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Ah, I see "Best way to win an argument is dismiss everything your opponent has to say and call it nonsense" First, you're the only one misinterpreting canon here - Tatooine _was_ a part of the Republic, please go watch Phantom Menace where Padme is surprised slavery exists and asks "why doesn't Republic do something about it", and Shmi basically says "they don't care" Also Darth Bane was a legal slave back in Old Republic era, and The Clone Wars have plenty to say on the topic of slavery aside from clones Especially about jedi not wanting to do something with freeing the slaves, because it would mess up Republic's relationship with the hutts If that's not "endorsing" for you - I don't know what is, you do know that just because there's a law prohibiting it, it doesn't mean it's not happening or being secretly supported? Second, I have literally no idea what your comment about Russia even means - I gave you a real world example of how this way of wealth and goods distribution can exist without fascism and still be shitty, and actually lead to fascism prospering, but you just dismiss it as "irrelevant" You seem to be the only one clearly not having anything to add to conversation, just wanting to spill vitriol for no reason with no point behind it, because I honestly don't even know what you're trying to argue here That extreme centralization doesn't lead to formation of totalitaristic regimes? Well, it does, history proves that million times over, whatever flawed Star Wars canon says To deny that is to deny history And just because Republic existed for a long time, doesn't mean it won't eventually collapse due to the exact reason it collapsed in the movies - lose of control in outer systems and need to regain this control via exertion of power, which always leads to some form of totalitarian regime forming So even your point of "well, it existed long time without becoming a fascist regime" is negated by the canon itself, since, um, yeah, it kinda became a fascist regime, I hate to break it to you, I do, but that happened in canon you are citing as the source for why it wasn't going to happen But, yeah, good day to you too, I guess
star wars is about coruscant
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And Russia existed for hundreds of years, pooling all the resources of a massive country into one major city for pretty much it's entire existence, sometimes just switching up which city was the favorite It also did not need fascism to do so, it actually even actively fought against fascism at some point If your only conclusion out of this post is "yeah, but we don't need nazis for that to work" - yep, you got it, this governing system can suck in many ways even without them Because oppression and shitty government structures aren't exclusively tied to fascism, it's just that centralized governments are doomed to become empires with one massive weak spot, a parasite feeding off its surrounding territories, and they lean towards fascism to not let the victims throw it off and restructure Coruscant can survive off the backs of the slaves no matter what the system is called, this you got right Just a reminder: Republic endorsed slavery, in more ways than one From direct owning of people as property to aforementioned "contracted workers" who lived in company-managed villages, working to pay off generational debt in the mines It wasn't fascist, that's very true, it was democracy, therefore immediately perfect with no flaws whatsoever, right? But did it matter to people who died in slavery while serving the Republic, and not the Empire? Did it even matter to the majority of population that lived below the poverty line - whether it's fascism they're starving under or not? But at least Coruscant can survive, because that's the only important thing Not the human lives that are being throw away to feed its hungry maw, which is exactly what OP is talking about Not to even mention that timeline in Star Wars makes no sense, because sometimes things take thousands of years to be shifted around ever so slightly, and sometimes a new regime collapses in 25 years because otherwise the story would have too many gaps between its parts and major parts of character development would be simply missing together with whole characters When you strip the numbers away, Republic follows the same pipeline as any other "too big for it's good" governing system, and this pipeline can be clearly observed throughout the history in different countries and eras Just because Star Wars numbers are made up entirely by the whim of its creators just to spice up the cosmic setting and artificially make its history and world seem more rich, doesn't mean the real world pattern this story follows isn't there We live through it right now, welcome to the show
star wars is about coruscant
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Ah, yes, ma fav'rite - "he could've talked to Obi-Wan!"
