t always the case. Once again, traumagenic systems can be endogenic at the same time!

What’s “disordered plurality”?

All this term means is that the system in question deals with significant distress from plurality. This can be caused by amnesia, mental illness, society, not being used to being plural, and many, many other factors. Non-disordered means the person is not dealing with significant distress from the fact they are plural.

So what’s the difference?

Anyone can feel distress from being plural. A endogenic system may be considered a disordered system for many reasons, like maybe they are struggling to manage the fact they are plural along with depression, or they feel a lot of internalized shame and fear about it.

Non-disordered plurality just means the system is not in significant distress from being plural. This can range from a system functioning perfectly fine, to healing trauma, and healing amnesia barriers enough to function well.

Non-disordered plurality simply is functioning in a healthy manner with headmates, while endogenic plurality is referring to how the system originally formed. It’s something that will and does fluctuate overtime.

-Elliot

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PRO PLURAL / PRO ENDO FLAG

A flag for anyone who is pro plural or pro endo! Feel free to use this for whatever! I couldn’t find a pro endo flag i really liked so made my own! ^_^ If you use it in anything please mention me in the post! i’d love to see!

— plus, enjoy a pfp frame for all your pro endo pfp needs.

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☆ alter userboxes - flag ver ☆

star ver - heart ver

reblogs appreciated | requests open! ☆ please reblog if you use ⤶

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I think a big part of the reason that I went from anti-endo to endo-safe was absolutely due to how starkly different the communities felt.

Anti-endo communities were hard to engage with. Sure, some of them would focus on their support for each other more than their hatred of endogenic systems. And that's great! However, when you are brought together by your dislike of a certain group, you can't help but feel the hate permiate into so much of it. It always happened eventually. Anti-endo communities had such a focus on systems who were "fake" that I couldn't help but worry I was one of them, no matter how much they told me it was "just endos" they were concerned about.

The endo community (at least the parts I've engaged with and were easy to find) were so kind and respected me as a system, no matter how I felt or my plurality presented. Simply knowing we could find joy in our plurality allowed us to strive for so much more than we had thought possible before.

As a traumagenic system, we've improved so much with our symptoms and communication as a result of the positivity and acceptance we recieved. When we joined communities where we could be authenticallly ourselves (no matter what), we came together and faced so much less conflict between each other. And the conficts we did have, we realized that we could solve them together rather than alone.

When you are constantly doubting if you are "actually a system", you start to push the others away, and that made our dissociation and amnesia so much worse. I understand being careful of self-misdiangnosis, it can put you on the wrong path for how you learn to manage your symptoms. At the same time, the sentiment I often heard from endogenic systems when I was struggling with doubt and denial was very simple: "So what if you're not a system?" In short, it was okay to be wrong.

And that was huge for me. I realized that, no matter if I was a system or not, the techniques I used to improve ourselves and communicate with one another beneficial to me. At the end of the day, even if I wasn't a system after all, the skills I had found we invaluble to my health and well-being. So when I fall into denial spirals, no matter what I think about myself, I now know that I don't need to deprive myself of what has helped me, even if it is a "system thing." I don't feel scared to use these skills anymore (even in denial spirals), beacuse the line between what systems and non-systems or singlets can/can't do suddenly wasn't a big deal or a battle of "who can do what."

Our plurality is no longer a burden or a scar to us. It is simply who we are. We've learned so much about each other and ourselves since we've been accepted in full, and since we've learned to accept others. Endogenic communities have helped us (a traumagenic system) probably more than they'll ever know, and we're forever grateful for that.

So thank you, endogenic systems.

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(Probably Bad) Ways to Respond to "You're Not Acting Like Yourself"

A list for systems who aren't out yet

"Yeah, my theatre teacher gave out a pretty weird improv assignment this week."

"Wow, you humans are more perceptive than I thought! I'll have to tell the mothership of this."

"The self is a social construct."

"I sold my soul and this is my way of coping with the emptiness I now feel."

"So you know those soulmate AUs where you swap bodies with your soulmate?"

"I got my brain software updated; it included some patches to my personality."

"It's my horoscope."

"It's practice for when I go undercover on my next spy mission."

"Haha, yeah." *leans into watch* "They're onto me."

"I'm actually (name)'s long lost twin."

"Thanks for noticing!"

"I'm under a curse. Can you help me break it?"

"It's my rebellious phase."

"Shakespeare said, 'All the world's a stage,' and I've decided to take that literally."

"Don't worry, I'll be done possessing (name) soon, I just have to try (food) first."

Feel free to add your own!

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Proposing a Tag for Trauma Survivor Systems

🎵 I would like to propose we start a tag for all systems who are trauma survivors. Whether you're a fully traumagenic system, mixed origins, traumabased, have some alters who are fully or partially traumagenic, are non-disordered but have been impacted by trauma, or whatever else. System origins don't matter. Whether you're formally diagnosed with OSDDID or not doesn't matter. It would be supportive of informed self-diagnosis and of those trying to figure out if they might have OSDDID. Just a tag for systems who have dealt with or are dealing with trauma, free from the hate and vitriol that make up an inexcusably large portion of the current tags for trauma survivors. Because it is fucking exhausting trying to scroll the tags for trauma survivors as is.

I'm proposing the tag "#survivor systems" for that.

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a bunch of misc pro-endo related userboxes!!!(from very explicitly proe-endo to more discrete pro-endo userboxes !!!:DD!!!)

anyone is free to use these as-long as your not on our dni :D!

oh!! and credit is not required but highly appreciated :D

-June

oh also!! its my first time making userboxes so i hope they look ok :3

Flag used: Phoenix Plural Flag

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Please help me not die 🫶🏼

(link to article)

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An Introduction to Plurality (1/2)

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"endo safe" with no "anti endos DNI" as in I literally don't care if anti endos interact but you start shit with the others interacting on my posts I will bite back. My posts are a safe place for endogenic systems, and I'll protect my own on my territory.

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tfw system too mercurial for labels. shout out to systems who cannot describe their experience other than saying "clearly this is not a singlet experience"

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for the future to BE plural, for singlets to appreciate us, we need to post about being plural and make our voices heard! twitter tumblr youtube whatever, add the plurality flag to your pfps put it in your bios post about it make headcanons BE VOCAL!! let our voices be heard, speak up and promote plurality, spread awareness so the general public knows about it.

make it so they have no choice but to see us, THE FUTURE IS PLURAL!

(graphic from @/dreamlandsystem)

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we really like your url :0

thanks! we are pretty happy with it :)

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Hey, if you’re a system member reading this who ISN’T struggling…

Have you checked in with your headmates lately? Have you reached out to them to make sure they’re doing okay?

As system members we rely on each other, but it can sometimes be difficult to ask for help, especially if we’re in a bad place.

Your headmates may need a hand, but might have something preventing them from reaching out. There’s nothing wrong with taking the initiative to just ask if everyone is doing okay!

We’re sure your efforts will be appreciated. Show your headmates you care about them today!

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"This plural has trauma from anti endos" with the pro endogenic flag!