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Just Like the First Time.

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💞💗💟💓💕💖

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Bayard Rustin was an openly gay Black man who was Martin Luther King’s right hand man. He planned the Million Man March and was subject to scrutiny for his sexuality and deemed a “deviant” and “pervert”.

Bayard Rustin can be found in nearly every picture of MLK yet he has undoubtedly been erased from history. We have to fix that.

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Alright, let’s break this down again. I know a lot of that was my own fault for maybe wording some things wrong and they didn’t come off in the way they should’ve, so I’m trying to explain myself better.

First of all, no, my intention was not to police or dictate what kind of porn people should enjoy, it was a suggestion: if you are a woman, who sexualizes a m/m couple to hell and back, without EVER doing the same to f/f or f/m couples and then wonder “why do people think the fandom is only full of fujoshi”, maybe the reason is that you focus so much on the sexual aspect and the couple overall that yes, that is how it’s gonna be seen? If you paint your house almost completely red, maybe you put in some yellow and black and pink, but like 95% of the color is red, why would you wonder why people see your house as mostly red and think that is the color you like best??? I know this is a dumbass comparison but I hope it gets the point cross. If you don’t want people to see your house as completely red, maybe... don’t paint it completely red? Maybe? If you want people to see the YOI fandom as more than full of fujoshi, then yeah, you should ease off the porn, cause that is kind of the source of the problem?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being sexual and finding things sexually arousing. But it is not a black & white issue: for an example, I have encountered a lot of men who think me & my girlfriend exist for their pleasure, thanks to watching so much lesbian pornography that they think they have the right to ask us to have a threesome with them, whistle at us when we’re affectionate in public etc. I find it offensive and dehumanizing. I should’ve been clearer that not all men who like f/f porn are creepy and gross, but a lot of them treat queer women like objects in real life, so that’s what I meant. When lesbian relationships have only been accepted as male fantasy for a long long long time, I think it’s fair for queer women to be angry about it? Same goes for queer men who are offended by women who create m/m porn for their own pleasure, a lot of fujoshis even being homophobic in real life, or saying shit like “gay men are hot but lesbians are gross” which is fucking disgusting. 

M/m relationships have almost only seen as sexual in real life, people immediately thinking about sex when they hear two men are dating, calling them perverts etc as if gay men are incapable of love & affection. That kind of attitude is also present in a lot of female-dominated fandoms, when they ever only see m/m couples as potentially sexual (not saying they’re literally the same thing, just the thought of always seeing m/m as sexual compared to f/f or f/m), I wouldn’t have as much of a problem with women who sexualize m/m if they did it to f/m or f/f as much, but they don’t. They see m/m as the most potentially sexual one and also the most sexually pleasing to them.

Good for you if you don’t really have a problem with people sexualizing same-sex relationships and you’re cool with it, but please remember that is not the perception of every queer person. I am not claiming to speak for all of them either, cause I’ve seen a handful of Western queer men who have been delighted with YOI, but I’ve also seen a ton of Japanese men who are not pleased with it. Japan is a country that doesn’t even have nationally enforced laws to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from discrimination and it’s still a very openly homophobic society where same-sex relationships are often thought of as fantasy for either straight men or straight women, so in fiction it is a-okay, but no way in hell in real life. There is the massive industry of BL, overshadowing any manga market that is for and by gay men and its way more acceptable to be a woman who enjoys gay erotica than an actual gay man who enjoys gay erotica. That is why a lot of people have problems with women sexualizing m/m couples, cause in Japan, it has lead a lot of people thinking m/m is only okay for women to enjoy, but not for gay men. 

The problem is not women who openly enjoy porn, but the fact that most of it is m/m porn, I don’t think women would be ridiculed if they consumed other types of porn at the rate they do m/m? Of course it is gonna alienate people from the show, I have been alienated from a lot of fandoms cause the huge male portion of it kept sexualizing & fetishizing f/f couples. I completely agree that people shouldn’t judge a show by it’s fandom, but when the fandom wonders why don’t people take them and their show seriously, maybe they should actually deal with the root of the problem if it bothers them so much? 

Just a suggestion. 

