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marauders as stupid things my friends have said:
sirius: I kicked the bucket today y’all
remus: I'm gonna kick your bucket if you don't shut up
james: That sounds like an innuendo
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marauders as stupid things my friends have said:
james: (on a table) I'm a god bitches
remus: I thank God everyday that you aren’t god
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ive been plotting this out for years but I still don't know how I'm going to end it... tonally, for this story, I don't think its right to end completely happily but thats what I really what to do.
#marauders#jily#jegulus#wolfstar#dorlene#rosekiller#james potter#sirius black#remus lupin#peter pettigrew#lily evans#marlene mckinnon#mary macdonald#dorcas meadowes#regulus black#pandora rosier#evan rosier#barty crouch jr
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It's been a while but, revisiting the topic, my opinions have changed a tiny bit. While previously I was split fifty-fifty between Gale and Peeta's moralities, I think honestly I'm firmly on Gale's side now.
I don't think it was a coincidence that Gale was written to be frustrating and entitled to Katniss's feelings, to make Peeta's ideologies seem nicer.
Liberalism and diplomacy in the face of DECADES-LONG INSTITUTIONALISED OPPRESSION will do nothing. Peeta's approach, while a nice sentiment, is just that. A sentiment.
(yes ofc peeta's nicer to katniss and so their endgame is right and whatever but gale's IDEOLOGIES were right)
Revolution at all costs is not the problem and Gale's 'killing Prim' was not accidental. The way the audiences perceive it, you'd think that he went out of his way to kill her, and Suzanne Collins probably wants you to dislike him, even if she didn't intend for him to be hated.
'But Gale didn't care if innocent Capitol citizens died' were they ever innocent? The only innocents are the children. Those adults have the autonomy to understand that murder is wrong. Every day, we're fed the rhetoric online that the Isreal-Palestine conflict is complex, but we know better. We know that people being starved and murdered while their houses are taken is wrong. They should too.
And I doubt it's a coincidence that Suzanne's new book is coming out at a time like this - about 'propaganda' like girl if you're going to play on it at least speak out about the issue.
On Gale though - he wanted to be free. What else was he meant to do? Without all the violence, diplomacy wouldn't have stood a chance. It's the actions of Gale that gave Katniss the choice to choose Peeta. The Capitol wouldn't have relented otherwise.
Saying that he shouldn't have had the violent rebellion is like saying that 'yeah they're bad but don't hurt them :(' and if you don't see the problem with that then maybe you need to rethink your personal ethics a bit.
Am I still firmly 'team peeta' FOR KATNISS? yes but thats only bc gale was lowkey a dick to her sometimes (AND HES STILL A PRODUCT OF HIS ENVIRONMENT) but that still means that eventually Peeta was right for Katniss - he's a lovely person.
BUT GALE'S IDEOLOGIES WERE RIGHT.
(a lot of my change in opinion came from this tiktok, and she explains it far better than I do! do check it out)
you want complex characters? here's Gale.
I am fully convinced that people only hate Gale bc it's Liam Hemsworth and because they think he's annoying - and yeah, it's true, he IS annoying, but to like president snow more than him? (its pretty privilege)
Most people know by now that the love triangle in thg is for metaphorical purposes - the choice between peace and war. And it's not even a choice as a reader - there is quite literally no chemistry between gale and katniss (in my opinion). But that doesn't merit hatred for the character himself.
He grows up in the seam, poor and being the breadwinner for his siblings. (how sad) We're supposed to disagree with his motives by the end of it - he shouldn't want to get revenge because that makes him as bad as the capitol (yada yada yada). And Peeta is in the right because he wants to show mercy. (peace vs war)
But Peeta grows up as the bakers son. Has he ever gone hungry? No. Are we meant to feel bad for him because of his mum? idk. His name was in the bowl far, far less times. Does that make it any better? No, because he's picked (and this is meant to be about how the system is awful... you get it). But Peeta doesn't grow up hating the capitol because they don't hurt him... until the games.
Is this an attack on Peeta? No, of course not, but circumstances are important as the actions taken within them (situation ethics). Peeta goes into the games and you'd think his outlook on life changes, but it doesn't. Some people have stronger cores - a lifetime of security within yourself does that.
