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Guys, guys, let me explain myself just REEEEAAALLL quick. And this is a realization I just had. My approach to some of these topics when I talk about them in my defense of Mileven and my skeptical feeling of Byler have been without...tact, I guess? Like way more with just hurling out anything that comes across my mind INCLUDING probably some crazy things that I didn't even think about before, when mostly I believe it's just people misreading whatever I'm saying and tapping their fingers on that greesy, waiting keyboard. BUT what I'm trying to say is, I do try and see the other side and I do hear what you say and I do my research and I contemplate. I'm loyal to how I speak and how I handle things, but I guess I could change my approach a little more to show just how serious I actually am about things. The only reason why I honestly indulge in this combative kind of play within this fandom is honestly because I just want to defend something that makes me happy.

Mileven makes me happy and it's honestly been the most happy I have ever been in these past couple of days. Couple of months even. But what hurts me the most is when what I enjoy is constantly getting troppled over like it's nothing, everying it achieves becomes another person's bait. The monologue immediately became a lie. The misunderstanding immediately became a toxic argument. The rooftop scene immediately became a break-up scene. You just can't enjoy anything with Mileven anymore and it feels like your suffocating with the withered version of your favorite thing because of what you hear constantly about it and it SUCKS! It really sucks and it feels like I'm just swimming in a pool of it's own blood. And maybe when season 5 comes out it's probably not true, you knew the truth for yourself, right? But the thing is, you can't say this truth loud and proud and shout it from the rooftops like you want to because, well, it's the truth. And the truth must be heard in it's own right.

But then it's like, what if it's not the truth, you know? And you realize you have been defending this thing for years and it was all a waste? And it hurts even more because this thing you have been defending has been beaten already to the ground from the very beginning. It would only add to the wounds. I want to come onto here less fiesty but trust me, it would honestly be the hardest thing ever because, I think I have said before, emotions are absolutely not my best friends. I can control my reactions to certain things, but the feeling still lingers within me. I just want a community and people to relate to when it comes to things like this, and I know I sound dramatic but c'mon guys, bare with me here. The community is just so small, half of us have left, and then what's even worse is that the community is just filled with people from the other side trying to beat us down even more.

And that? That sucks, too! Filling the tag with much more of our content is an amazing idea, and I'm grateful for that, but it still feels helpless honestly. This is not me saying I'm leaving, this is not me saying I'm gonna stop defending our ship, this is just me saying how hard it actually is and why I come towards such things with hesitation despite the bravery. So I just wanna ask.....how do you feel? As a Mileven? That's it.

Also, to all the people that have asked me this, no, I don't believe all Byler shippers are dumb, arrogant, or vile. There are actually kind people within the community who actually just prefer the ship and have different opinions. The ones that show respect, the ones that show support, the ones that see the other side are the ones we should make ammends with. And the same goes for all Milevens, no homophobic slurs or trying to bash other shippers for shipping something else, that's a whole new low instead of a level.

Anyways, that's honestly all I had to say. I hope this wasn't too much because this probably just sounds like me being a baby through this text but yeah. Anyway, thank you if you made it to the end.

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..okay

I’m a byler but el’s promise ring is actually so cute like I ship mileven as best friends but the ring hello?? like they’re such loving friends imo and I KNOW I sound delusional but really I don’t ship mileven but I’m also kind of feral for the ship in a platonic way

I dont know what to tell you other than its a promise ring. Can't be a friendship ring cause I dont see the party gifting each other friendship rings. I would say that mileven started off as friends but really special friends. I once heard the term romantic friendship and I'd honestly say that it applies to them in season 1. And then beyond is when it grows to a deeper romance, starting in season 2. I feel like I sort of understand you cause I really ship elmax as friends cause they got really good chemistry together, but only as besties and maybe sisters. Mike and el dont have that bestie energy, in my opinion they just can't be just friends, they dont have that energy, they have to be together, for me their chemistry lies in them being together and understanding each other, whether as a romantic friendship or as romantic partners.

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So....quick hot take. And I'm gonna touch a couple of spots when I say this.

If Byler does happen and the Duffers please Bylers and they get what they want, something tells me it's not exactly because of "it's just the story they want to tell". I know it's not MY story, but since it is being showcased for fans like me to see and give my opinion on, I will. If Byler becoming endgame really was the story they want to tell, then it would genuinely just be a bad story and if you've been with me since the small start of my account, you already know why. And that's not on us, that's on the Duffers. If they listen to Bylers or if they genuinely wanted Byler happening, I'm not gonna sit here and just be called stupid because the Duffers are the ones that decided to tell a bad story.