I'm sorry,,,but STOP. YURI ON ICE DOESN'T DESERVE ALL ITS AWARDS ITS A SHITTY SHOW FOR FANGIRLS TO NOSBLEED ABOUT HOT YAOIZ!!!!1! literally the only reason it won b/c of all of its fujoshis and ur just one of them,,,

I don’t know about you, buddy, but unless you know, this anime was basically given a low-ass budget, had to go through hell to get greenlit, and then got popular.Part of the reason is the healthy, beautiful, and consensual same-sex relationship (which, by the way, is not yaoi), and other reasons include the beautifully orchestrated OST, the non-stereotyped representation of POC, how the show humanizes every character in the end of just 12 episodes, the gender-fluidity of the characters. and how mental health is treated with actual respect. If you’re one of those fans who are yelling about how it won ‘best animation’, here’s some insight on how hard it was to animate (part of the reason why so many companies turned the idea down). 

22 skating programs. That’s already thousands and thousands of frames.  Given the lack of downtime in between competitions (episode 6 on must have been hell), the animators had to constantly be drawing these programs. Combine that with Yuri on Ice’s low budget and lack of time- of course it’s going to look a bit distorted. Yet it still managed to make the skating scenes presentable, and and even enjoyable, to the point where many ice skaters are able to recreate the choreography. Honestly, as someone who’s tried to animate,I can say that the animators really deserve some respect.Should they have won? Maybe not. Did they? Yes. Should you go yell at a fan because of it? No and honey, you need to chill. You make it sound as if it’s only young females that watch this show. Like, it’s not as if a multitude of professional ice skaters such as Johnny Weir, Evgenia Mendvedva, Denis Ten, Michael Martinez, Stephane Lambiel, Deniss Vasiljevs, and Evgeni Plushenko and so many others have tweeted about it, some even spamming their followers about this anime. South Park referenced Yuri on Ice. The amount of men in places such as Indonesia and Malaysia, with a bit of a warped vision about homosexuality, stating that the show had opened their eyes and made same sex love look not so taboo.So, just fangirls now?Maybe, the reason why Yuri on Ice won was because of its way of drawing non-anime fans into appreciating anime because of its realism. Because it had an OST that was more than memorable. Because the POC were represented so well (especially with characters like Phichit, Otabek, Leo, etc.) and were normalized, instead of treated like stereotypes. Because it humanized every single character, like JJ, Chris, and especially Yurio. Because it allowed characters to explore their gender-fluidity (Viktor’s past, and Yuuri performing Eros). Because it didn’t shy away from mental health, with Yuuri and JJ’s panic attacks, and how the people around them did nothing but give their full love and support. Because it refused to ever make anyone look like a complete enemy, every skater had their own dreams, goals and hardships. Because when we’re presented with Yuuri and Viktor’s romance, we don’t just see them as two boys who want to get into each others’ pants. We see them as two people, people who developed a relationship through consent and talking their feelings with one another, and in turn, are now on their way to being married. Because two women had a dream, and even with a low budget, high expectations and a smaller studio, made it happen and people all over the world are more than ready to share it. Yuri on Ice’s Bluray and DVDs already sold 50,878 copies in the first week, and 0.5% of animes actually reach that kind of result. The OST is the third best selling CD and first best selling in digital sales in its first week. We’ve already topped more bestselling anime soundtracks than Viktor Nikiforov has records. For an anime ‘directed at fujoshis’

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When a girl is so beautiful she literally leaves you breathless

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Girls’ Dance

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Honestly, I want to drop the Crunchyroll Anime Awards already but I want to make one thing about them clear.

There are a lot of people saying “calm down they don’t mean shit” and, well, it is a contest for fans and it’s meant to be fun, but please remember it does have an impact in the Western anime fandom. Crunchyroll is one of the biggest representatives of anime in the West, so of course this is going to affect how people see these animes, it does not give a fair amount of advertisement and praise for animes who don’t have a clear target audience who they pander to. 

YOI deserved a lot of the awards, but some it definitely didn’t and I’m sure everyone knows it won cause it was so popular. I wish the YOI fandom wouldn’t turn into insensitive crybabies who can’t take any criticism cause that is going to just make their reputation worse. A fandom that cannot admit it’s own shortcomings shouldn’t wonder why it is disliked and discredited. 