Peeta goes into the games again, Gale saves the citizens of 12 in the bombing. Peeta's kidnapped. And Gale says this:
"He might have been tortured. Or persuaded. My guess is he made some kind of deal to protect you. He'd put forth the idea of the cease- fire if Snow let him present you as a confused pregnant girl who had no idea what was going on when she was taken prisoner by the rebels. This way, if the districts lose, there's still a chance of leniency for you. If you play it right." I must still look perplexed because Gale delivers the next line very slowly. "Katniss…he's still trying to keep you alive."
So, he's annoying, but is he a liar? No. He's ever the strategist, thinking of things from the logical point of view. (really grasping for straws but I need a pro and less cons😭)
People really hated Gale for bombs - killing innocent people that just want to help the fallen? (ohno how sad). But are capitol citizens ever really innocent? Bystanders that simply allow children to be murdered year after year? The idea that they simply have no idea of the harm being caused is ludicrous. Do they not have critical thinking skills? No matter what happens in life, you KNOW murder is wrong. No matter what propaganda media shows you.
(also Beetee helped make those bombs too like gale was annoying but stop giving him full credit like if I was beetee I'd be pissed)
So, that comes to the idea that killing people as a whole is unethical, and it doesn't matter that they're awful people. Is that untrue? No. Is it far to those that have been oppressed their entire lives, being told that using force against their oppressors is wrong? Maybe. It's not an easy issue to resolve (kinda explains the metaphor, doesn't it?)
Neoliberalism probably wants you to blame the individuals. Coin, Gale, Snow. Coin and Snow were two sides of the same coin (ooh pun) - politicians, adults, playing for their own power. Is it wrong to enjoy power? No, of course not, just don't abuse it. Gale enjoyed power. But he was fighting for the freedom of the country, not himself. And he's only 19/20. You're a lot angrier when you're younger, as many adults forget.
The system is the real problem, clearly. Why should the capitol have all the power? Why are the districts being used? We don't know. But that's unimportant.
And then there's Katniss. She's the one making the decision - peace or war. On paper, its peace anyday. Katniss has seen both Peeta and Gale's hardships - Gale is a metaphor for who she could have been. Bitter, angry and hateful. It's not unjustified hatred but under Kantian ethics, murder is always wrong. Katniss does not want to retaliate because it's a vicious cycle of violence.
As far as we know, the capitol don't really pay for all they do. I know if I was a district citizen who suffered, I'd want capitol citizens to feel the same way. That is not to say that it is ethical, but it is not unjustified.
It would be more of a fair argument if Peeta and Gale suffered equally, but can you really quantify suffering. Their experiences shape them. Its easier for Peeta to want mercy for the capitol because he wasn't starved his whole life. And Peeta's stance is the right one.
But see, that's why we say complex character and not good person. Because the decisions aren't malicious in intent, just with clashing personal values to the norm. Like, bffr, half the people online hating on this guy would NOT have stood for mercy for the capitol.
(anyway have a nice day this was my ethics essay plan and I'd better get a 9 on it or else <333)
#the hunger games#catching fire#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#mockingjay#ethics#morality#gale hawthorne#peeta mellark#katniss everdeen
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why do we forgive Penelope Featherington for being Lady Whistledown but not Dan for being Gossip Girl (even tho Dan should not be gossip girl at all)?? Its a genuine question.
esp bc there's so many worse characters on gg (chuck SAs a girl in the pilot and hurts blair PLENTY afterward) but the most hated ones are jenny (loml), dan and vanessa (who are all, coincidentally the 'poor' ones).
#bridgerton#penelope featherington#penelope bridgerton#dan humphrey#gossip girl#jenny humphrey#vanessa abrams#lady whistledown#chuck bass#blair waldorf#serena van der woodsen#nate archibald
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guys I watched this show a long time ago - 'Basic White Schrodinger', but all evidence of it ever existing is gone????
it was like 'Derry Girls' meets 'Friends' meets 'Brooklyn 99' and it was about these girls attending an all-girl grammar school in South London, and I remember EVERY detail but can't find it online anywhere?
^^ there was a picture something like this used in the promo, five girls against the ski with their fingers in a star.
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you know it's bad when you're reading a fanfic and then suddenly the clothing is being given a bit too much description and suddenly you get 2014 flashbacks because the pictures look like this
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you want complex characters? here's Gale.
