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Somethings Need to Change

I wasn't going to get my hands involved in this. I initially skilled through harkre's post yesterday and thought nothing of it. Until someone brought it to my attention because there was fighting in the comments. Now while I would like to slug it out in the replies. However...that gets messy. So instead I'm going to put everyone's replies into a reblog and credit them. Cause that's what you're supposed to do when there's drama on tumblr. Make it easier on people to read and know what the fuck is going on. Which will be below the cut.

@dutifullylamps: Summary: A bunch of things that hurt my feelings and I didn’t like so now I’m trying to cause other people to not like this person because I still have a middle school mentality and I’m bitter.

So for those who aren't aware, Harkre's whole post was about how he was signaled out and believed to be a godmodder. I've gone through similar things myself all because for whatever stupid reason people do not know how to communicate on WoW when it comes to rp. Despite it being a major unspoken rule in roleplay in general. Something that's followed on forums, on tumblr, and other mediums. Why it's not enforced on WoW is stupid.

Now when you bring it up, you're treated like shit who have never gotten out of that Mean Girl high school mentality like dutifullylamps has demonstrated. So here let me be helpful and show at least some guides to roleplay since the community seems to neglect that part. These will emphasize on communication.

I would like to point out that ironically one of the ways we learn how to communicate effectively is by pretending we're doing a role and we can talk out what we're going to do, which is different from rp. So why rpers can't communicate is kind of ironic when you think about it in adult type scenarios. Something I was skimming over trying to find the sites above.

Except people will try to say "but it ruins the story. It makes it seem too ooc." My brother in christ you do not work for Blizzard. Who the fuck cares? I don't want you to hit my character without my permission. Though to argue I feel bad for Harkre cause Residiuum events are always clusterfucks. I try not to get involved because they are. Usually someone pre-determines what my character is doing. Sometimes people whisper me what I want to do when I'm the middle of writing my response.

Another thing I don't get with Moon Guard is the need for someone coming forward with clear issues with someone else. The communication line has been dropped or there is none because again...for whatever fucking reason, people on Moon Guard or well....WoW in general never learned how to properly communicate or even roleplay. Which is honestly mind boggling to me as someone who has rped on forums, and tumblr for many many years. I learned how to roleplay. I learned how to communicate. I come to Moon Guard and what I knew about rp was eviscerated. But anyway the thing that ultimately annoys me aside from the lack of proper communication is that people will attack the clear victim, gang up on them, and then support the abuser. And it's always the enablers of narcissists. Why is that?

Then again I that's also a tumblr issue as well. It's happened in other fandoms on tumblr so I shouldn't be surprised. Our reaction shouldn't be "oh I'm sorry that happened." We should be angrier about it and demand more action. We are all in a community and it's up to us to make this community better. One where victims are properly heard and the narcissists gets kicked out and running for the hills and not the other way around.

@onetimeblog: Instead of sending every single residuum member screenshots and claiming how I "stole" your idea for a minecraft server (really?) and thrashing and kicking and just making yourself look even worse?

And now for the moment we've been waiting for. I'm going to break this section by section because oddly, Niklos decided to put this in the replies one at a time and not a reblog. But even then I'd still break it down.

Anyway, the thing is Harkre probably couldn't hold it in any longer because he kept seeing you get away with shit constantly. Usually what happens when you're abused by a narcissist so long. You hold it in, think you're the problem. You try to do things one way, which is the right way. However, that doesn't work. And trying to ignore the problem doesn't work.

You constantly see your abuser handling things normally. While you have to duck out of places because they somehow manipulated everyone around you to make it seem like you're the problem. I wonder if this sounds familiar Niklos cause it's something that you have been doing for years. There's evidence of it. You can only sweet talk your way out of a paper bag for so long. And DARVO only goes for so long. After awhile you finally have the courage to speak up about it.

Problem is you got caught again. Though this time you don't get to talk your way out of it.