People have high hopes for Mileven being endgame when they really shouldn't because that's what people SHOULD expect from everything we've seen so far, but with all of these theories of Byler and being pushed onto people and getting people into believing it and going towards it, especially because Byler has a bunch of these big names and people in lawful, psychological, "important" roles in their "community", people are obviously gonna look forward more into that and look at it even more and slowly lean more and side into it. If you perfer Byler more than Mileven while also knowing that it's chances at happening are severely low then that is a whole othet conversation. But if you firmly believe it's happening, then I honestly have nothing else to say other than my own opinions, showing other people's opinions I find and facts that I've found from valid sources.

Something tells me that Byler's chances at happening can increase from people's constant berating hurling at the Duffers. People actually send them death threats over Byler VS Mileven and it's mainly from giant demographics of Byler shippers all over the globe that watch the show. They tag the official Stranger Things account and put the most vile, nefarious writing within the message or post. It's frightening, and if I was a writer, I'd probably be a little scared to tell my own story too after that, and if that's what happens with the Duffers and they put Byler, then that's probably a factor as to why Byler would be endgame.

Again, like I said, because some of you only like to read parctially of what I say, if the Duffers decide to go with Byler on their own terms, then that's fine and it's their own story, but that doesn't just eliminate the fact that the writing is not a cup of tea for the narrative. It erases tons of character developement that they originally made before the 5th season and contradicts all of what the show had stood for since they started, and that's just really sad to think about especially since this season is the final. But again, it's their story and it would honestly be nothing we can do to change the narrative they want to make no matter how bad we want it, even though I really do hope, at least to me, they make the right decision and put Mileven in the highest spot for endgame based off of the last seasons, especially with the monolouge.

And before you say "Mike used Will's words in the monoluge", let me do a quick analysis.

The purpose of the van scene was for Will to let Mike go after realizing the depth of Mike and Eleven's relationship, and Mike's deep love for Eleven. In seasons 2-3, Will sees a lot that Mike talks about Eleven all the time and is noticing this thing with him where he is constantly in a worried, disturbed mood when anything gets in between them, and that's how Will is slowly coming to terms with the revelation that Mike is seriously in love with El.

The "crazy together" scene that Bylers love so much, is Mike telling Will about Eleven and how much he feels like he's going crazy only because he can feel her in the void. With this, Will is seeing a first glimpse of how Mike feels about this mysterious girl that saved his life.

"Just...please don't tell the others, okay? They wouldn't understand"

"Eleven would..."

"She would?"

"Yeah....she always did"

- Mike and Will, season 2

Mike brings up Eleven because Mike knew for a fact that Eleven would've understood Will's problems with seeing creatures and supernatural activity from the Upside Down, especially after witnessing Eleven's determination of helping Mike find his best friend in season 1.

And just a little imput that Will's romantic feelings for Mike developes from Mike's willingness to help Will out during his time with the Upside Down and the Mind Flayer. Mike's determination and commitment to help Will out of these unusual circumstances, changes Will's views of Mike from platonic to romantic. But it's clear that Mike hasn't reciprocated these feelings because he's still pining after his girl.

Proof of this is that a guy, a Mileven, had stated this exact same argument under a video where he had said that he was helping this girl who was in a wheelchair and continued to help her out day after day. His willingness to help the woman with her situation made her feel romantic feelings for him the more she saw him by her side, but unfortunately for her, he didn't necessarily bring back these feelings. This is the exact same situation for Mike and Will, as Mike only sees Will in a platonic sense, simply wanting to help his best friend through tough adversities.

Another realization Wil gets is how hard it is for Mike to express his feelings and how he truly feels about Eleven until people test him with their illogical beliefs. In season 3, in the cabin scene, when Mike slips out that he loves Eleven and can't lose her, Will is getting another look at how Mike sees Eleven and how much he cares and is worried for her in his love for her. This is after Will and Mike's rain fight, where Will had once complained about Mike constantly trying to focus on Eleven more than playing with his childhood friend. And now with this new information, Will finally sees why, and obviously feels a sense of envy from it as we see in season 4. He just wants his best friend but he seems wrapped up in his girlfriend, especially now since his girlfriend is now being hunted down by the military and needs help.

When we now reach the van scene, Mike is voicing his insecurities on how he feels like Eleven wouldn't need him anymore, which comes from the impact of Hopper's consistent limitations on Mike and Eleven's relationship, Max's manipulation of Eleven, everyone's judgemental views of their relationship, Eleven's stress from the situation happening around her, the struggle with expressing his feelings, and it all feels like Mike is the reason because everytime he expresses how much he loves her, something bad happens, all in the while of having his self-esteem already low from seeing the way his parents interact, how we know he was treated by young girls his age before the events of season 1, and seeing Eleven become more and more independant everyday and leaves him with the fear that she might just want to go to somebody that matches up to her level instead of a "dumb nerd who just got lucky a superhero landed on his doorstep".