I am fully convinced that people only hate Gale bc it's Liam Hemsworth and because they think he's annoying - and yeah, it's true, he IS annoying, but to like president snow more than him? (its pretty privilege)
Most people know by now that the love triangle in thg is for metaphorical purposes - the choice between peace and war. And it's not even a choice as a reader - there is quite literally no chemistry between gale and katniss (in my opinion). But that doesn't merit hatred for the character himself.
He grows up in the seam, poor and being the breadwinner for his siblings. (how sad) We're supposed to disagree with his motives by the end of it - he shouldn't want to get revenge because that makes him as bad as the capitol (yada yada yada). And Peeta is in the right because he wants to show mercy. (peace vs war)
But Peeta grows up as the bakers son. Has he ever gone hungry? No. Are we meant to feel bad for him because of his mum? idk. His name was in the bowl far, far less times. Does that make it any better? No, because he's picked (and this is meant to be about how the system is awful... you get it). But Peeta doesn't grow up hating the capitol because they don't hurt him... until the games.
Is this an attack on Peeta? No, of course not, but circumstances are important as the actions taken within them (situation ethics). Peeta goes into the games and you'd think his outlook on life changes, but it doesn't. Some people have stronger cores - a lifetime of security within yourself does that.
Peeta goes into the games again, Gale saves the citizens of 12 in the bombing. Peeta's kidnapped. And Gale says this:
"He might have been tortured. Or persuaded. My guess is he made some kind of deal to protect you. He'd put forth the idea of the cease- fire if Snow let him present you as a confused pregnant girl who had no idea what was going on when she was taken prisoner by the rebels. This way, if the districts lose, there's still a chance of leniency for you. If you play it right." I must still look perplexed because Gale delivers the next line very slowly. "Katniss…he's still trying to keep you alive."
So, he's annoying, but is he a liar? No. He's ever the strategist, thinking of things from the logical point of view. (really grasping for straws but I need a pro and less cons😭)
People really hated Gale for bombs - killing innocent people that just want to help the fallen? (ohno how sad). But are capitol citizens ever really innocent? Bystanders that simply allow children to be murdered year after year? The idea that they simply have no idea of the harm being caused is ludicrous. Do they not have critical thinking skills? No matter what happens in life, you KNOW murder is wrong. No matter what propaganda media shows you.
(also Beetee helped make those bombs too like gale was annoying but stop giving him full credit like if I was beetee I'd be pissed)
So, that comes to the idea that killing people as a whole is unethical, and it doesn't matter that they're awful people. Is that untrue? No. Is it far to those that have been oppressed their entire lives, being told that using force against their oppressors is wrong? Maybe. It's not an easy issue to resolve (kinda explains the metaphor, doesn't it?)
Neoliberalism probably wants you to blame the individuals. Coin, Gale, Snow. Coin and Snow were two sides of the same coin (ooh pun) - politicians, adults, playing for their own power. Is it wrong to enjoy power? No, of course not, just don't abuse it. Gale enjoyed power. But he was fighting for the freedom of the country, not himself. And he's only 19/20. You're a lot angrier when you're younger, as many adults forget.
The system is the real problem, clearly. Why should the capitol have all the power? Why are the districts being used? We don't know. But that's unimportant.
And then there's Katniss. She's the one making the decision - peace or war. On paper, its peace anyday. Katniss has seen both Peeta and Gale's hardships - Gale is a metaphor for who she could have been. Bitter, angry and hateful. It's not unjustified hatred but under Kantian ethics, murder is always wrong. Katniss does not want to retaliate because it's a vicious cycle of violence.
As far as we know, the capitol don't really pay for all they do. I know if I was a district citizen who suffered, I'd want capitol citizens to feel the same way. That is not to say that it is ethical, but it is not unjustified.
It would be more of a fair argument if Peeta and Gale suffered equally, but can you really quantify suffering. Their experiences shape them. Its easier for Peeta to want mercy for the capitol because he wasn't starved his whole life. And Peeta's stance is the right one.
But see, that's why we say complex character and not good person. Because the decisions aren't malicious in intent, just with clashing personal values to the norm. Like, bffr, half the people online hating on this guy would NOT have stood for mercy for the capitol.