When you know damn well Agonyn doesn't listen to anyone. He kicks who he pleases and nobody can say persuade him to, or not to, otherwise. You were kicked out of Midnight Repose because according to THEM, you ran into their voice chat and started yelling loudly and when told to stop, you didn't. I know now, the one that I thought was your friend, was actually you on a second account. And I also know that you have been the one -

I'm going to point out I don't know what point leads to where since reading through the replies is a pain in the ass. So forgive me if this looks wonky.

I honestly doubt that. I seem to remember Brady saying that he was blacklisted from every other guild because of your shit. Honestly another deflection. "Oh they can do what they want." That and the "you have no friends, it's just on another account." Is some serious bullshit. You don't know anything. You're just trying to make someone be your scapegoat.

Find some new material. You suck at this.

when I was AFKing in the cemetery and I got your PM bomb and a link out of nowhere about Tyragonfal and I had to pan my camera around to see Tyragonfal walk by, so far away I couldn't even cast on her. WTF? And now I know - you were stealthing after her, on your lv20 trial, while on your paid account you were PMing everyone she walked by as far as your camera can see, in the same way you did to me for weeks. To a point where you pissed enough randoms off you got -

Tyragonfal doesn't have many people who like her. For all you know it could have been some random that has the same information.

This information that your buddy is a notorious sex pest. Yeah. I too have the dark knowledge of knowing that and I received it from someone else. I can't remember who linked me it. I know for a fact it wasn't Harkre. But Tyragonfal has other people that don't like her and would try to track her down and do the one thing most trials do in Stormwind...and no it's not look for erp.

Inform the public that there is a piece of crap in our midst and maybe they will stop playing the game. But sure let's turn Harkre into the scapegoat cause he's the ONLY person outside of Brady to actually say something against you.

So like… don't blame me. Nobody pushed you out, you pushed yourself out. The people reporting to Agonyn? Not me - it's all the people that fought your toon while your wore the Residuum tag only to see you log out after hours of emote combat - of which I wasn't even involved in. I just was told. And when a player told you that they don't want to RP with you anymore? You told him "You are involved whether you like it or not." And now you are hyper fixating on me.

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. You're one of the principal people organizing the Residuum events and you're always the stare of every single show. There is NEVER a Residuum event where you're not there. Either as the main star or the supporting actor. Never the extra.

Residuum has to do things exactly as you planned it. For example after the week long attack you had Residuum people at the funeral vigil thing as candles. I thought it was weird when a guildie at the time had to take part in it. Even weirder that they were there again as floating candles. I thought nothing of it.

But it's plainly obvious that you control everything. Much like how you control the Cathedral. Ever thought it's odd on how there's no one else that does their own thing in the Cathedral. Everyone has to tow your line. Gee....I wonder why that is? Maybe because you're a control freak.

I wouldn't put it past you to whisper to Agonyn and tell him to kick Harkre or even complain. You did it with Brady. You did it with the Divine Inquisition. That's your thing and even Irwin said it best. You act as thought the Cathedral is yours. Except it's not yours. It never was.

reported and suspended. So like.. harkre? Find a better hobby at this point. Everything you claim, I have receipts on. And now you just openly outed yourself as the level 1 troll that's been harassing me on two accounts - and I know you have a third account you are happily RPing on as well. Because you just don't hide yourself that well. Why don't you focus on that third, unblemished, untouched character and just enjoy RP -

Oh, bullshit. You have jackshit. You have ZERO receipts. If you did you would have posted them already. That's the thing with narcissists like yourself, Niklos, you talk a lot of hot fucking air. A lot. You bullshit more than a politician. But when it comes down to it, you won't produce shit.

And the best part of it is....there's evidence of you constantly bullshitting.

Even your so called post about Brady's accusations, you came up with no screenshots. No fucking evidence. Give it up, Niklos. You should be the one who should play a different game. You should be the one making a new unblemished character. Maybe start anew on Wyrmrest. You'd be great at it. Best part about it is...

There's no one there that you can abuse. Hell you can move your whole guild there.

Let This Be a Message To ALL Community Leaders:

Your role in a community is to not treat everyone like they're your Barbie.

