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A little late to the party but just saw Joker 2 so here’s a drawing

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the joker... is meee

when you ask "who is this movie for-" me. it was for little weirdos like me who love killer clowns and dramatic musical numbers form morally reprehensible fictional characters

and the very messy sketch

(if youre on mobile you'll wanna click for better quality, these got really got crunched no matter how i sized it)

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🤯 Snow angels ❄️

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you know what they say, you can't spell 'carpe diem' without die

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HANDS

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If joker 2 has a million fans im one of them if joker 2 has zero fans i died etc etc

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Um, the Joker movie was incredible??? Better than the first one?? The best DC movie I've seen?? One of the best movies I've seen in theaters in general in awhile??

The music was phenomenal, Lady Gaga was gorgeous and perfect, Joaquin Phoenix was gorgeous and perfect, the plot line was smooth, the mental health portrayal was INCREDIBLE

Y'all trippin', I'd watch that movie over and over

EDIT: I'm so glad the tumblr world understands how amazing this movie is

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Joker 2 is the funniest movie ever conceptually

Joker 2 does many things. One of those things is tell the tragic story of a broken man failed by the system. The other thing it does is fuck over joker fans IN A REALLY FUNNY WAY. The movie itself is hard to watch, because of all of the horrible things happening to poor Arthur Fleck. People both in real life and in the film only ever care about him when he is connected to the joker. But Arthur fleck was never The Joker. He sort of created the joker in what was happening to him, but he himself was never the joker. The Joker with a capital J, does I think appear in this film, but only at the end. In the same way that Lee abandons Arthur when he says he isn't the joker, the audience also abandons Arthur as soon as they learn he is not the joker. The joker shows up at the very very end, stabbing Arthur and killing him. When this happened I laughed. I laughed really embarrassingly hard. This was never the joker. Arthur could never have been the joker. The Joker capital J is a cruel, selfish, horrible person who genuinely laughs when he sees people experiencing pain. Arthur has a physical medical condition that makes him wheeze in a laugh adjacent manner when he is really stressed, which for Arthur, is a LOT OF THE TIME. Joker Joker laughs because he thinks killing people is funny. Joker Joker's whole thing is also that we never learn his backstory. And guess what? WE DON'T EVER REALLY LEARN THE JOKER'S BACKSTORY. Folie A Deux means the second joke. The first movie is the set-up. The second movie IS THE PUNCHLINE. THE JOKE IS ON US. This is a horrible joke. It's not funny. It's horrible and cruel to make us so attached to a poor man who never ever gets help for what he needs. Nothing but bad things happen to this poor man. To laugh when he dies is the ultimate joke. The joke was on the audience. Ha Ha, you thought you were watching the Joker's backstory, but actually no you weren't.

What is the difference between a lie and a joke? To say "There's something on your shirt! AH-! No there isn't! I got you!". There's no punchline. You JUST told a lie and then laughed afterwards. You just did something cruel and then laughed afterwards. That's not funny.

THIS IS JOKER'S THING. HE DOES CRUEL THINGS AND THEN LAUGHS AFTERWARDS! THE JOKER STABBED ARTHUR, WHICH WAS CRUEL AND UNFUNNY, AND THEN LAUGHED AFTERWARDS. HE THEN CUT HIS SIGNATURE JOKER SCARS INTO HIS FACE. THIS IS A JOKER TYPE MOVIE.

THIS IS A HOWEVER MILLION DOLLAR BIT. IT'S ALL A HUGE JOKE!!!!! A LIE!!!!! I can't eat enough of this. Arthur fleck needs a big fucking hug. Joker needs to eat fat shit and die, die, die.

In the first movie, You can also see that Arthur Fleck meets little Bruce Wayne. Maybe that's why Batman can't stand to kill the joker. BRUCE IS TOO YOUNG WHEN ARTHUR DIES TO EVER LEARN THAT THE JOKER ISN'T ARTHUR FLECK.

Anyways that's the end of my conspiracy theories. Can't wait to see Joker 3.

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Harley saying “excuse me” so sweetly before violently slamming a metal trash bin into a shop front window—startling everyone in the nearby vicinity—and then casually walking off in her 4 inch heels with a stolen tv of Arthur’s face is literally the most Harley Quinn thing ever, and I adore her.

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Obviously armchair diagnosing a fictional character here but... Arthur is very nonchalant/impulsive about kissing (on the lips), and not just in his Joker persona. Movie 1 = he kisses that Murray hostess as Joker, movie 2 = kisses his lawyer both as Joker and as himself; kisses Ricky because he's told to and he doesn't see it as a big deal, and ofc Arthur and Lee kiss many times and, while I do believe he enjoys it with her, all his songs about Lee are not about physicality at all but about the emotional connection (🥺❤️). Anyway I think this must be a trauma response and that lady in the show cannot possibly be his first kiss...