Because every time he talked to Obi-Wan before it boded so well for him, and he totally didn't then run to his wife to complain how his Master just "doesn't get it"
I feel like people just don't realise WHY Anakin stopped trying to talk him, and it's because Obi-Wan just wasn't helpful Now, I don't claim that Obi-Wan wasn't trying to help Anakin, on the contrary - he tried _so hard_
Obi-Wan tried his best, he gave the kid his best shot at jedi parenting But sometimes your best just isn't right or good enough You know, you can try your best at painting fine china with a pickaxe, and still break every single vase
Obi-Wan's first words about Anakin were "Are we picking up more lesser lifeforms?" Obi-Wan was grieving and more than likely passing that grief over on the boy Qui-Gon was obsesed by in the last days of his life Obi-Wan was a jedi to the core, so deeply set in the dogmatic beliefs of the Order, that he would rather think Qui-Gon needs to shut his mouth and nod to have a better standing in the Order, than consider that Yoda might have flawed and outdated ideas on how things are ought to be Obi-Wan is a very dependent man who didn't learn to be his own person even at 57, who was 25 and still needed his Master like air, who, instead of trying to guide Luke with all the knowledge he had on Vader, pointed at Yoda and said "he's in charge here, listen to everything this deranged frog says" Obi-Wan is a deeply flawed man, who's good intentions are mostly guided by the will of others He would not understand Anakin Skywalker, he never would have a chance to understand someone so independent He would never know how to talk to Anakin Skywalker in the way Anakin Skywalker would understand Have you ever noticed that both Anakin and Vader have a tendency to plainly state their beliefs? It seems like a non-sequitur, but just bear with me Every time Anakin is confronted by Palpatine, fellow jedi or Padme on his beliefs, and Vader follows the same pattern when Luke tries to challenge his beliefs of the sith He doesn't argue from the heart, from the point of his belief - he plainly states "this is how things are, and this is how it is" Anakin repeats them, because that's what his Master says, when Anakin is troubled or needs guidance on "how to be a good jedi 101" Because every time Anakin tries to understand the way jedi operate and supposed to be, Obi-Wan says something akin to "do good and don't do not good, and read the bible every day" That's all the answers he has, that's what Obi-Wan is, that's why the Council loves him so much Obi-Wan is a perfect jedi, the way the Council sees a perfect jedi - obedient, humble, modest, quiet He is a decent human being too, he genuinely does try to do what's best and to help people, to do right things, even though his perception of what's right is warped at points But he's not a good teacher He's not ready to explain what and why and how, he's not ready to accept challenges to his beliefs and authority, he simply lacks authority and self-sufficiency to be a good support And that's why he's a really bad father The problem isn't that Anakin didn't talk to Obi-Wan, it's that he tried time and time again, and was never heard He was never understood or comforted in a meaningful to him way His worries were never treated seriously, his questions were painted as silly, and his questions on the decisions of the Council - downright blasphemous That's why he talked to Palpatine instead Because Palpatine is a shitty person, a vile one But he's a good father He's there to guide, to explain, to show, to elaborate at great length with many a example He's here to debate and challenge you back, but not in a way that feels demeaning Palpatine understood, and Palpatine give Anakin what he needed - the feeling of being seen, of being known There is no universe where Anakin talking to Obi-Wan Kenobi right before Order 66 is somehow solving anything Obi-Wan had a chance to talk to him on Mustafar, he had a chance to immediately turn Anakin back to the light It took years and involvement of multiple people to turn Anakin to the dark side It took one person and one day to turn him back He could be saved before Vader ever got a hold in Anakin's mind Anakin believed Obi-Wan being there would've saved him Obi-Wan chose to listen to Yoda instead So No Anakin couldn't talk to Obi-Wan His only option for a heart to heart was only the worst guy in the galaxy It's really that simple
What is the nonsense that Anakin fell to the darkside because of his pride/arrogance? I’m not saying he didn’t have these character flaws, I’m saying that we can clearly see his fall to the darkside is because he had nobody to talk to, everyone treated him like a ticking time bomb, nobody trusted him and he was terrified to lose the love of his life, the ONLY PERSON who treated him like a human being and not some dangerous “chosen one”
What I freaking hate is the posts where people say “he could have talked to Obi Wan” or “all of it could have been prevented if he’d just talked to Obi Wan!”