Your role is to facilitate roleplay in a concise manner that makes it fun for everyone. It is not meant for narcissists.

If you cannot fulfill this role, then maybe it's High fucking time for you to step the fuck down.

I'm sick and fucking tired of narcissists getting away with shit. Getting away with treating people like shit for simply saying no. For standing up for themselves after being doormats.

Moon Guard needs to fucking change and for the better.

Edit: Thanks to @certifiedooc for pulling up the related posts. I added it for clarity.

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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As someone put it best on the post above—what the fuck is it going to take? Is someone going to have too 'unalive' themselves over this for something to change or for Blizzard to take action over this? Because someone almost already did due to the amount of harassment they were receiving from Niklos Adamant (Nikomantas-Moon Guard or crossworlds_art @ Twitter/𝕏) and his 'gang' in Remnant of Lordaeron guild. Are they going to have to be charged with a real-life crime for a death of a person anything to actually happen? And apparently there is even more 'evidence' out there of them being a vile disgusting human being and it isn't just the immense narcissism—it's related to more pedo related-acts. And to those that actually have additional evidence in screenshots and receipts to show what a shit bag they actually are—if someone actually does 'unalive' themselves over this that conscience is going to over so many, many, many people's shoulders forever! For all we know due to Harkre's silence on the matter they could have. Because Niklos Adamant-Northgate Gideon-whateverthefuck narcissism behavior has already done that once to someone.

And that all it literally has to take—because people have unalived themselves for less!

I don't know where to post this—

But it isn't like she and her "group" can't drive me off the server—because I've long left it behind. And it was I who originally introduced them to "Minecraft" which I had made a realm and invited them alongside friends. However, when people were suggesting I made a server—I told them it would take me awhile to make one. Well—Niklos couldn't wait and took everyone off from my realm and invited them to 'their server' without inviting me which I had to third-party to get a invite because I didn't even know about it!

And many don't know the actually reason why I left Moon Guard—it was due to "Niklos Adamant" Guild Leader of the Remnants of Lordaeron and it wasn't due to the "Minecraft" incident. They are manipulative and most of this stems due to lack of communication from them and other people. The only person that really communicated to me about any complaints was the leader from the Residuum. Apparently "Niklos" had a problem with me for months but never communicated about it once despite our close proximity in-game and being friends in discord. They never contacted me to expression their complaints to me directly for "months" and when they did contact me about it—

Literally didn't communicated back with me for "months" via discord and accused me of "siccing" my friends after them. When I wasn't even online in-game for that and don't know the full context of what had happened. Just that I was doing a role-play that involved someone wanting to role-play with people from the Cathedral group and that wanted to be involved with my story. But something happened and it blew way out of proportion and was never given screenshots of what actually occurred from either party. But as you can see Niklos hadn't contacted me since December of 2021 and all the way until May of 2022 and /whisper communication in-game was non-existent.

And the screenshots in regards to the conversation that had with Hillsbradian below were originally shown to me by Niklos herself before I joined their discord back in 2019 when I had originally joined Moon Guard and was desperate for friends. I should have taken screenshots but I never thought anything like this could occur in the future with "drama"

Basically they whispered me this tinyurl link that they were "sad" that these screenshots were going around framing them in a bad way and that they were fake. And basically said something like this: "you know that isn't my discord profile picture and name" and I was dumb enough to believe them—because I didn't know better and was just desperate for a friend. However the conversation always hit me as fishy because—"you can change your profile picture and name" at any time!

I stumbled back on the screenshots here on tumblr and clearly other people seem to be aware of them and that they aren't "fake"

I've made even more people aware of them. For example: "Gnews" "Eveneah Rosewood" and some of the core officers and the leader for the "Residuum of Icecrown" are aware of the screenshots and if there is more evidence apparently this Maxen has them.

