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I think an important part of ntt Raven that’s often forgotten in pretty much all subsequent versions is the specifics of her relationship with Trigon. Trigon stories is all she gets nowadays, but they’ve also been very watered down and are usually pretty badly told. 

I think the part that’s often overlooked is Trigon isn’t just tormenting her because he feels like it, he does genuinely want her to rule beside him. He does care about her to some extent because he wants to use her. Personally, I think this is way more interesting than him just wanting to use her to conquer Earth and then not care if she lives or dies (or actively trying to kill her). 

After Raven’s death at the hands of the Titans in the Terror of Trigon arc, he seems to be mourning her and argues with Arella when she says he never cared about her. 

He seems to view her life as having a value that he doesn’t assign to anyone else, because he sees her as being somewhat of equal status to himself. 

He even goes out of his way to make sure she won’t die during his invasion of Earth.

Don’t get me wrong, he’s still an awful father who only cares about Raven for his own selfish reasons (and probably doesn’t see her truly as a person and more as an extension of himself or a possession), but there’s more to their relationship than him just wanting to use her to conquer Earth. This version is personally much more compelling to me. Raven isn’t fighting him to save her own life, but because she cares so deeply about other people and Earth. Her struggle is much harder when she’s fighting against becoming like Trigon instead of just becoming his vessel. 

I think this aspect of her has been lost in a lot of modern comics. I hope it’ll be brought back, or at least there will be some good fics about it. 

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crash

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South Asian Raven when DC????

You modeled her after a South Asian woman, she used to wear South Asian clothing

Donna freakin Troy thought she was South Asian

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Raven deserves to destroy the dc universe one day if they insist on trigon plot or her being evil

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if raven isn’t indian then why the fuck is she wearing a bindi?

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I think it would just be funny if DC made like a HBO Max show or something that’s just the misadventures of their Magic Users.

Like, Zatanna would instantly be the main character, objectively. Her thing could be that she just wants to like- be a regular stage magician but is constantly bombarded with random magic issues.

By association John Constantine would be the acting duo protagonist. I firmly believe he should just be Zatanna’s annoying ex who randomly shows up on her couch. Probably has similar development to his Legends of Tomorrow show counterpart.

Then it’s probably the magic user of the week who summoned an elder god or something. Characters like Ragman and Dr. Fate probably deserve a few focus episodes. There would probably be some magic Atlantan artifact or something that would introduce King Shark. Mainly just to have a romantic plot with John.

Raven and Shazam would weasel their way into “main” character status. Zee and John would probably like- accidentally start raising like a 15-ish Raven, sort of, cuz of the whole Trigon thing. They would probably fight him in a season finale type deal or something.

Billy would just be the biggest chaotic force in the show, would probably have some really amusing scenes as Shazam before he lets them know he’s like barely 14.

Billy would probably bring the seven deadly sins as a plot line with him. So they probably travel to Hell and face/meet them one at a time, working their way to Mammon. Maybe Zatanna gets a cool succubus gf like Chantinelle down there I don’t know.

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y’all i’m tired of hiding my truth, i unironically liked raven as a teenager😖 she’s literally just like me and when ppl say she’s annoying as a teen, it genuinely feels like an attack to me🙄💀/hj

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Rachel Roth / Raven

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YES raven is an amazing, powerful, intelligent hero, a sorceress and demon spawn yadda yadda, she ALSO has absolutely no fucking clue how to use technology. she doesnt know how wifi works. she tried to use a computer mouse by putting it ON the screen. she does not get it. modern technology is the one kind of witchcraft she cannot comprehend no matter how hard she tries.

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My like of Damirae is just

•you can have a little straight as a treat

•Goth bf and goth gf

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Constantine was very close to hunting down Raven once. However, he soon realized that she is not truly evil, she just happens to have a demon dad. They both talked about demon stuff and agreed to team up whenever truly horrible demons showed up.

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Parte 8

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fireball

Raven: *sprays perfume*

Constantine: “hey *sniffs* why does it smell like a fireball in here?”

Raven: “fire what? Its cinnamon you fucking alcoholic.”