I swear fandom treats Obi Wan Kenobi as if he was some kind of omnipotent genie who could just magically solve all the problems of the world at the snap of a finger.
Its also totally wrong. “Talking” to Obi Wan would not have solved anything. Jedi were forbidden from marrying, and Obi Wan would never have supported Anakin’s marriage. He’d have told him to either divorce Padme or leave the Order (he was planning to in Lucas canon before Disney ruined everything).
He could not do anything about Anakin’s visions - and let’s face it, last time Anakin went to him with visions about his mom he hold the kid to basically ignore them and they would go away: and we all know how that ended up.
Nor could he stop Palpatine grooming him. “Talking to Obi Wan” would have done nothing: and let’s face it, would you want to confide in the dude who subjected you to what amounted to pyschological torture and years of emotional abuse?
#anakin skywalker#star wars#anakin is my poor undiagnosed meow meow and i can't do anything but love him#This was way longer and more elaborate but I hit the limit#i'm rambling again#I had thoughts on Padme too why she wasn't an option#But it's really simple - she's just a woman and Anakin is an eldritch force-god dealing with things she can't even comprehend#Give the poor senator lady a break#I also dislike Obi-Wan#A lot#So my view of his capabilities might be imperfect#It's not even because of Anakin#I have more personal reasons#Specifically him being completely incapable of being an independent person for 5 seconds#Qui had too much confidence in him because love is a blinding thing
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anyway, back to my regularly scheduled niche star wars posting. this is entirely conjecture. i am about to go offroading in the theoretical possibilities of the canon in a bronco. do not attempt to make contact with me by anything other than radio.
in the jedi quest novels - the one where baby anakin gets enslaved round two to a guy named krayn, because when a character is supposed to be darth vader (someday later) you can really load up on the possibilities afforded to you with industrial application of childhood trauma - there’s a line where anakin thinks that he doesn’t deserve to be happy if his mother is still enslaved. and aside from illuminating the internal mechanisms that really keep anakin from moving on, ever, i think there’s a possibility to explore anakin, his mother, and the idea that anakin didn’t just miss his mother, but leaving his mother in slavery was actual moral injury to him.
moral injury is the kind of personal violation someone feels when they, willingly or otherwise, violate their own moral code - you’ve probably at least experienced the shame of having done something wrong, but imagine that something wrong violated the principles that make up who you are. in TPM, as we’re introduced to anakin, we’re introduced to a kid who is almost ruthlessly giving - he fixes conditioning units for old ladies and chases banthas out of dunes so they don’t die, he puts himself in harm’s way to save jar jar and then does it again just so qui-gon and company can get the parts they need. he doesn’t race for his freedom in that podrace, doesn’t even know it’s on the line; he does it solely for his random new friends. he’s thoughtful, he cares a lot, and he had dreams about being a jedi and freeing the slaves - dreams are significant part of anakin’s story, and factor heavily in the next two movies, so we can assume that these dreams were really, really important to anakin as a kid. i would say that the destruction of slavery is key, even, to what he wants from the galaxy, and what he wants to do in that galaxy - but it’s also in this movie that he doesn’t free his mother, and won’t see her again for ten years.
if the destruction of slavery was closely held to anakin’s chest as an imperative moral value as a kid, we can combine that with the above line in the jedi quest novels, where anakin believes that he cannot deserve happiness if he’s free and his mother is not; and i would think it would be reasonable to imagine that anakin had actual, real, complicated moral injury over that. it violates his sense of self - he wants to help people, he wants to free the slaves, but he hasn’t done that for the person he loves the most in all of the galaxy. he is in a constant state of breaking his own moral compass, in the constant thrall of, “i can never forgive myself for living freely, when she doesn’t get the chance to.” and i think it’s fair to assume that anakin never goes to direct that anger to the place it’s richly deserved - slave owners, and slavery as an institution - because he is so busy blaming himself for not freeing the slaves, he entirely loses sight of why they’re there at all.