Including of Bishop "Tyragonfal" which the Residuum of Icecrown does have a document about them with evidence for why they are "blacklisted"

Tyragonfal also stalked my character from the Residuum of Icecrown various times until I had to join a voice chat for the "Midnight Repose" to tell them to stop parking themselves right nearby me in emote range. They would also metagame using their alt in the Residuum of Icecrown at the time called "Nightravens" and they are a 38+ female player who was sending inappropriate messages to the officers from the Residuum of Icecrown in a very "s*xuel matter" and seem to target young men for their "r*pe" kinks and even wrote an inappropriate fanfiction with them and another character without their consent. Eitherway "Midnight Repose" defends them and Niklos gave them a high role in their Remnant of Lordaeron discord.

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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Here is @hillsbradian debunking everything Nikomantas-Moon Guard or crossworlds_art @ Twitter/𝕏 said on their not so onetimeblog here on tumblr

Somethings Need to Change

Problem is you got caught again. Though this time you don't get to talk your way out of it.

I'm going to point out I don't know what point leads to where since reading through the replies is a pain in the ass. So forgive me if this looks wonky.

Find some new material. You suck at this.

Tyragonfal doesn't have many people who like her. For all you know it could have been some random that has the same information.

And the best part of it is....there's evidence of you constantly bullshitting.

There's no one there that you can abuse. Hell you can move your whole guild there.

Let This Be a Message To ALL Community Leaders:

Your role in a community is to not treat everyone like they're your Barbie.

Your role is to facilitate roleplay in a concise manner that makes it fun for everyone. It is not meant for narcissists.

If you cannot fulfill this role, then maybe it's High fucking time for you to step the fuck down.

I'm sick and fucking tired of narcissists getting away with shit. Getting away with treating people like shit for simply saying no. For standing up for themselves after being doormats.

Moon Guard needs to fucking change and for the better.

Edit: Thanks to @certifiedooc for pulling up the related posts. I added it for clarity.

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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And that all it literally has to take—because people have unalived themselves for less!

Somethings Need to Change

Problem is you got caught again. Though this time you don't get to talk your way out of it.

I'm going to point out I don't know what point leads to where since reading through the replies is a pain in the ass. So forgive me if this looks wonky.

Find some new material. You suck at this.

Tyragonfal doesn't have many people who like her. For all you know it could have been some random that has the same information.

And the best part of it is....there's evidence of you constantly bullshitting.

There's no one there that you can abuse. Hell you can move your whole guild there.

Let This Be a Message To ALL Community Leaders:

Your role in a community is to not treat everyone like they're your Barbie.

Your role is to facilitate roleplay in a concise manner that makes it fun for everyone. It is not meant for narcissists.

If you cannot fulfill this role, then maybe it's High fucking time for you to step the fuck down.

I'm sick and fucking tired of narcissists getting away with shit. Getting away with treating people like shit for simply saying no. For standing up for themselves after being doormats.

Moon Guard needs to fucking change and for the better.

Edit: Thanks to @certifiedooc for pulling up the related posts. I added it for clarity.

#moonguard #moon guard #niklos adamantt #remnant of lordaeron #world of warcraft #wow #ic rp #ooc rp #rp #role play #wyrmrest accord #wyrmrestaccord

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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And that all it literally has to take—because people have unalived themselves for less!

Just saw crawdad priest responded to glittermage rant and lol wish I had some popcorn.

#moon guard #moonguard #world of warcraft #wyrmrest accord #wyrmrestaccord #wyrmguard secrets

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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Write Up

This is a write up concerning the Rape Scandal concerning Tyrion, a guild member of Remnants of Lordaeron.

In the mid 2010s, Tyrion was accused of participating in inappropriate RP by his ex-rp Partner.

The accusation was: “Six months ago Tyrion RPed raping a 12 year old NPC of his own make in the middle of Pig and Whistle at night.”

The officers online at the time of the accusations at night (2am-4am) decided to kick Tyrion out of the guild along with all names the accuser claimed was ‘aware’ of the RP and kept quiet about it after 1 hour of internal deliberations with no investigative work (all parties were sleeping at that point).

The GM’s, Adamantt’s, Recollection:

At around 4am in the morning I was woken up by my phone with a message informing me of the accusations and the subsequent actions taken by the officers. I got online and inquired about the situation.