Now, this is not only the problem with YOI, this kind of shit has gone down in many different fandoms, whether they were male-dominated or female-dominated, but round and round we go when people refuse to act like adults and recognize the faults within their own side. 

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Now, I don’t doubt at all that people were drawn to YOI because of it’s inclusivity; for me personally, the very realistic description of anxiety & mental health was one of the strongest points for me from the very start, not to even mention the wonderful inclusion of a lot of different nationalities without making them stereotypical and of course the wonderful same-sex romance.

But that does not, however, change the fact that the vast majority of the fanbase IS female. And I don’t think anyone can really disagree that the most visible part of it is victuuri shipping and whenever there’s a large female-dominated fandom that only seems to talk about the m/m couple of course it’s gonna seem that is the only thing people care about. YOI does not have a massive queer male fanbase and especially in Japan it’s almost non-existent: YOI has been taken over by the fujoshi there, it is marketed towards women, so of course queer men are gonna feel it’s not for them, just another show that caters to women. 

Would this show be as popular if the characters weren’t two attractive, young guys? If they were WAY older and not that attractive or if they were female? I think the answer is obvious: of course not. Just think about this; what if it was reserved? A show with a f/f couple, made by a self-identified straight man, clearly targeted at (straight) men and the fanbase largely consists of men, wouldn’t people be saying it just panders to men? Just fetishization of f/f relationships? I think the answer is obvious.

I doubt that YOI is hated for what the show stands for, it has been praised by a massive amount of different people and in my opinion, it definitely deserves it. It’s a rare, wonderful anime that represents so much for all of us. But the problems lies in the fanbase. The very very very visible, female-dominated part that mostly just focuses on victuuri and even sexualizes & fetishizes it; THAT does not look good and takes away so much credibility from the show when it very clearly seems like women only care about the two hot guys together even if it wasn’t the case, but when they make it all about the couple, that’s how it’s gonna be seen.

Let’s not pretend that female-dominated fandoms don’t sexualize and thrive on m/m relationships, cause just look at this site: it’s mostly used by women & girls and most of the popular pairings are m/m. In Japan, one of the biggest anime & manga industries is BL, which was created for and by women who want to fetishize m/m relationships for their own pleasure. 

I wish that huge female-dominated fandoms didn’t come at the expense of sexualizing m/m couples. It’s offensive and dehumanizing to queer men and alienates them from the show, leaving an amazing mlm anime only seen as something for women to lust after. If women didn’t want to be seen as brainless fujoshi, I think the great place to start is to just… stop the massive sexualization of m/m couples since in my opinion, women don’t really have any business even sexualizing m/m ships, it’s just as gross and creepy as men who like f/f porn. 

My fear is that YOI, thanks to women who are obsessed over m/m couples, will not be seen as a great LGBTQ+ anime to people outside of the fandom, but just another fujoshi show and that is incredibly concerning. There are a lot of female fans who are genuinely only interested in the representation and the beautiful romance, not in how the guys would have sex or how “hot they are”. If you’re wondering why YOI is losing it’s credibility at the speed of light, I think that is the answer. 

I'm sorry,,,but STOP. YURI ON ICE DOESN'T DESERVE ALL ITS AWARDS ITS A SHITTY SHOW FOR FANGIRLS TO NOSBLEED ABOUT HOT YAOIZ!!!!1! literally the only reason it won b/c of all of its fujoshis and ur just one of them,,,

I don’t know about you, buddy, but unless you know, this anime was basically given a low-ass budget, had to go through hell to get greenlit, and then got popular.Part of the reason is the healthy, beautiful, and consensual same-sex relationship (which, by the way, is not yaoi), and other reasons include the beautifully orchestrated OST, the non-stereotyped representation of POC, how the show humanizes every character in the end of just 12 episodes, the gender-fluidity of the characters. and how mental health is treated with actual respect. If you’re one of those fans who are yelling about how it won ‘best animation’, here’s some insight on how hard it was to animate (part of the reason why so many companies turned the idea down). 