he forces himself to identify with the people he used to be owned by, in his guilt; in the AOTC novelization, when he sees watto again, in the span of a paragraph he goes from being angry that his mother was sold to justifying watto’s choice as that of a businessman, and it was anakin, solely, who was responsible for freeing his mother, and his failure alone. but recasting himself as the violent system that made him who he is in a lot of ways is an absolute shattering of his self-perception, his sense of identity and the principles that he held to strongly. in a way, he’s only able to violate his morals to the extent he does in AOTC because he’s already conceived himself as guilty of one of the worst crimes he can imagine; and that guilt, and simultaneously his capacity for truly heinous action, will only keep increasing.
#anakin is my poor undiagnosed meow meow and i can't do anything but love him#I will put this post in a microwave in my head and will rotate it around for hours now#I really need to get to those books#I've only gone through novellizations and Darth Plagueis#Can't wait to learn about more ways Anakin was broken before he even learned to be a person
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PSA: be a good friend and kick your friends to draw VaderLuke (like me) Because then they make such lovely things and world becomes a slightly better place (with more VaderLuke fanarts)
long time no see
may the Force be with u all, take babis🤲
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men holding their chain / dog tags in between their teeth as they fuck you in missionary ……….. grunting, teeth clenched, arms somewhat cradling your head as they go deeper and harder, your face full of pleasure just turning them on even more … much to think about
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Yup.
Like, honey, why are you even writing this then, what's the point of those mental gymnastics...
Either find a non-incest ship that kinda does the same thing, but without all the juicy parts (cough, DinLuke, cough), or just accept that you like it
Seeing "AU - they aren't related" in an incest fic is like... one of the worst feelings ever
#vaderluke#dinluke is for people who want vaderluke but are too afraid to face incest you can't change my mind#also way too many ppl are separating Vader from Anakin to close their eyes on incest parts and it's just sad to me#why do you rip the character apart just to not admit that you like an incest ship...#incest cw#obviously
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If characters people ship Luke with have told me anything about his overall preferences - his type is tall force sensitive men in full suits of armor, who possibly want to kill him, and also can be his father figure Vader is just too perfect of a fit

luke daddy issues skywalker
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oh my god, never deactivate.
aw, lmao Thanks, I'll try to stay as long as I can! Probably won't deactivate this account even if I leave, lol
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It really says a lot, considering that he didn't cry over seeing charred corpses of people who raised him for 19 years, Obi-Wan's death and all other fucked up shit happening to him all at once Not to mention that Luke is generally a low-emoting guy, who feels a lot, but rarely shows it in any strong obvious way (crying, bursting out in a laugh, yelling), he only sits sad, chuckles and sometimes raises his voice slightly because he's annoyed, he's overall such a mild guy His father is the only one who's able to provoke emotions this strong in him

#vaderluke#and that's only with the sad stuff#possibilities for Luke's whole emotional spectrum are endless#that's why I headcanon that Luke heartily laughs at full force only at his dad's stupid jokes#and why he's be able to experience any sort of attraction only towards the one person who makes him feel stuff
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The amount of people reblogging this one Luke sketch I made, while having "proship dni" somewhere on their page is upsetting and unsettling, and I have no idea what to do about that
Purity culture weird and scary to exist around ._.
#never expected it to blow up this much#and now I can't even be happy about my succes#because it has potential to attract all kinds of toxicity#sigh
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He will scare away any potential suitor then act falsely contrite.
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can i use your art as a profile pic?
You absolutely can!
Credit me if you feel so inclined, but I don't mind either way, as long as you like it
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Sorry kitten, Daddy has been reduced to a ghost of the man you loved by the vulgar demands of capitalism
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is this anything?
#some s/w fans need that reminder#i lose it every time i see a dmbfuck saying anakin and luke have nothing to do with each other#like DID YOU WATCH S/W????#<---- louder for the people in the back#star wars#luke skywalker
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pre-reveal shenanigans my beloved
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