It was discovered that the alleged RP took place 6 months prior to the accusation levied.

It is discovered then that the alleged RP took place in the Pig and Whistle at night, the emote was in /em, public. I understand the first screenshot of that tiny batch says ‘Cuthroat Valley’ but in the following 5hr+ conversation the location bounced around. But as far as I am concerned, it was in a Stormwind City public RP hub.

It was noted that the accusation clearly marked that the RP was targeted at NPC of the accused’s own make, which means the incriminating emote itself has to specify the NPC is 14 years of age - the age was also bounced around between 12 to 14 to 15 but it this also didn’t matter much, it was still a child’s age.

It is noted that there was no screenshot of the emote itself, when asked why there was no proof of the RP happening the response was “By the time I realized what happened the chat had scrolled so far up I could not screencap.”

Despite that, the officers online then at 3am decided to kick the accused and all names involved with no intention allowing them to respond to the accusations, or even informing them of the accusations.

What followed was 5~ hours of dialogue in which I stressed proper procedure, and that we could not condemn a guildmate for such heinous a crime without any tangible evidence, without even giving them the benefit of a doubt, or even speaking to them about the accusations and/or allowing them to explain before kicking them, with such dubious of accusations.

Thoughts

In hindsight in my 4am brain I was terse and the verbage I used was not the most tactful. In my point of view the officers could not get over the trigger words (“rape”) and kept going on and on about it and forgetting what in my view, was more important: fair treatment in the light of severe accusations with not a single screenshot of anything to prove it happened.

Not a single guild member was given a fair chance to plead their case or even be told of the case. There was zero intention to even inform them of the situation (“Oh when they log in and find out they are guildless then if they ask we will say.”) We could not even prove the RP happened, at all. To simply listen to somebody say “they did it” and immediately condemn and punish without doing any solid investigative work or even thinking about how incredulous the situation was, to me, simply unacceptable.

I reprimanded the officers for taking guildmates to task on such a flimsy case without even giving them the chance to speak, or even notifying them of the situation, or even waiting for me, the guildmaster, to get online. I repeatedly said there was a distinct lack of evidence, NOBODY was given a chance to even be notified of the situation and the entire accusation was extremely strange and hard to believe in.

If the RP did occur in /em in a public RP hub why was there not a single screenshot from anyone? The reason given: “The chat scrolled so far up by the time I realized what happened I couldn’t SS” - surely meant there were other RPers present, pushing the chat up until it disappeared. Yet during the 6 months not a single soul approached us to report the inappropriate RP. Social Media did not blow up with denunciations. Furthermore, why lob the accusations now, six months after the fact?

There was no victim in the situation to protect, no second Rper whose identity needed to be hidden, the accusations were about the guildie RPing with an NPC of his own make in public. The accusations said the guildie was literally RPing with himself with an emote that deliberately notes that said NPC was 14, who does that? On top of everything, the guild member was NOT banned by Blizzard after posting something so supposedly explicit in public. Did not a single player who was present at the popular RP hub that evening report him? Nobody freaked out? Nobody took offence? Nobody blasted it into public screaming about this guy and pressuring us to do something about him within 24hrs of the emote happening? This supposedly happened in public and it sat in absolute silence for 6 months until the accuser brought it up in idle conversation. This is not the Moon Guard I know.

These were questions I could not answer and I found the entire situation extremely dubious. But in the end I was unable to sway any of the officers who in my opinion, simply read, freaked out, believed. Given the pressure I was under the guildie remained kicked without being given any chance to speak and he was summarily chased out of the game.

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What followed in the years after.

Years later, when Hillsbradian was kicked from the guild for terrible behavior. He cropped 7~ screenshots from the heated 5 hour conversation to frame me as ‘protecting a pedo’ and ‘condoning rape RP’ as revenge. And much like the officers of old, the majority of Moon Guard read the 7~ screenshots, did not ask questions, and simply condemned.

