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#I just spit out my mulled wine#the witcher 4#the witcher iv#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#witcher ciri#ciri
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It just shows how little these 'gamerbros' actually know of the Witcher lore and books. It has never been stated that a female can't pass the Trial of the Grasses; it just hasn't been recorded that one has successfully ever done so.
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Like father like daughter
#her father’s daughter indeed😌#ciri is attracted to women pass it on#the witcher#the witcher 4#the witcher iv#witcher 4#the witcher 3: wild hunt#witcher ciri#the witcher 3#ciri#cirilla of cintra#geralt of rivia
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oh, you don't think ciri should be the protagonist in the witcher 4?
well, i've got news for you.
she's ALWAYS been the protagonist.
#THIS!#CLOCK THEM!#Ciri is the people’s princess#the witcher 4#witcher 4#the witcher iv#ciri#cirilla of cintra#the witcher#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#witcher ciri#geralt of rivia
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CDPR does refer to Ciri as „a Witcher“ - she underwent training in Kaer Morhen and fought (and killed) monsters way before the point in time the trailer shows us. Obviously tho SOMETHING happened - the eyes, the potion..👀 in an interview with IGN CDPRs lore masters tried to dodge the question of course

Adam Badowski, Head of Studio @ CDPR, did address this topic tho: he neither confirms nor denies that some kind of mutation happened - but tells us that we will need to wait for an answer until the game releases or CDPR decides to feed us some crumbs.

Sebastian Kalemba, the Game Director, confirmed that the medallion ciri wears signifies the School of the Lynx.