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Ignore the critics, Joker 2 was fire

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unpopular opinion: i think joker folie a deux was beautiful. not as amazing as the first, but plot-wise, i loved it. the message of both films touches so many people struggling with mental illness (including me). This was NOT made for the general public but for fans who connected with arthur on a emotional level (i was one of those people). great film. critics don't know shit. this was a story about a man who tried to fit in with society, but society spat him back out. people wanted a joker story, but we got an arthur fleck origin story. A broken man not loved by anyone or anything. he was going to start a family but even the love of his life left him. Harley loved the joker, not arthur. The whole story is so sad. Most realistic joker ever.

thank you, Joaquin for being the beautiful man that you are.

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So there's this theory going around that Todd Phillips may have flipped the dynamic and made Harley the aggressor/manipulator in the relationship and Joker the down bad one instead. And before anybody gets their panties in a twist, I think we need to remember that this version of Joker is a Loser. Very much a Loser. He's not the aggressive, dominant type we're used to (in his dynamic with Harley). This is a sad, sad little beta male who has severe mommy issues, who has never felt the touch of a woman in his life, and who fully imagined having a girlfriend in the first movie. Do you really think he's gonna be aggressive towards the first woman to pay him any attention? And not only that but a woman who seemingly matches his crazy and perfectly understands him? Yeah, no. He's going to be head over heels, Madly in Love.

Now he can still snap and turn against her because you know, Joker, but I do think that for most of the movie he's going to be giggling and kicking his feet like a schoolgirl in love.

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I feel like a lot of people don't know how to consume a piece of art anymore. And I don't mean that in a way that there is only one way to correctly consume art. But it shocks me how many people aren't either able or willing to notice things between the lines and nuances anymore. And that not everything has to be overly stimulating and polished to be satisfying. It doesn't have to be about things being obvious and easy to process. Sometimes art is draining and hard to consume. Some art is supposed to hurt. Some art is not about comfort. That we in this fandom made something so comforting of Arthur is such a beautiful thing. He came from a piece of art that was supposed to hurt and be hard to swallow and yet he found his way to this place of sheer empathy back in 2019. And that was possible because people were capable of consuming this piece of art in a way that it deserved to be consumed. I don't understand why some people hate so much on the sequel. It gave us so much more about Arthur between the obvious lines. Of course this movie wasn't going to be a comfortable watch. It's horribly draining. But it gifted Arthur with a personal development and maturity that I think adds so well to what we have seen in the first movie and this makes it so neccessary to me, because he deserved this development so very much. I cherish that so so much. These small things. How we get to see him interact with people so much more nuanced than in the first movie. It's such a painful movie, but it is so good. I trusted Todd and Joaquin to do something good with this and they did it again. I haven't yet seen anywhere else how they handled the subject of childhood abuse and its aftermath like they did here. As a csa survivor I was so very touched by this sensitivity surrounding Arthur's past back in 2019. It's the main reason why this character became so dear to me. And don't get me started on how they truthfully portrayed the failure of the healthcare system and the system that's supposed to protect children and victims of csa. And they were able to keep all this sensitivity in the context of a person who committed murders. They kept this sensitivity throughout the entire two movies. Not once does one think this man is a monster. And they keep that up without shitting on the victims of his murders. Not once does he feel unsafe as a person/character. Within all this it is so safe to love him, because he is such a gentle man. One we miss so badly in this society. A man so pure in his soul, despite what he did or been through. And I think some people hate how you can't judge Arthur Fleck in black or white. There is so much more to this, but too many aren't willing to even try to step further into all these subjects the movies talk about. This is not a fucking fast food restaurant. You have to sit down and reflect and digest. I don't understand why some people let their minds fly by and not even truly look. I don't get it. That's why the arts are so endangered, because all this ignorance plays into the hands of conservatives, just saying. People doing exactly what they're supposed to do...

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Joker 2 was good, not as great as the first, but good and it tonally made sense. This movieverse for Joker was always a darker, more realistic, and gritty depiction of Gotham that felt more like real life New York.

Genuinely: what were people expecting in this sequel? A Marvel movie? For Arthur to burst out of jail and start wrecking havoc, commanding his army of goons and making funny jokes?

Arthur is not only mentally ill but low IQ, he doesn't have the intelligence for that, it doesn't line up with his character from the first movie. And no he and Joker were never two separate people. This is not a Fight Club scenario. He fell for what his lawyer was trying to use as his defense. Arthur is so susceptible to suggestion he made it his life's mission to make people laugh because his mother lied to him as a kid telling him that was his whole purpose--to make people smile. Arthur isn't the only one gullible considering how many people walked away from this movie honestly believing he had DID.

So many people saw "musical" and "Lady Gaga" and decided they already hated it I s2g people never just walk into movies with a blank slate mind anymore they go in wanting movies to send a message that just so happens to agree with them personally

Enjoy some cinema for the sake of cinema for fucks sake!!!