What followed was a series of unfortunate discoveries:

That the guildmate that Yunalis claimed “was aware of the situation” was only aware of the situation because Yunalis herself informed him, and the guildmate chose to not be involved.

That the accuser’s original intention was to get Tyrion kicked out of the guild because he supposedly crossed her earlier, and that they were once RP partner and he crossed her over something.

That the accuser has had a habit of accusing those who have crossed her for ‘being a pedo’, as down the years I have met other players who were once her friends, but were overnight accused under similar circumstances with no evidence.

The above unfortunate facts were all discovered years later and I did not feel the need to dig them all up. By then most of the original officers had left the game/guild. I was suffering from anxiety and simply wanted to forget and move on, but some things could not be shrugged off.

And thus here we are now, 7+ years down after the incident, still fighting the uphill battle.

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Conclusion

To this day I do not know whether Tyrion genuinely ‘did it’ or not, or whether this was just another case of the somebody trying to destroy somebody that crossed them. But from all evidence (or lackthereof) to me, years down, it still sounds like a (very) successful attempt at character assassination. I can say that if there was a shred, a single shred, of tangible evidence that the inappropriate RP did occur, we would not be here debating, I would not be here fighting. It would have been a very open and shut case. But there was none, nobody was able to prove anything. My knowledge of the server did not match up with events that played out.

So did I “defend a rapist”, “defend a pedo”? No, I didn’t. The only thing I tried to defend, and failed to, was fair treatment. That a player, any player, when accused of a crime, should be informed of said accusations, and be given a chance to even speak on it - whether it be defense, admittance, apology - their case investigated thoroughly, before being judged.

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Epilogue

4-5 years later I ran into Tyrion again on his alt, I was able to identify him because he was the only one on my ignore list. I was unprepared to meet him again, Via a mediator I was able to speak with him cordially. The player had fled the game from harassment and fear, but had returned. He discovered my treatment and summarily wrote his side of the events for clarity:

https://imgur.com/a/cuErgwU

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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Somethings Need to Change

Problem is you got caught again. Though this time you don't get to talk your way out of it.

I'm going to point out I don't know what point leads to where since reading through the replies is a pain in the ass. So forgive me if this looks wonky.

Find some new material. You suck at this.

Tyragonfal doesn't have many people who like her. For all you know it could have been some random that has the same information.

There's no one there that you can abuse. Hell you can move your whole guild there.

Let This Be a Message To ALL Community Leaders:

Your role in a community is to not treat everyone like they're your Barbie.

Your role is to facilitate roleplay in a concise manner that makes it fun for everyone. It is not meant for narcissists.

If you cannot fulfill this role, then maybe it's High fucking time for you to step the fuck down.

I'm sick and fucking tired of narcissists getting away with shit. Getting away with treating people like shit for simply saying no. For standing up for themselves after being doormats.

Moon Guard needs to fucking change and for the better.

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certifiedooc · 4 months ago

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Write Up

This is a write up concerning the Rape Scandal concerning Tyrion, a guild member of Remnants of Lordaeron.

In the mid 2010s, Tyrion was accused of participating in inappropriate RP by his ex-rp Partner.

The accusation was: “Six months ago Tyrion RPed raping a 12 year old NPC of his own make in the middle of Pig and Whistle at night.”

The GM’s, Adamantt’s, Recollection:

At around 4am in the morning I was woken up by my phone with a message informing me of the accusations and the subsequent actions taken by the officers. I got online and inquired about the situation.

It was discovered that the alleged RP took place 6 months prior to the accusation levied.

Thoughts

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What followed in the years after.

What followed was a series of unfortunate discoveries:

That the guildmate that Yunalis claimed “was aware of the situation” was only aware of the situation because Yunalis herself informed him, and the guildmate chose to not be involved.

That the accuser’s original intention was to get Tyrion kicked out of the guild because he supposedly crossed her earlier, and that they were once RP partner and he crossed her over something.

And thus here we are now, 7+ years down after the incident, still fighting the uphill battle.

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Conclusion

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Epilogue

https://imgur.com/a/cuErgwU

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