22 skating programs. That’s already thousands and thousands of frames.  Given the lack of downtime in between competitions (episode 6 on must have been hell), the animators had to constantly be drawing these programs. Combine that with Yuri on Ice’s low budget and lack of time- of course it’s going to look a bit distorted. Yet it still managed to make the skating scenes presentable, and and even enjoyable, to the point where many ice skaters are able to recreate the choreography. Honestly, as someone who’s tried to animate,I can say that the animators really deserve some respect.Should they have won? Maybe not. Did they? Yes. Should you go yell at a fan because of it? No and honey, you need to chill. You make it sound as if it’s only young females that watch this show. Like, it’s not as if a multitude of professional ice skaters such as Johnny Weir, Evgenia Mendvedva, Denis Ten, Michael Martinez, Stephane Lambiel, Deniss Vasiljevs, and Evgeni Plushenko and so many others have tweeted about it, some even spamming their followers about this anime. South Park referenced Yuri on Ice. The amount of men in places such as Indonesia and Malaysia, with a bit of a warped vision about homosexuality, stating that the show had opened their eyes and made same sex love look not so taboo.So, just fangirls now?Maybe, the reason why Yuri on Ice won was because of its way of drawing non-anime fans into appreciating anime because of its realism. Because it had an OST that was more than memorable. Because the POC were represented so well (especially with characters like Phichit, Otabek, Leo, etc.) and were normalized, instead of treated like stereotypes. Because it humanized every single character, like JJ, Chris, and especially Yurio. Because it allowed characters to explore their gender-fluidity (Viktor’s past, and Yuuri performing Eros). Because it didn’t shy away from mental health, with Yuuri and JJ’s panic attacks, and how the people around them did nothing but give their full love and support. Because it refused to ever make anyone look like a complete enemy, every skater had their own dreams, goals and hardships. Because when we’re presented with Yuuri and Viktor’s romance, we don’t just see them as two boys who want to get into each others’ pants. We see them as two people, people who developed a relationship through consent and talking their feelings with one another, and in turn, are now on their way to being married. Because two women had a dream, and even with a low budget, high expectations and a smaller studio, made it happen and people all over the world are more than ready to share it. Yuri on Ice’s Bluray and DVDs already sold 50,878 copies in the first week, and 0.5% of animes actually reach that kind of result. The OST is the third best selling CD and first best selling in digital sales in its first week. We’ve already topped more bestselling anime soundtracks than Viktor Nikiforov has records. For an anime ‘directed at fujoshis’

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If you don’t have any inspiration left, you’re as good as dead

EDIT: please click for HQ, tumblr hates vertical pictures D:

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I’m sorry I don’t know if you want to drop this subject already but I feel like I have to share some thoughts.

I think a lot of the problems come from the fact that yes, most of the time when the fans talk abut YOI, it’s about victuuri. It is CLEARLY the most talked about aspect of the series and that is why it seems that women only care about the m/m aspect to the people outside of the YOI fandom and it sadly leads to them thinking it’s just “fujoshi pandering”. 

What I fear is things like this taking away the credibility of YOI seen as a great victory for LGBTQ+ people and especially mlm. If the fandom seems like a bunch of fujoshis who are obsessed with the main male couple, it’s not gonna look good. That is the problem with a lot of female-dominated fandoms: a lot of the times they sexualize m/m couples, creating tons of fanworks of them having sex, talking about what kind of sex they would have etc and that kind of constant sexualization of m/m relationships by people who, tbh have really no business even sexualizing a relationship between two men, leads to people only to believe it was created for the pleasure of women. And that is also very offensive and damaging to queer men, especially in Japan that has a whole industry around sexualizing m/m relationships for a female audience (BL/yaoi).

I don’t think it’s a contest between whose worse, men or women, but when talking about YOI, I don’t think it’s problems necessarily lie in in the fact that the fanbase is largely female, but the gross, constant sexualization and fetishization of m/m relationship that female-dominated fandoms usually engage in on a very large scale, talking about them like “omg my OTP became canon<3<3<3″ which leads to people thinking they only really care about the couples, and it does not only alienate people from watching it, but potentially takes away credibility as a serious LGBTQ+ positive show, since even though the content of the show is great, how the fandom behaves a lot of the times has a huge impact on the reputation of the show. 

The one certain thing that Crunchyroll’s 2016 Anime Awards showed us is the discrimination that female anime viewers and/or fangirls have to face.

