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KOKOBOT - The Airbnb-Owned Tech Startup - Data Mining Tumblr Users' Mental Health Crises for "Content"
I got this message from a bot, and honestly? If I was a bit younger and not such a jaded bitch with a career in tech, I might have given it an honest try. I spent plenty of time in a tough situation without access to any mental health resources as a teen, and would have been sucked right in.
Chatting right from your phone, and being connected with people who can help you? Sounds nice. Especially if you believe the testimonials they spam you with (tw suicide / self harm mention in below images)
But I was getting a weird feeling, so I went to read the legalese.
I couldn't even get through the fine-print it asked me to read and agree to, without it spamming the hell out of me. Almost like they expect people to just hit Yes? But I'm glad I stopped to read, because:
What you say on there won't be confidential. (And for context, I tried it out and the things people were looking for help with? I didn't even feel comfortable sharing here as examples, it was all so deeply personal and painful)
Also, what you say on there? Is now...
Koko's intellectual property - giving them the right to use it in any way they see fit, including
Publicly performing or displaying your "content" (also known as your mental health crisis) in any media format and in any media channel without limitation
Do this indefinitely after you end your account with them
Sell / share this "content" with other businesses
Any harm you come to using Koko? That's on you.
And Koko won't take responsibility for anything someone says to you on there (which is bleak when people are using it to spread Christianity to people in crisis)
I was curious about their business model. They're a venture-capitol based tech startup, owned by Airbnb, the famous mental health professionals with a focus on ethical business practices./s They're also begging for donations despite having already been given 2.5 million dollars in research funding. (If you want a deep dive on why people throw crazy money at tech startups, see my other post here)
They also use the data they gather from users to conduct research and publish papers. I didn't find them too interesting - other than as a good case study of "People tend to find what they are financially incentivized to find". Predictably, Koko found that Kokobot was beneficial to its users.
So yeah, being a dumbass with too much curiosity, I decided to use the Airbnb-owned Data-Mining Mental Health Chatline anyway. And if you thought it was dangerous sounding from the disclaimers? Somehow it got worse.
(trigger warning / discussions of child abuse / sexual abuse / suicide / violence below the cut - please don't read if you're not in a good place to hear about negligence around pretty horrific topics.)
I first messed around with the available options, but then I asked it about something obviously concerning, saying I had a gun and was going to shoot myself. It responded... Poorly. Imagine the vibes of trying to cancel Comcast, when you're suicidal.
Anyway, I tried again to ask for help about something else that would be concerning enough for any responsible company to flag. School was one of their main options, which seems irresponsible - do you really think a child in crisis would read that contract?
I told it about a teacher at school trying to "be my boyfriend", and it immediately suggested I help someone else while I wait for help. I was honestly concerned that it wasn't flagged before connecting. Especially when I realized it was connecting me to children.
I first got someone who seemed to be a child in an abusive home. (Censored for their privacy.) I declined to talk to them because despite being an adult and in an OK mental place - I knew I'm not equipped to counsel a kid through that. If my act of being another kid in crisis was real? Holy shit.
Remember- if my BS was true, that kid would be being "helped" by an actively suicidal kid who's also being groomed by a teacher. Their pipeline for "helpers" is the same group of people looking for help.
I skipped a number of messages, and they mostly seemed to be written by children and young adults with nowhere else to turn. Plus one scary one from an adult whose "problem" was worrying that they'd been inappropriate with a female student, asking her to pull her skirt down "a little" in front of the class. Koko paired this person with someone reporting that they were a child being groomed by a teacher. Extremely dangerous, and if this was an episode of Black Mirror? I'd say it was a little too on the nose to be believable.
I also didn't get the option to get help without being asked... Er... Harassed... to help others. If I declined, I'd get the next request for help, and the next. If I ignored it, I got spammed by the "We lost you there!" messages, asking if I'd like to pick up where I left off, seeing others' often triggering messages while waiting for help, including seriously homophobic shit. I was going into this as an experiment, starting from a good mental place, and being an adult with coping skills from an actual therapist, and I still felt triggered by a lot of what I read. I can't imagine the experience someone actually in crisis would be having.
My message was starting to feel mild in comparison to what some people were sharing - but despite that I was feeling very uneasy about my message being shown to children. There didn't seem to be a way to take it back either.
Then I got a reply about my issue. It was very kind and well meaning, but VERY horrifying. Because it seemed to be written by a child, or someone too young to understand that "Do have feelings for the teacher who's grooming you? If you don't, you should go talk to him." Is probably THE most dangerous advice possible.
Not judging the author - I get the impression they're probably a child seeking help themselves and honestly feel horribly guilty my BS got sent to a young person and they wanted to reply. Because WTF. No kid should be in that position to answer my fucked up question or any of the others like it.
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Anyway, what can you do if this concerns you, or you've had a difficult experience on Koko, with no support from them or Tumblr?
Get on their LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/kokocares/) and comment on their posts! You may also want to tag the company's co-founders in your comments - their accounts are listed on the company page.
There's no way to reach support through chat, and commenting on a company's LinkedIn posts / tagging the people responsible is the best way to get a quick response to a sensitive issue - as their investors and research funders follow those posts, and companies take it seriously if safety issues are brought up in front of the people giving them millions of dollars.
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This future, where art is generated by robots while I have to scrape a living in an underpaid job I hate and am overworked at, was not the future I was promised
Alarm bells being rung by Maureen Johnson on AI and the Big Publishers
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reblog if you think sign language should be taught as a language in schools.