But Will already just how much Mike feels about Eleven, that he's scared of losing her to the idea that she may just end up thinking that she's too good to be in a relationship with him, especially in a world where he knows the man is supposed to be the one to save the woman and not vice versa. But Will had another idea. Even whilst using Eleven to cover up his own feelings as well, he's already stated just how much Eleven hasn't been mentally the best since losing Mike, and we already know that love is the one thing that heals her, and she mostly gets it from Mike, and Will knows that from everything he's seen and heard. Will knows just how much Eleven needs Mike just like how much himself needs Mike as well, and he's not selfish enough, envious enough, to just take that away from her, and most importantly, from Mike.

Hearing this, Mike realizes just how much he means to Eleven and unknowingly, to his best friend too. The new information brings a sene of confidence into Mike as he dwells on Will's words, now knowing how important he is to his girl and that his insecurities were valid and understood, because he is afraid of losing her and he is afraid of her not needing him anymore, but she will always need him when it comes to the love she ever so needs from him and the care she ever so wants from him, because he is her rock.

Using this confidence and this new understanding, Mike speaks his mind to Eleven and shows her just exactly how he feels. And it saves her, it saves everyone, and as the script says, it felt like Mike's words were a giant, euphoric hand that pulled her up to the surface, entrusting her strength, using that same robustness to defeat her arch nemesis. And they move on to the next, giant chapter of their lives.

Thanks for reaching the end. If you've read this all the way through, feel free to share your thoughts.

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YEEEEEESSSSSSS

reblog if you're corny and insufferable

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I'm crying 😭😭

anybody else . can anyone hear me

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Ahhh, I haven't thought of that!!>> 😭❤️

if you've been drawing for several hours and the piece doesn't turn into anything, you didn't waste that time. you still drew. art is art, not a product

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YEESSSSS!!! It feels so amazing when I make my own original characters, and give them any lore I want and build up on it. It's beautiful, it helps with your creativity, and it most certainly sets the stage for new writers

genuinely something so delightful about getting obsessed with your own characters. what do you MEAN I can turn my headcanons for my characters into Official Real Lore. that's so fucking cool are you serious

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3rd (or 4th) Mileven Week starts this year on Nov 6th, 2025!!

Okay, so back in 2022 there was a Mileven week, and @karmaspidr and I have been discussing about reviving it.🙌

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Eleven has definitely grown to understand how to talk to Mike, but I think we need a deep, DEEP conversation between them. It is already speculated that the rooftop scene is between Mike and Eleven talking about their future.

But what I really want is for Eleven address Mike's struggle with communicating. Will has helped Mike open up, now it's time for Eleven to display how she understands and appreciates it. Even if we don't get that kind of conversation, we can definitely interpret that it has happened off-screen as they will most likely be on good terms throughout season 5, but I really want a deep conversation about how they both feel between each other and how they'll communicate better and show how they feel moving forward before the dangerous events of season 5 begin or maybe in the middle of season 5. I just want that kind of talk because we never exactly got how Eleven felt about the knowledge of Mike not expressing his feelings because of his own views of himself and that he was scared of his biggest fear happening again (losing Eleven). I wanna know your thoughts on this because I've been wanting to see that for a while.

It's known that Mike and Eleven have deep talks about their experiences, like how Eleven told Mike about her mother off-screen. We know this because Mike mentions it when Eleven is about to find Billy but we don't actually get to SEE that bond between them and that's why I felt like season 3 was a wasted potential to see how they communicated before the events of season 4. We only got a glimpse. This time, I want a full on conversation as it would really display how they talk to each other as a couple. It would be so, so refreshing, don't you think? But anyways, I wanna see your thoughts on this (to be clear, I'm talking to MILEVENS, not any other group, thank you). Thanks if you will!

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Source: "Trust me bro"

(Just kidding, I agree)

mileven is endgame trust

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Hating? Sorry if it looks that way, but I'm getting so tired of these Bylers trying to make it seem like this is a breakup scene. Just because something is shot in a same angle, and expressions are seemingly the same, does not mean they are within the same context. Even with this coloring over theit faces, Mike's expression in the scene is still painfully different. The position he is in with Eleven compared to the position Nancy is in with Steve is also important. It gets so tiring and it makes me sick that people will go so far to try and ruining the ship that I love and has helped me through so many things about myself. You expect me to sit here and take this like this isn't an incorrect interpretation of both of these scenes when these romantic pairings are completely different and have different functions? Of course I am upset, because it is not true. It's bad enough that people still have faith in Stancy while Mileven is getting dropped into dirt, but then compare them together to prove the ship is "bones"?? How does that makes sense?? Like I said, wrap it up.