Because most of the salt comments I’ve seen regarding the results were things that followed the logic of: fangirls can’t think critically, hence fangirls are stupid, hence stupid people shouldn’t get to vote.

Idk about you guys, but that’s the impression I got from reading a number of comments - a simple statement claiming that “fangirls’ votes shouldn’t count”.

Maybe I’m the only one, but I get the feeling that most of those people are saying that “women are dumb so women can’t vote; men are smart, men can analyze anime so only men should get to vote and decide what deserves to win”.

That’s an oversimplification of course and I really hope I’m wrong, but listening to the justifications of such people, I’m not entirely convinced.

What they usually say is that fangirls are biased, that all they care about is their gay ship and their gay anime and they want it to win not because it deserves to win, but just because they like it.

Which is a fair point except that male anime fans do the same thing?

It’s not a “fangirl” or a “fujoshi” thing, it’s normal for most fans of something to be biased towards it or against something else. There is nothing inherently wrong with it and it’s natural to want something that you love to succeed. Most anime fans do this, yet only fangirls get targeted?

And let’s highlight another thing: the reason they get attacked. Because they liked the gay ship. How is that a bad thing? Not to mention that it’s incredibly generalizing, as I’ve seen many men also really enjoy Victuuri.

And that’s another thing - the assumption that women (or fans in general) enjoy only the gay ship in the entire anime. How accurate is that?

Looking at those 24k+ notes and according to the responses to that post? Not very accurate at all. (you can browse the reblogs/comments here)

And see, I don’t doubt that Yuri on Ice got as popular as it did because of the canon gay ship. That was certainly the reason why many people initially got curious and started watching it. But I am also sure that 90% of those people found at least one or two more things to love about the anime (be it character development or the OST or what have you) and finished the show, having enjoyed more than just the ship (and still, enjoying the ship is not a bad thing).

And so many people ended up loving or simply liking YOI, and therefore voting for it in the awards, causing it to win all the categories in which it was nominated.

But now, somehow people are attacking the fact that many women loved Yuri on Ice?

As though it’s a bad thing that an anime aimed at women is popular? As though an anime aimed at women cannot be a good anime? As though it doesn’t deserve praise or appreciation (or, at the very least, respect) because it is liked by women?

I’m sure some of it goes back to anime elitism that still plagues the community. There seems to exist an opinion that “real” anime fans do not enjoy Yuri on Ice for whatever reason, but I’m not going to get into this because elitists are a longer topic in and of themselves.

But some of it comes from this belief that the only anime that can be good is anime aimed at or made for men or boys specifically. It goes deeper actually and relates to the feeling I mentioned at the beginning of the post - the unrealistic assumption that women are thoughtless creatures who can only drool over gay couples and hot guys and are incapable of understanding anime on any deeper level.

Which is just incredibly condescending? That’s definitely the word I’d use to describe how many of those comments sound - condescending, patronizing, speaking as though females watching anime are dumb and should not be listened to or respected.

And yes, I’m sure that many fangirls are biased and vote simply because they like YOI and want it to win but the exact same thing can be said about male anime fans (in regards to any other anime) because guess what: gender doesn’t affect bias.

And here you could say that “guys can separate their love for an anime and choose objectively the anime that deserves to win”. I’m sure some guys can, and some guys can’t. Again, how is this related to gender at all? I’ve personally noticed many girls stating outright that they won’t vote for YOI in the best animation category because as much as they love the anime, they think that another show should win there. Shocking that girls can do the same things as guys, right?

At the end of the day, the Anime Awards were a popularity contest and surprisingly, a popular anime won (huge surprise there, really).

But the backlash that the results got is a good opportunity to consider how the anime community treats female fans and/or fangirls as a whole, and how it talks about anime popular with women.

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anime girl: *breathes*

her tiddies: 

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to all y'all boys who love boys: i hope u get to smooch a boy soon

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✨you’re all beautiful, ily ✨

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it’s kinda funny to me that ppl complain that the yoi fandom is just seen as “dumb women who don’t care abt anything else than two hot guys together” but... what do you expect when literally 95% of ANYTHING yoi related is ppl talking abt victuuri and being like “my OTP oMG<3″ so ofc it’s gonna be seen like that? if literally all you do is talk abt the couple???