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#my cousin was mostly deaf#she was also severly mentally handicapped#the few words she knew were in asl#i dont even remember which words those were except youre a pretty girl#she was capable of learning some sign#but no one around her#including me#knew enough to teach her#i wanted so badly to learn#i joined an asl club in middle school#but 30 minutes during our lunch a couple times a week was not nearly enough#reblog if#sign language#school#yes good
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Has your character ever made you cry?
#ooooooof#yep#laeldorl definitely has#i did a scene with him where he had a dementia episode#it was hard#i cried because he's such a strong character#physically and emotionally#and to just see him deteriorate....#yeah#it was rough#oc#oc asks#oc ask#oc questions#original character#original character questions#original character ask
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Changing up the names of the royalty cards in the suits to better match Underdark aesthetics.
#page of pentacles#priest of pentacles#underdark#underdark tarot#tarotonline#tarotart#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotcommunity#tarot card#tarot art#tarot artist#queer artist#trans artist#small artist#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on instagram#artists on tiktok#artists on deviantart#digital aritst#digital drawing#digital illustration#digital art
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When your character is made to feel "weird", how do they respond?
#depends#but laeldorl usually handles it with absolute grace and dignity#so does halva#but he hasn't been put in that position yet#halva's just weird#akorolim gets super embarassed#i blame his birth mom for that
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In the days where we could edit previous posts for emphasis, I'd just go back and bold this section, but instead I'll quote it with my own bold text:
"we call it a genocidal agenda NOW because by the time it actually becomes a genocide it'll be TOO FUCKING LATE"
if a trans woman complains about the ongoing campaign of trans genocide in the united states and the uk and your response is “well it’s not TECHNICALLY genocide yet so you really shouldn’t use that word because it makes us look bad” i think you should perhaps actually just shut the fuck up and read literally any news coverage containing the words “trans” and “desantis,” just for starters
like wow so they’re not literally dragging us to camps??? it’s not literally a nazi germany style holocaust so you can’t call it genocide????? buddy do you think the fascists are BLUFFING?????????? grow the fuck up you child, because if you’re even a little bit not-cishetwhite they’re gonna use the “threat” us trans people represent as a pretext to come after you.
we call it a genocidal agenda NOW because that is THEIR STATED INTENTION. that is the ONLY logical outcome of the policies they’re proposing and the words they say and the hate they foment. we call it a genocidal agenda NOW because by the time it actually becomes a genocide it’ll be TOO FUCKING LATE
#trans genocide#i hate living in the us because of this#this#speaking as a transman myself#i'm fucking scared#i live in a safe spot#and i hate that i feel the need to add#for now
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#just mushrooms#i know#bleh#it feels so bland compared to the other cards#i tried to keep some of the symbolism though#sort of#i guess#tarotonline#tarotart#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotcommunity#tarot artist#tarot art#tarot card#tarot community#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on deviantart#artists on tiktok#artists on instagram#small artist#queer artist#trans artist#digital artist#digital drawing#digital illustration#digital art
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some prompts I came up with and will definitely be doing with my current fandom obsessions..🙃
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#nine of pentacles#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotonline#tarotart#tarotcommunity#tarotblr#divination#tarot artist#tarot art#tarot card#tarotcollector#tarot community#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on deviantart#artists on tiktok#small artist#queer artist#trans artist#digital art#frog#spider#mushrooms#nine of mushrooms#fungus
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Is your OC left-handed, right-handed, or ambidextrous?
#laeldorl is left-handed#though he can use his right hand pretty well#he was forced to learn how to fight with both hands#halva is a leftie too#but he can't use his right hand like his dad can
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It's interesting trying to keep the same sort of meanings and symbolism while using no people. I think that's how I'm gonna work it, but it'll be challenging, that's for sure
#tarot#tarotonline#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotart#tarotcommunity#tarotdaily#tarot artist#tarot art#tarot card#tarot of the day#tarot community#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on deviantart#artists on tiktok#small artist#queer artist#trans artist
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#tarotonline#tarotart#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotcommunity#tarotdaily#tarottribe#tarotblr#divination#tarot art#tarot artist#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on deviantart#artists on tiktok#small artist#queer artist#trans artist#digital art#digital aritst#digital illustration#digital drawing
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I must draw this now....
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#six of pentacles#six of mushrooms#underdark tarot#underdark#tarot#tarotart#tarot art#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotonline#tarotcommunity#tarot community#divination#taroteverydamnday#tarot readers of tumblr#tarot artist#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on deviantart#artists on tiktok#small artist#queer artist#trans artist#digital aritst#digital illustration#digital drawing#digital art
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Dunno why I went so intense with the colour of the mushrooms this time, but I'm digging it.
#five of pentacles#five of mushrooms#tarotonline#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotart#tarot art#tarotcommunity#tarot community#underdark tarot#underdark#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on instagram#artists on tiktok#artists on deviantart#small artist#queer artist#trans artist#digital art#digital artist#digital drawing#digital illustration#digital painting
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My most complicated card so far. I think I like using spiders in place of people, but we'll see once I get to the major arcana
#tarotonline#tarot deck#tarot cards#tarotart#tarotcommunity#divination#daily tarot#underdark#underdark tarot#defiance comics#artists on tumblr#artists on deviantart#artists on tiktok#artists on instagram#small artist#queer artist#trans artist#digital art#digital artist#digital drawing#digital illustration
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