I'm sorry, I can't take this seriously. Wrap it up...

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I'm sorry, I can't take this seriously. Wrap it up...

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people who hate her should "EAT SHIT" as a wise man once said

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Hey, i saw your post about the dead flower things. I hope you dont mind me adding this here. I agree with your take, too. But also, I noticed that when El picks up the dead flowers, she's still examining them and not just throwing them away. She still takes time to look deeper. It's more a reflection thing. The loss of their innocence from that point on, how much things have fallen apart and holding onto things that matter now.

I dont believe this has anything to do with Mike and El. But if it did, the fact el still examines and holds the flowers rather than just throwing them aside in the shot means her and Mike are going through the hardest battle. But still together. El doesn't just discard the flowers. She still touches them and looks deeper. She acknowledges fragility. Like what Mike and El did. They noticed issues, but they worked through it. And picked each other again. It just seems like a quiet moment of reflection for her. I always saw it as el reflecting on how things will never be the same anymore. Anyway sorry this was longer than I intended but yeah that's what I took from the flowers. I can't wait for mileven!

This was one of the most beautiful things I've seen. I actually love this. I love how you pointed out that she still holds onto the flowers instead of discarding them. Like you said, this might not mean anything surrounding their relationship, but based off of season 4's events and what they've been through, this could definitely be one of the signs of what these flowers mean. Thank you so much, it heals a lot. And me too. I can't wait for Mileven>>

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Screamed silently the second I saw this post

Wearing Mike’s hoodie is so on brand💜 practically hers now. He’s not getting it back I fear

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Hi it’s @meepmorpperaltiago here, but for some reason tumblr is making me send this from this blog instead. I’m the one who made the post about Mike and El having kids and I’ve been having Thoughts. Presuming that El doesn’t turn her tattoo into something else as an adult or have it removed, what if when her kids were younger, too young for her to tell them about her past, do you think they’d notice her tattoo? What do you think she would tell them if they asked what it meant? And when they were older how do you think she’d go about telling them about the lab?

This is so sweet. Well, if an adult Eleven, who is a mother now, and her kids are currently too young to hear about her past, she would most likely be evasive when she is asked questions. Eleven has been sending mixed signals when it came to others safety and not exactly giving the information to try and not be seen as keeping someone from avoiding their goals. (Take secretly her using her powers to disorient Dustin's compass in season 1 as an example). She would go along the lines of just saying something as simple as -

"This was given to me when I was a kid" instead of full on saying she was assigned the number. Of course they'd be curious on how or why it was given to her, so she'd probably say something along the lines of how it was given to her without exactly saying it. "A grown-up gave it to me", anyway to dismiss the question as they are not old enough. Giving blank responses until the kids brush it off or they know they're not gonna get any answers from their mom. A child could build up on their questions but they can get the message once the answers have presumably the same function.

I believe at some point, they would acknowledge the tattoo unless Eleven makes an effort to keep it hidden from her kids before it's consensual removal. But if they do notice and get curious about it, those are what I believe Eleven's answers would most likely be because she would, or course, want to protect the innocence of her kids and not know how vile her experiences back in the lab was before they're even old enough to know such a thing. So as for when they're older, would she tell them about it? Yes, she would. Because keeping such things with her kids could lack understanding and more knowledge towards her, and that's crucial within a relationship between your children and you as a parent if you want a healthy relationship with your children. Without a doubt, the beginning of Eleven's 13 years of living being drenched in isolation would affect how she raises her children. It is going to collide with all of their lives no matter how many years ago it was. With the knowledge of their mothers' past, they can understand her better, find ways to relate to her, and get her better help as they grow older, just like we see the Party doing the same thing throughout the seasons, especially Mike.

And since Mike is their father, Mike would most likely teach them about their past as well, giving the kids the information they need to gain trust and security in their mom, who they now know who has been through a lot and has certain struggles.

Anyway though, that is an interesting question and a fun one. I always loved the idea of the two having kids as they have the potiential. Eleven would definitely tell her kids about her past, just when they're older. And it would help their dynamic a lot more as well as it would help everyone involved. Thank you a lot, now I am having thoughts of a family right now>

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The hug...😵‍💫

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