(anyway have a nice day this was my ethics essay plan and I'd better get a 9 on it or else <333)
#the hunger games#catching fire#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#mockingjay#ethics#morality#gale hawthorne#peeta mellark#katniss everdeen
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okay but you're so right like I remember once upon a time when I was a tween and I would have the channels memorised and I used to turn the tv on at a specific time to watch the shows I wanted and now netflix exists and that's great and all but it's just different?? or when I used to read on fanfiction.net and now people just call the website old??? I read published books, and it was all illegally using zlib and the like, but I sort of miss being that time of my life? or like, ballet, I remember looking up to the older students in class because they were so beautiful and elegant and I knew I'd never be as amazing as them and now I'm the older student - I just miss their constant presence knowing I still had time. And obviously I still read, I still watch shows, I still do ballet, but its changed.
do you ever get nostalgic for old hobbies and not even hobbies you no longer do but the ones you do but over the years the way you do that hobby has changed? like i've always been a reader. I read so many books in high school that I can't even count but then when fanfic became real popular I got into fanfic and it was reading but, in a way, better because it was free! So i stopped reading published books but then over the years, the fanfic authors I'd invested in stopped posting and new ones popped up and I'm sure they're great but then maybe I just got sick of reading about the same characters written in a thousand and one different ways and I'd finished uni so could afford books again and so I went back to published books and yet, sometimes I still find myself nostalgic for fanfic. Or movies and shows. I used to watch a movie in a cinema and hang for the DVD release, buy it and watch the crap out of it. I still remember my The Mummy obsession when I was in Year 8. I would get home from school and watch one of three movies each afternoon. Now, I can not tell you the last time I rewatched a movie on streaming after already watching it at the cinema, let alone rewatching it more than once. And shows, again, I remember hanging for week-by-week episode releases but then when Netflix introduced the whole drop one season all in one day, I loved it but now I find myself nostalgic for that one-episode a week format. I don't know, don't you ever just get nostalgic for hobbies and how they once were?
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reblogging to read later
ok but picture a fic where the marauders end up in slytherin instead - suddenly the harmless pranks are actually seen are dangerous, suddenly Sirius isn't seen as an outcast but the perfect heir, suddenly James isn't seen as a lighthearted joker but a malicious arsehole, Remus isn't a weird, smart kid but a mysterious and broody dick, Peter's not hanging onto coattails but in an environment that suits him perfectly.
They end up death eaters, alongside Regulus, Barty and Evan - they do all the wrong things for all the right reasons. They're suddenly as awful as everyone expected them to be - but they're still all a group. And they're navigating life in a time when the political waters are so murky that right and wrong aren't so clear-cut anymore.
(and ofc the girls have their own kick-arse resistance)
sound cool? well, I had too much time and I wrote it and currently its around 81k words long.
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SPOLIERSSSSS
#evajacks#jacks x evangeline#evangeline fox#jacks#a curse for true love#ouabh#tbona#SPOILERS#IT HAPPENED#OHMIGOD
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#evajacks#a curse for true love#spoiler#evangeline fox#jacks#jacks x evangeline#aghhhhh#I CANNOT ITS SO CUTE
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HELP my biology teacher has a slang dictionary (why does he need one he's only 32??????)
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James eventually actually bought Remus a badly-behaved rabbit, so that whenever he mentioned his 'furry little problem', people weren't confused.
Instead, however, this results in the marauders themselves being the confused ones, being unsure if James is talking about Remus being a werewolf or the bunny.
what animals do you think the marauders era characters brought with them to school? all i know is that lily had a cat and the marauders accidentally killed a fish names gus.
#marauders era#james potter#sirius black#remus lupin#peter pettigrew#you cannot convince me otherwise
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when you defend a character and people say you have a crush on them:
#taylor swift#marauders#guys I'm into girls please chill#regulus black#cardan greenbriar#james potter#sirius black#remus lupin#peter pettigrew#kaz brekker#six of crows#will herondale#jem carstairs#the infernal devices#dorian havilliard#throne of glass#severus snape#jameson hawthorne#grayson hawthorne#the inheritance games
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icky things guys have said to my friends, part 1:
my friend: You know I’m gay, right?
guy: we can change that.
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it’s been ages can ao3 please come back now? :(
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