Which does make sense - lore-wise - since the School of the Wolf went officially extinct after the separation of its last notable members (Geralt retired, Eskel has disappeared and Lambert was the one to contribute to the founding of the School of Lynx).
Hope this helps!
guys what are we thinking is the lore behind that potion ciri downed in the trailer for tw4?? because she can't have actual witcher potions but clearly that seemed to give her some sort of powerup
EDIT: hold on did she have cat eyes in the trailer?? is she a witcher?? like, went-through-the-trial-of-the-grasses witcher?? the potion didn't black out her eyes but rather made them glow, although the tendrils/toxicity was there.
her medallion also looked different to geralt's, no? is she a witcher but not a wolf witcher, and her potions are different? or is the difference in potion effect due to her being a woman or her also having magic? CD PROJEKT RED ANSWER ME
#the witcher 4#witcher 4#witcher ciri#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#ciri#cirilla of cintra#the witcher#school of the wolf#school of the lynx#CDPR I am gnawing at the bars of my enclosure pls give me the lore#the witcher iv
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'Tis tradition. Chosen, she is, by the Gods-
—No! You chose her.
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Ouch! My immersion! 🍼👶
#as i said#make them play#transmasc!ciri#the witcher 4#witcher 4#witcher ciri#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#the witcher#ciri#cirilla of cintra#geralt of rivia
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No need for CDPR to do that - Sapkowski already did it in the source material
if male gamers cannot relate to ciri cause she’s a female protagonist they should fix that by making ciri attracted to woman and sleep with them
#the witcher 4#the witcher#witcher 4#witcher ciri#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#cirilla of cintra#geralt of rivia#ciri#Ciri is attracted to women pass it on
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Ciri's Trilogy
Ever since The Witcher 3 was published, concurrently with which I first read A. Sapkowski’s works, I have wanted a trilogy of games about Ciri. Any fanfiction would do, including CDPR’s one. Fanfiction, because I believe Sapkowski wanted to leave Ciri’s future open to the imagination of everyone. It’s part of her charm—she gives hope that anything at all can happen. Hence, in all honesty, I just wanted to continue imagining her story: beyond the end of Lady of the Lake, beyond the end of The Witcher 3. I want to read more about Ciri. Period. Consequently, I am now elated, but also terrified.
I don’t take issue with Ciri, the witcher, I take issue with Ciri having gone through the Trial of the Grasses. I hope CD Projekt Red will change their minds about this, or at very least makes it work differently on Ciri—the Child of Destiny—than on other witchers. For starters because, as Geralt notes in Sword of Destiny, the witchers believe the Child of Destiny would not need the Trials. Ciri is special. She is a mutant carrying the blood of elves, mutated in conjunction with the human genome. Elder Blood, witcher-trained, magic-capable, princess, heir of an Emperor & descendant of another such beyond the stars, prophesised mother to another even more powerful mutant saviour, if not a saviour of elves herself. She is extraordinary; she does what witchers do despite of it all, despite not getting or needing the mutations.
’What can you know about saving the world, silly? You’re but a witcher.’
But now she is just… also one?
The sceptic in me says the only reason they went for Trials for Ciri was to keep it close to how the gameplay holds up. To have a "witcher-eyed", female protagonist upholding their brand. So it could be about potions and signs additionally to what Ciri would have had by default → oils + magic + Elder Blood. I would like for them to give us witcher ciri, but book-Ciri - a witcher girl setting off after monsters while remaining herself, with her own struggles and unique perspective on the universe. This here feels more like a PR move, and I don’t like it in the grand scheme of things; even while seeing a rough and capable Ciri tickles my heart in a special way. There were other ways to gamify her abilities; they are giving her magic use anyway, after all. It feels a little cheap. In fact, I can see how Elder Blood—Ciri’s uniqueness—is precisely how CDPR can handwave away the Trials, but isn’t the “cosmetic” aspect of it exactly the point? It makes the decision hollow, a ploy, but if you were to give this decision depth then you would run the risk of overstacking your protagonist and forgoing the spirit in which her character was conceived and relates to witchers and the world.[^1]
Moving on. This was the only part that I did not like and, as ever, there are ways of writing yourself out of this. (I dearly hope they have writers who love book Ciri.)
A few years have passed since the end of The Witcher 3 when The Witcher 4 begins. Witcher Ciri wants to be the hero. She has always wanted to do the right thing; she is always picking sides. She is young, she is idealistic, and she is furious. It’s what seems to unite the Ciri in The Witcher 4 with her at the end of The Witcher 3.
"She's almost obsessed with the way she lives. There are some moments where you have to go with your heart instead of always going with the calculated calls. And this is what I love in Ciri. She's less calculating, following her heart, her passion, her gut feel.” - Source
In both the published and draft endings to The Witcher 3, Ciri chooses potentially fatal, self-sacrificial “rituals” for the greater good. She chooses; you, the player, cannot do anything about it. (In the drafts you could, but it turned out to be a bad decision.) In the trailer though, it seems like Ciri is almost running away from herself, or something else, by the way she dives into this life. This intrigues and has storytelling potential - getting what you have always wanted is one of the most dangerous things in the world.
The world and people keep disappointing her, however, and, as the monster used in the trailer not very covertly insinuates: “fate cannot be changed”, "you weren't supposed to come back.” In this sense it almost feels like The Witcher 3 should have been Ciri’s story from the very beginning, because they are revisiting important beats from it and, after only a few years, are likely to handle loose threads. Ciri’s struggle is with having been born to exceptionality, to a destiny larger than life, yet desperately trying to make it smaller for the sake of her soul.
The insinuation made about Ciri’s life through Mioni—the peasant girl offered in sacrifice to a local “God” for the greater good of the community—is not subtle. This is Ciri fighting off the echo of her own story, trying to change such fates in principle. For Mioni, if not for herself. Saving her from being ritually sacrificed—as in prophecies. The monster she faces, by the way, preys on trauma. No subtlety here, whatsoever.
“At first glance, it seems that it is just the flower that is floating on top of the water,” says Kalemba of a cleansing sequence in a bathtub. “But the fun fact is that this is a very Slavic kind of flower. This is a special flower that people in the medieval era were using in special moments to defeat evil. It is very symbolic. Every single frame here is very meaningful.” - Source
But the world and people keep disappointing; Ciri's good deed goes unrewarded, and Mioni dies anyway. Because in principle the Mechanism is set up in a certain way and it is running and it is not easy to grind it to a halt without casualties. How much then is Ciri ready to sacrifice if she is wont to pick a side and fight no matter what? Such questions, I intuit, may become relevant later in her trilogy, but the seeds are sown. Because frankly, in the trailer, Ciri comes off as in The Tower of the Swallow: she has figured out philosophy. It’s a little naive and lacking in experience, seeing the world narrowly, focusing on her truth. It’s very youthful. It’s also—curiously enough—backtracking from the end of The Witcher 3.
What happened in-between The Witcher 3 and The Witcher 4, and, overall, the books and the games? I predict that in Ciri's first solo they may be doing a parallel in the spirit of Lady of the Lake’s ending - Ciri running away from herself/past/failure while attempting to build a new life. It's relatively safe, it's solid. Additionally, in CDPR's original concept for The Witcher 3's "witcher ending," Ciri was meant to experience a profound disillusionment with the witcher's path. After facing the harsh realities of the profession, she would abandon it entirely, choosing instead to traverse the universe in search of ways to atone for running from her destiny—a destiny that demanded she use her extraordinary powers for the greater good of many beings across different realms. It’s possible a double-bottom is hiding in plain sight.
I hope they will explore a truly morally ambiguous Ciri, letting her be messy and problematic rather than simply heroic. I hope they address her past experiences with nuance, not shying away from the ugliness. I hope they let her get drunk in her obsession with the witcher life for a while, break hearts, slowly begin stitching her own back together perhaps. I hope they navigate into the heart of her magic, touch the painful humanity within without forgetting that she has an origin story already, and dare to explore her as Her.
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[^1]: I am also sure they go through with the plot where facing the White Frost has locked or seemingly robbed her of her Elder Blood abilities, for better or worse. And since this is going to be a trilogy I will further bet she will get those abilities back as the stakes for her climb higher and higher toward the end game. The other pathway would be that she starts out as having it all, so to speak, and ends up with nothing at all (but we did not see her blink here, I think, so I doubt this); finally "normal." At whatever cost. Narratively in a computer game, for a character who is the Grail, THE person who could do it all, this sort of shuffling makes sense. You can keep the gameplay fresh.
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Funny thing is, they can’t even decide WHAT they want sksksks (i hate it here)

Imagine thinking that fuckin' Tati Gabrielle is ugly.
Couldn't be me, she's a goddess thank u very much. Not my fault some men never saw a woman in real life.
And, for fuck's sake, HOW can they look at Ciri and say that she's ugly too.
They really hate women, geez.
#the witcher 4#witcher 4#witcher ciri#the witcher#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#ciri#cirilla of cintra#geralt of rivia
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Ciri: "There are no gods here, there's only monsters"
Me:
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My Witcher fixation coming back from the dead after The Witcher 4 trailer dropped
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This line goes SO FUCKING HARD I’m so excited 😭
➜ The Witcher IV - Cinematic Reveal Trailer
#she’s right btw#as usual#the witcher 4#tw4#witcher 4#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#the witcher#cirilla of cintra#ciri#witcher ciri#geralt of rivia
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Someone on Tw*tter wrote the trailer was „way too depressing“ - my dude have you ever interacted with the lore of this franchise AT ALL???!!!??
#the witcher 4#witcher 4#the witcher#the witcher 3#the witcher 3: wild hunt#geralt of rivia#ciri#witcher ciri#cirilla of cintra
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